#indiewebcamp 2012-07-07

2012-07-07 UTC
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@indiewebcamp
@julien51: Yep. @kippt supports rel="me" links on profile pages! That's perfect =)” Great! cc: @microformats
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@brennannovak
Idea for baby shower gift: buy 18 yrs of registration for http://t.co/RlIzMIsu domain #IndieWeb
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@hitthat1976
もしもtさんとIndieWebCampの人生が映画化されたとしたら、タイトルは「世にも奇妙なttk.me t4Jm2」。興行収益は72億円です。【広末涼子生ボイス】 人生ずっと文字化け。たまに一行読めるのが更に怖い。
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@t
added real-time most-recent-first search results via Google to tantek•com search box, no JS. #PuSH #indieweb #falcon (ttk.me t4Jn1)
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tantek.com
edited /IndieMark (+488) "/* idea capture */ possible levels acrosss a few areas"
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barnabywalters
hey aaronpk - can indieauth.com be used over https?
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barnabywalters
There's just a fedora test page up at https://indieauth.com/
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: I don't have an SSL cert for it yet, but I should go set that up
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barnabywalters
when I tried to connect over ssl it said certificate not valid for the domain — looks like it was a *.geoloqi.com cert?
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aaronpk
yea, I used to have the geoloqi site on that server
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aaronpk
SSL certs got cheap!
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: I have come across free ones before
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barnabywalters
StartSSL, I think, do a free one
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barnabywalters
been looking into them over the past couple of days as I don't really know anything about them
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xtof_fr
Hi aaronpk and indie pionniers. Currently trying to understand/translate your getting started on indieweb in French.
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xtof_fr
Just a noob in programmation and media-wiki install, any idea to implement IndieAuth-MediaWiki extension ? Any advice would be welcome : http://xtof.me/wiki/index.php?title=xtofwiki:Actualités#2012-07-07_IndieAuth-MediaWiki_Extension_-_Currently_searching_an_HowTo_.3F Have a nice weekend. Cheers and thanks for all.
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aaronpk
xtof_fr: I actually did implement an IndieAuth+MediaWiki extension for signing in to indiewebcamp.com: https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth-MediaWiki
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xtof_fr
Yes aaronpk that's exacty the extension i'm trying to install. Details step by step and 2 errors on the link above mentioned ;)
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xtof_fr
Really excited of this web-signing on indiewebcamp wiki..
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aaronpk
xtof_fr: the standard mediawiki extension install procedure is to put the files in the "extensions" directory, and add an "include" line to your config file
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xtof_fr
IndieAuth has been dropped in extensions/IndieAuth-MediaWiki/ directory
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xtof_fr
Added require_once('extensions/IndieAuth-MediaWiki/IndieAuth.php');
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xtof_fr
$wgAuth = new IndieAuth();
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xtof_fr
… to "LocalSettings.php" file
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aaronpk
it should be $wgAuth = new IndieAuthPlugin();
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xtof_fr
I did test that too and it gave me back the same error. Thanks for help. Don't mind aaronpk. Will try to find local help towards friends.
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aaronpk
what's the error you're getting?
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xtof_fr
Warning: require_once(AuthPlugin.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /homez.149/christoplj/www/wiki/extensions/IndieAuth-MediaWiki/IndieAuth.php on line 37
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xtof_fr
Fatal error: require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'AuthPlugin.php' (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php') in /homez.149/christoplj/www/wiki/extensions/IndieAuth-MediaWiki/IndieAuth.php on line 37
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aaronpk
ah strange, what version of mediawiki are you using? I believe I'm using 1.17
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xtof_fr
1.19
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aaronpk
try replacing the line require_once('AuthPlugin.php')
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aaronpk
with require_once("$IP/includes/AuthPlugin.php");
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xtof_fr
Fatal error: Class 'IndieAuth' not found in /homez.149/christoplj/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 51
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aaronpk
yea now change that back to $wgAuth = new IndieAuthPlugin()
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aaronpk
in your LocalSettings.php file
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xtof_fr
Fatal error: Class 'IndieAuth' not found in /homez.149/christoplj/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php on line 51
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xtof_fr
Should I rename IndieAuth.php in IndieAuthPlugin ?
