#indiewebcamp 2014-06-28

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@therealdeiu In #NYC, enjoying the forbidden pleasures of @shakeshack (dammit) before tomorrow's #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482675780284346368)
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@psvensson RT @caseorganic: IndieWebCamp preparty at Pints right now! #indieweb Stop by! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/27/2/indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/482680056141975554)
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 8 minutes ago: I thought we were doing late night IWC2014 NYC pre-party drinks 23:59 at the Element hotel bar?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 28 minutes ago: I got bumped to next flight - arriving at Element closer to 24:30 now. See http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule#Friday_2014-06-27_IndieWebCamp_Pre-Parties and add yourself if you expect to make it!
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KartikPrabhu NYc!!
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GWG Start spreading the News....I want to be a part of it....
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 42 minutes ago: I got bumped to next flight - arriving at Element closer to 24:30 now. See http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule#Friday_2014-06-27_IndieWebCamp_Pre-Parties and add yourself if you expect to make it!
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@kevinmarks “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http://www.wordyard.com/2014/06/26/indieweb-intro/ (twitter.com/_/status/482692223775932416)
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@dfwchuck RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twitter.com/_/status/482693575432364032)
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@jfca_ca RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twitter.com/_/status/482694458404655104)
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colbyaley.com edited /2014/Guest_List (-282) "/* West */" (view diff)
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colbyaley.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+282) "/* Regrets */" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu !tell tantek: we still can do the midnight pre-party! I'll try to catch you in the Element lobby at 00:30
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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kartikprabhu.com edited /2014/Schedule (+86) "/* Friday 2014-06-27 IndieWebCamp Pre-Parties */ pre-party woohoo!" (view diff)
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@aaronpk @maxogden I might have a stack on my desk! Come to indiewebcamp tomorrow! (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/27/1/) (twitter.com/_/status/482704521760485377)
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bear goes offline to prepare for trip tomorrow
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jonrichter.de edited /2014/Guest_List (+382) "/* Farther East */ Added me." (view diff)
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@ericholscher Soma syndrome #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482712854848487426)
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@jsuttor RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twitter.com/_/status/482712990752321536)
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@veganstraightedge Any more #indiewebcamp stuff happening tonight? (twitter.com/_/status/482714978302955521)
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@_jden @alexchally @MilanLoveless @nomlette @foodgoesinmouth @ReinH @kenichi_pdx @davystevenson by 11 i'll be big into indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482720994822340608)
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@kevinmarks @Skud if you're still in portland tomorrow, you would love indieWebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com (twitter.com/_/status/482730691126239233)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /2014/Sessions (+683) "/* Want */ added session suggestions" (view diff)
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kevinmarks.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+296) "/* Remote Participants */" (view diff)
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bret !tell emmak I can bring a wireless bridge and ethernet for you to use
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@musenz @gtiso @RNZ_SatMorning @markcubey Another project you may be interested in re 'words' 'vernacular', community,society http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/482740920987955201)
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@bretolius Still in town from #OSB14? Interested in building the future of the independent Web? Come to @indiewebcamp! (bret.io 2014/06/27/osb14-iwc) (twitter.com/_/status/482740951501111296)
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tantek.com edited /2014/Schedule (-62) "/* Friday 2014-06-27 IndieWebCamp Pre-Parties */ en route - new ETA" (view diff)
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bret man my sites git repo on github is down
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bret :(
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bret ohes wells
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Loqi tantek: KartikPrabhu left you a message 2 hours, 44 minutes ago: we still can do the midnight pre-party! I'll try to catch you in the Element lobby at 00:30
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tantek good evening IndieWebCamp!
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tantek en route to Element - strange traffic on the way though
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@t made it to JFK and en route to Manhattan for pre #IndieWebCamp gatherings! blogging some thoughts on the ride over. (ttk.me t4Wo1) (twitter.com/_/status/482744711703064577)
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GWG tantek: Welcome
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tantek thanks GWG!
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GWG See you in the morning. It was 9:30 or 9...I need to check.
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@Flanaganlyfe RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twitter.com/_/status/482745265451831297)
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@peat I'm emerging from my cave for #IndieWebCamp tomorrow. Looking forward to recharging my inner nerd. And outer nerd. All the nerd. #nerd (twitter.com/_/status/482745325367476225)
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kylewm probably bad timing, but does anyone know if the micropub flow can do authentication in addition to authorization? (like, am i confident that the user owns the domain if they can micropub to it)
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@ericholscher I love the fact that Portland has hosted #adacamp > #osb14 > #indiewebcamp — Perfect example of why I love the PDX tech scene. (twitter.com/_/status/482745482259607552)
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indie-visitor Tantek still up for pre gatherings?
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tantek I definitely awake for it - though per wiki update will be at Element more like 25:15
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tantek (with any luck)
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tantek indie-visitor: is that KartikPrabhu ?
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indie-visitor Yup
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@PortlandTechPDX RT @ericholscher: I love the fact that Portland has hosted #adacamp > #osb14 > #indiewebcamp — Perfect example of why I love the PDX tech s… (twitter.com/_/status/482746888429785088)
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indie-visitor Tantek just wondering since no one else has expressed interest at awakes
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tantek indie-visitor: totally ok if you want to bail and get an earlier start tomorrow morning
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tantek no need to wait up - may be better to get some sleep tonight and sync-up online
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indie-visitor Ok let's do that then, see you tomorrow
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tantek sounds good
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tantek good evening snarfed!
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snarfed hi tantek!
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snarfed you're still up!
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snarfed how was the nyc preparty?
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tantek snarfed - I haven't made it to it yet - I think folks did an earlier pre-party and we are likely going to cancel the later one.
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snarfed understandable
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snarfed fly safe, gl tomorrow!
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tantek snarfed - flight complete!
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pjf.id.au edited /2014/Guest_List (+286) "/* West */ Added pjf" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu man! West is getting major participation
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pjf.id.au edited /2014/Guest_List (+34) "/* West */ Link all the things" (view diff)
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bret !tell tantek good luck tantek
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk that's cause pdx is awesome
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KartikPrabhu East-side is the best... west-side is the best :P
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ericholscher east side of the west side :)
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KartikPrabhu ha!
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KartikPrabhu !tell tantek: if you are an early riser I'd be up for a breakfast gathering somewhere. Sorry on bailing on the post-midnight pre-party! too tired from the flight
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk anybody have any suggestions for how to break out the guest list into east/west/berlin groups in the parsed mf2 version?
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aaronpk right now everyone shows up as a p-attendee of the single event
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KartikPrabhu oh! interesting problem. Same event but diff venues...
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aaronpk i'm gonna have to hack it manually if there's not a good way
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aaronpk i'm trying to print name tags for everyone in pdx
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KartikPrabhu yeah don't know a good mf2 way
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aaronpk could you do me a favor and find a new photo for caseorganic.com and glennjones.net and replace the URLs in the guest list
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aaronpk ?
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KartikPrabhu hmm new as in?
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aaronpk not 404
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KartikPrabhu oh! yeah sure on it
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KartikPrabhu caseorganic does not seem to be 404ing
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aaronpk oh weird, it didn't load for me a minute ago
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KartikPrabhu and glennjones.net it self is down
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aaronpk oh man there is some weird stuff going on with the attendee list
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KartikPrabhu and something megapump.com is trying to load
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+23) "/* East Apprentices */ replace with regular link" (view diff)
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aaronpk KartikPrabhu: maybe find a cached version or twitter version?
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aaronpk (of glennjones?)
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KartikPrabhu looking
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KartikPrabhu brianhendrickson also has trouble
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kartikprabhu.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+25) "/* Remote Participants */ used glenjones twitter pic" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: glennjones twitter added
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aaronpk thx!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Guest_List (-21) "remove "sunday only" text for name" (view diff)
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@itsneal RT @kevinmarks: My Ignite talk on Procustes and computers at #io14 yesterday https://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb #microformats (twitter.com/_/status/482764211315961857)
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aaronpk someone always breaks the template
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Sessions (+0) "/* Indie-comments using trust-less micropub */ better link text" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+32) "add u-p" (view diff)
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aaronpk oops
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paddy.io edited /2014/Guest_List (+280) "/* East */ Add Paddy to list of attendees." (view diff)
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paddy.io edited /2014/Guest_List (+0) "/* East */ Bump creator count" (view diff)
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aaronpk kind of funny to watch my code output different results because the data source is based off a live web page that just got updated
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aaronpk wtf why does brianhendrickson have http://megapump.com/defaultavatar.jpg as his photo url?
