#indiewebcamp 2013-09-22

2013-09-22 UTC
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@benwerd
Some of us indieweb folks are meeting for breakfast before #xoxofest tomorrow, just up the street: http://aaronparecki.com/events/2013/09/22/1/indiewebcamp-breakfast
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@kevinmarks
RT @benwerd: Some of us indieweb folks are meeting for breakfast before #xoxofest tomorrow, just up the street: http://aaronparecki.com/events/2013/09/22/1/indiewebcamp-breakfast
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@aaronpk
#xoxofest If you're up early today, a few of us #indiewebcamp folk are meeting for breakfast this morning! Details: http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2013/09/22/1/indiewebcamp-xoxofest
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@benwerd
RT @aaronpk: #xoxofest If you're up early today, a few of us #indiewebcamp folk are meeting for breakfast this morning! Details: http://t.c…
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aaronparecki.com
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@idleglory
RT @pkbot: Posted a photo: #indieweb breakfast at #xoxofest 5/8 people RSVP'd from their own sites! http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/9877710396/ [Flickr]
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RT @xtof_fr: #datareputation #indieweb #datacontrol (at @LaCantine par Silicon Sentier w/ @nicolas2fr @khenthusiasm) [pic]: http://t.co/caQ…
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: just reading /micropub
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barnabywalters
are the prefixes actually useful to include? they’re left out of the parsed representation
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barnabywalters
I also don’t know what the status of lists-as-duplicate-keys is in terms of standardisation, support etc.
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barnabywalters
e.g. using ?category=event&category=indieweb to get category: [event, indieweb]
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barnabywalters
certainly PHP supports it natively with some horrible [] syntax, Symfony HTTP supports raw params as does Django, not sure about other platforms
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barnabywalters
I’ll add these points to the brainstorming section
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barnabywalters
oh actually I see the benefit of using comma separated values — human writability
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waterpigs.co.uk
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@benwerd
@smc90 Join us for drinks later! Would love to say hi. #indieweb #xoxofest
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tantek
http://www.patreon.com/ looks really cool for supporting individual indieweb publishers and content creators. wondering - would people sponsor 2¢ per note? or 99¢ per blog post - like the iTunes 99¢ per song?
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barnabywalters
tantek: if payment was effortless enough, probably
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tantek
the UI looks pretty slick
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barnabywalters
they need to write up whatever’s in the video for people who can’t or don’t want to watch stuff
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barnabywalters
I’ve seen people put flattr buttons on blog posts before, not seen anyone do it for shorter content
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barnabywalters
I’m surprised more people don’t put such buttons on github projects
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tantek
I think the flattr flow is not that good
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neuro`
Flattr is horrible
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barnabywalters
that would explain it then
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tantek
also the flattr framing ("flatter") is too close to just "props" or "compliments" which people don't really associate with money/payment
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tantek
however, "Patreon" references "patrons" and "patronage" which are associated with funding/supporting "arts"
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bret
its funny to read all of the p2p website try to explain how to use flattr as a way to make donations, since nobody wants to figure it out on their own
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tantek
so that alone is a big difference
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tantek
also flattr doesn't have any obvious showcase examples of people producing quality material and getting paid non-trivial amounts
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tantek
so there's no real aspirational "hope" in the pitch - for flattr
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tantek
whereas with a few minutes searching, here's an Israeli blogger that's getting paid $39 per blog post with 21 patrons: http://www.patreon.com/user?u=45258
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barnabywalters
going to try it out
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bret
tantek what are your thoughts on gittip?
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tantek
haven't heard of it
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tantek
what is it?
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Loqi
it is what I
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bret
ummm
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bret
https://www.gittip.com/ I think someone from the indieweb is sort of involved with it
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barnabywalters
they have instant aspiration and expectation setting with top givers/receivers
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bret
http://gwenbell.com/ was getting some $$$ through it for a while
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@t
#xoxofest great @jackconte talk & @patreon intro. Any #indieweb bloggers with patrons? E.g. $1 patronage per article? (ttk.me t4SA2)
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tantek
"Gittip is a weekly gift exchange" seems like a trivial framing as well
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tantek
similar to "flattr"
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@annabloom
RT @t: #xoxofest great @jackconte talk & @patreon intro. Any #indieweb bloggers with patrons? E.g. $1 patronage per article? (ttk.me t4SA2)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /micropub (-46) "Good idea to use syndication URLs barnabywalters, updated accordingly"
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aaronparecki.com
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tantek.com
edited /Events (+12) "move xoxofest breakfasts to past, split up months in 2013 with breaks since we have so many events now!"
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@benwerd
What's the #indieweb / #microformats friendly take on infinite scroll? Sick of my prev / next buttons.
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aaronparecki.com
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Loqi
[@benwerd] Have decided not to use infinite scroll
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Loqi
better to have a faster UI and more sensible archive pages. #indieweb (http://twtr.io/ctp5J3qwRb)
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tantek
benwerd, glad to hear it. Have been advocating time-archive based pagination for a while.
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updating IndieMark per discussions at IndieWebCampUK 2013
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