#indiewebcamp 2015-03-19

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acegiak kylewm: I was having some technical issues :P
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acegiak GWG: any idea why mf2_s is showing a truncation/summary for my articles? or is it post kinds?
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acegiak should be obeying the "for each article in a feed, show fulltext/summary" setting under reading
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Loqi [mention] http://2xquisite.com/archives/4452 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page-ko (pingback)
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GWG acegiak: I only added the response to the feed. I didn't change it
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@dissolve333 Competition breeds innovation applies to standards as well. Maybe one day we can all play together #indieweb #pumpio #jsonld (btmb.me s/88) (twitter.com/_/status/578380393470042112)
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GWG So, how did W3C Social go?
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aaronpk !tell cweiske sorry for the delay, but I just deployed the indieauth-client change to Monocle!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed aaronpk: congrats again on monocle, it's shaping up great
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snarfed let me know if you want me to file issues about the unrelated yellow twitter links, or about twitter-activitystreams.appspot.com feeds not showing up. i've been waiting since you were busy
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aaronpk !tell snarfed yeah go ahead and file issues! The yellow twitter icons are when it finds a syndicated post on twitter (and facebook and instagram). I should probably find a better way of displaying that though.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG What's the monocle URL? I'd like to have a look
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aaronpk https://monocle.p3k.io
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GWG aaronpk: Very nice
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aaronpk thanks!
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GWG aaronpk: Your travel page makes me want to implement something for travel.
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aaronpk it's kinda fun! still needs some work and also a UI for me to create posts easier
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GWG Well, my next project is location awareness for WordPress, to lead into check-ins.
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GWG I have other projects, but that one is the most visual, and thus conducive to demoing.
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GWG Travel would be two locations.
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@HongPong #IndieWebCamp Cambridge 2015 Tmrw && Friday http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc are you ready to code #Indieweb & get out of these corporate silos? (twitter.com/_/status/578405538792386560)
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KevinMarks_ http://app.willsomeone.com/?asklist_name=indieweb
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@mncannabis RT @HongPong: #IndieWebCamp Cambridge 2015 Tmrw && Friday http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc are you ready to code #Indieweb & get out of these corpora… (twitter.com/_/status/578414789157851137)
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@CaptainKurtis RT @HongPong: #IndieWebCamp Cambridge 2015 Tmrw && Friday http://indiewebcamp.com/next-iwc are you ready to code #Indieweb & get out of these corpora… (twitter.com/_/status/578414952203042816)
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@CaptainKurtis RT @MozillaBoston: Take control of your online identity & content at #IndieWebCamp Cambridge 2015, March 19+20 at the MIT Stata Center http… (twitter.com/_/status/578415246425096192)
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cweiske aaronpk, monocle login works now with indieauth-openid: http://fotostore.cweiske.de/screenshots/2015-03-19%20monocle%20login%20works.png
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Loqi cweiske: aaronpk left you a message 2 hours, 19 minutes ago: sorry for the delay, but I just deployed the indieauth-client change to Monocle! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-18/line/1426733776272
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KevinMarks_ wonders what to hack on for indiewebcamp remote attendance
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KevinMarks_ anyone got any suggestions for indieweb hacking? http://app.willsomeone.com/?asklist_name=indieweb
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@timmmmyboy Early morning flight with @jimgroom to Boston for #indiewebcamp at MIT today and tomorrow. Can't wait! (twitter.com/_/status/578488734544334848)
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fkooman aaronpk: if you have time, could you debug in indieauth why https://tuxed.net does not work?
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aaronpk Sure! I won't be back at my computer for a few hours but will look when I can!
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fkooman aaronpk: thanks :-)
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GWG Good morning.
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pdurbin GWG: mornin'. you made it to boston ok?
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GWG pdurbin: Well, I nearly had to use my air sickness bag, but yes
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pdurbin that's my five year old on every flight :/
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pdurbin pretty windy yesterday
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GWG Yes.
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GWG Not the 5 year old part, the windy.
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GWG Anyway, I'm looking forward to doing some hacking.
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pdurbin I'm looking forward to dinner!
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pdurbin !tell tantek Approved! Coming to dinner tonight! Where? :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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GWG pdurbin: Oh?
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GWG Speaking of which, I'd better go get cleaned up and ready to go to IWC.
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pdurbin put some pants on
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GWG I'll be sure to do that.
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@dissolve333 On my way to IndieWebCamp Camnridge. Just getting in to Boston now. (btmb.me s/89) (twitter.com/_/status/578522575761842176)
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@glennjones Looking forward to hangout on indieweb IRC, reading about and watching videos of  http://t.co/QRxiU7Zohy over next 2 days (twitter.com/_/status/578525205536067585)
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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Loqi tantek: pdurbin left you a message 37 minutes ago: Approved! Coming to dinner tonight! Where? :) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426764057450
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tantek pdurbin: good q - we'll have to ask ben_thatmustbeme :)
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pdurbin ok
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aaronpk Wheels up from Boston! I'll try to join from the plane, but if not, I'll see you when I land in Seattle!
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GWG tantek: I had suggested Legal Seafood for a meal. Maybe that is more a dinner option
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tantek a pricey one at that!
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tantek safe travels aaronpk!
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GWG tantek: Is it? Never been
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GWG I just like fish
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tantek GWG me too
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ben_thatmustbeme hey, I didn't plan anything tonight for dinner, I figured that stuff would be first on the agenda today
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tantek cool
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ben_thatmustbeme also, the room is open, I'm here with tim owens and jim
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Is anyone at the venue yet?
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ben_thatmustbeme just the 3 of us
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GWG I'm not there yet
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GWG I'll come over now
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GWG I need to set up
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ben_thatmustbeme cool
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aaronpk waves from the plane!
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aaronpk anyone want to see if this works from the plane? https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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cweiske I see you
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cweiske and for a short time your video moved
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aaronpk i think ki can squeak out a few frames of video
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aaronpk haha nice
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Loqi nice
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cweiske did you see my hand waving?
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aaronpk yeah at a pretty good frame rate too
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cweiske ok
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mattl Hey... I'm sick. No iwc for me
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ben_thatmustbeme we are joining to talky.io/indiewebcamp in a moment
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pdurbin mattl: sorry to hear. hey, did you see the link I sent you in here the other day?
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mattl pdurbin: hmm. Send it again?
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pdurbin mattl: "If you’re interested in talking about making deployment easier for every-day users, please consider joining the conversation" http://mediagoblin.org/news/userops.html via http://irclog.perlgeek.de/crimsonfu/2015-03-16#i_10289203 reminded me of https://github.com/mattl/indieweb-installer/blob/master/dump.md
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aaronpk_ It's so dang loud on the plane! I need noise canceling headphones
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pdurbin aaronpk_: escaping Hoth are you?
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pdurbin s/Hoth/Boston/
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Loqi pdurbin meant to say: aaronpk_: escaping Boston are you?
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aaronpk_ It's pretty much Hoth outside
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pdurbin take us with you!
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mattl pdurbin: oh cool. I'm in the IRC channel.
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pdurbin mattl++
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Loqi mattl has 6 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme talky.io/indiewebcamp testing
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ben_thatmustbeme anyone want to visit
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ben_thatmustbeme http://talky.io/indiewebcamp testing
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Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'Hi from the plane! http://indiewebcamp.com/' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/03/19/2/)
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ben_thatmustbeme for those whose autolinker didn't work
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ben_thatmustbeme there we are
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ben_thatmustbeme we arlive
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ben_thatmustbeme s/arlive/are live/
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme meant to say: we are live
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erandros Hi.
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ben_thatmustbeme hi erandos
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GWG Good morning, erandros
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erandros Good morning, I was browsing the channels on freenode and found this
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erandros I'm not exactly understanding what you guys do
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GWG Have you visited indiewebcamp.com?
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GWG I can give you the summary.
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GWG Basically, we are a group of people who believe in having our own websites.
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erandros Ok, is it like a site where people help with each other's projects?
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erandros Or is it more oriented to...
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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GWG We do help, yes. But the projects use common tech.
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erandros Ok, what do you with common tech?
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GWG Intersite communication
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GWG For example, you can comment on someone else's site from your own.
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ben_thatmustbeme for those interested in joining http://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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erandros oh, ok.
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erandros Is this blog oriented?
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GWG To a point.
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GWG Most personal sites are 'blog' style.
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GWG But, there are other things people put on it
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GWG erandros: Do you have your own site?
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GWG What is Indiewebcamp?
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Loqi IndieWebCamps are brainstorming and building events where IndieWeb creators gather semi-regularly to meet in person, share ideas, and collaborate on IndieWeb design, UX, & code for their own sites https://indiewebcamp.com/indiewebcamp
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erandros Right.
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erandros I'm building a site, it isn't a personal site though.
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GWG The chat will answer you if you want.
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GWG erandros: What is the site for?
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erandros It's an educational site, oriented to academic knowledge.
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erandros Well, seeing it might explain it better learneet.herokuapp.com
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erandros So, I'm browsing freenode in the hopes of finding people who needs help, and people who want to help me.
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GWG With writing scientific articles or something else?