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+40) "replace brianhendrickson photo" (view diff)
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paddy.io edited /2014/Guest_List (-280) "/* East */ Removing edits until I figure out what I'm doing--not sure I count as a creator yet. Will find out in the morning, I guess!" (view diff)
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aaronpk oh man photo url parsing is hard
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aaronpk might have to drop the photo idea
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@OnTheWebz RT @t: made it to JFK and en route to Manhattan for pre #IndieWebCamp gatherings! blogging some thoughts on the ride over. (ttk.me t4Wo1) (twitter.com/_/status/482790968244985857)
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brennannovak.com edited /2014 (+10) "/* Sponsor */" (view diff)
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@Delverie RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twitter.com/_/status/482822820658167808)
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@TryEventifier @indiewebcamp Here's the social media wall for #indiewebcamp, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indiewebcamp14/popular CC @ericholscher @peat @t Ty. (twitter.com/_/status/482827628974321664)
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@downey RT @ericholscher: I love the fact that Portland has hosted #adacamp > #osb14 > #indiewebcamp — Perfect example of why I love the PDX tech s… (twitter.com/_/status/482833454246424576)
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@Greenqloud ICYMI: building a #peertopeer #cloud with @BitTorrentSync and @Greenqloud is easy! #ownyourdata https://www.greenqloud.com/btsync-greenqloud/?utm_content=buffer9fcae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/482837080230199297)
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@Alsinosko @almereyda, super sorry but unfortunately won't be able to make it to indiewebcamp today. Want to meet next week instead? (twitter.com/_/status/482841758129471488)
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brennannovak.com edited /2014/Guest_List (-9) "/* Farther East */" (view diff)
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@bl4cks1x RT @Greenqloud: ICYMI: building a #peertopeer #cloud with @BitTorrentSync and @Greenqloud is easy! #ownyourdata https://www.greenqloud.com/btsync-greenqloud/?utm_content=buffer9fcae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/482852396519800833)
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bnvk hello
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@davewiner If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't fight it. ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/482858756800520192)
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@nicolas2fr #IndieWebCamp top floor virtually (at @AgoraCollective w/ @xtof_fr) http:///login?continue=%2Fnicolas2fr%2Fcheckin%2F53aeb0dd498e88d2ae8d6bee https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482858758163292160/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482858758163292160)
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kylewm afternoon bnvk, happy indiewebcamp day
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bnvk kylewm: thanks, to you too- people are starting to show up here :)
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@brennannovak Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V https://twitter.com/brennannovak/status/482860103109197824/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482860103109197824)
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KartikPrabhu hey indiewebcamp! are you ready?
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Rev_Illo yay
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KartikPrabhu looking at schedule, is East starting at 9 EDT?
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@jancborchardt RT @brennannovak: Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V http://t.co/… (twitter.com/_/status/482864365176385536)
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@lowfill_devel We are near to start the #indieweb camp in Berlin! (twitter.com/_/status/482864677891112960)
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@Johannes_Ernst #indieweb, I must like you. 5:30am SFO http://upon2020.com/banter/?p=326 (twitter.com/_/status/482865203587997697)
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@edverillo RT @nicolas2fr: #IndieWebCamp top floor virtually (at @AgoraCollective w/ @xtof_fr) http:///login?continue=%2Fnicolas2fr%2Fcheckin%2F53aeb0dd498e88d2ae8d6bee https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482858758163292160/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482865433759195136)
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GWG On my way to Indiewebcamp
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@lowfill Near to start the #indieweb camp in Berlin! :D (twitter.com/_/status/482868529625325568)
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tantek.com edited /2014/Schedule (+13) "NYC 9:30am start" (view diff)
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@hugoroyd @davewiner Why don't you come to @indiewebcamp ? :-) lots of bloggers there! (twitter.com/_/status/482868921347735552)
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@jalbertbowdenii @davewiner is there an anti-rss presence there? that sounds very unweb. @indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482869212558680064)
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tantek.com edited /2014/Schedule (+36) "move NYC intros/demos earlier - no need to sync that with PDX. and do hack time / PDX demo watching in NYC while they're at it" (view diff)
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@davidmead RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twitter.com/_/status/482870480106717184)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@lowfill Taking a sneak peak in the #indieweb generations roadmap. It looks cool. https://twitter.com/lowfill/status/482873825605189632/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482873825605189632)
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@nicolas2fr #indieweb generation via @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482874161959018496/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482874161959018496)
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indie-visitor How does one get into the nyt?
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tantek.com edited /2014/Schedule (+34) "note breakfast & coffee in room at NYT, bump NYC intro/demos to 11 so early PDX folks maybe can watch" (view diff)
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deiu Hi! o/
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sandro hey!
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bnvk Follow along with the Berlin meetup here http://bnvk.me/h1V
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@nicolas2fr RT @indiewebcamp: The 4th annual #IndieWebCamp is in 5 weeks & bicoastal (PDX & NYC) http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 Sign-up! http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482880881770905600)
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@brennannovak Doing a demo of POSSE from my #IndieWeb site for Berlin camp! http://bnvk.me/NMp (twitter.com/_/status/482881828475244544)
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bear_ please don't twitter this link but it is ok to share for folks at IWC
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@nicolas2fr RT @brennannovak: Doing a demo of POSSE from my #IndieWeb site for Berlin camp! http://bnvk.me/NMp (twitter.com/_/status/482882024576139264)
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bear_ https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc
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Loqi tantek: bret left you a message 8 hours, 30 minutes ago: good luck tantek
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Loqi tantek: KartikPrabhu left you a message 8 hours, 22 minutes ago: if you are an early riser I'd be up for a breakfast gathering somewhere. Sorry on bailing on the post-midnight pre-party! too tired from the flight
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Loqi jeremyzilar: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 6/19 at 8:30am: any possibility of getting the people behind this: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/20/business/media/new-york-times-and-washington-post-to-develop-platform-for-readers-contributions.html interested in the indieweb and indiewebcamp?
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Loqi jeremyzilar: tantek left you a message on 6/24 at 1:20pm: do you have any preference/plans for IndieWebCamp East pre-party this Friday night?
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jeremyzilar Hello friends
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tantek we're working on various talky / IRC setups here at NYTimes
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indie-visitor test!
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indie-visitor \nick Kartik
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indie-visitor does "nick" not work
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Kartik woohoo!
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tantek welcome Kartik!
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jeremyzilar I am here!
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@bridgetstewart RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twitter.com/_/status/482887690833371137)
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GWG .names
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GWG NAMES -YES
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GWG ls
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GWG This is confusing me
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GWG I need someone to type something
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rascul something
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GWG Still having trouble
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rascul with what?
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GWG Text based IRC client
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bear_ woo text clients
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rascul weechat!
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tantek anybody from Berlin in the house?
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GWG Text based IRC...fun
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Kartik it has begun!
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bear_ tantek is giving the "Welcome to IndieWebCamp" talk
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jeremyzilar NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC
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bear_ he is now showing the IWC Video
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jeremyzilar Looking at and talking about Google Domains — http://domains.google.com/about/
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tantek.com created /Introduction (+31) "r" (view diff)
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Kartik East-side is the best!
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david.shanske.com edited /web_hosting (+135) "/* Virtual Private Server */" (view diff)
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bear_ thanks GWG!
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GWG does what Tantek requests
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bear_ :)
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GWG East Side West Side all around the town...the tots played ring a rosie, London Bridge is falling down. Boys and girls together, me and Mamie O'Rourke, tripped the light fantastic on the...Sidewalks of New York.
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GWG Yes...being random
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Kartik tantek uses fingers to point on screen :P
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@_mvkk @davewiner Many interested in latest on microformats, With your embracing twitter/fb, @indiewebcamp our last bastion working against silos. (twitter.com/_/status/482894057497456640)
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GWG Laser pointer fail
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bnvk tantek: yes we iz here
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bnvk on a brief break
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bnvk tantek: how's it going in NYC? Do you have a video stream?
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bear_ https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc
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bnvk sweet
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bear_ please use chrome to connect to that
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bear_ it doesn't like the latest FF for some reason
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bnvk bear: I think I'm the only one there
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bear_ let me refresh
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GWG is listening intently
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bear_ bnvk i'm going to switch to https://talky.io/iwc_nyc as a test
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bear_ the firewalls may be blocking us today
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bnvk hrm ok
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bear_ yea, i'm not seeing any activity on both talky servers
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bear_ between us
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bnvk aw
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Kartik I ma on the talky too but it looks only me
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GWG That is why I'm shelling into my server in Buffalo
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aaronpk good morning!
