#indiewebcamp 2013-02-25

2013-02-25 UTC
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@acarrabino
RT @t: Time to upgrade literacy. Introducing Mozilla Webmaker: http://t.co/x6R8a4Q5. video: http://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb (ttk.me t4J21)
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tommorris
windwo 15
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@CraigSJ
6.9 for Amok? Indieweb insurrection in 3... 2...
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@ryannichols7
#lowballed RT ”@CraigSJ 6.9 for Amok? Indieweb insurrection in 3... 2...
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@BarnabyWalters
Diaspora Export: Quickly generate a JSON file of all your public #diaspora posts #indieweb #ownyourcontent (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1000/)
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barnabywalters
^ my 1000th (or 1000th numbered, at least) post is a tool I made to liberate data stuck in a diaspora pod
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barnabywalters
turns out D*’s data export function does not include your posts :/
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barnabywalters
it includes post ids (not URLs), and the ids (again, no URLs) of contacts, but almost none of the data the user *actual
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barnabywalters
actually authored
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tommorris
heh. but it's decentralized! therefore all the problems go away! ;)
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Loqi
THEREFORE ALL THE PROBLEMS http://loqi.me/6aw
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tantek
oh dear that's too bad about D*
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tantek.com
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tantek
!tell barnabywalters could you add your export tool (and any other commentary, e.g. about D* export function limitations) to http://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora ? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi
barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 19 minutes ago: could you add your export tool (and any other commentary, e.g. about D* export function limitations) to http://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora ? Thanks!
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@BarnabyWalters
@laurakalbag no, no, no, the #indieweb web is the future :) Not any one silo. (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1001/)
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /Diaspora (+1154) "Bulked out page, added link to diaspora-export"
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@BarnabyWalters
.@laurakalbag “on your own space” is important but *not* a prerequisite of #indieweb. The domain name is the most… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1003/
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@sophiedennis
@BarnabyWalters I agree with @laurakalbag : the challenge for #indieweb is ease-of-use - that, not privacy/control, is how platforms win
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@BarnabyWalters
@sophiedennis one of the interesting things about #indiewebcamp is that there’s almost no discussion about privacy o… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1005/
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barnabywalters
argh. twitter is *really* not optimal for discussions
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aaronpk
no, no it's not
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barnabywalters
really, it’s just pub/sub/notification infrastructure
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aaronpk
this is actually a good use case for branch
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aaronpk
disregarding the non-indieweb aspects of it for a moment
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barnabywalters
yeah, branch’s UI and structure is great
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aaronpk
i feel like a lot of people use branch for quora-like discussions, which always feels awkward to me
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aaronpk
but for a converstaion that starts on twitter and needs a place to grow, that's a much better use
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barnabywalters
do they have an "import twitter conversation" feature, where you give them a tweet URL and they auto-invite all the participants and summarise what’s been said so far?
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aaronpk
haha that'd be awesome
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Loqi
rofl
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Loqi
INVITE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS http://loqi.me/6b1
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barnabywalters
seems like a no-brainer, if twitter => branch is happening
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barnabywalters
pave the cowpaths, and so forth
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aaronpk
let's see what happens
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aaronpk
aw man it tweeted out three tweets from me
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barnabywalters
did it not ask your permission
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aaronpk
well it must have asked to post when I first logged in to branch
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aaronpk
but that was a few months ago, and I haven't used it
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aaronpk
it didn't tell me it was going to tweet, it just said "we'll notify..."
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barnabywalters
when I was complaining to chrismessina about branch, they explicitly mentioned that it would *never* send tweets without asking
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aaronpk
well now there's a "tweet your response" checkbox in the thread
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barnabywalters
btw aaronpk, does your interest in quantified self stuff extend beyond your amazing location work?
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aaronpk
of course!
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barnabywalters
how about analysing your usage of iOS devices?
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barnabywalters
I’m working on some scripts to parse iOS diagnostic reports
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aaronpk
oh? that'd be interesting
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barnabywalters
giving access to all sorts of fun stuff like app activations, app activation time, background processing time
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aaronpk
i would love to hear what you find!
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barnabywalters
I’ll make the scripts public as soon as they’re more substantial
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barnabywalters
preview of their current status: http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/977/
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barnabywalters
goodnight all
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Loqi
sweet dreams
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tantek.com
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@silverton
#IdesOfFacebook #OwnYourData #OwnYourIdentity #FederatedWeb
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@laurakalbag
@bastianallgeier Bastian, meet @BarnabyWalters. I believe you two will get along, and share many #indieweb beliefs.
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waterpigs.co.uk
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tantek.com
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tommorris
oh god, XRD still exists?
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waterpigs.co.uk
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@sophiedennis
@BarnabyWalters yes, let's. Feels a very #digpen thing generally. Will put UK #indiewebcamp in dairy cc @laurakalbag
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tantek
hey indieweb folks, check out the text-selection UI on this article: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112485/aaron-swartz-profile-internet-will-never-save-you
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tantek
try selecting some text, and then note the little popup that shows up, # of chars selected, links for twitter, tumblr, facebook
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aaronpk
that's nice! it's missing a "permalink" option tho :)
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tantek
!tell barnabywalters you should in particular check out the text selection UI on this article: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112485/aaron-swartz-profile-internet-will-never-save-you - what would be a good "webactions" solution, as well as what would an "indieweb" link/button look like?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek
aaronpk - yeah, whatever happened to "blog this"
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tommorris
I'm hoping this is something the browser can fix.
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tommorris
all these share this things are really crappy. about every 3-4 weeks at wikipedia we have to explain to someone why we don't have tweet this/facebook this/whatever links all over the site
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tommorris
which basically boils down to [because NASCAR problem, because most of them are tracking-cookie-infested and we give a shit about your privacy]
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tantek
tommorris - and ironic that Wikipedia deleted our article on the NASCAR problem right
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tommorris
well, yes, we do take the GNG quite seriously.
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tommorris
General Notability Guidelines. http://enwp.org/WP:GNG
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tommorris
it's what most deletion debates revolve around. I can pretty much recite it in my sleep at this point. ;)
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