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tantek erandros, it helps to have your own personal site to experiment on and learn from before building sites for others
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GWG That isn't necessarily on topic for us here.
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tantek erandros, and there's lots of people here who can help you with setting up a personal site and putting it to use!
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GWG It's a good way to test things...use them yourself.
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erandros I never thought of starting a personal site, I might consider it.
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GWG Why should the place online that represents you be controlled by someone other than you?
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erandros I haven't actually thought that, it makes perfect sense.
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GWG erandros: We're having an event today, actually
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erandros Oh, ok, hope you guys have a good time.
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erandros I'm from Argentina so I'm afraid the plane ticket ticket it's a bit too expensive.
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erandros Thanks for the info though, if I ever want to start a personal site, I'll probably contact you.
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erandros Or rejoin this channel
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aaronpk_ I can't seem to find this by googling... Is it possible to put a content type in an HTTP link header?
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aaronpk_ Like can I just add content-type="application/json"?
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tommorris on the most ironic piece of self-dogfooding fail, the following link does not work: https://openssl.org/
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pfefferle good morning
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GWG Good morning, pfefferle from windy Cambridge, MA and Indiewebcamp
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@HongPong RT @glennjones: Looking forward to hangout on indieweb IRC, reading about and watching videos of  http://t.co/QRxiU7Zohy over next 2 days (twitter.com/_/status/578561784296173568)
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@HongPong RT @MozillaBoston: Take control of your online identity & content at #IndieWebCamp Cambridge 2015, March 19+20 at the MIT Stata Center http… (twitter.com/_/status/578561850532630528)
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@HongPong RT @t: to MIT for @W3C Social Web WG, @IndieWebCamp! Let’s focus on live user-centric demos only, no architecture ... http://tantek.com/2015/075/t2/social-web-indiewebcamp-live-user-demos-only (twitter.com/_/status/578561905704452096)
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@HongPong RT @t: @rektide while IndieWebCamp has http://indiewebcamp.com/principles & http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct My “focus” referred to Social Web f2f. (ttk.me t4aA3) (twitter.com/_/status/578561918232723457)
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: doing basic intro to history of Indiewebcamp
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ben_thatmustbeme started in 2011 and organizing all over the world since
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ben_thatmustbeme this is our second one since
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GWG tantek prepared to explain the principles of Indiewebcamp
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gRegor` aaronpk: I think it's just type= on a <link>? But it's not exactly a content-type, or not the same value usually.
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/principles
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@jimgroom Love this subversive culture jamming of the SquareSpace ad for IndieWebCamp by @aaronpk https://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/578563219108835328)
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gRegor` http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/document-metadata.html#attr-link-type
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GWG tantek say: Build for yourself, not for others.
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tommorris wishes the Bostonian indiewebsters well from grey London.
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@fjhirsch RT @jimgroom: Love this subversive culture jamming of the SquareSpace ad for IndieWebCamp by @aaronpk https://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/578563825152212992)
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@adamboyet Attending the indie web camp today in Cambridge #indieweb #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/578563950704533504)
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rhiaro waves at AnnB :D
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GWG tommorris: tantek is talking about you.
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gRegor` Oh, you said Link header. Disregard.
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gRegor` drinks more coffee
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ben_thatmustbeme in the past we scribed everything in here, but i'm not sure we need to scribe this intro
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pfefferle GWG have fun :)
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GWG I'll cliff note
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tommorris ben_thatmustbeme: video?
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tommorris GWG: anything nice? ;-)
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pfefferle GWG I have to prepare my move to the lovely karlsruhe
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GWG tommorris: https://talky.io/indiewebcamp
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GWG pfefferle: Enjoy.
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GWG tommorris: Something you added to our principles.
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tommorris GWG: I think I added “Have fun"
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GWG Something about platform agnostic platforms
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct
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Loqi [bridgy] Dan Feidt~hongpong retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge (https://twitter.com/HongPong/status/578561784296173568)
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme is demoing something that involves a webcam
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tantek mobile UI on his android to his website
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tantek to create a note
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GWG Oh...he's demoing his mobile posting interface on his mobile device.
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tantek shows writing online drafts on his mobile UI / app
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tantek and then later posting, keeping the original timestamps of when he wrote his posts.
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tantek written in Apache Cordova, compiled to Android
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tantek can theoretically be compiled to Windows Phone or iOS
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tommorris https://cordova.apache.org/
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tommorris (wow, an Apache project that isn’t all enterprise Java nastiness.)
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tommorris tantek: I’m listening but working as well.
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tantek ben's app uses micropub
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tantek logs into his site with indieauth
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gRegor` Hm. Working on de-duplication for Twitter favorites. Since Twitter doesn't have permalinks for each favorite, Bridgy sends the tweet URL, so I can't just use the u-url and target to de-dupe.
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GWG tommorris: Audio is decent?
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gRegor` How are others handling this?
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tommorris GWG: sounds great.
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gRegor` reads up on /deduplication
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fjh ben's phone app should work with windows phone, not tested, or could be built for ios, requires micropub on server side and indieweb auth support
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aaronpk_ tommorris: Apache Cordova was previously known as PhoneGap, Adobe basically acquired it
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tantek Tim Owens demoing
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tantek http://timowens.io/
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tantek shows logging into his own site with IndieAuth
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tantek simplified with single user on the site assumption
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tantek just one click then he picks an auth provider per normal indieauth flow
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tantek he runs Known on his site
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tantek trying to get into the habit of using it
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tantek he uses Twitter a lot
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tantek reading / interacting with community
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tantek hard to think of having one place to read and another to write
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tantek all that activity happening one place
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tantek has been using his site a lot more for bookmarking
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tantek wrote a plugin to write links to Diigo
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tommorris what is diigo?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "diigo" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=diigo&summary=prompted+by+tommorris+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426776426033
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tantek Tim is running the open source version of it
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tantek so he can write his own plugins for Known
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tantek GWG - feel free to take demo notes as well!
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tantek like "play by play" style
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fjh is there a url for known?
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ben_thatmustbeme for those that are interesting in my mobilepub app, it is open source, and very easy to build, http://indiewebcamp.com/MobilePub
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tantek fjh, what is Known?
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Loqi Known is an open publishing / community platform project https://indiewebcamp.com/Known
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GWG withknown.com, I believe
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: No prebuilt APK?
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Acidnerd GWG, can i ask u a question ?
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aaronpk_ tantek++ for demo notes
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Loqi tantek has 168 karma
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GWG Acidnerd: Yes, but might be slow. At Indiewebcamp
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aaronpk_ Text is much easier to get through the tiny plane Internet
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fjh thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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ben_thatmustbeme its linked there
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GWG aaronpk_: Welcome aboard.
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gRegor` waves from talkyio
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Acidnerd its quick, GWG , how do i implement http://indiewebcamp.com/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain this using your wp implementation ?
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ben_thatmustbeme https://build.phonegap.com/apps/1261335/builds
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tantek Jim is also demoing Known
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Acidnerd directly on the theme ? or is the a plugin to insert this once ?
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG: for apk https://build.phonegap.com/apps/1261335/builds
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mattl ben_thatmustbeme: how do you find Cordova?
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GWG Acidnerd: Rel-me links will be in a future version of Syndication Links
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Acidnerd i guess this has something to do with the plugins syndication links
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Acidnerd ahh ok
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GWG Acidnerd: For now, try Indieauth Links from Jihaisse.
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Loqi [bridgy] Dan Feidt~hongpong retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (https://twitter.com/HongPong/status/578561918232723457)
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Acidnerd so right now, do i just go to main "homepage" and insert this below the article/page ?
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fjh http://cordova.apache.org
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gRegor` It's an aaronpk_ in the sky
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tantek Jim has been blogging about 10 years
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GWG Jim Groom is showing his Known instance, and how he is using it to show off what he is interested in/working on.
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tantek … interested in blogging from his space
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ben_thatmustbeme mattl: not bad, there are some limitations, but for this type of app it works quite well. honestly i did that app in a couple days, there are a lot of bugs and incomplete things, it was more as a proof of concept
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tantek … and sending it to Known
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ben_thatmustbeme and hoped that someone else might pick up on it
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Acidnerd thanks GWG i'll try that
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GWG He wants to syndicate to Known, as opposed to the other way round.
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Acidnerd geez i wish i could be there
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GWG Acidnerd: Will keep you posted on that update.
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ben_thatmustbeme acidnerd, we have http://talky.io/indiewebcamp running as well
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tantek Jim shows how students at his university are using Known
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GWG Jim Groom is showing a Wordpress installation that aggregates student sites for an online course
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tantek each with their own site
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG should we work out pointing that toward the monitor?
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Acidnerd thanks GWG, when u back, anytime we could have a chat/hangout & talk about my first Wp implementation, maybe some feedback can help improve the serie of plugins
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tantek and an aggregator of all of them
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tantek for their coursework
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gRegor` Thanks, camera guy
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ben_thatmustbeme camera guy = GWG
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tantek fjh is demoing
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tantek http://www.fjhirsch.com/
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tantek fjhirsch.com is very simple, is running WordPress
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tantek has a few blog posts
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GWG No camera guy here, just Amy Guy.