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GWG Good morning, aaronpk
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aaronpk uhoh, firewall at NYT foiling our talky plans?
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bear_ aaronpk - yes - try https://talky.io/iwc_nyc
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GWG aaronpk, apparently.
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aaronpk is it anything some SSH tunnels can fix?
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bear_ I pinged the dev - he is checking the turn server setup for indieweb.talky.io
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GWG SSH is open But Bear is the one who would know that
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bear_ it would require a crap load of ports to tunnel
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@hellekin Reading through http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths reminds me how urgent it is that people take control of their communications infrastructure. (twitter.com/_/status/482902115023478784)
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@VibeOuthh We support and show loving to the Independent Artist.Hit us up if want your work showcased #teamfollobwack #indieweb #POETHEME #teamvibeout (twitter.com/_/status/482902283966226432)
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@MarioVilas RT @hellekin: Reading through http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths reminds me how urgent it is that people take control of their communications infrastru… (twitter.com/_/status/482903215693127680)
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Rev_Illo Nice intro in Berlin, I wish I could have stayed longer
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@WordPressTrends WebMention #WordPress #WP #Plugin http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482904317473873920)
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sandro URL for bridgie?
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aaronpk http://brid.gy
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sandro merci
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bear_ k, so the dev reports that we have found a bug with the bridge version of talky dealing with turn/tcp tunnels
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tantek.com edited /2014/Introductions (+160) "Overview of IndieWebCamp Two Days" (view diff)
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aaronpk bear_: yay real world testing :)
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Loqi woot
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bear_ yep
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@edelwax Hey #indieweb, d'ya think solving indie distribution might be more about labeling links and apps differently? http://nxhx.org/InformedChoice/ (twitter.com/_/status/482905055256137728)
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tantek what is im?
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bnvk tantek: that guy who just tweeted that showed up
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bnvk he said he knows you
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bnvk thinks our approach to everything is wrong...
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tantek bnvk - URL? ;)
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tantek bnvk - he's welcome to take his own approach on his own website! :)
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bnvk https://twitter.com/edelwax/status/482905055256137728
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@edelwax Hey #indieweb, d'ya think solving indie distribution might be more about labeling links and apps differently? http://nxhx.org/InformedChoice/ (twitter.com/_/status/482905055256137728)
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@WP_Virus WebMention #fFREE #WordPress #Plugins http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482905725333942274)
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@WP_Tools WebMention #wp #wordpress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482905756191432704)
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tantek NYC: tantek demonstrated, notes, replies, POSSE, blog posts, post to post sequential navigation
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tantek NYC: jeremyzilar demonstrated POSSE, backfeed via Bridgy from multiple POSSE copies!
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tantek NYC: bear showed bear.im - will be working on fixing his webmentions! and then working on webactions.
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jonnybarnes anyone else here use Firefox Aurora on OSX? Aurora is crashing constantly for me
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tantek.com created /im (+80) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek jonnybarnes: using beta here
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@TopSEOWordPress WebMention #wordpress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482906410951651328)
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jonnybarnes tantek: I've dropped down to Firefox Stable for now
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@RT_WordPress WebMention #wp http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482906617839890432)
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@Think_Wordpress WebMention #WordPress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482906679139659776)
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tantek NYC: Sandro gives overview of Crosscloud
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows deui.rww.io for his personal site
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@WordPress_News_ #wp WebMention #plugins http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twitter.com/_/status/482907634820218881)
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tantek NYC: Andrei RSVPd with Fcns.eu
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tantek NYC: Andrei was easier to put a rel=me on my blog than on my server deui.rww.io
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tantek NYC: Andrei - this is a data CMS written in PHP
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tantek NYC: Andrei - LDPHP is the name of the data CMS
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tantek NYC: Andrei - LDPHP is on github
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tantek NYC: Andrei - org on github.com/linkeddata where it is
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sandro https://github.com/linkeddata
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows hierarchy of files of data on his site
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@campatterson We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #investing @IndieCanEnt (twitter.com/_/status/482908488499073025)
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tantek e.g. deiu.rww.io/shared/mb
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GWG eats a bagel
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tantek (aside, everyone else, bnvk et al, we are doing demos in NYC now: talky.io/iwc_nyc )
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tantek NYC: Andrei shows cimba.co which is a Tweetdeck-like client that is a reader for the data that Andrei publishes on his own server
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tantek NYC: Andrei - my identity is deiu.rww.io/profile/card
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tantek NYC: Sandro - we have a debate of whether domain or a domain+path is your identity
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tantek NYC: Sandro - I also have sandro.rww.io - because Andrei has given me space on his server
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows logging in with his WebID
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tantek NYC: Andrei - into cimba.co
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tantek NYC: Andrei - from that the app goes and discovers everyone he follows
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@kyle_wm Landed at PDX, on to IndieWebCamp! (twitter.com/_/status/482909997437681665)
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tantek (aside: bnvk - that "InformedChoice" blog post doesn't actually follow its own advice - it's not labeled with its own costs of reading etc. as the screenshots in the post say people should)
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tantek (aside: bnvk - if the author of that posts disagrees with "our" approach (of which there are several) then push him to selfdogfood his own advice first)
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@Strange_Tea RT @campatterson: We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #invest… (twitter.com/_/status/482910750328250371)
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows deui.rww.io/apps/cal/index.html
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jonnybarnes what is WebID
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tantek jonnybarnes: first time anyone has mentioned or shown it at an IndieWebCamp
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jonnybarnes no loqi response, I assume theres no wiki article in webid
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Loqi dude
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tantek NYC: Andrei - thus my server can also hope the app files, the HTML, CSS, JS
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tantek NYC: Andrei - instead of just cimba.co
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GWG Good morning, KevinMarks_
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tantek NYC: Andrei - this way I can host my own apps on my own domain
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tantek NYC: Andrei - this is calendar I use - on my own domain
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tantek NYC: Andrei - the UI is some calendar javascript something I found on github
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sandro jonnybarnes, WebID is two different things: (1) the idea of using a URL to identify a persona, (2) WebID-TLS uses self-signed client TLS certificates to proved to another server that WebID is you
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jonnybarnes sandro: kind of like startssl.com uses self-signed certificates instead of passwords?
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows moving an event, with browser traffic debug tab showing PUTs to his personal domain
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jeremyzilar Andrei's calendar is really cool. @bear seconds that.
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tantek sandro - could you start an indiewebcamp.com/WebID stub that just has that summary you just typed in IRC and links to the broader description / effort?
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sandro jonnybarnes, probably, althought I'm not familiar with that. The big difference is that you can login ANYWHERE with it, not just the site that issued the cert, because your public key is at your URL.
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bear_ can someone remote go to http://indieweb.talky.io/nyc and see if I fixed things
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@peat Except lots of rooms. #indiewebcamp @BoredElonMusk: A 24 hackathon focused on developing solutions for getting out of a large locked room. (twitter.com/_/status/482912880170237953)
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tantek NYC: Andrei shows clicking on a permalink in cimba.co goes to the original on his own domain which displays the data as HTML
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tantek NYC: Andrei - shows cimba.co viewing posts from others also, e.g. Joe has presbrey.data.fm
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sandro http://presbrey.data.fm/
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tantek both rww.io and data.fm run LDPHP software
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tantek NYC: Sandro - currently that's the only software but there are others writing additional servers
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jancborchardt Berlin: Hey from Berlin
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jancborchardt :)
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pfefferle gogogo GWG :)
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pfefferle mic doesn’t work
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pfefferle sorry
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pfefferle yes
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tantek welcome!
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Kartik hello!
