#indiewebcamp 2013-05-02

2013-05-02 UTC
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pdurbin looks at http://indiewebcamp.com/p3k
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pdurbin reminds me a bit of http://ikiwiki.info
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pdurbin (which I love)
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pdurbin my notes on ikiwiki: http://wiki.greptilian.com/ikiwiki
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@gglplay ><
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@LouisDuverger #event : 2013/Guest List http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Guest_List
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cweiske is there a php library that fetches HTML of remote comment that I can show on my page?
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tommorris cweiske: not yet, but given that barnaby has written a PHP µf2 parser, shouldn't be too hard. ;)
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cweiske please don't tell me it's not too hard
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cweiske I am a developer myself, and I know how hard it is to get things implemented correctly with all the edge cases
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tommorris this is true.
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pdurbin cweiske: I know of screen scraping libraries in perl and python. (HTML::Tree and beautifulsoup, respectively.) I assume PHP has them too
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pdurbin aaronpk: I'm new here and all but personally, I find the updates from Loqi distracting and not especially interesting. just my two cents. I'll probably see if I can simply /ignore Loqi
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cweiske I don't want a screen scraper
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cweiske basically one that implements the display-comments process in the wiki
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pdurbin display-comments?
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cweiske http://indiewebcamp.com/comments-presentation
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tommorris pdurbin: the wiki edit notification is useful, but the tweet notification can be a bit spammy
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pdurbin tommorris: I'm just ignoring everything from Loqi now. much happier ;)
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pdurbin cweiske: thanks
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tommorris goes and writes mean things on the wiki about pdurbin safe in the knowledge that he won't see them. ;)
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pdurbin heh
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pdurbin maybe people are writing mean things about me all over the place. I hope not
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aaronpk pdurbin: sorry some of the tweets get spammy, but that's how I read twitter, I never actually go to twitter.com anymore
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aaronpk unlikely to remove that feature from Loqi. your solution of just ignoring him is probably the best
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Loqi woot!
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aaronpk although you will also miss out on Loqi's sarcastic sense of humor
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pdurbin cries
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cweiske i'm also ignoring him
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pdurbin aaronpk: you could have Loqi /msg you instead ;)
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tantek pdurbin I find the wiki updates useful to see what people are actually working on / developing
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tantek wiki + IRC notifications is cheap way to encourage serendipitous realtime collaboration
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pdurbin I can't read French :)
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tantek oh right, xtof's amazing translations :)
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tantek just point your French friends at them!
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pdurbin don't get me wrong. I may send commits from https://github.com/iqss/dvn to http://irclog.iq.harvard.edu/dvn/today ... that kind of information is interesting to me in #dvn
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pdurbin again, I'm new here. for now I'll just keep ignoring Loqi. lowers my blood pressure
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Loqi dude
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tantek LOL - Loqi just responded to you pdurbin
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EdwardHinkle lol that was awesome
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EdwardHinkle poor Loqi's feelings are probably hurt
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pdurbin looks at http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-05-02#t1367520270
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pdurbin heh
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pdurbin still not worth it
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tantek it's Loqi's intermittent humor reinforcement that ironically makes it quite worth it :)
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aaronpk tantek++ nailed it
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Loqi tantek has 11 karma
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tantek !tell barnabywalters nice comment microformat brainstorm. I riffed on it a bit, simplified (I think), and added details re: other comment properties: http://microformats.org/wiki/comment-brainstorming#microformats2_p-comment_h-entry
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek eschnou: since you're already publishing comments received via webmentions, I definitely want to know what you think of this brainstorm for how to mark them up: http://microformats.org/wiki/comment-brainstorming#microformats2_p-comment_h-entry
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EdwardHinkle oh wow! Loqi is gonna give him a message for you? Now THAT is cool
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tantek yes - that's the thing, if you ignore Loqi, you'll miss any messages anyone has left for you
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tantek and with that it's time for a mid-day run
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eschnou !tell tantek looks good to me, happy to attempt to implement it. Only weird thing is this empty a link with a reference to the same page for the reply-to url. I don't see the use case where it is necessary, can you elaborate ? Cheers.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@sirajdeen2000 RT @t: The First Federated #Indieweb Comment Thread: http://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread
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bret lol http://www.branded3.com/blogs/the-antisocial-network-path-texts-my-entire-phonebook-at-6am/
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Loqi tantek: eschnou left you a message 1 hour, 44 minutes ago: looks good to me, happy to attempt to implement it. Only weird thing is this empty a link with a reference to the same page for the reply-to url. I don't see the use case where it is necessary, can you elaborate ? Cheers.
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tantek !tell eschnou - great to hear it. thanks for evaluating the comments markup brainstorming. use-case for the same page u-in-reply-to is applications/sites that may subscribe to the comments as a feed, perhaps mix them in with other comments/entries. keeps the context.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell eschnou the same page in-reply-to url is not critical, but I think it is a simple/good pattern to help encourage extracted data to be self-contained in general.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek Thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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tantek !tell eschnou decided to write-up your Q&A - let me know if this covers it: http://microformats.org/wiki/comment-brainstorming#Use_case_for_same_page_u-in-reply-to
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 4 hours, 11 minutes ago: nice comment microformat brainstorm. I riffed on it a bit, simplified (I think), and added details re: other comment properties: http://microformats.org/wiki/comment-brainstorming#microformats2_p-comment_h-entry
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barnabywalters tantek: that is better than h-feed p-comments, lets use that
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tantek barnaby, glad to hear - thanks for kicking off the microformats2 comment brainstorming - helped to have a starting point :)
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fmarier hi everyone, tantek told me I should introduce myself here given my interested in the federated web and the fact that I'll be attending indiewebcamp this year.
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fmarier I am Francois Marier, by day I work on Persona (federated login system) at Mozilla, and by night I work on Libravatar (federated replacement for Gravatar)