#indiewebcamp

2012-07-06

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@indiewebcamp
@adambyrtek you're right. That's exactly what inspired the creator-focused IndieWebCamp•com: to create, live, breathe usable #indieweb tools ()
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tantek
aaronpk, I've implemented date-ordered (most recent first) search on tantek.com thanks to the tips you shared
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tantek
with a minor tweak
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tantek
the 'tbs' param value that you suggested was already URL escaped - it needs to be unescaped for use in an input type=hidden
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tantek
e.g.
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tantek
<input type="hidden" name="tbs" value="sbd:1,cdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1970"/>
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tantek
that plus the as_sitesearch as a hidden input:
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tantek
<input type="hidden" name="as_sitesearch" value="tantek.com"/>
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tantek
does the trick when added to the visible 'q' input text field:
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tantek
<input type="search" name="q"/>
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tantek
altogether in a block of <form> code:
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tantek
<form class="search" action="http://www.google.com/search" method="get">
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tantek
<input type="hidden" name="as_sitesearch" value="tantek.com"/>
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tantek
<input type="hidden" name="tbs" value="sbd:1,cdr:1,cd_min:1/1/1970"/>
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tantek
<input type="search" name="q"/>
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tantek
<button type="submit">Search</button>
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tantek
</form>
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tantek
that's likely worth an IndieWeb how-to blog post
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tantek
(for indieweb blogs that implement PuSH at least)
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@xtof_fr
Wired : #Wiki Inventor Sticks a Fork in His Baby http://t.co/L8iCMZen #indieweb ()
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@julien51
@marshallk :) I was hoping to see you last weekend for #indiewebcamp. Of have shown u the butler and you'd loved it! ()
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Loqi
evanp: Unify identifiers when Edge and inverted Edge are created
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Loqi
1 files modified, 1 new files in evanp/openfollow/master by evanp https://github.com/evanp/openfollow/compare/83b12a8c07e5...1b7edecdc9dd
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Loqi
1 files modified in evanp/openfollow/master by evanp https://github.com/evanp/openfollow/compare/1b7edecdc9dd...d626454b6b50
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Loqi
evanp: complementary -> inverted
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tantek
good day all - happy leet-o-clock (PDT)
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aaronpk
w00t
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Loqi
yay!
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tantek
I was thinking of creating a set of metrics for measuring the "indieweb"ness of individual sites, so that we could measure both our own individual progress and collectively
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aaronpk
that's an interesting idea!
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tantek
perhaps into areas and then levels in each area
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tantek
how about "indiemark" as a working name for this?
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aaronpk
indierank?
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tantek
I thought about rank - but rank implies a serial order
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aaronpk
I would want it to fit into a sentence like "My site's ____ is 8/10" or "What ____ did your site get?"
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aaronpk
but that's true about the order
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tantek
because there are several areas, and you can be ahead or behind in any particular area, I thought "mark" was better, similar to the "ringmark" effort at W3C
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tantek
except ours would actually be sensible
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aaronpk
lol
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tantek
a lot of this is based on my Diso 2.0 thinking which contains multiple dimensions of independence / self-reliance / robustness: http://tantek.com/2010/034/t2/diso-2-personal-domains-shortener-hatom-push-relmeauth
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tantek
one of the challenges of any "*-mark" system is to figure out abstract levels that one technology can satisfy today and another could replace tomorrow.
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tantek
any ranking/mark system that depends on a specific technology tends to either look silly after a while, or unfortunately cause people to waste time implementing obsolete technologies just to earn a specific level
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tantek
alright, that's probably enough to start braindumping on a wiki page
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aaronpk
just realized that also I wouldn't want an x/10 score because some of the points I may not feel the need for
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Wraithan
13:36:53 @tantek | good day all - happy leet-o-clock (PDT)
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Wraithan
lol'd
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aaronpk
#9 in your list is a good example... maybe I don't want comments on my site at all, so I will never hit that point
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tantek
note #9 is edit/comment authorization
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tantek
so you could for example satisfy that by having a white-list of folks who you allow to make edits to your post per http://indiewebcamp.com/sign-in-use-cases#minor_edits
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tantek
one of the reasons I want to do this as a "mark" with areas/levels is that IMHO "SWAT0" was too hard and unsustainable - that is - I believe some implementations claimed to pass SWAT0, but that perhaps only Statusnet is still around?