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KevinMarks_ bear_: trying https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc says mic doesn't work, only shows me
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tantek NYC: GWG shows david.shanske.com
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tantek … running WordPress
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deiu s/deui.rww.io/deiu.rww.io/g
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tantek … was working on in test mode, and debuted shortly after the indiewebcamp NYC in April
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bear_ KevinMarks_ yes - we are tracking down a bug with the new version of talky
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tantek … shows footer of his posts, footer has icons to the POSSE copies by silo
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bear_ so use the older one: https://talky.io/iwc_nyc
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tantek … comments link shows existing comments - via other sites and webmention
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@billywwells New Billy Wells Horror Book Trailer! https://www.youtube.com/ #horror #kindle #zombies #ebooks #scarystoriestime #amazon #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482918551838154753)
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tantek … shows facepile of likes
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tantek … on a particular post
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tantek … UI to click through to respond via any POSSE copy, or webmention
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tantek … shows his reply context
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tantek … on individual replies and on replies in his composite stream
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tantek … uses a medium light gray background on the reply context
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KevinMarks_ aha that works
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KevinMarks_ I am going to have to hang up though as it is my wife's birthday and we're goign out
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KevinMarks_ have fun all
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bear_ I do want to thank the IndieWeb community for being such a diverse networking environment that we (&yet) are getting some *great* tests for this
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tantek KevinMarks: good to see you and have fun!
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deiu wonders if anyone else with OCD is annoyed by that "You got 1 update" in GWG's wordpress...
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tantek NYC: GWG shows github.com/dshanske with all the plugins for the stuff he demo'd and in-progress like getting location for a post!
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pfefferle GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 10 karma
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bear_ GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 11 karma
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fcns.eu edited /IRC_People (+49) "Added deiu" (view diff)
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pfefferle without th
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GWG I'll fix the update
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tantek NYC: Kartik demonstrates kartikprabhu.com
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pfefferle GWG is something broken?
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tantek … has notes working
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tantek …. can post replies too
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GWG pfefferle: NO, someone was annoyed by the Red 1 indicating a pending update
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tantek … only shows "reply to URL" - wants to expand that
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tantek … also gets replies back from Twitter.
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tantek … also not pro-comment form
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tantek … only has a "send webmention link" form
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GWG Again, Kartik talked me into removing the comment form
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tantek … shows replies to his /article/indieweb-love-blog
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tantek … is using the python microformats parser
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tantek … drove him to add backcompat microformats parsing
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tantek … also has a facepile
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tantek … of favorites from Twitter
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tantek … Twitter breaks icon links when people change the icon
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tantek … facepiles of mentions
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tantek … of reposts (retweets?)
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tantek … of likes (integrated across twitter favorites, google+ +1s, facebook likes)
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tantek … all of which are shown uniform
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tantek … sometimes gets multiple icons for same person because link is liked on multiple posts
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deiu will create a "facepalm" avatar for facepile :)
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GWG pfefferle: Would you consider functions in Semantic Linkbacks to simplify element retrieval?
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tantek NYC: Kartik this is an article that will go live in the future
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pfefferle GWG what do you mean by that?
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tantek … if I want to post a draft to edit, I put it in the future
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tantek … tantek's idea
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GWG I was looking at some of the presentations where it shows mention count by type
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tantek … I know the URL
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tantek … so I can send it to people to comment on
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GWG That would make a good function in the plugin to call
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tantek … shows all the comments looking the same
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tantek … on the marginalia article
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tantek … comments using fragmentions
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pfefferle GWG ah ok… like get all likes, replys or …
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pfefferle GWG or count likes, replys, ...
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GWG pfefferle: Yes.
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tantek … briefly explains fragmentions
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tantek … shows paragraph level notes
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GWG pfefferle: Simple function, but saves time for third-parties
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tantek … paragraph level comments
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pfefferle GWG sure! good idea! will you file an issue for that please?
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tantek … paragraphs with comments have a (show) button
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GWG pfefferle: Will do. May write it up later. Listening to Kartik
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tantek … clicking the show button shows a sidebar with the comments on fragmentions in that paragraph
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tantek … all works with webmentions
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tantek … webmention to the fragmention
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tantek … rather than just the permalink to the post
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tantek … server then saves it
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tantek … and shows it as a normal reply on the post
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tantek … all of the side comments appear below, even if you don't have js turned on
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tantek … and this is where the in-reply-to to the fragmention works
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pfefferle GWG: btw https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention-for-comments
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tantek … unlike in Medium where it requires JS to see any comments
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JonathanNeal That’s a nice summary, tantek.
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GWG pfefferle: Look at the Indieweb Taxonomy plugin I wrote, a file called kind-functions.php. That is what I'll be writing up as the Issue.
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GWG pfefferle: I wrote all these functions that work like the built-in Wordpress ones, by design
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@nopolabs RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twitter.com/_/status/482926764969062401)
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pfefferle GWG cool, will have a look
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GWG pfefferle: I'll write a very long proposal when I can focus with a copy of the codex.
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pfefferle Enjoy your meal
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tantek NYC going to lunch!
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tantek we'll leave the webcam on
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tantek let us know if anyone takes anything ;)
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pfefferle see you later
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pfefferle watching iwc and soccer
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jden good morning fine indiewebians
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peat Gooooooood morning.
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@kevinmarks @davewiner @indiewebcamp @nopolabs if you want to contribute to http://indiewebcamp.com/rss you're very welcome (twitter.com/_/status/482929293358411777)
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@_jden Hanging out today with all of the #indiewebcamp folks at @EsriPDX (twitter.com/_/status/482929783035011072)
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@eventifierapp @indiewebcamp Here's the social media wall for #indiewebcamp, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indiewebcamp14/popular?utm_content=bufferaa531&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer CC @ericholscher @peat @t Ty.  (twitter.com/_/status/482933222293401601)
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@benwerd Catching up with folks at #indiewebcamp at @esripdx. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482933272041631744/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482933272041631744)
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bnvk Berlin is signing off for dinner for a lil bit!
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benwerd Enjoy!
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@benwerd @eventifierapp It would be nifty if you could listen to our personal pages to curate rather than just using social media silos? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482934079088627713)
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aaronpk bear: should I use talky.io or our special one?
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aaronpk we're about to kick off
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@jen080808 RT @campatterson: We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #invest… (twitter.com/_/status/482934821744676864)
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iamshane.com edited /schedule (-10) "updated /schedule redirect" (view diff)
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donpdonp is there a livestream?
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donpdonp is stuck at home
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aaronpk donpdonp: yes! in a minute
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@Xangis Brace yourself. #IndieWebCamp is firing up. (twitter.com/_/status/482935738682441728)
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aaronpk donpdonp: http://talky.io/iwc but make sure to mute and pause your video when you join
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donpdonp ok. i found mute.
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@ungoldman Going full #IndieWebCamp today at @EsriPDX 🚀💾👾 (twitter.com/_/status/482936317672558593)
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donpdonp not sure about pause but the lander game is cute
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@benwerd Awesome! @aaronpk starts us off with a video. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482936903390334976/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482936903390334976)
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@benwerd An intro to the #indieweb from @caseorganic. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482937144575418368/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482937144575418368)
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donpdonp i seem to be the only one in that room
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aaronpk nyc is at lunch
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donpdonp what about pdx
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@_jden Why indieweb? why host your own content? http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/482937707077722112)
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aaronpk everyone is here
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@veganstraightedge #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland is a go for launch. (twitter.com/_/status/482937731056562177)
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aaronpk like... in person :)
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donpdonp ok i was hoping to watch those demos
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@jlsuttles The transient nature of the web documented and maintained by @caseorganic http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482937779517546496)
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aaronpk oh you don't see the livestream?
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aaronpk it should be going
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donpdonp it says play this game til others arrive
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aaronpk try reloading, i just reloaded ours
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kylewm is that you donpdonp?
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kylewm my other t-shirt?
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donpdonp kylewm: probably, was that you?
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donpdonp yup. hi ericholscher
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ericholscher odd
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ericholscher on the same URL as the one on the big screen
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aaronpk try http://indieweb.talky.io/iwc
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aaronpk don't join from here guys lol
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kylewm hey we can see you donpdonp
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donpdonp hey i see amber
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donpdonp no audio
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aaronpk that's distracting. turning that tv off here, stream should be going
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donpdonp is the tv off? was i on the big screen?
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ericholscher ya
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donpdonp ok reconnecting
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kylewm it's off now
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jden can someone /msg me the wifi pw
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GWG kylewm: They are?
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donpdonp i can see the video again, still no audio :(
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jden got it ty
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pfefferle sound is not working on the portland stream
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donpdonp i see nyc
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donpdonp and some guy eating breakfast
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ericholscher is it muted?
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014 (+28) "/* Sponsor */ saturday dinner sponsored by esri!" (view diff)
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bret hey everyone!
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jden btw i want to visit iceland, lmk
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aaronpk it's not muted, now chrome is crashing :(
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bret aaronpk: where is the wirelss adapter/bridge that emmak can use?
