#indieweb

2014-04-27

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@helloanselm
So I’m asking the #indieweb folks: Is there any similar service to Buffer (timed sharing to services like twitter)? (twtr.io/kfano06Jso)
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@kevinmarks
@helloanselm @t was talking about this yesterday http://indiewebcamp.com/scheduled (twtr.io/kfgGuVeSDL)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/syndication-models (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Facebook (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter (pingback)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @marihuertas: twitter stalks you mercilessly to make you use the fake accounts you create (twtr.io/kfzShFZkt4)
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@OhhSocialMedia
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @marihuertas: twitter stalks you mercilessly to make you use the fake accounts you create (twtr.io/kfz_ZNTC_8)
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@fdevillamil
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @marihuertas: twitter stalks you mercilessly to make you use the fake accounts you create (twtr.io/kg1AjUTn7m)
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@nchenga
@leumund ich. Gerade dein Tweet gesehen und mich angemeldet. Gibt es Beiträge zum Thema #indieweb https://github.com/indieweb/wordpress-indieweb ? /cc @wordcampch (twtr.io/kg1x_0dk2w)
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jeremyzilar
Good Morning New York! IndieWebCamp NYC: Day 2
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@RightSaidJames
RT @benwerd: Stripe will pay open source developers $7.5k/month to focus on their projects for 3 months: https://stripe.com/blog/stripe-open-source-retreat #indieweb … (twtr.io/kg8iySSRvC)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/syndication-models (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Facebook (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter (pingback)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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tantek
good morning #indiewebcamp!
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tantek
remote participants, we're now online at talky.io/indiewebcampnyc
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tantek
barnabywalters: ^^^
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barnabywalters
tantek: nice! I’m just heading out but will join you later
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tantek.com
created /timed_sharing (+24) "r" (view diff)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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tantek
this is a good inspiration article: http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/
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tantek
I wonder if we should keep track of these, articles where people (re)declare their blogging intentions
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bear_
those articles would be good to have in a "why indieweb" page
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jeremyzilar
http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/
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GWG
Good morning jeremyzilar
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tantek.com
edited /remote_participation (+149) "a bit more how to" (view diff)
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bear_
good morning GWG
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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tantek
kicking off the morning with "What are you going to hack on today?" round table
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GWG
Oh. I should get my stuff set
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tantek
Jet: Going to look at /payment page and see what I can get going on that. But first writing a blog post about the weekend.
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tantek
Bear: Working on having comments show up on my posts from the webmentions I'm already receiving and storing URLs of.
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tantek
Tantek: Working on next step in Person Focused Mobile Communications.
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tantek
Jeremy: Trying to get my blog silencematters working with webmentions receiving & displaying using plugins, and POSSEing to Twitter. Digging into WordPress plugins to figure out how to design and integrate getting facepiles to work for likes similar to aaronpk.
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GWG
jeremyzilar: Let's talk about that. I just did that.
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jeremyzilar_
test
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Loqi
[mention] http://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/04/27/remotely-attending-indiewebcamp-nyc/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (pingback)
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@dshanske
I'm remotely participating in Indiewebcamp NYC this morning, as I have to be at work later and can't get to Manhattan and back in time. ... (twtr.io/kgGT6_3p7C)
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GWG
There is it, making its rounds.
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GWG
The formatting for the POSSE versions still doesn't look right.
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tantek
GWG awesome!
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GWG
tantek: I deployed the new version last night
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aaronpk
good morning nyc!
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aaronpk
i can't hear you guys, but it's cool that I can see myself on your screen
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tantek
aaronpk we can hear you
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tantek
shows bear the regular expression for the CASSIS auto_link function >:D
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aaronpk
maybe I should mute myself so you don't hear me typing all the time
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tantek
aaronpk - it's all good, typing = productivity
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bear_
oh my word - that is one *evil* regex
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bear_
https://www.debuggex.com/ <-- for those who have regex issues to work out
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aaronpk
brb
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GWG
aaronpk: Hi, aaronpk
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/syndication-models (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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aaronpk
hello! had to make coffee.
