#indiewebcamp 2013-09-12

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caseorganic.com edited /event-notes (+474) "/* Notes */ Brief notes" (view diff)
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caseorganic looking for the page with Level 0, 1, 2, etc
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tantek caseorganic - indiemark
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caseorganic tantek: thx
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark
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tantek needs to incorporate edits from the discussion
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caseorganic tantek: yes
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caseorganic tantek: it was perfect to have this discussion early on, as it set the roadmap for where people currently where and where they wanted to go, as well as educated newer attendees
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tantek sort of
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tantek it was good to get feedback
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tantek there wasn't any roadmap setting really in the discussion
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tantek the roadmap is based on what people have implemented and shipped
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caseorganic tantek: yes
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tantek that's what I've been basing it on
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tantek and why I was fairly confident in it :)
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tantek (levels based on actual organic emergent behavior)
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caseorganic tantek: got it
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tantek *collective behavior
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tantek the feedback/painpoints were good to hear about
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tantek it will help me refine the levels
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tantek and provide smaller incremental steps to help people achieve small things quicker
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tantek better gamification etc.
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tantek caseorganic - once I've got the levels updated, we're going to need some fancy graphics/badges for all of them and their components
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caseorganic tantek: and a chart for easy comprehension
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tantek we need some games graphics people (the folks who design such visuals in video games) to help out!
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caseorganic tantek: i would default to star trek pips
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tantek I'm thinking more World of Warcraft quest achievements
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caseorganic tantek: haha
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caseorganic world of indieweb
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tantek hey - it's been shown to "work"
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tantek yes!
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caseorganic tantek: i was thinking of getting the pips as a tattoo
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tantek "Congratulations! You've unlocked Level 3 reply contexts!"
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tantek caseorganic - ST pips?
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caseorganic tantek: too modern
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tantek I have a couple of friends who have done that
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tantek when they were dating
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caseorganic tantek: yep - the only thing i can think of
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caseorganic tantek: oh yeah? nice
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tantek caseorganic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39039882@N00/2988441085
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milk anyone know of an rss web reader that could somehow push article favourites to be published as a link in an activity stream?
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tantek milk - none AFAIK. readers need to be rethought as just a feature of an indieweb site that also publishes
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neuro` Good morning.
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@ipedrazas Not sure if @NarratoApp fits well with @aral ‘s indiedata concept (twitter.com/_/status/378037203785777152)
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@sandeepshetty lol #indieweb RT @anildash: @al3x no, it's "open" like the sign on a diner. It means you can c'mon in. (twitter.com/_/status/378049653180092416)
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glennjones.net edited /2013/UK (-18) "Updated my photo link" (view diff)
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tantek gjones - nice to see you shifting off the wp-* links/paths
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tantek may I ask that you use a smaller image? 128x128?
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tantek the 210x210 image that you have there now is blowing out the table
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neuro` Hello
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gjones slowly getting there - building a blog engine from zero is always a bigger job than you think - noted image size issue, trying to fix the file uploading to add a different image size at the moment : )
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neuro` gjones: what are you developping your blog engine with?
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gjones Building it in node.js
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gjones tantek you still around brighton, if so any chance of going over microformats 2 parser changes before I make them
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tantek gjones I am in Paris and returning to Brighton late Friday night.
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tantek I am in Brighton Saturday and Sunday
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tantek let's resolve the parser issues together
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gjones could do a coffee Sat/Sun if you have time
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tantek gjones - that would be great!
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tantek can you pick a nice cafe near downtown that is good for working with laptops (has wifi) ?
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@aral Working on my new talk on avoiding Digital Feudalism by making Experience-driven Open (#xo) products to realise the goals of #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/378095962650316800)
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@aral (In case you’re wondering, a whole bunch of time, thought and planning goes into these talks.) :) #indiedata #xo https://twitter.com/aral/status/378096321523376128/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/378096321523376128)
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gjones tantek Taylor Street has best wifi, its small and busy at weekends but should be OK if we get a table - Sat 10:45
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tantek gjones - that sounds good to me
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tantek want to add it to the Events page? http://microformats.org/wiki/events#upcoming
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Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 9/11 at 2:48pm: excellent! nicely done with the improved original-post-discovery code and service!