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aaronpk right now it's plugged into the indiebox up here
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donpdonp NYC: i can hear you fine
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Kartik aaronpk: refresh the indieweb talky window
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aaronpk try http://talky.io/iwc again the other one was crashing chrome
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@benwerd The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twitter.com/_/status/482940048434688000)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/the-many-generations-of-indieweb-lots-of-people-are-joining linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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donpdonp NYC: hello, yes i saw your mug.
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aaronpk actually nvm stay on the indieweb one, I just relaunched chrome after it updated itself
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donpdonp PDX audio is working
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aaronpk yaaayyy
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donpdonp but i cant mute anyone else
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aaronpk *whew*
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aaronpk everyone else plz mute yourselves!
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GWG You don't like us?
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@_jden So what is this whole indieweb thing, anyway? http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ (twitter.com/_/status/482940386667933696)
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donpdonp great. nyc is muted. pdx has working audio and video
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GWG pfefferle: Issues filed. More function ideas coming
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@veganstraightedge RT @benwerd: The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twitter.com/_/status/482940769372614657)
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@jlsuttles RT @benwerd: The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twitter.com/_/status/482940842538045440)
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donpdonp mic pickup is low, and audio compression is high.
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bret donpdonp: are you watching right now?
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donpdonp bret: affirmative
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bret can't hear?
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@veganstraightedge The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twitter.com/_/status/482941181869842432)
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donpdonp bret: i think i can see you
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bret :D
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donpdonp bret: the audio is as good as can be expected
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bret ok :(
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donpdonp with a teenty tiny mic 15 feet from aaronpk
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bret I can go home and get a better mic
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benwerd I think for now let's encourage everyone to project
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@caseorganic Old HTML works on the web but there's a lot of newer things like XML that don't always work. #indiewebcamp http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482941503103184896)
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@jlsuttles RT @veganstraightedge: The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twitter.com/_/status/482941921048788992)
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@benwerd And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twitter.com/_/status/482942548202123265)
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pfefferle GWG cool thanks
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/and-of-course-like-all-good-events-indiewebcamp-has-a linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@veganstraightedge RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twitter.com/_/status/482942572302569473)
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@jlsuttles RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twitter.com/_/status/482942607790596096)
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aaronpk demos starting!
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@caseorganic Showing #indiewebcamp posting to Twitter from http://caseorganic.com #posse Hello! (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/2/indiewebcamp-posse) (twitter.com/_/status/482942942424727553)
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bear_ aaronpk - can you switch to old talky - the new version is not working properly
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aaronpk bear_: yeah, at http://talky.io/iwc now
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@jdp23 RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twitter.com/_/status/482943229755531264)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/482942607790596096 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/482940842538045440 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/482940769372614657 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/482942572302569473 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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aaronpk sorry you guys can't see the screen in NYC
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pfefferle tantek you are not muted
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GWG Oh, well...
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GWG Just pushed a fix for one of those debug errors
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Kartik aaronpk: yeah screen would be nice
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@benwerd Really excited to be demoing Known at #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482944580770217984)
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@erinjo Showing off Known at IndieWebCamp https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482944690698719232/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482944690698719232)
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pfefferle can someone of the New Yorkers mute the client?
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/im-actually-here linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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bear_ it should be muted
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donpdonp there is an echo from somewhere
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pfefferle yes!
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pfefferle please NYC press mute
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pfefferle thanks
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pfefferle :)
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bear_ I just toggled it
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bear_ sorry - was hard to see - the beard got in the way
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@benwerd Hello world from #indiewebcamp http://werd.io/2014/hello-world-from-indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482945449624489984)
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@caseorganic @benwerd This is awesome! The world says hello back! #indiewebcamp (http://caseorganic.com/replies/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp) (twitter.com/_/status/482945698757746689)
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pfefferle bear_ :)
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@dylan20 RT @kevinmarks: My guest appearance on the "What To Think" podcast with @jolieodell and @dylan20, talking Procrustes and #Indieweb http://t… (twitter.com/_/status/482945814113701888)
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Kartik benwerd: nice chicken!
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Kartik awesome sound upload demo by benwerd
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@caseorganic @benwerd Chicken chicken chicken? #indiewebcamp (http://caseorganic.com/replies/2014/06/28/2/indiewebcamp) (twitter.com/_/status/482946110256734210)
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aaronpk taking notes here! feel free to add https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp
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@benwerd Super-cool. @johannes_ernst shows off his swimming pool's indie website. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947198355648513/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482947198355648513)
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bret Ward C. Are you in IRC?
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@benwerd Watching @WardCunningham demonstrate federated wikis! #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947392379949057/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482947392379949057)
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@benwerd Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482947946367815680)
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caseorganic Johannes:" this is how i want the indieweb to work. you bring your own hardware and it just works. it runs independently of what technology you use"
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Loqi gives caseorganic the indieweb to work
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@Johannes_Ernst RT @benwerd: Super-cool. @johannes_ernst shows off his swimming pool's indie website. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947198355648513/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482949166318907392)
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@Johannes_Ernst RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482949198094929920)
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KartikPrabhu go kylewm!
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@indieboxproject RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482949326625177600)
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@indiecomputing RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482949380719144962)
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GWG kylewm: How long before it works for me?
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/2788841 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@kyle_wm Demoing posse-post-discovery at #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482949975987322880)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/14200773 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@benwerd Now @kyle_wm is demoing https://www.brid.gy/ and its awesome post discovery feature. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950288714633216/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482950288714633216)
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@_jden .@aaronpk demoing signin via GPG with indieauth #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482950948923666432)
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@benwerd Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482950963049664512)
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@_jden RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482951002824249344)
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kylewm thanks KartikPrabhu ;)
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kylewm GWG: posse-discovery doesnt work for you? I didn't know!
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GWG kylewm: Only with Facebook.
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@marshallk RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482951522670489600)
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bear_ IndieAuth GPG login - https://indieauth.com/gpg
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kylewm GWG: it only works with facebook or it only doesn't work with facebook?
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@benwerd "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482951994655535104/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482951994655535104)
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bear_ https://github.com/homesteading/homesteading-article/issues/4
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kylewm readthedocs++
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@veganstraightedge RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twitter.com/_/status/482952137996242945)
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@veganstraightedge RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482952245479092224)
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@veganstraightedge RT @caseorganic: Old HTML works on the web but there's a lot of newer things like XML that don't always work. #indiewebcamp http://t.co/KI… (twitter.com/_/status/482952324462030849)
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@jlsuttles RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twitter.com/_/status/482952340819824640)
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@CaptainKurtis @caseorganic @benwerd Man, I wish I was at #indiewebcamp playing with chickens right now. (twitter.com/_/status/482952603391643649)
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@veganstraightedge Here's a photo of us at #indiewebcamp and me being a goof. http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/3/indiewebcamp /by @caseorganic (twitter.com/_/status/482952647498928128)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/853821 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/853821 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@benwerd I love @readthedocs. @ericholscher demos federated documentation search #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482952799630544896/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482952799630544896)
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@CaptainKurtis RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482952939388928001)
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bear_ is Jason showing a URL?
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@kyle_wm Thanks @benwerd for livestreaming indieweb demos in @kevinmarks’ absence! (twitter.com/_/status/482953254306062336)
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xangis http://wbsrch.com
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@CaptainKurtis RT @benwerd: Watching @WardCunningham demonstrate federated wikis! #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947392379949057/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482953418298753024)
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bear_ thanks xangis
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xangis yw
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@jlsuttles RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482953502457462784)
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@benwerd I failed to take photos, but @JonPicus demoed his social network, and https://wbsrch.com/ is an indie search engine! #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482953621873520640)
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@kyle_wm Thanks @benwerd for livetweeting indieweb demos in @kevinmarks’s absence! (twitter.com/_/status/482953659857129472)
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bear_ who is the speaker and the url?
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deiu aaronpk: is the gpg code for indieauth on github?
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shaners paulmunday.net i think
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shaners yeah. that's right
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GWG pfefferle: Have a look at https://github.com/dshanske/semantic-comments/commit/5497aee2252567a498f2bb4c7a88b45732642c4e
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bear_ thanks shaners
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aaronpk deiu: yep it's here https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth
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donpdonp https://indieauth.com/gpg
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donpdonp <link rel="pgpkey" href="/key.pub">
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donpdonp awesome!