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aaronpk
no, the filename doesn't matter
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aaronpk
are you sure your put $wgAuth = new IndieAuthPlugin()
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aaronpk
in LocalSettings and not $wgAuth = new IndieAuth();?
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aaronpk
oh, you still need require_once('extensions/IndieAuth-MediaWiki/IndieAuth.php');
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aaronpk
and then in the IndieAuth.php file, change the require_once line to require_once("$IP/includes/AuthPlugin.php");
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xtof_fr
it works yeah ;) currently testing the indie-auth…
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aaronpk
great!
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: Doesn't Loqi usually chime in when people are being exclamation-mark-ey?
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barnabywalters
Or is that when peopl say: Yay!
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Loqi
yay!
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barnabywalters
there we go :)
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xtof_fr
my own domain christopheducamp.com works on indiewebcamp.com
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xtof_fr
if you could test it with your domain name on http://xtof.me/wiki ?
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barnabywalters
xtof_fr: I'm on it
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barnabywalters
xtof_fr: Worked fine for me
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barnabywalters
I think, anyway… my french is not great
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xtof_fr
thx barnaby : Cool will test that later. I have to leave now. Thanks for all for your help and feedback.
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barnabywalters
oh dear, I tried again and indieauth.com gives me an Internal Server Error :(
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barnabywalters
so apparently it's not working
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barnabywalters
xtof_fr: Have a good evening!
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aaronpk
oh dear
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: I would give you more info, but there's not much more to give… this is the URI that gives me the error (sans oauth tokens):
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barnabywalters
it's not a one-off, either — happened again. I'm going to try logging into iwc.com to see if it happens there too
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barnabywalters
indieauth login works fine for me on iwc.com
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aaronpk
that's kind of strange... let me think about that
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aaronpk
can you do it one more time on his site?
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barnabywalters
uh… got a mysterious blank page now…
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barnabywalters
and now it worked, but I don't think I'm actually logged in…
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barnabywalters
very confused
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aaronpk
me too, some stuff isn't showing up in the logs
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barnabywalters
translating the french output, I seem to have not been logged in at all, however an ip address has appeared in the top right hand corner
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barnabywalters
pretty sure it's not my IP
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aaronpk
k well i'm going to restart this server so I can finish setting up SSL
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barnabywalters
sounds like a plan!
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aaronpk
I think it worked!
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aaronpk
can you try logging in to xtof's wiki again? I'm looking at the real logs now
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barnabywalters
I still get the fedora test page — I'll try logging in
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aaronpk
hm, might be DNS caching
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aaronpk
I can't load that page, heh
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barnabywalters
weird! errors on both ends
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barnabywalters
It's a 404 Not Found error for indieauth.com/auth?me=waterpigs etc etc
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barnabywalters
so I'm trying iwc.com
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aaronpk
yea it's probably your DNS hasn't caught up yet
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aaronpk
cause I had to change the IP address for indieauth.com
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aaronpk
if you flush your DNS, it might work
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barnabywalters
surely that wouldn't cause the Not Found error?
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barnabywalters
okay, never flushed a DNS before :) How do I do that?
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aaronpk
yea it probably would have ended up on some other site on that server which doesn't have an "/auth" page
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aaronpk
do you have a mac?
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aaronpk
try typing this in a terminal: dscacheutil -flushcache
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aaronpk
actually it might be this now: sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder
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barnabywalters
tried both *and* emptied the cache, but I still get the fedora test page for http/https indieauth :(
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barnabywalters
does it not sometimes take a while for changes to propagate through the network?
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aaronpk
yea, I tried to speed it up on my end, but could still be cached somewhere else out of our control
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barnabywalters
he says, feeling like a complete fool because he's heard it somewhere before but doesn't understand it
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barnabywalters
right, okay
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barnabywalters
well I'll leave it a few hours and try again. I'm assuming you've tried it and it works alright?
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aaronpk
yep, it's fine on my end!