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@mindnode RT @aral: (In case you’re wondering, a whole bunch of time, thought and planning goes into these talks.) :) #indiedata #xo http://t.co/0EG… (twitter.com/_/status/378139796159627264)
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ShaneHudson Has anybody yet done POSSE and/or web mentions with a flat file cms? I'm making my own and not sure whether to make it hybrid, with a database, or not
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cweiske I always wonder what people think they are gaining when using flat files and not a database
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ShaneHudson cweiske: I don't have a problem with databases but quite like the way it works, plus I know database corrupting won't lose content etc
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ShaneHudson My cms wasn't originally going to be flat, but ended up that way once I got into the details of planning
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pfenwick How to get rick-rolled (multiple times) in one easy step: Tell the world that tweeting to you with a #todo tag will add that tweet to your todo list automatically.
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ShaneHudson hah!
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hober ShaneHudson: nice to meet you the other day (in Paris)!
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ShaneHudson hober: Likewise!
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pdurbin tantek: is http://www.hotelwhitcomb.com anywhere near you in SF?
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tantek not really, but that's a very convenient central location. right by lots of transit options, and the twitter offices too
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tantek ShaneHudson, Falcon is a flat file CMS that does POSSE including POSSE threaded replies.
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ShaneHudson tantek: How do you do it? Just have a file for each note/tweet?
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pdurbin tantek: ok. I'm still open to a meetup or whatever. I'm in SF Sep 22 – 29
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tantek ShaneHudson one file per bim. See http://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon#Storage_format for details. :)
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ShaneHudson Ah brilliant, thanks :) My CMS is coming along quite nicely. Started writing it on the Eurostar
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tantek sweet!
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tantek let me know if any of the ideas in Falcon's flat file storage help
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tantek I spent a lot of time on the flat file storage format, time block sharding, URLs etc.
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tantek I've been using the storage format it for 3+ years with very minimal changes and evolutionary additions (e.g. in-reply-to stuff)
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tantek hey adactio - you're here!
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adactio hey, hey!
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adactio tantek: I take it you are in Paris?
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tantek I am!
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tantek looking forward to returning tomorrow night
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barnabywalters afternoon adactio, tantek, ShaneHudson
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neuro` tantek: how's it going?
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tantek Glenn has arranged a microformats parser coffee meetup Saturday morning
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adactio Oh, excellent!
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tantek adactio, since you were looking at adding microformats parsing support, might be interesting for you too
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tantek as a client of parsing library(ies)
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adactio I'm itching to get hold of a good parser (with no dependencies) to take my webmentions to the next logical step.
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tantek we'll be resolving a bunch of encoding/escaping issues (the only remaining outstanding issues)
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barnabywalters adactio: php-mf2 will have no dependencies in a couple of days
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tantek and it would certainly be useful to get a purely client-use perspective
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adactio barnabywalters: Brilliant!!
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tantek (make sure we're not missing something in our issue resolution, as it will impact that parsers return to folks using them)
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tantek barnabywalters see the event on http://microformats.org/wiki/events#upcoming
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ShaneHudson tantek: Yeah that is definitely a lot more thorough than I had thought through, so will probably implement similar :)
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ShaneHudson Yeah I too am on the waiting list for php-mf2 without dependencies ;)
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tantek good to know
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barnabywalters I’ve just learnt that lack of a good relative URL resolving technique plagues javascript as well — apparently this is a widespread issue :/
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tantek adactio, assuming we can getup and get to Taylor St by 10:45 on Saturday morning, we should be good to go.
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barnabywalters I just pushed the first sort-of working version of Weave: https://github.com/barnabywalters/weave
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tantek very cool
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barnabywalters it mods twitter.com, detects which notes are POSSEd copies of content you own on your own domain, pulls the original in and corrects permalinks and such things
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tantek how many indieweb folks' POSSE copies does it work with?