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@t IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twitter.com/_/status/482954316118896641)
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@timmmmyboy Loving all the great stuff in the #indiewebcamp stream today. Wish I could have somehow been in Portland this weekend. (twitter.com/_/status/482954376160751618)
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@benwerd Paul Monday publishes his first indieweb post to http://paulmunday.net #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482954593047830528/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482954593047830528)
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@znmeb @RachelShadoan I wonder if this is under discussion at #indiewebcamp. I couldn't make it this year. // @benwerd (twitter.com/_/status/482954788795990017)
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@alevin at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twitter.com/_/status/482954963165777920)
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@benwerd @znmeb @rachelshadoan We're all working on this problem at #indiewebcamp. I'm releasing this in July: http://withknown.com (twitter.com/_/status/482954982769971201)
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@gcarothers RT @t: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twitter.com/_/status/482955286135590913)
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@znmeb I can't be at #indiewebcamp this year but it seems to me Facebook manipulating 690K users' news feeds should be noted. (twitter.com/_/status/482955390016323584)
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@znmeb RT @benwerd: @znmeb @rachelshadoan We're all working on this problem at #indiewebcamp. I'm releasing this in July: http://withknown.com (twitter.com/_/status/482955482223874048)
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@timmmmyboy RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twitter.com/_/status/482955494441881600)
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@tomwiththeweath RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twitter.com/_/status/482955946084151296)
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Loqi [mention] http://indieboxproject.org/blog/2014/06/demoing-at-indie-web-camp/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (pingback)
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@destinyb47546 RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482957051111276545)
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bear_ is someone going to put the session schedule on the etherpad
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@johnbender RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482957299363766272)
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@benwerd The schedule for today. Indie Yo, anyone? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482957481916649474/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482957481916649474)
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donpdonp GPG indieauth signin success.
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@CaptainKurtis RT @withknown: Gathering content in a space you control: doubling down on #indieweb & journalism. http://werd.io/2014/gathering-content-in-a-space-you-control-doubling-down-on (twitter.com/_/status/482958094201131008)
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@marshallk RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twitter.com/_/status/482958295552897024)
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@anomalily Responsible decision time: do I edit the podcast and do laundry before the Bike Fair or do I head down to #indiewebcamp? cc: @ambercase (twitter.com/_/status/482958375840280577)
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@kencf0618 RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482958503561003008)
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@holden At #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/holden/status/482959013097639936/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482959013097639936)
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bear_ someone in portland poke the talky laptop - it seems to have gone to sleep
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@CaptainKurtis Can @withknown be run on a Tor Hidden Service and still communicate with silo sites? #indiewebcamp #encrytion @torproject (twitter.com/_/status/482959350231609344)
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@EdgarsLabRat [moz] Tantek Çelik: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/482959515176800256)
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@planetmozilla Tantek Çelik: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twitter.com/_/status/482959757486338048)
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bear_ benward_ - did you lose network?
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jeremyzilar WE are off to take an IWC photo
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@_jden My session on #indieYO got scheduled for 5pm :) #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482961027747684352)
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bear_ is anyone from Portland online?
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dreeves affirmative
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benwerd_ yo
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bear_ talky is offline
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benwerd_ http://talky.io/picard ?
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bear_ ah - room names
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benwerd_ we've split into groups
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benwerd_ yes
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bear_ do we have the schedule for groups?
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benwerd_ picard, kirk, spock, riker
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benwerd_ I posted it but I think it's blurry
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benwerd_ I can retake
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@benwerd Greetings from #indiewebcamp NY at the @NYTimes https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482961751256731648/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482961751256731648)
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benwerd_ Picard: indie address books
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benwerd_ Riker: IndieAuth
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benwerd_ Kirk: design elements
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benwerd_ Spock: static sites
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aaronpk talky URLs are talky.io/{room}
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aaronpk http://talky.io/riker
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aaronpk http://talky.io/spock
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aaronpk http://talky.io/picard
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jden are the sessions in pdx in the etherpad yet?
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aaronpk go ahead and make an etherpad for the session you're in
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@RachelShadoan I am excited for the neat stuff coming out of #indieweb . Clearly, the current cloud model is not designed with the respect of users in mind (twitter.com/_/status/482962930879582208)
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@erinjo A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482964070413246464)
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@benwerd RT @erinjo: A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482964154144149504)
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@remedy RT @veganstraightedge: The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twitter.com/_/status/482964339008094209)
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@dcap RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twitter.com/_/status/482964414325612544)
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bear_ what are the current session etherpad ids?
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bear_ for room picard? (address book)
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bear_ what session in room riker?
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jlsuttles picard https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts
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GWG Hello, willnorris
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sandro brief side discussion of http://www.knightfoundation.org/press-room/press-release/mozilla-new-york-times-and-washington-post-launch-/
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bear_ https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts https://talky.io/picard
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ericholscher anyone have a keybase invite?
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@_jden notes from the #indiewebcamp session on static sites https://github.com/bcomnes/webmention.js (twitter.com/_/status/482967239646527488)
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aaronpk yes I do!
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ericholscher eric@ericholscher.com
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benwerd_ Can everyone ping their Etherpad URLs?
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gRegor` https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-design
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bear_ https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014static
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sandro https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts
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willnorris is there a video stream for the static sites session?
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GWG No one seems to be in the Kirk room
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GWG Is there video for that? I was trying to join in
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GWG kylewm? gRegor`?
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@timmmmyboy @benwerd Hell yes to an "IndieWeb Aggregator" you proposed. Bring POSSE full circle. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482969248755879936)
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Loqi [mention] http://timowens.io/2014/benwerd-hell-yes-to-an-indieweb-aggregator-you-proposed-bring linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Sessions (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/39279413 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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@timmmmyboy @holden Following along here and there remotely. Looks like a fantastic group and event. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482970187696992257)
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bear_ do we know what the grid is for portland- what is next up in 30 minutes?
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@pauloppenheim Twitter and Facebook are choppy and stilted. #indieweb made me sit, rethink, redesign enough that anything other than freedom feels broken. (twitter.com/_/status/482970528269889536)
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willnorris relating to the static sites session, one of the things I’ve been rolling around in my head is hooking jekyll (or hugo, or whatever) up to camlistore as its source for posts, rather than the filesystem. The end result would still be a static site, but the content would be sourced from camlistore. No code yet, just ideas. Has anyone else considered doing that? (seems like something bret would be interested in
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ericholscher also edrex
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GWG Note to self....bring a boundary microphone next time
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JonathanNeal I have a couple questions about fragmentions. For use in web/fragmentions, I think it might be useful to expose the getElementsByText function from the fragmention.js, but I’m unsure where I should expose it.
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JonathanNeal I could take a global space, like window.fragmention = { getElementsByText: fn }. I could extend Document and Element prototype so you could do div.getElementsByText(string). Ideas? Preferences?
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rascul willnorris i'm not familiar with camlistore but the idea of generating a static site from something other than the filesystem is something i've been pondering about recently
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willnorris I’ve been slowly working on migrating from WordPress to something static (it’s a long road, given how much I have tied into wordpress… webmentions, webfinger, URL shortener, etc), but something backed by camlistore is kind of my ideal end state.
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@_jden "If I can't put it on a t-shirt, it's not content" #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482971946636673024)
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willnorris having jekyll pull from an alternate data store shouldn’t be too difficult from what I’ve looked at. They still don’t have a great hooks system for plugins, so it would require a lot of monkey patching, but totally doable
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pfefferle willnorris oh no! please don’t switch!
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willnorris :)
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edrex willnorris: i'm pretty committed to the creation of such a thing
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edrex except, i am thinking of building it initially as a live view over camlistore, so i don't have to kick off a full build every time there's a change
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edrex when is this session?
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@benwerd In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482972613371645952)
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rascul willnorris i'm (slowly) building the static site generator for rascul.io, i had originally figured to use git for the content storage but recently i've been pondering other ideas, camlistore is looking interesting to me
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rascul http://git.rascul.io/crash/crash
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willnorris edrex: well, that then loses some of the speed advantages of pre-generating the site, but sure
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GWG willnorris: I second pfefferle...stay with us.
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rascul upgrade to a static site ;)
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@znmeb RT @benwerd: In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482973198938415104)
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rascul (just don't use my generator because it's nowhere near ready for anyone else to use, and barely ready enough for me!)
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willnorris I’ll never leave wordpress entirely… my wife still uses it, and I’m unlikely to convince her to switch. Though I wouldn’t be self-dogfooding anymore… just one step removed now :)
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@thetoxicarcade RT @benwerd: In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482973297911427072)
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bear_ pfefferle can you mute your side
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pfefferle willnorris then you have to give me access to opengraph and hum!