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tantek.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+43) "sort the people that have shown up so far, update counts" (view diff)
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aaronpk
4 minutes until the french press is ready!
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Loqi
I added a countdown scheduled for 4/27 8:08am (#5405)
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tantek
aaronpk, add yourslf: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC/Guest_List#Remote_Participants
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aaronpk
oo I get to try out the fancy new guest list template thing
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tantek
yes!
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jeremyzilar_
Choo! Choo!
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tantek
aaronpk, is that a train on your end?
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aaronpk
ha you can hear that?
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Loqi
the french press is ready!
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aaronpk
i have you guys on a separate monitor now so I can see you out of the corner of my eye
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GWG
What was that URL for talky?
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aaronpk
http://talky.io/indiewebcampnyc
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tantek
yay!
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Loqi
woot
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bear_
we can't hear you GWG
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aaronpk
tantek: i'm going to ship you one of these cool webcams
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GWG
This is my Lifecam
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bear_
GWG it's your open laptop mic
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GWG
It isn't a laptop
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GWG
It's a desktop
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GWG
I muted on my end.
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GWG
I'll go get headphones
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bear_
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GWG
In the meantime, please enjoy this boat painting
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GWG
I got the headphones
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GWG
And unmuting
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GWG
It said THIS SPACE FOR RENT
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tantek
Paul Ford in the house!
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GWG
aaronpk: You have a whiteboard in your house?
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tantek
Chloe Weil is here too!
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GWG
Who?
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tantek
http://chloeweil.com/blog/hipster
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aaronpk
GWG: two of them!
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: hardcore
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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GWG
aaronpk: Very Big Bang Theory
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Kylewm.com * uploaded "[[File:kwm-linkless-tweet.png]]": RT of a post by @dangillmor that includes a link to an article, but not a link to the repost.
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aaronpk
tantek: do you normally get packages shipped to your house or do you pick up from an amazon locker
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GWG
This is riveting video
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bear_
:)
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Kylewm.com * uploaded "[[File:kwm-original-post-with-ppd-comments.png]]": An original post on kylewm.com that shows backfed replies, even though the syndicated content did not have a link to the original.
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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GWG
kylewm: I want to know more about these changes. I want to stop with the linkback URLs in the syndicated content.
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kylewm.com
edited /posse-post-discovery (-329) "woo! Bridgy now supports posse-post-discovery to backfeed when there is no original post link" (view diff)
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jeremyzilar_
GWG — can you moderate the mention that I just sent to http://tiny.n9n.us/2014/04/25/video-embed-test/
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aaronparecki.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+326) "add myself to remote participation" (view diff)
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barnabywalters
learns about amazon locker
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kylewm.com
edited /posse-post-discovery (+4) "/* Bridgy */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+0) "/* Remote Participants */ sort" (view diff)
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kylewm.com
edited /posse-post-discovery (+1) "/* Bridgy */ style" (view diff)
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kylewm
GWG: yeah! i'm super excited about it these changes! let me know if my edits to the wiki leave anything to be desired for getting set up
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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aaronpk
whoa amazon has same-day delivery to SF
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GWG
jeremyzilar_: On it. I've switched off the tiny site in favor of my normal one.
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GWG
jeremyzilar_: No new comments on tiny.n9n.us
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GWG
kylewm: What wiki page is it?
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kylewm
/posse-post-discovery
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aaronpk
am I gonna have to write a regex rule to auto-link text like that to the wiki page in the logs?
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barnabywalters
greetings NYC and aaronpk!
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aaronpk
greetings!
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GWG
kylewm: What do I need to do on that end?
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GWG
barnabywalters: What am I, chopped liver?
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barnabywalters
GWG: ah, I see you now!
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barnabywalters
you hadn’t shown up yet. hello!
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GWG
barnabywalters: Deployed my new theme with markup. Hopefully it gets the barnabywalters seal of approval
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kylewm.com
edited /Bridgy (+285) "/* Implementation details */ added posse-post-discovery section" (view diff)
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kylewm
GWG: I tried to put info for publishers here http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery#Set_up_your_site ... please tell me if it is confusing, wrong, or otherwise lacking!