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barnabywalters it works for aaronpk and my own notes, not for tantek’s yet because of the extra complexity and large quantities of extra HTTP requests required
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barnabywalters that’ll be in v2 :)
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barnabywalters should work in Firefox, Safari, Opera and Chrome, so give it a go and let me know what you think
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tantek barnabywalters - what large quantity of http requests required?
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barnabywalters to install: download https://github.com/barnabywalters/weave/archive/master.zip then look inside /output for the relevant file
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tantek that shouldn't be so - if it is, explain it to me and I'll use it to improve the algorithm accordingly
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aaronpk adactio: barnabywalters: i've been making progress on the php-mf2 parser, but holy crap is url resolving more complicated than I thought
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barnabywalters aaronpk: tell me about it :/
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aaronpk so far I've got two separate attempts, one where I just made stuff up, and one where I am attempting to implement the pseudocode in the RFC
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@aral Coming to the sad realisation that UK is basically as bad as US (if not worse in some ways). Which sucks ’cos I love Brighton. #indiedata (twitter.com/_/status/378170507113541632)
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tantek aaronpk - I hesitate to ask - which RFC? ;)
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barnabywalters tantek: I have to request each trailing URL in tweets, which I’m doing at the moment. In your case I also have to resolve all the rel-syndication URLs on the potential POSSE to see what they redirect to
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tantek aaronpk - I'd say use the URL Specification instead
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aaronpk tantek: heh http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-5.2
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barnabywalters not a fault of yours or the algorithm as such, just the whole http != https thing
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aaronpk "Uniform Resource Identifier (URI): Generic Syntax"
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tantek aaronpk - this is better: http://url.spec.whatwg.org/
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aaronpk oh good lord
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tantek it actually documents better what browsers do
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tantek rather than the wishful thinking of an RFC
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barnabywalters if the webignition url library is okay, why not just copy+paste their URL resolving code? the dependency problem they have is nothing to do with URL resolving
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tantek barnabywalters ok I can see how that might be a problem
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barnabywalters they require the intl extension to easily handle IRIs
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aaronpk barnabywalters: a few of the tests in the webignition code seemed wrong
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barnabywalters tantek: it’s fine for my original post discovery endpoint because I’m caching the results, but for browser-side code it’s going to be making a *lot* of requests
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tantek barnabywalters - yes, it's a real issue. it's not reasonable to have to follow all the rel-syndication links to look for redirects
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barnabywalters aaronpk: okay then, let’s all ditch PHP and use Go. they already wrote the function ;)
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tantek *however* what if we filtered by domain when looking for URLs to resolve to try for redirect matches?
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tantek that would handle both the http/https case
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aaronpk barnabywalters: lol. actually where is that code? maybe I can copy that algorithm
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tantek and the "service x changed all their permalinks but left redirects in place" case
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aaronpk wait no i've almost got this. i'm just going to keep going
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ShaneHudson aaronpk: Just wondering, which activity monitor wristband thing did you prefer?
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barnabywalters aaronpk: having said that I don’t know if their version passes all the tests! But I’ll try to find it
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tantek (both of which are real world scenarios that occur)
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Loqi PASSES ALL THE TESTS http://loqi.me/7vd
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barnabywalters tantek: filtered by domain? when?
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barnabywalters when looking for URLs to resolve?
