#indiewebcamp 2014-03-06

2014-03-06 UTC
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@wavis
RT @kevinmarks: Looking forward to seeing (some of) you at #IndieWebCamp SF, 7th-8th March 2014 http://lanyrd.com/2014/indiewebcamp/ http://t.co/7VfW2jh2…
(twitter.com/_/status/441364060357922816)
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pauloppenheim
i've never been to one of these things before
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pauloppenheim
there are "sessions"
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pauloppenheim
i am aware that "barcamp style" means the attendees make the sessions, but i'm not sure what that means with 15 people.
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pauloppenheim
what are we going to do?
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KartikPrabhu
tantek, aaronpk ^^
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pauloppenheim
i anticipate sitting down and helping someone with their project for 2 days, interspersed with indieweb conversing, but it's not clear what the shape really is
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: hi there! i can help answer some questions
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: we'll structure the event like this: the first day we'll have a short intro to the indieweb. people will introduce themselves and how far they've progressed with indiewebifying their sites, as well as what they'd like to work on during the next two days
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pauloppenheim
ok, so it will be a working meetup, cool
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: we'll break up into smaller groups based on discussion topics put up on an unconference board. these sessions will last 45 minutes each, or we may do a longer sessions if we want to).
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pauloppenheim
i had that in my mind for some reason
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: the second day we'll split up into work groups to work on specific projects
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: because it's a smaller group of people it will function a bit more like the homebrew computer club. smaller breakout sessions and a bit deeper discussion. at any time you can choose whether to sit with someone and help them implement something specific. in fact, that would be a good session proposal!
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caseorganic
pauloppenheim: feel free to ask anything else if you need to with the !tell command. i'll answer it next time i'm on the IRC channel
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pauloppenheim
cool, thank you caseorganic
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pauloppenheim
caseorganic: i hate to, but is it OKK to show up late the first day? I have to watch my kid.
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indie-visitor
stoked for iw
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indie-visitor
anyone out there?
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KevinMarks
excellent
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KevinMarks
who's this?
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KevinMarks
type /nick [yourname]
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KevinMarks
hi Jared
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jaredh
lol hey
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jaredh
do you know who to contact if i want to volunteer
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KevinMarks
sign up on the wiki, I'd say
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jaredh
i saw that - it says to 'put my name here' under volunteers
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jaredh
there's no editing capabilities - thanks though :)
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pauloppenheim
jaredh: you need to sign in
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KartikPrabhu
good news everyone: mf2py with BS (https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py) now has rels/alternate parsing and complete list of property parsing too!
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KartikPrabhu
bear, snarfed, tommorris, barnabywalters ^
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snarfed
woot!!! nice work!
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snarfed
git pulling now
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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bear
KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu has 4 karma
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KartikPrabhu
feel free to open issues and bugs if you find any. Will work on using it on my site to parse mentions now, that most parsing should work
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aaronpk
!tell barnabywalters just re-read the getting started post, and there's a sentence fragment at "is a reference to..."
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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joel.franusic.com
edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+368) "/* Single Day Waitlists */ +@jf to Friday waitlist"
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joel.franusic.com
edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+13) "/* Single Day Waitlists */ fix image"
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pauloppenheim.com
edited /2014/SF (+90) "/* Questions for Organizers */"
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: filed another mf2py bug just now. thanks again for working on it!
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aaronpk
"A blog is your own piece of real estate on the internet." http://timkastelle.org/blog/2014/03/you-should-start-a-blog-right-now/
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@notenoughneon
Finished implementing receiving webmentions. Working on microformats parsing to display replies. #indieweb http://notenoughneon.com/p/201403042327
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tommorris
KartikPrabhu: thank you. as I said, I will get around to reviewing it all. just been busy with work.
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Loqi
barnabywalters: aaronpk left you a message 6 hours, 31 minutes ago: just re-read the getting started post, and there's a sentence fragment at "is a reference to..."
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: thanks! fixed on canonical and microformats.org versions
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tommorris.org
edited /site-deaths (+267) "/* 2014 */ adding Vizify"
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tantek.com
edited /2014/SF/Guest_List (+0) "/* Official Guest List */ updated counts"
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tantek
over half the spots are spoken for at IndieWebCampSF!
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KartikPrabhu
!tell snarfed: bug fixed. Turns out I had fixed that on local version already but not pushed to git :P
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@t
IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv1)
(twitter.com/_/status/441601578496438272)
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@abraham
RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv…
(twitter.com/_/status/441602650300108800)
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@benwerd
RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv…
(twitter.com/_/status/441602940994740224)
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Loqi
snarfed: KartikPrabhu left you a message 10 minutes ago: bug fixed. Turns out I had fixed that on local version already but not pushed to git :P
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: heh. thanks for the push!
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snarfed
i don't know if you tried parsing that link i mentioned?
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snarfed
i'm seeing another problem
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snarfed
i'll file an issue
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KartikPrabhu
just saw your issue. Maybe I was over confident about fixing it :P
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KartikPrabhu
will check it out
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: fixed and verified this time :)
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KartikPrabhu
thanks for keeping me on my toes
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snarfed
heh. thanks for the quick fixes!
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@benwerd
Twitter now not letting you create apps if you don't have a cell no. on your acct. #posse implications? #indieweb
(twitter.com/_/status/441608456500301824)
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tantek
wow that's pretty weird
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tantek
maybe it's a security thing?