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snarfed gRegor`: re de-duping twitter faves, use author too?
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tantek uses Twitter a lot, not really thrilled with Twitter client
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GWG Sorry, bad joke.
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Loqi snarfed: aaronpk left you a message 11 hours, 36 minutes ago: yeah go ahead and file issues! The yellow twitter icons are when it finds a syndicated post on twitter (and facebook and instagram). I should probably find a better way of displaying that though. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-18/line/1426735132614
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tantek would like to get photos up
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tommorris.org created /evernote (+22) "redirect" (view diff)
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tantek fjh: backup is important
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gRegor` snarfed: That's what I was leaning towards
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tantek fjh: e.g. backup of photos, remote, off his site, in a way that doesn't lose his stuff
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Acidnerd ben_thatmustbeme, that link is nice, but sound is really hard to catch...weird quality from here
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tantek fjh: trying to get photo blogging working
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gRegor` GWG: instantrimshot.com :)
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Acidnerd sounds like this is underwater mixed with mars attack voices
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GWG Because it is now pointing at the screen
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gRegor` Yeah, pretty poor audio here too
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snarfed gRegor`: maybe conditional on u-url == u-like-of, so you don't have to special case twitter
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tantek fjh: photos.fjhirsch.com
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tantek fjh: got a shortener domain and is wanting to get that work too
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snarfed (also u-url == u-repost-of, etc)
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tantek fjh: right now my photos are sitting on a harddrive at my house
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tantek fjh: what's the point if no one sees them
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ben_thatmustbeme Acidnerd: GWG is recording audio for later too, and we are trying to capture URLs to people's sites
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GWG I have a directional microphone, but it couldn't hear the room. I need a boundary mic for next time.
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tantek fjh: I use photomechanic
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aaronpk_ Okay bad audio is not just cause I'm on a loud plane?
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tantek fjh: I'd like to keep control of it
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gRegor` snarfed: Not tracking u-*-of URLs currently, unfortunately :/
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tantek fjh: I don't want to use photo sites that claim they can use your photos for whatever you want
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tantek fjh: others ask you to pay to get copies of your photos back
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tantek fjh: wordpress seems like it could work but it doesn't seem quite right
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Acidnerd ben_thatmustbeme, that's great..i'll keep an eye on this
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tantek fjh: I do like plain HTML and simplicity
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GWG fjh: Talk to me about WordPress options when you get a moment.
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tantek Dustin Younse
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Acidnerd talky is very similar to appear.in but worst in term of quality
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tantek now works for a Drupal company
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tantek has been Drupal for a while now and enjoys it
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tantek but doesn't enjoy doing it after he's clocked out
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tantek personal page is dustin.younse.com
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tantek wants to start playing with flat file stuff more like jekyll
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tantek longterm project of taking grandma's recipe box
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tantek taking index cards to Jekyll, make JSON feeds
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tantek current longterm project
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tantek updates his home page when he needs a new job
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tantek currently scanning his index cards as images
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tantek what is jekyll?
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Loqi Jekyll is Ruby software that helps you create "Simple, blog-aware, static sites" suitable for static domain hosting https://indiewebcamp.com/Jekyll
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gRegor` My processing (probably a mistake) processes the u-like-of and then sets a flag whether the wm is a like or not, but I haven't kept track of the u-like-of in the db. Still in the JSON, so I can add it without too much difficulty.
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tantek Tim mentions mkdocs.org
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fjh http://www.mkdocs.org
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tantek what is mkdocs?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "mkdocs" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=mkdocs&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426777253197
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tantek Chris Buck
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tantek found about this 2 days ago
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GWG Chris Buck just learned about this.
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ben_thatmustbeme butterwell.exploratori.us
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tantek what weird requirements to join a convention
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GWG He had some spare domain names.
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gRegor` mkdocs is http://www.mkdocs.org
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loqi.me created /mkdocs (+58) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426777253197 and dfn added by gRegor`" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek got indieauth setup
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GWG Chris Buck feels really good
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tantek all connected in 
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tantek interested in a lot of things, vast sharing of information
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tantek we should be able to share scientific and large datasets among the populace
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GWG Hmm, he has his phone number up.
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Loqi +1
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GWG rhiaro.co.uk presenting.
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tantek Amy from Edinburgh
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tantek IndieWebCamp Edinburgh in July!
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tantek started a year ago before had heard of IndieWeb
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GWG When in July?
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tantek site runs a triple store, with MySQL and PHP
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tantek setup webmention a few days ago
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tantek added microformats too
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tantek recently broke her publishing flow, goal is to fix that, or skip straight to supporting micropub
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tantek and then do event posts
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fjh I really meant to demo http://www.fjhirsch.com/ ; the urls page is not interesting
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gRegor` What is triple store?
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tantek if anyone wants to talk to me about linked data
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "triple store" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=triple+store&summary=prompted+by+gRegor%60+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426777469807
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GWG tantek is now presenting.
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll take over scibing, need practice at it
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek is showing his site tantek.com
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GWG tantek is showing his traditional style blog.
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ben_thatmustbeme modeled after traditional blog. posts mostly on his own site but still hasn't figured some parts out
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GWG tantek has been POSSEing to Twitter for 5 years
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll let GWG continue
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GWG There is no way to navigate to his previous tweet.
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GWG So he built arrow keys on his site.
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tommorris has had to shoot off from the livestream
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GWG tantek wants to bring back hypercard and flip through his posts
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tommorris.org edited /Evernote (+334) "adding Evernote integration" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme scrolling between tweets is so fast he doens't need to use ajaxy methods, full pages loads are fast enough
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GWG tantek believes Twitter has better emoji than he does.
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ben_thatmustbeme nothing is stored in a database, everything is stored in flat files in microformats
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KevinMarks_ Theirs are open source
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gRegor` emoji--
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Loqi emoji has 0 karma
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KevinMarks_ https://github.com/twitter/twemoji
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KevinMarks_ 😔 😿 Gregor
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ben_thatmustbeme other post type that he got working is RSVP (2 years now approximately)
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GWG Next, tantek got RSVPs
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kylewm 😺++
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GWG kylewm: Are your ears burning?
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ben_thatmustbeme (backfilling the log) when viewing a single tweet in twitter, there is no way to see next or previous tweet
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ben_thatmustbeme on his own site you can do that
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GWG tantek: Has gone next to like.
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GWG tantek likes on his site, and it POSSEs to Twitter.
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ben_thatmustbeme every "Like" will permalinked from now on
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GWG tantek clusters his likes
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ben_thatmustbeme multiple likes in a row get collapsed into a single entry
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ben_thatmustbeme hoping to get more and more post types working on his site
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tantek Adam: is searching for a domain name to play with some stuff
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tantek already learned some interesting stuff
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tantek Diigo, bookmarking
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tantek nothing to show yet
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tantek Ann: same camp as Adam
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tantek have been engaged with W3C for a while
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tantek was the first person in Boeing to bring the web into Boeing
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GWG Both Adam and Ann work for Boeing...
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tantek long history with web, but not putting my own stuff public
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GWG Wonder if I can get swag
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gRegor` >^..^<++
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tantek … and Amy is an inspiration for me to get my stuff together and on the web
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tantek … thinking of my [domain] name is the hardest part
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tantek … on the other hand I may leave my job soon so it may be important to have my own website
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tantek … I could document what it's like to become a retired person
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tantek Sandro Hawke - I have a domain hawke.org
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tantek … but I haven't touched it in about 15 years
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tantek … kind of more perfectionist about it
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GWG Not good at little steps.
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tantek … not good at little steps thing
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tantek … but come here to learn about it
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GWG He is aiming for something more.
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timmmmyboy Speaking of Twitter archives, mine on Google Drive: http://twitter.timowens.io
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tantek … I'm aiming at all my apps, every single thing on my computer stored on my owns site
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tantek … I want every click and everything I do on my own site
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tantek … last time my project was to get my LiveJournal stuff out of there
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tantek … and I got them out
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ben_thatmustbeme timmmmyboy: did you see the cap for my video connector over there?
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tantek … but I didn't manage to build a viewer
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timmmmyboy @ben_thatmustbeme I do not
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tantek Barry: barryfrost.com
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GWG Barry Frost is now presenting
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ben_thatmustbeme i really shouldn't care about such things
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tantek came over this week from London
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tantek company has an office in Boston so figured he'd come over
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tantek dabbling a bit on his personal sites
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ben_thatmustbeme barryfrost.com
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tantek by day he is CTO of a company, does not get to do any hacking
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GWG barryf likes to make things
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tantek this (my site) was his gateway to making things, scratching his own itches
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tantek really resonated his ideas
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tantek built his own site here
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aaronpk timmmmyboy: cool! could you add some info about hosting on google drive? http://indiewebcamp.com/hosting#Static_domain_hosting
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tantek posting all his notes to his own site
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tantek rather than Twitter
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tantek and it gets syndicated POSSE to Twitter
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tantek all his bookmarks on his site
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tantek get syndicated to pinboard.in
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tantek a bit like delicious and diigo
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tantek ported all his bookmarks over
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tantek ported all his bookmarks and old tweets over to his own site
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tantek photos - quite like using Instagram
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tantek uses a service ownyourgram
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KevinMarks__ Aaronpk see http://epeus.blogspot.com/2013/04/hosting-and-impermanence.html
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tantek posts to instagram
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GWG barryf ported from Pinboard.