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tantek yes
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tantek so you have URL (a) in your hand which you're looking for in the "original" post
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barnabywalters well, that would cut down on the number of requests — still doubles though
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tantek so presumably you're already iterating through all the rel="syndication" links
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aaronpk ShaneHudson: Jawbone is my favorite. i've also got a bit of a writeup here http://aaron.pk/a4Lg1
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tantek barnabywalters - no it doesn't double - it just adds *1* more request
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ShaneHudson aaronpk: Ah excellent thanks
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tantek (in usual cases)
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aaronpk i need to make an updated version of that post now though since i've been using a few more devices since I last wrote it
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tantek and I think that one request is worth allowing / adapting to the reality that URLs move
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barnabywalters in the case of Weave, one extra request per tweet per pageview. but still probably an acceptable compromise
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barnabywalters that is also the worst case scenario as we can always statically check the syndication URLs for a match before resolving any
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /original-post-discovery (+81) "/* Algorithm */ added filtering of rel-syndication by domain" (view diff)
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barnabywalters tantek: ^^
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barnabywalters I added it to the algorithm
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barnabywalters made it optional so if you want to make loads of requests it’s still fine
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tantek let's not make it optional
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tantek let's make it required
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tantek so that we encourage more strictly interop implementations
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tantek plus we have specific use-cases that we are addressing with the "by domain filtering"
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barnabywalters fair enough
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /original-post-discovery (-35) "/* Algorithm */ no longer optional" (view diff)
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tantek barnabywalters I'm rewriting the algorithm summary to hopefully make it clearer
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barnabywalters tantek: thanks
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tantek and for better / more precise readability / terminology
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barnabywalters yeah, it’s easy to start getting all the various URLs involved mixed up
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Loqi GETT ALL THE VARIOUS http://loqi.me/7ve
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barnabywalters er, thanks Loqi
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Loqi you're welcome
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tantek.com edited /original-post-discovery (+453) "/* Algorithm */ check syndication URLs one at a time and stop when match is found, add more detail to the algorithm and nesting of steps too" (view diff)
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tantek barnabywalters ok I used a specific name for each
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tantek hopefully self-explanatory
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tantek please review
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barnabywalters tantek: looks good, might benefit from added separation between candidate URL discovery and validation process. I might write a pseudocode version
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barnabywalters got to go dig up potatoes now
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barnabywalters maybe bold/colour the term “candidate URL” and “syndication URL” to make the shape of the algorithm more obvious
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aaronpk holy hell. all the pieces work individually but not when they're together.
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aaronpk i get stuck in an infinite loop!
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tantek barnabywalters - bolding the terms is a good suggestion
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ShaneHudson aaronpk: Hopefully that means you're very close!
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tantek.com edited /original-post-discovery (+1228) "add Algorithm Notes and Use-cases used to design/add the "syndication URL has the same domain as the POSSE permalink" steps" (view diff)
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aaronpk so close
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ShaneHudson I just read the bit about POSSE for Chess.. has this been done yet?
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tantek ShaneHudson, nevermind POSSE, no indieweb community member is even posting chess moves as posts on their own site yet.
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aaronpk holy crap i got it
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tantek :)
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tantek can we convert it to CASSIS? ;)
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aaronpk actually probably yes
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aaronpk it's mostly just substr and strpos functions
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tantek exactly
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aaronpk i tried to make it as simple as possible
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tantek now just use strcat
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tantek and you're all set
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aaronpk without using classes and regexes and such
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tantek great
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ShaneHudson tantek: Heh makes sense if there is no one to play with! Great idea though :)
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ShaneHudson I've always been careful to avoid posting about chess though... once upon a time someone called Shane Hudson was a programmer/chess player/scammer. It took a lot to knock him off of google lol
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tantek.com edited /original-post-discovery (+140) "bold terms in algorithm (and make them consistent) to make them easier to follow (almost like variables / parameters!)" (view diff)
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aaronpk ShaneHudson: that's awesome lol
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ShaneHudson aaronpk: Nice one :)
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tantek barnabywalters ^^^ bold/colour the terms done
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tantek brb
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aaronpk if anyone wants to play with it, here it is: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/tree/resolve-relative-url
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aaronpk run tests with `phpunit.phar tests/mf2/URLTest.php`
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aaronpk would appreciate help validating that all these tests are accurate: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/blob/resolve-relative-url/tests/mf2/URLTest.php#L141
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bnvk Met some guy from Harvard's Berkman Internet & Society who has some open social / decentralized project yesterday http://idcubed.org I told him about IndieWeb and was showing him demos
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aaronpk as in, i'm not sure if the tests are actually correct
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aaronpk that's all i have time for for now
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aaronpk barnabywalters: take a look if you wish!