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tantek
too many fake apps being created that are compromising users?
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KartikPrabhu
somehow having phone number works but email does not?
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tantek
phone numbers are more expensive and require more registration
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: just as a FYI: I would always use kwargs for inputs to mf2py Parser. "doc" for the actual contents and "url" for the URL. This seems to be more robust than using arguments
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KartikPrabhu
"doc" could be a file handle or even a string containing the input
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: will do. maybe update the Parser docstring to match that?
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KartikPrabhu
yes. will do that soon
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snarfed
(and maybe even the readme, etc.)
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snarfed
thanks!
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@benwerd
Wow! @mapkyca is going from strength to strength with Idno plugins. Embeddable posts: http://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/2014/03/06/embeddable-posts-in-idno/ #indieweb
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aaronpk
Just heard the headline about Yahoo turning off google and Facebook logins *on the radio*
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aaronpk
I didn't realize that was newsworthy enough for the radio
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tantek
aaronpk - it's big recognizable tech brands
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tantek
and has the appearance of conflict between them
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tantek
that's a formulaic narrative
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@schnarfed
RT @t: IndieWebCampSF is more than half full! Want to work on your own site? Join us Friday & Saturday: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/SF (ttk.me t4Uv…
(twitter.com/_/status/441616434989260800)
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barnabywalters
looks like the podcast with caseorganic in is public now: http://5by5.tv/inbeta/90
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tantek
barnabywalters - do we have a podcasts page yet?
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barnabywalters
tantek: I think this is the first one, so probably not
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waterpigs.co.uk
created /podcasts (+391) "Created stub with link to inbeta podcast"
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aaronpk
Hey all, Amber and I are heading to SF right now! We'll be in town around 1pm
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aaronpk
Would love to meet up with anyone in the afternoon and get some hacking done in the afternoon!
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tantek
aaronpk - great!
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tantek
I'll be available around 17:00
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caseorganic
Tantek: see you in SF!
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tantek
caseorganic: yay! :)
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Loqi
giggles
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aaronpk
I've gotta finish my Instagram app!
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aaronpk
Tiny plane is blowing around in the wind
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onewheelskyward
Oh I'd like to hear about that.
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bret
aaronpk , is it possible to send
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bret
possible to send a PR to add an atom feed for the irc logs?
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KevinMarks
'You just authenticated as 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks' but your website linked to 'https://www.twitter.com/kevinmarks/'' hm
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KevinMarks
"You just authenticated as 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks' but your website linked to 'https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/'"
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sparverius
hmmm yes
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KevinMarks
yay url equivalence
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KartikPrabhu
the trailing slash is a problem?
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sparverius
well im not sure about the rfc on this sort of thing but there's no guarantee those two are the same
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sparverius
one could be a resource and the other could be a directory, for example
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sparverius
now, it's twitter, so in that case they're equivilent
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sparverius
but a naive approach on an unknown resource would not know
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sparverius
i think?
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KevinMarks
right but indieauth isn't naive about twitter, it has domain knowledge
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KevinMarks
maybe sgnodemapper would help
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KevinMarks
OK, got it working now
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KevinMarks
heh, I forgot about that bio: http://about.me/kevinmarks/
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aaronpk
bret: I'd rather not add more stuff to the irc logs, how about using or making an h-entry to atom service?
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bnvk
if any of you are interested in https://keybase.io I have 8 invites
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caseorga_
Made it to SF! Heading to Embassy Network to check out the venue for tomorrow's IndieWebCamp.
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snarfed
welcome caseorga_!
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sparverius
anyone going to IWC that lives in the peninsula and would like to carpool?
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aaronpk
Any recommendations for lunch/hack spot in the area? Webster & Oak
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aaronpk
We're eating at Squat and Gobble, then will look for somewhere to hack a while
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snarfed
cool. thought about where to get drinks tonight, if we still want to?
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snarfed
i assume somewhere near the embassy?
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snarfed
sparverius: KevinMarks might
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snarfed
or we can try to turn in early and hit the ground running tomorrow
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sparverius
basically getting home might be a challenge for those of us down south
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snarfed
yup, that commute is always a bit tricky without a car. train to cab is definitely doable though
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bret
bnvk: ill take an invite :)
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bret
aaronpk: ah, ok yeah that sounds like it might be more interesting of a project
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: changed doc string and readme to reflect usage. Let me know if something is unclear
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bnvk
bret: DM me your email
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snarfed
thanks KartikPrabhu!
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: also removed using arguments for the Parser in latest update. Everything in kwargs now. seems much simpler
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snarfed
sounds good, especially if they're all documented
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snarfed
maybe also consider using explicit kwargs instead of the **kwargs dict. doesn't look like there's any need for it.
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snarfed
(and drop *args altogether)
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KartikPrabhu
aah yes. didn't bother to do that at the moment. will clean up in future updates
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markmhendrickson.com
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markmhendrickson.com
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aaronpk
caseorganic and I are at Bean There cafe hacking now
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snarfed
jealous! may be able to join you later
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caseorganic
snarfed: *excellent!*
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caseorganic
KevinMarks: Hey Kevin, might you have some nametags, large post it notes and pens lying around that you could bring to the event tomorrow?
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caseorganic
in general, does anyone have these? would save aaron and i from going to some kind of office supply place to grab them