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tantek ownyourgram posts it to his own site [using micropub]
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ben_thatmustbeme he is using ownyourgram and thanks aaronpk
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GWG barryf ownshisgram
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tantek it means he can still use all the features too
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tantek and he copies any comments or likes from those services back to his site
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GWG barryf likes backfeed
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GWG Plug for Bridgy
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tantek uses a service called Bridgy
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aaronpk !tell snarfed this is very strange! http://aaronparecki.com/webmention/nyR6Eqz0 not sure if the problem is on my side or bridgy
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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fjh is there a link fro bridgy
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tantek and he also uses Bridgy to publish back to twitter
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GWG brid.gy
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timmmmyboy aaronpk: I wish I knew more about it. I had used this from a friend to set it up https://mashe.hawksey.info/2013/02/twitter-archive-tagsv5/ I do know they don't let you map a domain hence my redirecting.
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aaronpk KevinMarks__: but timmmmyboy has a custom domain for his! way better
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fjh thanks
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tantek fjh - you can ask "what is" for anything
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tantek e.g
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tantek what is bridgy
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Loqi Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed as a service https://indiewebcamp.com/bridgy
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fjh cool, thanks
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timmmmyboy Yeah I'm cheating with a redirect :)
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aaronpk timmmmyboy: just a short section about how you did it in that section of /hosting would be great!
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KevinMarks__ Neat
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GWG barryf has thr reply context on his site.
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tantek Barry: I also post replies from his site
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timmmmyboy aaronpk: Will do
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aaronpk thanks!
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GWG So you can see what he was replying/liking
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tantek … I post all my replies and likes from my own site
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tantek if I like a post with microformats support, I can get a snippet of it to display on my site
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tantek I also do reposts, rather than doing a retweet on twitter
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tantek I do it on my site
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tantek I was trying to be precise about this
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tantek no big admin interface
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GWG barryf likes Micropub
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tantek quite like micropub
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GWG And uses it
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tantek I publish everything using micropub
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tantek now I can use any tool, e.g. Quill, Teacup, Mobilepub to
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tantek and my own tool using micropublish.herokuapp.com
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GWG barryf made his own tool called Micropublish
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tantek login with your own domain
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GWG The code is on github
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GWG He is now live demoing
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tantek uses indieauth to authenticate
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tantek gives him a UI to post notes
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GWG barryf syndicates to Pinboard.
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tantek bookmark, content, title, tags, syndication options
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GWG Note to self: Investigate that
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GWG He's trying to like something now.
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tantek demos liking a post from ben.thatmustbe.me
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GWG We are all waiting with baited breath
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GWG Oh....didn't work.
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tantek didn't quite work
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tantek may need a vouch or something
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GWG Will investigate later
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tantek the idea is that everything on my site originates via micropub
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tantek Cassie: does have a Known site
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tantek … has been organizing a while politically on FB, but that's kind of terrible
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tantek … trying to get patients off of facebook
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GWG Trying to get patients off Facebook
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GWG She is not going to show the site as private
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GWG Hoping to get new ideas to get people excited.
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tantek does not have personal site, but does have personal twitter
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tantek Curtis
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tantek also from Minneapolis, like Cassie
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GWG Curtis is up, he is from MSP
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tantek took the indie concept another step further
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GWG Has taken the Indie concept further by now having a website hosted in his house on a laptop
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tantek also has his website hosted on laptop in his house on static IP!
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tantek sensible.mn
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GWG He has a static ip. He hosts the site right from his home on Nginx and Known 0.7.5
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tantek it's not a personal website, it's for activism
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GWG It is not a personal site, it is for an activist site
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tantek one of the features of the new Known is that you can now post to FB pages
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GWG Posts from Known to FB pages
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tantek shows a post on sensible.mn and POSSE copy on FB Page
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GWG Demonstrates FB page is is POSSEd to
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GWG Uses Bridgy to backfeed.
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tantek on the page he liked it, and made a short comment, through Bridgy both posted back to the original site
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tantek definitely new at all this stuff and just getting started
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tantek two things interested in
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GWG He is new at this and just getting started. Two things he is interest in...
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tantek having the ability to post PDFs
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GWG He wants PDFs....due data requests from the government
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tantek does a lot of data requests from the government
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GWG Also would like to host that himself
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tantek instead of scribd
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GWG Wants to record videos and host them
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GWG One last thing...
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GWG Known allows for static pages. He hasn't done much with that, but he is trying this feature
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tantek David is demoing now
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tantek shows david.shanske.com
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tantek WordPress site
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tantek I am one of the people helping other people running WordPress
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tantek I started out wanting to add a bunch of indieweb style tools
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tantek I have a plugin called post comments
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tantek shows WP dashboard
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tantek what I've added is a layer to identify types of posts
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tantek lots of types of posts!
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tantek all of the context is provided in the posting UI in some boxes, URL, name, author, author photo, publisher, excerpt
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tantek syndication links in UI also
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tantek I always post to my site
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tantek and then manually POSSE over
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tantek and then update the links
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tantek the syndication links
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tantek but I am prepared / working on
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tantek using SNAP to publish to FB, Twitter etc.
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tantek and automatically merge URLs from that plugin
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tantek to the ones in the post put in manually
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tantek also installed a plugin on email
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tantek because there was one person that wouldn't follow him anywhere else
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fjh where do you run the code that handles twitter interaction etc , bridgy, is it under your personal web site?
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tantek so now he's POSSEing to email
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tantek for that one person
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tantek (fjh I think he's using the brid.gy service)
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tantek shows replies
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tantek shows a "listen"
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tantek continues to try to test new features
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tantek I test them and bring them over when they're not crashing the site
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tantek not when they're perfect
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tantek shows a Listen with song, musician, and album name
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tantek site also supports micropub
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tantek because there's a micropub plugin for WordPress
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tantek shows a list of people liking
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tantek had a facepile but deactivated it, but it will be back
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tantek she is liking it by FB, which is surprising as she never uses FB and never likes anything
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gRegor` snarfed: Another edge case with the fb2.x api is author URLs changed, so I can't use that to uniquely identify either :)
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rhiaro email++
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rhiaro :p
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Loqi email has -16 karma
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tantek there's a plugin Postmatic with beta
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tantek where if someone replies to his POSSE email copy then it shows up as a comment on his site
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gRegor` So I will need to do the u-*-of comparison, but I still need to add something to generate a unique md5 hash, since I'd like to use that as the de-dupe check.
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tantek double-opt-in
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tantek david now writes a note
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tantek after getting sandro signed up via email
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tantek david shows how new post will syndicate and to email
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@dshanske At Indiewebcamp Cambridge (twitter.com/_/status/578582742071320576)
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tantek amy subscribed
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tantek and replied to David's note via email
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tantek it showed up as a comment on the David's note!
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aaronpk whoa
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, tantek is floored
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@fjhirsch at #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com , great demos of user-centric control of data, usability etc (twitter.com/_/status/578583317265649664)
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tantek permalink: https://david.shanske.com/tag/indiewebcamp/
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kylewm gRegor`: data point: I dedupe based on the source url only
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bear so do I
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gRegor` kylewm: So the Bridgy URL, or the u-url it reports?
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tantek new people have shown up
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kylewm gRegor`: the brid-gy.appspot.com url, the one that is the source= property of the webmention
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tantek "aocrates" (sp?)
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tantek and Randall and Benjamin
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gRegor` Yeah, now that I think about it not sure why I include the target URL in that...
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gRegor` kylewm: Ok, so you get duplicates with this new fb2.x nonsense
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gRegor` I was trying to avoid those
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gRegor` Up to now that's been what I've used, too: md5(wm.source + wm.target)
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tantek bigbluehat:
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ben_thatmustbeme bigbluehat.com
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tantek bigbluehat.com is his personal site
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gRegor` Good point that I probably don't need the wm.target in that, though
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GWG This is Benjamin, aka bigbluehat
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GWG He looks like a hat, according to him
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gRegor` Unless in-reply-to multiple posts of mine, hm
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tantek looked into URI / URL spec
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tantek for email address like URLs
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tantek custom HTTP header user-info
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bret that second day at the w3c f2f seemed much more productive, bravo tantek aaronpk rhiaro ben_thatmustbeme
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bret and mattl !
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GWG curl is apparently the 'one true http client'
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bret who else was there?
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mattl i wasn't there second day. i got sick on the first day.
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rhiaro turtle++
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Loqi turtle has 1 karma
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bret aww mattl feel better
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kylewm how can a person look like a hat?
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ben_thatmustbeme ninja turtles++
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ben_thatmustbeme ninjaturtles++
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Loqi ninjaturtles has 1 karma
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GWG bigbluehat is exploring this as a replacement for webfinger or routing to openid
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tantek teenagemutantninjaturtles++
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Loqi too much karma!