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bnvk the Harvard guy was definitely a victim of believing in monoculture
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aaronpk only 6 failing tests. looks like it's missing logic for handling user:pass in the URL, and doesn't handle adding a '/' to naked domains
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aaronpk *whew*
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ShaneHudson http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dancing-banana
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@ZombieHuntersRT RT @EbookPrincess: @ouazaseries Episode 2 @Jennichad217 #newrelease @zombieheadlines #Zombie #Apocalypse #thewalkingdead #OUAZA #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/378188117871976448)
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ShaneHudson smus: Your connection is dreadful!
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smus odd. my computer was supposedly sleeping all night
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ShaneHudson Keeps logging in and out lol
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barnabywalters aaronpk: all the tests passing? awesome. I will spend this evening trying to break it, the fix/merge as necessary
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barnabywalters s/the/then
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Loqi barnabywalters meant to say: aaronpk: all then tests passing? awesome. I will spend this evening trying to break it, then fix/merge as necessary
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ShaneHudson Don't suppose any of you know webrtc inside out? I've got a strange problem with FF<->Chrome
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ShaneHudson Well, strange in that it doesn't work and I see no reason why not!
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barnabywalters aaronpk: looks like it’s working well enough to merge at the moment — user+pass URLs are not a big deal
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aaronpk barnabywalters: *almost* all tests passing
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aaronpk there's something wrong with resolving base "http://example.com" path "http://example.com/" to "http://example.com/"
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tommorris barnabywalters: you going on Saturday to Brighton for the chit-chat about microformats2 parsers? ;)
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barnabywalters aaronpk: from what I can see of the test results, the failing tests aren’t a huge deal. I can’t see any which are in common use which are deal-breaking
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aaronpk ok cool!
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aaronpk should be a pretty easy fix too when I can look at it again
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barnabywalters tommorris: I wish I could — I’ll still be down in sunny devon on Saturday, playing music with people
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aaronpk actually hold on give me a minute more
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tommorris might sneak down for that although he's not made progress on his uf2 parser given both holiday and work
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barnabywalters if someone’s up for hangout or IRC I might be able to make some of it
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barnabywalters otherwise, follow up afterwards
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aaronpk barnabywalters: how do you run a specific test with phpunit?
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barnabywalters there are two things which need doing for php-mf2 v1.0.0 — making the URL resolving work, which aaronpk seems to have a handle on, and making consistently escaped output the default (only) behaviour
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barnabywalters aaronpk: with -f testThingWhichNeedsTesting
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aaronpk thx
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barnabywalters that is the downside of dynamic test generators — it’s tricky to just run one of the inputs
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aaronpk yea i'm pulling out a couple into a separate test function
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aaronpk barnabywalters: aaalmost got it
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aaronpk woo now only the user/pass ones are failing
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tantek bnvk - good thing we're documenting anti-patterns like monoculture
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tantek it's a fairly common trap people fall into
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tantek did you ask the selfdogfood questions?
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aaronpk question... are http://user@example.com/ and http://user:@example.com/ and http://:pass@example.com/ all valid URIs?
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aaronpk barnabywalters: ok pushed that up
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aaronpk only one failing test now, but I think the test might be wrong
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barnabywalters meh. anyone publishing user@domain URLs is weird. merging.
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barnabywalters awesome work, thank you so much!
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aaronpk yeah! woo
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aaronpk I should probably package that up as its own composer library
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barnabywalters aaronpk: absolutely. want to do a functional URL-focused lib? there are a bunch of smaller things I’ve implemented which need a better home
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aaronpk sure, like what other things?
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barnabywalters living in BarnabyWalters\Helpers at the moment, which is a silly package
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barnabywalters mainly shortcuts for getting the domain, path etc out of URLs
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barnabywalters instead of having to do parse_url($url, PHP_URL_HOSTNAME)
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aaronpk is it just a wrapper around that?
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barnabywalters pretty much, yes
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barnabywalters but for each component
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barnabywalters or were you going to implement it as part of cassis?