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@benwerd Collaborating across coasts using WebRTC feels a lot like the Starfleet scenes in Star Trek IV. Enter the indie space whales. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482973477771542528)
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pfefferle bear_ i have
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bear_ k
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edrex willnorris: the new "app" api in camli is ready for something like this. the publish hander port to an app was merged a week or two ago
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rascul reading about camlistore it looks quite interesting and may be just what i've been wanting to use
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@caseorganic @anomalily No wonder I couldn't find your tweet! Use @caseorganic not @ambercase! Edit that podcast! Come to #indiewebcamp tomorrow! (twitter.com/_/status/482973745171021824)
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@peat The #GPG auth for https://indieauth.com/ is awesome. I'd love to see this in more places. #IndieWebCamp (twitter.com/_/status/482973827685576704)
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@kid_OYO RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482973983055163392)
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@Johannes_Ernst RT @erinjo: A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482974234285596672)
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@veganstraightedge #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland schedule. #barcamp @ Esri R&D Center Portland http://instagram.com/p/pzNSOdMniP/ (twitter.com/_/status/482974601807667201)
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@holden RT @timmmmyboy: @holden Following along here and there remotely. Looks like a fantastic group and event. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482975172190666753)
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aaronpk pdx lunch break!
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GWG Lunchtime in PDX?
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willnorris what’s next for NYC?
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willnorris http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule seems to have a lot of holes
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rascul wish i coulda got up to nyc :(
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tantek NYC is going out for coffee while PDX is going out for lunch.
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pfefferle willnorris good idea ;)
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willnorris pfefferle: the fans and my laptop didn’t seem to happy with leaving webrtc running :)
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willnorris fans on* my laptop
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pfefferle …and staring at two empty rooms isn’t that exciting
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edrex willnorris: are you in PDX? I could come down if you want to try to hack together a static builder. i have a sketch of an architecture. the main missing piece is an API binding for language X (i'd lean toward node.js)
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willnorris I’m in the SF area
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edrex ah
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edrex how are you with node?
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willnorris never used it. Everything I do at work now is Go, and I’ve been using that for most of my personal projects as well. Learning ruby just so I can hack on jekyll a little
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brianjesse willnorris did you work on the new graph db? it looks cool
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edrex willnorris: in that case, I'd be down to collaborate on building something in Go
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edrex willnorris: the publish app is actually a really good starting point
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willnorris brianjesse: cayley? no, didn’t work on it, but helped them get it up on GitHub. I work in Google’s open source office, mainly managing all the stuff we do on github
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edrex publish uses html/template, and only supports compile-time templates, but it already works, and is in the main repo, so any work we did on that would help the main project improve
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willnorris edrex: I haven’t gotten to the point of hooking into camli yet… the first step in my migration is to just go from WordPress to a mostly-vanilla Jekyll. The hard part here is keeping my shorturls working, since I was relying on a WordPress plugin for that. That part I’m redoing in go, and having it read the jekyll post files. After that, I’ll be looking at moving things into camlistore
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brianjesse willnorris Cayley - yes that's the one thx, i've used neo4j and noticed the Gremlin .js API for Cayley looks pretty nice
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edrex willnorris: my blog used to be jekyll, but I ported it to Harp a year ago
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edrex which means the metadata is stored in a per-directory JSON file rather than YAML header
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willnorris for a camli-based system, it would be simple to have all these be claims on the individual posts… at least that’s how i had imaged it
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willnorris imagined*
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edrex either way, porting content to camli will mean translating post metadata to camli attributes
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willnorris yeah
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edrex yeah
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edrex arbitrary metadata FTW
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willnorris :)
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edrex also excited about integrating social media posts with my blog
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edrex ok so, for a static site I think building a command-line build tool which uses the local client config makes sense
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edrex it could be written in go
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edrex but go doesn't have much runtime templating stuff
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edrex I <3 my Jade, SASS, etc
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edrex some of my posts are Jade, some are Markdown
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willnorris yeah, I was thinking of sticking with jekyll for similar reasons, since the latest version includes native Sass support
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edrex Even on Github Pages?
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willnorris not using github pages
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bear_ I use markdown and a python converstion to get raw html that is then run thru css
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willnorris though I suspect it will work there as well when they upgrade Pages to use jekyll2
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edrex yeah. Compiling CSS using a separate script isn't a big deal.
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edrex https://github.com/edrex/edrex.github.io/blob/master/bin/start
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willnorris ah, yeah
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edrex ^ bash voodoo to run Sass and Jekyll/Harp simultaneously
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edrex oooo, graph db written in (not JVM!!) go!!
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edrex i can't afford to run a bunch of Java on my servers
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donpdonp edrex: i saw that too, looked neat
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edrex donpdonp: yeah!
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donpdonp starting a JVM is like parking an RV in your driveway.
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donpdonp it'll fit, but good luck getting anything else on there.
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pfefferle willnorris what exactly does hum stand for, if you don't mind my asking?
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bear_ aaronpk - maybe try to refresh that talky session
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willnorris pfefferle: it was a play on Whistle, tantek’s url shortener
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willnorris for my go port of Hum, I’m currently using the working name “Gum” :)
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willnorris which also has a nice connotation of holding everything together
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pfefferle_ :)
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willnorris and if I need to do a ruby port to hook into jekyll, I’ll likely call it Rum :)
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pfefferle yea, because it looks like a drunk url :)
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pfefferle willnorris oh, got it… just ran hum through google translate… thought it was an abbreviation first… :)
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willnorris horrendous url mangler ?
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pfefferle exactly
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@brennannovak @lindseymysse yuppers... Go join #indiewebcamp on IRC Freenode and start hackin today / tomorrow, we're on 2 coasts & 2 continents ;) (twitter.com/_/status/482988677132718080)
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bear_ https://camlistore.org/
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GWG willnorris, how about... http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Alternative_Databases#Full_Database_Abstraction_Layer
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tantek reminds aaronpk to hand out stickers!
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willnorris GWG: I still want the site itself to be static files, regardless of how those files get generated
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@benwerd Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482989638655541248)
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@ungoldman RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482989707257585664)
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@znmeb RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482989955657261056)
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willnorris GWG: I’ve got really good caching right now using a combination of memcache (with batcache) and nginx, but I still like the additional simplicity and security of just serving static files
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tantek that's amazing benwerd!
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pfefferle GWG we have to make a plan to convince willnorris staying with wordpress
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bear_ he is talking to tantek about mf2 strategies
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@BJDorr RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/482990756995411968)
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tantek and this is where I'm happy about not checking FB newsfeed since last November.
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edrex willnorris: this is my shortest-path to integrating existing file-based build tools with camli: https://camlistore-review.googlesource.com/#/c/2869/5
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edrex it adds a camli:blob_ref xattr to cammount nodes, which you can then pass to camtool describe to get node metadata
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edrex which you could then pass directly into something like Jade, as the metadata context
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edrex so you might be able to just write a small plugin for Jekyll etc that execs to camtool for metadata.
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willnorris ah, nice
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aaronpk pdx sessions are starting up again!
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@canuckistani " IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering " http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twitter.com/_/status/482992694818799616)
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aaronpk http://talky.io/riker <- micropub session
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willnorris ooh nice. edrex: micropub is the other option I’ve considered for getting data into camlistore, without needing to mess with fuse
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willnorris (joining that session now)
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aaronpk pls to take notes here kthx https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieauth
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aaronpk oops
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aaronpk no here https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-micropub
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@ungoldman #indiewebcamp static sites session notes https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014static (twitter.com/_/status/482993788739006464)
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gregorlove.com created /2014/design-elements (+48) "Created page with "https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-design"" (view diff)
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tantek challenges all techies to start sentences NOT with the word "So ...." ;)
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willnorris so, what you’re saying is that you’d rather us start sentences with something else?
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jden what's the talky for the main portland room?
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bear_ picard?
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jden ty
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@_jden Session starting: Getting Started with Known. Stream: https://talky.io/picard Notes: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014known #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/482994769501511680)
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KevinMarks Worse than "so" is "look" or "listen"
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/auth-brainstorming
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gRegor` https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-fix-the-wiki
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jden https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014known
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@benwerd Demoing cross-site interactions on Known using webmentions and https://www.brid.gy/ (twitter.com/_/status/482995111391789056)
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bret aaronpk: what is the wiki todo page?