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GWG The hope was to fix the problem that OpenID, that no one could remember their OpenID URL
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tantek php code for it is like 4 lines
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GWG He believes it fits into Indieweb.
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GWG I am thinking he should add it to the wiki
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@HongPong RT @fjhirsch: at #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com , great demos of user-centric control of data, usability etc (twitter.com/_/status/578585681376604161)
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bret Loqi is like a sponge that absorbs positive conversation and farts karma
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Loqi woot!
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tantek the PHP is on github, the JS and Python client went up this morning
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tantek currently working on some middleware
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kylewm what is middleware?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "middleware" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=middleware&summary=prompted+by+kylewm+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426780598640
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bret its like a lazy river for web reqs and res's
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GWG The question is where you want to host the user data. It can either be hosted, or 302ed...
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GWG It does not have to be an email address, just an identifier
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tantek lunch: cafeteria on the first floor of this building suggested by Sandro
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tantek MIT student center has more traditional food court type stuff
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AnnB question for All: any ways to dump an entire set of photos from Flickr, with captions? (for a photographer friend who is on the decline)
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bigbluehat GWG: all of those :)
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bigbluehat oh...you're scribing ;)
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bigbluehat there's also Friendly Toast...which is about 5 minutes walk
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kylewm AnnB: I believe aaronpk has a tool. for Known there is https://github.com/mapkyca/KnownFlickrImport
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AnnB oh cool .. thanks
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AnnB I thought this crowd might know!
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kylewm AnnB: here is aaron's https://github.com/aaronpk/Flickr-Archiver
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AnnB thanks so much
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tantek photo time!
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timmmmyboy aaronpk: Any idea why known.jimgroom.com would be failing Twitter and Github auth on IndieAuth?
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timmmmyboy asking for a friend :)
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@timmmmyboy #indiewebcamp Cambridge 2015 https://twitter.com/timmmmyboy/status/578589949919961088/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/578589949919961088)
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timmmmyboy wat
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AnnB so sorry to have to leave... darn
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@jimgroom #IndieWebCamp group photo at #MIT meetup https://twitter.com/jimgroom/status/578591055358083072/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/578591055358083072)
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timmmmyboy aaronpk: Nevermind, we figured it out. Forgot social profiles have to link back to the domain as well.
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bret !tell tantek would you open to a PR that exports some of the functions in cassis so it can be used in node/browserify?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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cweiske aaronpk, could you enable HSTS on indiewebcamp.com?
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cweiske or simply redirect http to https?
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@HongPong RT @jimgroom: Love this subversive culture jamming of the SquareSpace ad for IndieWebCamp by @aaronpk https://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/578602373855215616)
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ben_thatmustbeme should probably move on to scheduling soon
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hongpong i am going to try and improve the currently blank Drupal page. Quite a lot of the pieces exist, but aren't really organized
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snarfed aaronpk: huh, weird. i recently moved u-like-of, u-repost-of, etc links outside of e-content. maybe it only looks for target links in content?
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Loqi snarfed: aaronpk left you a message 1 hour, 54 minutes ago: this is very strange! http://aaronparecki.com/webmention/nyR6Eqz0 not sure if the problem is on my side or bridgy http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426778606375
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snarfed gRegor`: kylewm: re de-duping bridgy wms, sadly you might consider special casing fb. it's the only one (so far) where source, u-url, and author url have all changed for the same response
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ben_thatmustbeme quite the interesting discussion of vouch during lunch
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snarfed all the others should de-dupe on either source alone or uid alone
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tantek_ GWG, could you create http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/Live and add a link to the live feed / talky ?
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gRegor` Yeah, I'm going to special case both twitter and facebook, but not sure how.. at least with my desired unique hash method.
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Loqi tantek_: bret left you a message 50 minutes ago: would you open to a PR that exports some of the functions in cassis so it can be used in node/browserify? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426782686315
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snarfed gRegor`: sigh yeah. why special case twitter though?
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tantek bret - sure!
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gRegor` snarfed: Same as with facebook, the u-url is the post's URL, not unique tot he like/repost action.
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bret ill try to keep it php compatible but ill need you to double check it
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snarfed gRegor`: right, but source is unique and should work fine
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek, i think we are all here
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kylewm aaronpk: snarfed: I noticed the first time I sent the bridgy permalink through pin13's parser, it came back blank. Maybe an error when fetching it the first time?
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gRegor` Oh, continue using bridgy wm.source? I suppose.
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snarfed gRegor`: maybe yeah. fb 2.x api seems to be the only troublemaker
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gRegor` I hadn't considered that. I was moving away from bridgy source URLs to the actual u-url. I'll think about it some more.
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tantek bret - I think barnabywalters sent me a pull request for PHP modules or something
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tantek so a separate file for Node or whatever other module / package system is fine too
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tantek_ Etherpad for today: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cambridge
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snarfed gRegor`: understood. thanks for pushing on it!
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bret you would be getting a package.json and a few exports.auto_link = auto_link; ... etc inside cassis.js
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snarfed (gRegor`: also, just fyi, bridgy wm sources will often have multiple u-like-of, u-repost-of, u-mention, etc links, and no guarantee on ordering, so be careful if you always use just the first)
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gRegor` I'm working on a webmention plugin for ProcessWire, so trying to be the most future-proof with wm processing... but maybe that's not necessary.
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@HongPong RT @sillygwailo: Known was able to receive a Webmention sent by Drupal. http://r13n.com/2014/webmention-in-drupal I needed microformats implemented on the Dru… (twitter.com/_/status/578608727474860032)
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bret (or whatever the function name that we want to expose is)
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gRegor` I noticed that. I was going to ask why the same u-like-of shows up multiple times in there.
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bret ill take a quick pass at it and you can take a look
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snarfed tantek, GWG, etc at IWC: pls say hi to sandro for me! i'd love to hear a status update on cimba, any interop with indieweb, etc!
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GWG Hi delivered
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GWG Time for Barcamp style planning
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GWG Etherpad is being prepared
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@HongPong @manarth hey i am at #indiewebcamp Cambridge(US) wondering if i can help integrate vinculum module with indieweb, trying to help w docs... (twitter.com/_/status/578610044251455488)
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@pierreozoux I love the search feature of @withknown ! This is so much ore convenient than facebook or twitter! #IndieWeb This .. https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/i-love-the-search-feature-of-withknown-this-is-so (twitter.com/_/status/578610454324477952)
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gRegor` snarfed: For FB I could use u-url (not changed) + author name and hope two John Smiths don't comment on the same status. :)
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snarfed gRegor`: ugly, but sure. or just remove dupes manually? you shouldn't keep getting dupes going forward, so that shouldn't be too much work
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snarfed manual until it hurts :P
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gRegor` true true :)
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hongpong greetings benwerd
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benwerd howdy!
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gRegor` I don't mind manual. Guessing FB API doesn't expose the like permalinks? e.g. https://www.facebook.com/gregorlove/posts/10101553133480124:15
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fjh what is link for public pad?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "link for public pad" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=link+for+public+pad&summary=prompted+by+fjh+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426787271170
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gRegor` fjh: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cambridge
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kylewm gRegor`: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/334
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hongpong also, heres a thing. i edited a drupal module to extract out Facebook *page* content streams, ingest into Feeds module. I can get this out on github by tomorrow i think (GPL)
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kylewm gRegor`: (it's not the exact same issue for like permalinks, but related)
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kylewm some intriguing session slugs on there
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gRegor` Ooh, Drupal. Might be the first indieweb user?
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gRegor` adds /Drupal
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gRegor` hongpong: When you get a chance, can you add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/Drupal#IndieWeb_Examples ?
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kylewm GWG: that's me on talky
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gRegor` Better audio on talky now?
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kylewm yes
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gRegor` I'm the mysterious black screen on talky
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bret tantek_: https://github.com/tantek/cassis/pull/19
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ben_thatmustbeme talky.io/indiewebcam-alt for second room right now
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GWG indiewebcam?
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ben_thatmustbeme camp*
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gRegor` Which session is in alt, ben_thatmustbeme?
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gRegor` Intro to a/v? :)
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ben_thatmustbeme thought-post
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gRegor` http://talky.io/indiewebcam-alt is https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-thoughtpost currently
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ben_thatmustbeme https://talky.io/indiewebcamp-alt
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gRegor` Yes
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gRegor` We can hear you :)
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ben_thatmustbeme excellent
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ben_thatmustbeme muting my laptop so if you want to talk, let me know
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gRegor` https://talky.io/indiewebcamp is https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-userinfo
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gRegor` Nobody appears to be taking notes there, though. Just created the etherpad
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gRegor` jumps back to alt
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fahrstuhl Do I get this right that there's no way to get Facebook liking and commenting on my website, safe for manual copy and paste?
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd... drinks from a mug "Matter"
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benwerd ben_thatmustbeme: http://matter.vc product placement
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ben_thatmustbeme i figured
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benwerd (I feel like the product placement pirate in Monkey Island. Ask me about Loom ...)
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bret GWG: are there active talky sessions right now?