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tantek nicely done aaronpk
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tantek yes let's convert it from the ground up to cassis
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aaronpk I just realized I have a dependency on php's parse_url function, is there a cassis function for that?
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tantek I should write that
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tantek well, as much as I can convert to CASSIS I want to
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barnabywalters it can be emulated by creating a HTMLAnchorElement
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tantek ok off to dinner
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barnabywalters me too :)
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tantek barnabywalters - eww
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tantek sounds like a hack
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barnabywalters tantek: more hacky than a bunch of regexs? ;)
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aaronpk if there's a cassis parse_url function that mimic's the php version then it should be pretty easy to convert
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tantek aaronpk - feel free to open a feature issue request on cassis
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barnabywalters I’d rather trust the browser
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aaronpk tantek: will do :)
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barnabywalters but I might be being naieve
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tantek yeah that's usually what I do - create a JS version that mimics an existing PHP function
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tantek thanks
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bnvk tantek: yah, I find the anti-pattern concept really useful. This fellow definitely does not "dogfood" he wants to create a shiny, polished, beautiful, and widely used product- immediately, heh!
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barnabywalters tantek: if I wrote a test suite for cassis, would you use it? if I’m going to start adding stuff I want to be testing it
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tantek I do have private test code I should upload
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tantek ok ttyl!
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aaronpk barnabywalters: note that I didn't touch the actual mf2 parser code in that branch, so it's not actually using the new resolver yet
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@mrmzholland @MrSimonWood me too. definitely worth a go i think. i'm really interested in all that indieweb stuff (though the tech talk is beyond me) (twitter.com/_/status/378220932478672896)
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barnabywalters !tell tantek your homepage feed permalink URL mf are parsing strangely, did you change it recently? Looks like you have class=value on children of the .u-url element, and I’m applying value-class pattern to everything, not just datetimes. Pretty sure what I’m doing is spec compliant, do we need to change anything?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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barnabywalters aaronpk: okay, php-mf2 v0.1.21 has NO DEPENDENCIES YAY thanks to you. It seems to work fine, I’ve deployed it. when can we expect to see pin13 pick it up?
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Loqi :D
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bret how do people here do the google authorship? by email? html?
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bret choose to do the*
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Loqi tantek: barnabywalters left you a message 5 minutes ago: your homepage feed permalink URL mf are parsing strangely, did you change it recently? Looks like you have class=value on children of the .u-url element, and I’m applying value-class pattern to everything, not just datetimes. Pretty sure what I’m doing is spec compliant, do we need to change anything?
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barnabywalters good evening caseorganic
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caseorganic barnabywalters: hello!
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caseorganic barnabywalters: are you back in iceland now?
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barnabywalters nope, in Devon with my family at the mo
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bret Anyone recommend a free way to receive email on my own domain?
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caseorga_ bret: i used to use squirrelmail
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caseorga_ bret: http://squirrelmail.org/wiki/SquirrelMailGPL
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bret I'm looking for more of a hosted solution,
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bret like google apps, when it was free
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caseorganic.com edited /why (+253) "Added example of Facebook page shutdown" (view diff)
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barnabywalters that reminds me, there was a browser extension FB tried to shut down because it scared them
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barnabywalters http://www.fbpurity.com/
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caseorganic.com edited /why (+42) "/* Why Indie Web Camp community? */ Added link to Getting Started" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /why (+117) "/* Why Indie Web */ added fbpurity citation" (view diff)
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caseorga_ barnabywalters: do you have a link?
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barnabywalters caseorga_: to the browser extension? just added it
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caseorga_ barnabywalters: thanks!
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barnabywalters want to scare a silo? make a browser extension!
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caseorga_ barnabywalters: wow - that makes sense
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caseorga_ barnabywalters: ha!