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barnabywalters
heh - just like public.waterpigs.co.uk ;)
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: looks like DNS has finished propagating from here
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barnabywalters
okay, refreshing…
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aaronpk
can you type this on a terminal? dig indieauth.com
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aaronpk
you hsould see a line like ";
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aaronpk
SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)", can you tell me the IP address there?
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barnabywalters
208.67.222.222
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Loqi
!dns 208.67.222.222
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Loqi
resolver1.opendns.com
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aaronpk
ah thx
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barnabywalters
not come across dig before… interesting
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aaronpk
useful for debugging DNS!
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barnabywalters
so it seems! DNS has always been way over my head. I leave it to whoever it is I pay for hosting:)
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aaronpk
looks like it shoudl be working for you then!
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barnabywalters
all of a sudden… it is!
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aaronpk
great!
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barnabywalters
xtof_fr wiki signin still doesn't work but looks like it's a problem on his end, not indieauth.com
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barnabywalters
iwc… doesn't work. It goes through *lots* of redirects and I end up where I started
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barnabywalters
got screenshots of all but one of the redirects if they would help?
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aaronpk
ah me too now...
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aaronpk
fixed. I had to update the MW plugin to reference the new SSL endpoint
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aaronpk
not sure why the transparent redirect didn't nit that
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barnabywalters
iwc working for me now
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aaronpk
must have been curl not following the redirect
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barnabywalters
and it's reassuring that the pros debug things like this too ;)
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aaronpk
xtof_fr: I just pushed up a change to the MediaWiki plugin, can you download it and try it again?
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MaxCan007
Hi from Canada ;)
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aaronpk
hello!
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aaronparecki.com
edited /site-deaths (+95) "add link to google graveyard"
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tantek
aaronpk - wow that's a great find - Google Graveyard on Pinterest!
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Loqi
tantek has 2 karma
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aaronpk
I was amused
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: Did you get your ATOM feed subscribe-able by identica in the end?
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tantek.com
edited /site-deaths (+358) "incomplete list, please help by adding from these sources"
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aaronpk
no I didn't, I ended up stuck at an internal server error on identi.ca
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: That's where I ended up too. I could also never figure out exactly where they get the hcard info they display for remote feeds
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barnabywalters
if you look at tantek's, it shows a profile pic that I can't find anywhere on his website!
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tantek
barnabywalters - did you try mimicking my feed? I know it works on there: http://tantek.com/ (which then auto-discovers http://tantek.com/updates.atom )
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barnabywalters
tantek: I used your feed and meta hub tags as a template
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tantek
compare your Atom feed to my Atom feed as well
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tantek
I tried to make mine as minimal as I could, but still a valid Atom Activity Stream
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barnabywalters
mine is quite a bit different — for example, I use content type="html" and double-encode everything :(
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barnabywalters
I was using xhtml but mac mail RSS reader complains about some invalid xhtml (I'm using html5)
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tantek.com
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tantek
barnabywalters - I'm using HTML5 as well - it's just well-formed.
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tantek
It's not that hard to do / maintain.
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tantek
And enables use of more tools (e.g. PHP DOMDocument)
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barnabywalters
tantek: I like using short table syntax :(
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tantek
I'd say take the jump and use "xhtml" in your Atom feed
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barnabywalters
anyway, both feeds validate, the only difference from the validator is I have get some weird EOF error
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tantek
because Atom is XML anyway
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barnabywalters
"Invalid EOF in the middle of construct"
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tantek
EOF error likely means you're missing some close tags or something
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tantek
anyway, if you're having to generate valid Atom, generating well-formed HTML5 should be easy
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tantek
I'm on a low battery - so will have to follow-up later.
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tantek
Good luck!
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barnabywalters
I store articles as markdown+html, so a lot of the errors I was getting are down to that :|
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barnabywalters
okay, talk again later, thanks :)
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barnabywalters
I'm off to watch a film (a rare event, only happens two or three times a year). Bye!
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /site-deaths (+167) "/* Upcoming */ Added KLIK + Face.com API deaths"
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xtof_fr
just changed MediaWiki plugin. No fatal errors, but still unable to connect.
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xtof_fr
bonsoir aaronpk and thanks
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