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gRegor` bret, there are two
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bret just foundem
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gRegor` bret: https://talky.io/indiewebcamp userinfo; https://talky.io/indiewebcamp-alt thought-post
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bret gRegornobacktick++
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Loqi gRegornobacktick has 46 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme was going to lose power before the session was up
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bret tantek: one more https://github.com/tantek/cassis/pull/20
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snarfed benwerd++ for lucasarts references! (i finished the grim fandango remaster just a couple weeks ago)
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Loqi benwerd has 66 karma
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snarfed kylewm++ for great reply contexts, even for silos, e.g. https://kylewm.com/2015/03/what-that-s-crazy-so-cool
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Loqi kylewm has 139 karma
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gRegor` thought-post: The draft posts in my CMS end up just sitting there and forgotten.
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benwerd snarfed: Run you pigeons, it's Robert Frost!
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Loqi slack/snarfed: lol
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hongpong1 is there a good indiewebcamp linter? I would love something like a w3c validator for developing on this
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kylewm hongpong1: like indiewebify.me?
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hongpong1 oh perfect kylewm thanks
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bret hongpong1: unfortunately only super high level and low level right now
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bret http://glennjones.net/tools/microformats/ is good for debugging microformats
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bret hongpong1: if you need mentions or links you can ask here as well!
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hongpong1 im just trying to figure out how i could work this into drupal. is most of the tags pretty much the same as official microformats then?
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bret im not familiar with drupal, but people have some sites with super high indiemark scores using wordpress
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bret (which is similar i think)
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hongpong1 i started the drupal notes here https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-drupal im getting access to the vinculum module that can do webmentions now
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bret bummer that webRTC is so cpu intensive still
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bret hongpong1: cool! dont forget to dump the notes into http://indiewebcamp.com/Drupal when the coference is over
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hongpong1 definitely
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tantek benwerd: you still on talky?
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd, are you still on talky?
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benwerd I'm not, but can rejoin
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hongpong1 yr getting props in here dude
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tantek just got a great testimonial about Known helping someone change how they blog
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tantek and helping them blog far more often
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benwerd Aw, I missed it! Who was it? I want to thank them personally
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benwerd Also, I don't see a feed at https://talky.io/indiewebcam
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benwerd oh
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benwerd d'oh
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tantek co-worker of Tim Owens
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benwerd Jim!
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ben_thatmustbeme yes Jim
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bret benwerd: https://talky.io/indiewebcamp-alt
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benwerd thanks
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benwerd am back
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benwerd (Working in the background on an integration)
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tantek cool
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tantek benwerd is back!
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benwerd ;)
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tantek we're taking notes in Etherpad
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tantek etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-thoughtpost
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@kylewm2 @steveklabnik totally agree on both counts. we’ve been struggling with this in #indiewebcamp. IRC can be daunting for new people (twitter.com/_/status/578630199211786240)
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bret brb sorry about the part sounds
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hongpong1 can someone post our schedule on Imgur or something? i bumped my drupal thing back an hr
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gRegor` hongpong1: The main etherpad? https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cambridge
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gRegor` Interesting slack/IRC conversation in that thread, kylewm
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hongpong1 i mean the stickynotes on the wall
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hongpong1 forgot theres a padd too. i want to see the chromify thing, which room is that? interested in node
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benwerd Alas, Talky is breaking up for me.
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gRegor` I like tantek's suggestion of setting aside a fixed time (hour) to work on the *next* thing you want to blog about, and hone the topic down to the point that you can get it published within that time.
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aaronpk oo blogging hour at IWC?
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gRegor` Good focus practice
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hongpong1 which one is in room 312 now?
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gRegor` No, part of the thought-post session. How to capture thoughts/drafts and get them into posts eventually
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aaronpk good afternoon from Seattle!
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@dissolve333 Ben Roberts March 19, 2015 3:07 PM Shortlink Indiewebcamp schedule grid (btmb.me s/8B) https://twitter.com/dissolve333/status/578634579247902720/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/578634579247902720)
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hongpong1 sorry i gotta bump back drupal again to 5PM
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hongpong1 live video at chromify thing https://talky.io/indiewebcamp-alt
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ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/upload/photo/29612
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ben_thatmustbeme thats the schedule grid as it stands now
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ben_thatmustbeme or rather as it stood before
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ben_thatmustbeme feel free to add that to the wiki someone
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@jimgroom .@timmmmyboy is currently building a tilde space server at #indiewebcamp Be still my heart. (twitter.com/_/status/578636717953003520)
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kylewm just jumped into talky, is the unix permissions conversation part of the tilde discussion?
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tantek yes
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kylewm tantek: thx
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tantek since you start a tilde account with a ~username directory, with stuff in it and have to decide what you want private, share with "friends" (group), or everyone on the tilde
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tantek organizer note: 8 people in the main room are interested in dinner
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gRegor` talky alt has echo due to two videos, I think
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tilgovi https://github.com/tilgovi/pouchdb/tree/pouch-server/app/chrome
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tantek and 0 people in room 312
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gRegor` https://talky.io/indiewebcamp-alt is https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-chromify currently
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gRegor` https://talky.io/indiewebcamp is https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-tilde currently
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hongpong1 is my chromify one echoey
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gRegor` hongpong1: Yeah
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gRegor` Shows two videos for some reason. Mute one?
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gRegor` I jumped over to tilde currently, though.
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kylewm the audio in the main room is excellent, btw
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gRegor` tilde session is about setting up your own tilde server?
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hongpong1 does that fix the echo? this app confuses me thats for sure
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: could you help with filling out time rows in https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/Schedule similar to the 14:00 row from https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cambridge ?
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek, sure
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tilgovi Loqi: !meme abstractify all the things!
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tilgovi !meme
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tilgovi ugh
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@barryf RT @jimgroom: #IndieWebCamp group photo at #MIT meetup https://twitter.com/jimgroom/status/578591055358083072/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/578643863771828224)
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aaronpk tilgovi: sowwie, mems only work on the w3c Loqi
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aaronpk i should probably move that in here pretty soon
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Loqi I agree
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tantek__ https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/thoughtpost archived from etherpad!
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snarfed thoughtpost reminds me of thoughtcrime
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snarfed i'm guessing that was intentional?
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aaronpk lol
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tantek__ snarfed ;)
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tantek snarfed, it's also a subtle reference to KevinMarks's byline.
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snarfed aww sad. i went to http://www.kevinmarks.com/ to see the byline, and it wasn't there, so i had to find it on https://twitter.com/kevinmarks
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tantek snarfed, indeed. deliberate indiesnipe ;)
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tantek benwerd do you know how why Known flips images? (sometimes?)
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aaronpk i assume because some cameras embed rotation info into the jpg and others actually store the pixels in the proper orientation
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tantek see http://timowens.io/2015/indiewebcamp-cambridge-2015
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tantek and then click on the image and see the "full" version, which is flipped
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tantek that tells me that Known is doing something inconsistent
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bret is it over?
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tantek is what over?
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tantek we're at 16:08 local time
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tantek see: https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/Schedule
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@jimgroom Love that @timmmmyboy took @indiewebcamp folks thru setting up a tilde club. Here's mine http://indieweb.community/~jgroom/ with props to @GIFmodel (twitter.com/_/status/578650989487591425)
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aaronpk really? not indieweb.club? ;)
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GWG aaronpk: Someone had it
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aaronpk whaaa!
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aaronpk oh it's Joschi!
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GWG Who? What?
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aaronpk he's organizing indiewebcamp Germany in May
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GWG Oh
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aaronpk i'm on mute
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kylewm i like indieweb.community better anyway!!
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kylewm timmmmyboy++
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aaronpk yeah
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benwerd tantek: sorry, was stepping out. Flips images? As in mirror images them?
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tantek benwerd - rotates upside down
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aaronpk huh... i just noticed that there are three feeds added for my site in Monocle
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kylewm more than likely it loses the camera rotation information when it resizes the image
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kylewm i had that problem with redwind
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timmmmyboy Ironically Known is the only site that got it right in the post whereas everyone else showed it upside down
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aaronpk maybe this is what the topic URL is for
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aaronpk people have entered: https://aaronparecki.com/ http://aaronparecki.com/ and http://aaronpk.com/
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tantek benwerd, see: http://timowens.io/2015/indiewebcamp-cambridge-2015 and then click on the image for the "full version" - note that it flips
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timmmmyboy Or any of the syndicated versions
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benwerd I'm actually wondering if it was _taken_ upside down - i.e. the internal rotation was 180 degrees
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benwerd We do take note of, and adjust according to, the EXIF rotation
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benwerd I'll take a look
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aaronpk all of them have the same topic_url
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kylewm aaronpk: interesting, woodwind has three for you as well: http://aaronparecki.com/, https://aaronparecki.com, and http://aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk but anybody can say their topic URL is my site, so I can't de-dupe on that, or people could hijack my feed
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kylewm i have a note in there to canonicalize them
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timmmmyboy benwerd: I suspect that might be the case. However iPhone figures it out in photos app, but no one else apparently can (unless in Exif and got stripped?)