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barnabywalters wow, there’s a scary number of citations on /why
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@jontangerine In web design, the indie web – http://indiewebcamp.com/ — is the idea that inspires me the most, so I’m starting with my own site. News soon. (twitter.com/_/status/378235571581120512)
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@BarnabyWalters .@adactio @shanehudson @indiewebcamp et al: php-mf2 is now dependencyless, go forth and build stuff with… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4S0KGt/ (twitter.com/_/status/378235789022605312)
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@IndieWebCampUK RT @BarnabyWalters: .@adactio @shanehudson @indiewebcamp et al: php-mf2 is now dependencyless, go forth and build stuff with… http://t.co/j… (twitter.com/_/status/378235879019806720)
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@ShaneHudson RT @BarnabyWalters: .@adactio @shanehudson @indiewebcamp et al: php-mf2 is now dependencyless, go forth and build stuff with… http://t.co/j… (twitter.com/_/status/378235905993342976)
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barnabywalters can anyone remember who else wanted to use php-mf3 but was put off by the dependency?
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ShaneHudson barnabywalters: Thanks :)
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barnabywalters ShaneHudson: please direct all thanks to aaronpk, he wrote the tricky code :)
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ShaneHudson Heh yeah, well done aaronpk!
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barnabywalters I just removed the old stuff and stuck a new version number on ;)
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@BarnabyWalters Want to scare a silo? Make a browser extension. Then, maybe get banned for your trouble :/ #indieweb (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4S0KL2/) (twitter.com/_/status/378236582069043201)
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barnabywalters goodnight all
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Loqi see you in the morning!
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@carenisreading ✌ Reading "IndieWebCamp" http://ing.am/p/2xKh (twitter.com/_/status/378238554033627137)
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aaronpk !tell barnabywalters superthanks for finishing php-mf2!! pin13.net is updated with it now!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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aaronpk ahh the output is so much nicer now!
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aaronpk i'm tempted to make a ruby version of the relative url resolver now too
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dpk aaronpk: there's already one of those in Ruby's stdlib
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aaronpk oh??
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dpk http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib-1.9.3/libdoc/uri/rdoc/URI.html#method-c-join
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aaronpk oh thank goodness
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aaronpk heh I should run that against my test suite to see if they agree
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aaronpk i can already tell, they don't
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aaronpk but it's an edge case
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dpk there's also urllib.parse.urljoin in Python 3, which was probably called urllib2.urljoin or something in Python 2
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dpk is your test suite on GitHub? might be interesting to compare all three
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aaronpk cool, it only fails when the base URI doesn't end in a slash
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aaronpk I replaced my php function with return trim(shell_exec("ruby -e \"require 'uri'
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aaronpk puts URI.join '$baseURI', '$referenceURI'\""))
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aaronpk and ran all the tests
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aaronpk dpk: tests are here: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/blob/master/tests/mf2/URLTest.php
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@Jennichad217 RT @EbookPrincess: @ouazaseries Episode 2 @Jennichad217 #newrelease @zombieheadlines #Zombie #Apocalypse #thewalkingdead #OUAZA #IndieAuth… (twitter.com/_/status/378253168011780096)
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@clochix @nhoizey il faudrait aussi regarder du côté d'IndieWeb mais je ne crois pas qu'ils aient de truc pour sites statiques http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK/Demos (twitter.com/_/status/378272042543366144)
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@adactio @BarnabyWalters @ShaneHudson @indiewebcamp W00t! (twitter.com/_/status/378272492491513857)
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@obra I wonder if the risks section of twitter's S-1 filing includes the danger of the federated social indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/378281013182332929)
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@sodrupal @hedley_smith @aral @drupal @indiewebcamp you might like this module to copy your fb albums to ur #indiedata website https://drupal.org/project/facebook_album_fetcher (twitter.com/_/status/378283467764555776)
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@julien51 RT @obra: I wonder if the risks section of twitter's S-1 filing includes the danger of the federated social indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/378283613915467776)
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@jeffrafter RT @obra: I wonder if the risks section of twitter's S-1 filing includes the danger of the federated social indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/378283855146283008)
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@tilgovi RT @obra: I wonder if the risks section of twitter's S-1 filing includes the danger of the federated social indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/378284879814742017)
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@veganstraightedge RT @obra: I wonder if the risks section of twitter's S-1 filing includes the danger of the federated social indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/378287619961925633)
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