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aaronpk
oh yes... SWAT0
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tantek
it also prioritized the wrong things (IMHO) from an *indieweb* perspective
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aaronpk
right
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tantek
I mean, it made sense from the FSW framing at the time perspective.
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aaronpk
yea, the other nice thing is that whatever ranking/mark system this ends up being will also help give people an idea of the kinds of goals of the indieweb in an easy to consume manner
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tantek
e.g. cliqset(.com) is gone - and I think it was used to pass SWAT0
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tantek
I don't even know if we have 3 implementations that can be used to pass SWAT0 any more.
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tantek
I'm not sure how "easy to consume" it will be - though that should be a goal
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tantek
BTW - I'm still a bit annoyed/bitter how W3C effectively killed the FSW effort. They took over the wiki, required you to join the W3C "Federated Social Web Incubator Group" (previous logins were dropped) and then eventually closed that group.
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tantek
I have no idea how to edit: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/SWAT0
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tantek
and I wrote most of it!
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aaronpk
yea really! What have they done since then? There was a conference call or something later, right?
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aaronpk
"Please join the new (January 2012) W3C Federated Social Web Community Group ! Some links and information on this Wiki need to be updated." ?
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tantek
yeah
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aaronpk
hey they linked to indiewebcamp on the main page!
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tantek
yeah! User:Pelf did that
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tantek
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=1065&oldid=1064
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tantek
whoa - he doesn't use money: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/federatedsocialweb/wiki/User:Pelf
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aaronpk
how is that even possible?
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tantek
well it says he has "nomadic lifestyle"
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tantek
looks like he installed Diaspora on his domain but didn't get much further: https://wwelves.org/
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tantek
aaronpk - btw did you get my error reports about the feed (e.g. splitting entries on ";" etc.) ?
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tantek
apparently yes - as the feed no longer does that :)
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aaronpk
hm I don't remember seeing that
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tantek
start here: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2012-07-04#t1341437030
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aaronpk
oh strange
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aaronpk
looks like it's in the logs too, not just the xml file
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tantek
anybody else here use WordPress on their primary self-identifying site?
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tantek
and specifically, anybody who came to IndieWebCamp 2012?
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tantek.com
edited /projects (+1245) "update a few attendees using vs. other independents using, add StatusNet section and Evan. note explicit subsorting by number of indiewebcamp users using" (view diff)
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tantek
next IndieWebCamp we should certainly do a survey of who is running what on their primary domain and then update the Projects page accordingly.
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tantek.com
edited /projects (+16) "/* explorations */ IndieMark, going to put down some ideas to start this off" (view diff)
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@haxor
@stoweboyd We think it's important for the #indieweb. Old news to you. Vast majority of people have no idea. This is part of the problem. ()
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tantek.com
created /IndieMark (+2098) "draft collection of ideas for a start" (view diff)
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@indiewebcamp
“@julien51: Yep. @kippt supports rel="me" links on profile pages! That's perfect =)” Great! cc: @microformats ()
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@brennannovak
Idea for baby shower gift: buy 18 yrs of registration for http://t.co/RlIzMIsu domain #IndieWeb ()
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@hitthat1976
もしもtさんとIndieWebCampの人生が映画化されたとしたら、タイトルは「世にも奇妙なttk.me t4Jm2」。興行収益は72億円です。【広末涼子生ボイス】 人生ずっと文字化け。たまに一行読めるのが更に怖い。 ()
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@t
added real-time most-recent-first search results via Google to tantek•com search box, no JS. #PuSH #indieweb #falcon (ttk.me t4Jn1) ()
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