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@ungoldman Building third-party applications for the #indieweb with micropub https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-micropub (twitter.com/_/status/482996486049779712)
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aaronpk https://tokens.indieauth.com/
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aaronpk bret: there's some stuff here https://github.com/indieweb/wiki
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aaronpk also the skin is there
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edrex anybody else have trouble seeing the whole pano view in chat?
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@JockelLohkamp @edverillo great to meet you at #indiewebcamp :) @agoracollective (twitter.com/_/status/482996968474812416)
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aaronpk edrex: if you click on the thumbnail it'll get bigger
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@JockelLohkamp RT @brennannovak: @lindseymysse yuppers... Go join #indiewebcamp on IRC Freenode and start hackin today / tomorrow, we're on 2 coasts & 2 c… (twitter.com/_/status/482997121936023552)
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edrex aaronpk: yeah, it's still partially covered up by my own thumbnail
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edrex i think the layout just isn't designed for such a wide aspect
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willnorris edrex: yeah, same here… no way around that I don’t think
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willnorris bear: i can hear you, not sure about them
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bear_ aaronpk - you can't get away from the "setup" step - you can only move it around
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bear_ willnorris - thanks
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kylewm bear_: good point
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bear_ aaronpk - that is the indieweb way :)
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@JockelLohkamp RT @t: #IndieWebCamp 2014 next weekend PDX NYC & now BERLIN thanks to 2011 camper @brennannovak! RSVP: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (ttk.me t4Wh3) (twitter.com/_/status/482997958896799744)
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bear_ what code is he looking at
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bear_ quill.p3k.io
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kylewm https://quill.p3k.io
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kylewm and he removed himself from quill's database
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aaronpk this is what we're seeing https://www.dropbox.com/s/uv6xk23mixsmepv/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.25.01.png
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bear_ sadly the beard is smarter than I am
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aaronpk https://www.dropbox.com/s/c2p8bi3k5n2nom7/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.25.47.png
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aaronpk https://www.dropbox.com/s/dne741yn35km6m6/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.31.05.png
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k-micropub
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/480530061326442496/482997958896799744 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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bear_ sorry - i muted
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/480530061326442496/167390061 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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willnorris I was away from the micropub session for a few minutes… now we’re talking about clients. any discussion of anyone working on an android client yet?
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bear_ willnorris - none so far
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GWG Wonder if a micropub for Wordpress plugin is a good idea
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@holden Watching @benwerd demo Known at #indiewebcamp -- very neat. (twitter.com/_/status/483003330176626688)
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jeremyzilar hmm
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KevinMarks Gwg sounds promising
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KevinMarks Or a bridgy extension to map micropub to the posting formats it supports
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GWG KevinMarks: Not sure I'd do it. But...I've never been 100% happy with the Wordpress Android app.
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GWG KevinMarks: Bridgy isn't customizable enough for me on the publishing side
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KevinMarks But it had embedded knowledge of how to post to certain silos
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bnvk How's it going over there Portland?
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bear_ it's going well - there is 3 sessions active
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bnvk bear_ did anyone get a video feed up?
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pfefferle willnorris where to go now?
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willnorris not sure… is there an updated schedule somewhere?
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willnorris ah, http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule is updated now
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pfefferle willnorris what time is it now?
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willnorris 15:00 PDX time
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@LeeBangah https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Management RT favor (twitter.com/_/status/483008733618765824)
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bear_ do we know what the next pdx sessions are?
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gRegor` bear_: 2014 schedule on the wiki should be correct
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bear_ gRegor` - ohhh! it got updated
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bret aaronpk: if im hosting on localhost:3000, can people visit my ip at that port on this network?
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bret internally
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@IdentityWoman RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483009726729289728)
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@sunil_abraham RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483010126844944384)
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KevinMarks Bret:yes - last indieWebcamp, I got postings to my local camlistore
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tantek Apparently Google doesn't index emoji, e.g. zero results: https://www.google.com/search?q=💩
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@nickswarb RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483010703549542400)
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KevinMarks Is it "self koolaid" or "put your own oxygen mask on before helping others"?
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KevinMarks Tantek yelp does
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tantek However, there IS a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/💩
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tantek KevinMarks - but the question is, did Technorati?
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KevinMarks The db was in utf8
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KevinMarks depends if all the processing thingies coped. I'd guess not as the later indexing was in java, which is not steal plane aware by default iirc
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KevinMarks s/steal/astral/
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Loqi KevinMarks meant to say: depends if all the processing thingies coped. I'd guess not as the later indexing was in java, which is not astral plane aware by default iirc
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KevinMarks Tags would have worked if escaped right
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@JockelLohkamp RT @brennannovak: Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V http://t.co/… (twitter.com/_/status/483011954005803009)
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@CreativeDynamix RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483012012432441346)
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KevinMarks Snowman ⛄ was one of my test cases
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KevinMarks http://m.yelp.com/search?find_desc=%F0%9F%92%A9&l=a%3A37.1122334%2C-121.6430583%2C37&mapsize=360%2C421
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KevinMarks Though snowman isn't astral plane http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo-sample-code-python##snowman
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gRegor` Mind being blown by federated wiki, currently
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KevinMarks So there are 2 snowmen in unicode apparently
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bret https://xdhncnenlx.localtunnel.me my temp federated wiki ;)
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pfefferle so, it’s getting late in germany… i wish you a good night… see you tomorrow
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Loqi laila tov!
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@MusicDiscoveryS RT @LeeBangah: https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Manag… (twitter.com/_/status/483016061336301569)
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@masagusfahrozi RT @LeeBangah: https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Manag… (twitter.com/_/status/483016215778979841)
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@Frittmann RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483016647569969152)
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@osuka RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483020060177739776)
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@cstanhope I can't participate in #indieweb yet, but using @t's recent talk for inspiration. http://tantek.com/2014/175/t1/pdf14-why-need-indieweb-video-slides (twitter.com/_/status/483021299791306752)
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@kartik_prabhu RT @t: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twitter.com/_/status/483022279472058368)
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@_jden #indiewebcamp has been amazing so far- so glad I finally made it out to one of these! (twitter.com/_/status/483022997989490688)
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@sonipaul RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483024310496288770)
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KevinMarks Indieweb The Gathering: there can be only one. Wait, what?
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gRegor` bret: Whatt's the etherpad link?
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@suraiya95 RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483026527823466497)
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bret https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb2014unbuisness
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@rwentechaney #indieweb shoutout by @nacin at #wcsea on #indiewebcamp day. Happy overlap. (twitter.com/_/status/483029058779762688)
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@veganstraightedge The #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland group photo. http://instagram.com/p/pzlr3sjckz /by @aaronpk (twitter.com/_/status/483029488138063872)
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@jlsuttles RT @veganstraightedge: The #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland group photo. http://instagram.com/p/pzlr3sjckz /by @aaronpk (twitter.com/_/status/483029654551289857)
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aaronpk guys give me a sec i'm putting a native twitter one up in a sec
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@aaronpk Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483030674480185345)
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@indiewebcamp RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483030789601234944)
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@benwerd Awesome photo of #indiewebcamp PDX 2014! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp-esripdx (twitter.com/_/status/483031197858017280)
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@peat OH: "Giant, magical suppository of marketing data." #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483032105274707968)
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@veganstraightedge RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483033711529574400)
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@jlsuttles RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483033863526965248)
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@gRegorLove RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483033873219997700)
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bret genration like: http://bret.io/2014/06/15/likes/ gRegor` <----
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@_jden @fredtrotter @ReginaHolliday y'all should talk to the #indiewebcamp people @caseorganic @aaronpk #gimmemydamdata (twitter.com/_/status/483035644696854528)
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@aaronpk @gesa There will be one in Brighton, UK and Cambridge, MA later this year! Check out http://indiewebcamp.com/events (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp) (twitter.com/_/status/483035817770639360)
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@johnbender RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483036045072556032)
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@jeremyzilar @indiewebcamp is going to try to cram into Great Jones Cafe — 54 Great Jones St, New York, NY 10012 — map https://maps.google.com/?q=Great%20Jones%20Cafe%2C%2054%20Great%20Jones%20St%2C%20New%20York%2C%20NY%2010012&ftid=0x89c259852b599d17:0x80aee69d0b0436e2&hl=en&gl=us (twitter.com/_/status/483036483956518912)
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@Dailygrinder1 RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483036606505697280)
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@johnbender RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twitter.com/_/status/483037008332222464)
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