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aaronpk kylewm: you should at least be adding the trailing slash to a bare domain since a bare domain isn't a complete URL
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aaronpk but the http / https thing is my fault since I serve my site from both
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aaronpk i'm not sure how to handle the aaronpk.com vs aaronparecki.com case
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kylewm the / bit is already a known issue in github
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benwerd timmmmyboy: I think that's exactly it. We deliberately strip GPS from stored photos (and store it alongside, in the db) to help protect your privacy - it's probably accidentally get this too
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aaronpk benwerd++ nice touch
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Loqi benwerd has 67 karma
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aaronpk how does benwerd have only 67 karma
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aaronpk benwerd++
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benwerd needs to come to more of the meetings ;)
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aaronpk or hang out in IRC more
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rhiaro benwerd: come to Edinburgh :D
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aaronpk or Düsseldorf!
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rhiaro or both!
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aaronpk yeah!
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rhiaro I already met benwerd in Edinburgh once so I figure it can happen again
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kylewm go to Düsseldorf and have an umlaut party
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benwerd I'm looking at dates and figuring it all out - I'm not exactly on a high-quality salary right now so I'm being careful :)
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aaronpk I'll bring all the Umlauts
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cweiske äööüß
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tantek benwerd you just need to ask for someone to be your patron for your art-making :)
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benwerd Ãœmläüt pärtÿ!
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aaronpk is trying to pronounce äü in his head
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benwerd :)
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rhiaro like 'eugh'?
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aaronpk depends on how you pronounce 'eugh'
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benwerd rhiaro: it doesn't take much convincing to get me to come back to Edinburgh. And I have a high school reunion in Oxford in early August.
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aaronpk okay i'm punting on the "duplicate" feed URL issue for now...
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aaronpk but that needs to be added to the spec
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aaronpk which seems like a +1 for writing PuSH 0.5
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benwerd Hey, does anyone support OExchange or something like it?
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JHSheridan kylewm or anyone else using Redwind around?
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aaronpk what is OExchange?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OExchange" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=OExchange&summary=prompted+by+aaronpk+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426797047321
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kylewm i'm here, what's up JHSheridan
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benwerd On it
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aaronpk benwerd: you can just say "OExchange is ..." here now :-D
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JHSheridan We discussed this briefly before, but can you run me thru getting Redwind setup again
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tantek benwerd, re: umlaut party, see my proposal: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2003Apr/0012.html
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JHSheridan I've started a venv instance and installed the things from requirements.txt
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aaronpk tantek wrote an email?!
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benwerd OExchange is a simple web-based convention for sharing any website via any platform on the web. It is supported by AddThis among other services, and includes provisions for sharing services to be auto-discovered by browsers and other tools.
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loqi.me created /OExchange (+267) "prompted by aaronpk https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426797047321 and dfn added by benwerd" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk :)
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@soapfanfiction #OnTheSoapBox Check out #indieweb Superhero @MCarusoactor of @WINTERTHORNE1 & @DeVanityseries TODAY on @TradioV's @theradiosoapbox @ 5e/4c (twitter.com/_/status/578655707987369984)
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kylewm JHSheridan: sure, you'll need to copy config.py.template to config.py, and fill it out wiht your database connection information (can just use sqlite if developing locally), and run run install.py to generate the tables and such
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JHSheridan ah... that's what that error meant... sigh
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kylewm JHSheridan: then uwsgi uwsgi-dev.ini and you should have it running on localhost:5000
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JHSheridan Should have gotten that one myself
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tantek aaronpk note date of email :)
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JHSheridan You said you're having better luck with sqllite than redis, right?
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benwerd tantek: I humbly also submit 'text-transform:1337'
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aaronpk 12 years ago? lol
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aaronpk tehehe
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tantek benwerd - see one of the replies to that: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2003Apr/0017.html
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rhiaro 's contact page is currently at amy.so/cial
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JHSheridan Sorry... I meant sqllite over postgres
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kylewm JHSheridan: I use redis (for the asynchronous work queue), and the actual persistent storage is in sqlite for development and postgres in production
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benwerd tantek: my faith in standards bodies is restored
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aaronpk rhiaro++ that is an amazing contact page!
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Loqi rhiaro has 39 karma
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cweiske aaronpk, could you please check the auth sequence? http://www.websequencediagrams.com/cgi-bin/cdraw?lz=dGl0bGUgQXV0aGVudGljYXRpb24gU2VxdWVuY2UKClVzZXIgYnJvd3Nlci0-K1dlYiBhcHBsACIHOiAxLiBDbGljayAiTG9naW4iCgATDy0-KwA-BVNlcnZlcjogMi4gRmV0Y2ggaG9tZXBhZ2UAXAYAGQYtLT4tAFIQCm5vdGUgb3ZlciAAbg8KICAgIERpc2MAGAVhdXRoIGVuZHBvaW50CmVuZCBub3RlAH4RLT4tAIFHDDogMy4gUmVkaXJlY3QgdG8AOA8AgW8PQQBYDDogNC4gVmVyaWZ5IHVzZXIKABENAFcSNQBbDncAgjwOICh3aXRoIHRva2
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cweiske VuKQCCVSFMb2FkIACCOQUAgl0SAIEWDzYAgRwJAFcFAIEUEgCCQi9Mb2cAgWoFIGluAII7KzcuIFNob3cAgS8F&s=qsd
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rhiaro ha thanks aaronpk. Some of the speech bubbles are a big ambiguous
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rhiaro I'm ditching amy.so in september so I loose the cool domain :(
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cweiske hm. too long.
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cweiske https://www.websequencediagrams.com/index.php?png=mscgplGNN
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aaronpk amy.gy is better anyway :)
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rhiaro totally.
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aaronpk cweiske: i think that looks right
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cweiske thanks
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aaronpk that's just response_type=id right?
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cweiske yep
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cweiske but code is the same
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cweiske not really
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cweiske would be longer
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cweiske but for id it's all, yes
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aaronpk lol at long URL in console IRC client http://aaronparecki.com/uploads/irc-20150319-134353.png
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cweiske same here in xchat
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@PinoBatch @fedwiki According to http://indiewebcamp.com/Smallest_Federated_Wiki it costs $180 per year to participate in Federated Wiki. What am I misunderstanding? (twitter.com/_/status/578658724354600962)
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gRegor` I thought there was a 'coffee' contact type on rhiaro's page and got excited. Guess it's actually bitbucket, though. :)
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kylewm wat
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rhiaro haha
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gRegor` http://amy.so/cial/
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kylewm waht's up with that question about SFW; nothing about costs anywhere on that page
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: it is a total up of http://indiewebcamp.com/Smallest_Federated_Wiki#Notes_from_Ward
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timmmmyboy AWS is expensive recommendation for anyone getting a small VPS. I mentioned Digital Ocean to them.
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kylewm my bad, thanks KartikPrabhu (I searched for dollars and $, didn't think to look for cents)
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aaronpk micro instances got cheaper, especially if you pre-pay for a year
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aaronpk but yeah AWS is not really a good fit for stuff like this
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tantek__ ben see https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-messaging
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ben_thatmustbeme test
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ben_thatmustbeme test
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kylewm looks like Amazon EC2 starts at $15 a month
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aaronpk i coulda sworn it was cheaper
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aaronpk still it's a bizarre ecosystem ot get into if you think you're going to just run one server
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kylewm $14.64
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kylewm :)
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aaronpk especially since now they are trying to discourage running a server with a public IP
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kylewm aaronpk: sorry you're right, it goes down to $10 if you pay up front
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kylewm i missed that option
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aaronpk okay yeah
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kylewm but yes everything you said
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snarfed fwiw AWS has a year long free trial period
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aaronpk I would actually actively discourage ppl from using it unless they have an architecture that requires more than a single server
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snarfed also depends a lot on the person. i'd discourage VPSes altogether unless you're very technical and *want* to sysadmin
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aaronpk true
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snarfed hence https://indiewebcamp.com/web_hosting#Criteria
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aaronpk it's just a step above VPS for sure
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snarfed honestly for non technical people, blogger, wordpress.com, and tumblr are all totally reasonable ways to start out on indieweb
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snarfed they can do own domain, mf2, webmentions, most of the core stuff
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kylewm threatening to pull the future session!
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tantek now that the future is here, it's less interesting
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aaronpk lol wat
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JHSheridan hahaha
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tantek what is pigeon?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "pigeon" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=pigeon&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426799172831
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tantek what is libpurple?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "libpurple" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=libpurple&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-03-19%2Fline%2F1426799191145
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tantek__ update: https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/Schedule
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kylewm pigeon is /pidgin
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loqi.me created /pigeon (+19) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-03-19/line/1426799172831 and dfn added by kylewm" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tilgovi re: The Future http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405336/quotes?item=qt0339861
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tantek what is the future?
