#indiewebcamp 2012-06-07

2012-06-07 UTC
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@pkbot mentioned in #indiewebcamp 2012-05-31 http://t.co/3cGqWnsN [Google Alerts]
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@unhosted Indie Web Camp (2nd edition, in Portland) coming up http://t.co/EliVdY5V We'll be there - the first sighting of Unhosted outside Eurasia!
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Guest_List (+358) "/* Remote Participants */ Added myself as remote participant" (view diff)
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barnabywalters how is the remote participation going to work? IRC or video feed or what?
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Nadreck I think that's still under discussion. I know the idea of a Google Hangout was floated, and of course there's the IRC channel. If you have a strong opinion, please, suggest it :)
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barnabywalters I'm open to google hangout if it's the best way of doing things — I'd rather not join G+, but if there isn't a better solution, then no problem
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theoutpost.io edited /2012/Guest_List (+214) "/* Creators */" (view diff)
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tantek barnabywalters - I think we at least have Will Norris from Google (who works on G+) going this year - maybe we can get him to setup a G+ hangout for us
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@t On 2012-06-30 all your content+permalinks on #Apple MobileMe Gallery, iDisk, iWeb dies. #iCloud #ownyourdata #indieweb (ttk.me t4JJ4)
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aaronpk wait what?
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tantek aaronpk - yeah exactly
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tantek see: http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57445683-285/apple-reminds-users-of-mobileme-closure/
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tantek and http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/07/technology/personaltech/goodbye-mobileme-hello-smugmug-dropbox-and-jimdo-state-of-the-art.html?pagewanted=all
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tantek we need a wiki page documenting the site/hosting/permalink deaths every year
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aaronpk yea great idea
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tantek so many to keep up with :(
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aaronpk you have a pretty good collection in your status updates
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tantek I've been tagging them ownyourdata
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brennannovak https://twitter.com/codinghorror/status/210158549404356609
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@codinghorror I just joked that URL shorteners should creative commons their URL databases and realized, uh, they actually should
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tantek and actually, google search should work pretty good for that
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brennannovak whoa http://archive.org/details/301works
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tantek brennannovak - yeah that's been in the works for a while
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tantek codinghorror just re-thought-it-up. happens often. smart people recreate what's already been thought/created.
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brennannovak tantek: heh, I see
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tantek ironically, often a simple google search will find the prior art
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tantek btw - as sent to mobileme users on 2012-06-30: http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/06/01/MobileMeReminder.png
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tantek need some naming help
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tantek what to call sites that died
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tantek site-deaths?
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tantek dead-silos?
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tantek I'm leaning toward site-death
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aaronpk the only problem with "site" is that we aren't collecing a list of dead sites per se, just a list of sites that had permalinks from users
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aaronpk i.e. it's not very relevant when a social network site goes offline, but something like blogger would be
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tantek most social network sites have permalinked content
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tantek public permalinked content even
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aaronpk hm I suppose so
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tantek I think we can focus on site deaths rather than app deaths (e.g. if gmail died)
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aaronpk yes, gmail is a good example of something not to include in this list
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aaronpk so I guess "site" describes it well then
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tantek alternative suggested names welcome!