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Loqi scheduling in the context of the indieweb, refers to the feature of setting a specific time for a post to be published in the future https://indiewebcamp.com/future
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JHSheridan I'm up and running, KyleWM
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JHSheridan Thx for the help... klyewm++
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JHSheridan kylewm++
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Loqi kylewm has 140 karma
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JHSheridan Running python3 instead of 2 solved a lot of issues... lol
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kylewm JHSheridan: that's great! haha yeah I don't think it will work on 2
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tantek__ we're talking about different presentation for different kinds of posts
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JHSheridan kylewm: you told me that before, but I'd just forfotten
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cweiske aaronpk, this time made with an open source tool: http://p.cweiske.de/182
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tantek__ in the main room
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aaronpk cweiske: nice
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cweiske.de uploaded /File:indieauth-authorization-process.png "Made with the open source "sdedit" tool.Sequence code:#![IndieAuth: Authorization process]browser:Browser "User browser"webapp:Application "Web application"server:Webserver "User web server"authendpoint:Webserver "Auth endpoint"browser:3. Redirect to auth endpoint=webapp.1. Click "Login"webapp:server.2. Fetch homepagewebapp:*1 webappDiscover auth endpoint*1(1) webappbrowser:5. Redirect to web application=authendpoint.4. Verify userbrowser:7. Show page=webapp.Load pagewebapp:authendpoint.6 .Verify tokenwebapp:*2 webappLog user in*2 (2) webapp"
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pdurbin ben_thatmustbeme: did you all decide where dinner is? /cc tantek__ GWG et. al
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tantek__ kylewm we are critiquing your reply presentation :)
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kylewm tantek__: I'm reddening in shame
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ben_thatmustbeme Pdurbin. We have not worked that out yet. I will not be attending and it's only 8 or 9 people
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ben_thatmustbeme pdurbin: tantek asks if you can meet us here
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pdurbin meet you there when?
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tantek__ pdurbin see location at what is IndieWebCamp Cambridge
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pdurbin emphasis on when :)
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tantek__ 18:00
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pdurbin could probably swing that. same room as last time?
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tantek__ yes!
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pdurbin sameroom++
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Loqi sameroom has 1 karma
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hongpong im trying to add notes but its hard to read the verbs https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-kindsofposts !
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tantek like favorite share bookmark linkblog listen repost reply
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hongpong thanks tantek
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tantek thanks for etherpadding!
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@sleslie @jimgroom love the expression "tilde club," ah it brings me back. Thanks also for ref to @indiewebcamp, interesting stuff (twitter.com/_/status/578669449215025152)
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ben_thatmustbeme barryf, have a link i can click to?
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cweiske aaronpk, can "scope" contain multiple verbs?
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aaronpk sure
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aaronpk multiple values, not necessarily verbs
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cweiske comma-separated?
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tantek__ kylewm we're back to you ;)
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kylewm that's really useful feedback honestly
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kylewm it makes me happy :)
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kylewm (and just a little embarrassed)
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@GIFmodel @jimgroom @timmmmyboy @indiewebcamp just to make it clear -- none of the ladies is me (twitter.com/_/status/578671653468655616)
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tantek__ OH: "but then you get into javascript, and no."
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JHSheridan kylewm: What's your normal workflow through RedWind to do something simple
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JHSheridan kylewm: like posting a tweet
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kylewm JHSheridan: I have a bookmark for kylewm.com/new
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kylewm and bookmarklets for Reply, Like, Bookmark, Repost
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JHSheridan ah... now I see
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JHSheridan I can login w/ indieauth, but it says I can only poke around in the backend
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JHSheridan I assume that's b/c of some static setting somewhere?
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JHSheridan or b/c I'm developing locally?
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kylewm ah JHSheridan, yes hmm let me look
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pdurbin tantek__: jumping on my bike now. will try to get there fast
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tantek__ no problem pdurbin, we'll wait for you!
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barryf https://barryfrost.com/2015/01/i-ve-been-forcing-myself-to
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kylewm JHSheridan: it looks like you need to add it to the database manually, sorry
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barryf (presentation example)
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hongpong ah here's FontAwesome if you want font glyphs http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/
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JHSheridan kylewm No worries, man... thank you for the quick help.
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kylewm JHSheridan: update setting set value='yourdomain.com' where key='author_domain';
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kylewm replace yourdomain.com with your actual domain
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hongpong here is the current pad https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-kindsofposts
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KevinMarks_ Is there a way to put a byline in an hCard?
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tantek KevinMarks_: did you see my site ;)
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KevinMarks_ How do I view source on my phone?
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tantek http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://tantek.com/
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tantek :)
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KevinMarks_ T͞e̴̙̱x͙̯̣̩̠̕ţ̞-̖̼͍̣̜t̙̀r͉̪͇̹a̲̪̬͙̞̝n̘̙̖ͅs̮̖̦̗͖͢f̷o̗̹̞r̷̳̫̳͕̣̫̣m͏͇:̧̜̩͉̳͖z̹͍̪ͅá͔̙̟͇͕l̛͍̹̻g̴o̶
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sandro thanks, KevinMarks
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tantek how far down does that go?
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tantek__ https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Cambridge/Schedule
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KevinMarks_ Invisible byline?
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sandro Breakout rooms: 312 (after 11:30am) and D507 (until 1:30pm)
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JHSheridan Can you think of any other spots to update the domain, kylewm? Updated the author_domain and site_url fields in the setting table
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tantek KevinMarks_: no it's in my sidebar
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kylewm JHSheridan: you just need to set author_domain so you can log in, then you can edit all the settings under /settings
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JHSheridan hmm... still having issues authenticating kylewm
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JHSheridan Just to be positivve, I should be authenticating w/ JHSheridan.com, right?
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kylewm JHSheridan: it may be an issue with capitalization, I expect you'd want to set author_domain to jhsherian.com
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kylewm s/jhsherian.com/jhsheridan.com
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Loqi kylewm meant to say: JHSheridan: it may be an issue with capitalization, I expect you'd want to set author_domain to jhsheridan.com
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JHSheridan wait... hwat do you mean by s/jhsherian.com/jhsheridan.com
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JHSheridan I get forwarded to indieauth as expected, but I keep coming back to a login page
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tantek !tell pdurbin we are headed to The Asgard for dinner
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm I was just fixing my typo "jhsherian" -> "jhsheridan"
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JHSheridan oh gotcha
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kylewm JHSheridan: hmm, if it's not a capitalization problem i don't have a guess, anything interesting in the console output? (make sure you have DEBUG = True in the config.py)
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JHSheridan ha! it was a capitalization issue, but I just didn't see it on the surface
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JHSheridan I was logging in w/ jhsheridan.com
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JHSheridan and I manually entered jhsheridan.com into the db
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JHSheridan but the debug output showed "logging in with JHSheridan.com"
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kylewm well hmm that is confusing
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JHSheridan logged in as long as I log in as JHSheridan.com
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KartikPrabhu domain names are case-insensitive right?
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KartikPrabhu sorry missing out on this indiewebcamp stuff. having a long email thread fight with people across the pond doing shit science and demanding citations
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kylewm they are, yes, but i haven't seen a domain name come back from indieauth with captial letters before
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kylewm JHSheridan: you can change this line to call .lower() on both sides before doing the comparison https://github.com/kylewm/redwind/blob/master/redwind/models.py#L101
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JHSheridan good call
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JHSheridan I'm going to try to document some of this as I go along
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KartikPrabhu JHSheridan++ for documeting problems
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Loqi JHSheridan has 1 karma
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@dissolve333 Made the train home from indiewebcamp with 4 minutes too spare. *phew* (btmb.me s/8C) (twitter.com/_/status/578689931788218368)
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snarfed kylewm++ for just-in-time generalizing redwind to support other users!
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Loqi kylewm has 141 karma
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snarfed JHSheridan++ too
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JHSheridan yes... kylewm++
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kylewm thedod did a lot of the generalization work :) there were many more instances of my domain in the code before he came along
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JHSheridan Redwind is the excuse I've been looking for to play with flask
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WilliamDhalgren hi! anyone active?
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kylewm WilliamDhalgren: hi, welcome
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WilliamDhalgren o hi!
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KevinMarks_ Hi
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bret heya
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WilliamDhalgren just found out about this approach to avoiding the silos. apparently I just missed some live camp sessions, will there be records of these eventually?
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WilliamDhalgren I'm currently listening to some previous ones on yt
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kylewm hmm, I don't honestly know if the sessions were recorded today
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kylewm WilliamDhalgren: do you have a personal site already?
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WilliamDhalgren I'm half-way writing it in hakyll
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WilliamDhalgren so no
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WilliamDhalgren which is a perfect motivation to add a bit of extra markup to be compatible with the protocols popular around here I guess :D
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WilliamDhalgren on that, I thought I'd use my past reddit comments as a source for ideas and very rough drafts (some comments are rather long) for early posts. anyone have experience in getting one's data out of reddit? I was able to query my comment history but what I quickly tried in console only gave a 999-element long list of past
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snarfed what is reddit
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Loqi Reddit is a link aggregator and bulletin board site where community members may submit links and text posts, vote on the submitted entries, and post comments on them https://indiewebcamp.com/Reddit
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snarfed WilliamDhalgren: check there? ^^
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snarfed if not, feel free to add any progress you make
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WilliamDhalgren yeah, its just a stub. nvm, I'll google further, its not like I gave it a good try yet anyhow
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bengo Relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9231386