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GWG
Why is indiewebify.me not picking up the syndication links on http://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/04/27/exciting-news-bridgy/ ?
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GWG
They are definitely there.
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aaronpk
GWG: I don't see them in the parsed version either http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdavid.shanske.com%2Fnotes%2F2014%2F04%2F27%2Fexciting-news-bridgy%2F
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GWG
jeremyzilar_: This is my version of the Facepile now... http://david.shanske.com/articles/2014/04/10/ive-joined-indieweb-movement/#comments
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GWG
aaronpk: But they are in the code. That is why I'm wondering what I'm missing.
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aaronpk
i don't find any text "syndication" in the source either
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aaronpk
actually I don't even see it on the page
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GWG
I do.
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snarfed
GWG: try in an incognito browser window, ie not logged into wordpress
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snarfed
probably something that's only turned on for admin users
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GWG
Oh...
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GWG
The cache
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GWG
I forgot.
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aaronpk
yay caching
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kylewm
Thank you for the nice comment, GWG :)
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GWG
I couldn't add the links till I posted them
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GWG
So, it cached the non-linked version
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GWG
One second
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snarfed
morning all, and i'll second the congrats kyle
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GWG
Logged in users bypass cache.
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snarfed
yay!
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Loqi
:D
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snarfed
off to (re)post now
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snarfed
btw kylewm, one fun thing you can do now is add this to the docs. templates/about.html
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snarfed
(actually, i'm probably the only one who thinks that's fun :P)
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kylewm
lol
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Loqi
[mention] http://kylewm.com/reply/2014/04/27/1 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery (webmention)
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tantek
hey barnabywalters !
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barnabywalters
GWG: new site and markup looking good!
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barnabywalters
good afternoon tantek
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@kyle_wm
See http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery for more details on Bridgy’s linkless original post discovery! (twtr.io/kgMs9fF9wJ)
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GWG
aaronpk: I cleared the cache. It requires me sending a special header in.
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aaronpk
i see it now!
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GWG
aaronpk: The cache purging code obviously needs to be revisited
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aaronpk
caching is hard
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GWG
aaronpk: It is an nginx fastcgi cache with a purge triggered by requesting the page with a special http header
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GWG
When's lunch at this event?
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GWG
And can someone pass me a slice of pizza?
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aaronpk
no but i can give you some coffee
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GWG
Sorry, dont' drink it.
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GWG
Maybe I will go grab something down the street and bring it back. I have to eat something before work in 2 hours.
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GWG
snarfed: Thank you for joining my Facepile http://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/04/27/exciting-news-bridgy/
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snarfed
welcome!
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@giri_sreenivas
“@davewiner: Mathew Ingram misses the blogosphere. http://t.co/CQBQtmIVLo” /cc @schnarfed for IndieWeb mention (twtr.io/kgNEgcJxhQ)
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GWG
snarfed: I got that feature working yesterday just before Indiewebcamp and finished it there.
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snarfed
congrats!
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snarfed
good timing
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bear_
wonders if KartikPrabhu is around?
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aaronpk
oh nice, matthew ingram found dan gillmor's post http://gigaom.com/2014/04/27/sometimes-i-miss-the-old-blogosphere-weve-gained-a-lot-but-weve-also-lost-some-valuable-things/
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GWG
snarfed: That was why tantek was asking about favorites vs likes. I was sitting there with that.
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snarfed
aha
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@schnarfed
RT @kyle_wm: See http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery for more details on Bridgy’s linkless original post discovery! (twtr.io/kgNR64qc0p)
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@benwerd
I'm thinking about adding comments. What do you like? #indieweb http://werd.io/2014/im-thinking-about-adding-comments-what-do-you-like-indieweb (twtr.io/kgNdPCpNmR)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/kyle_wm/460443965792075778/460445502648373249 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/kyle_wm/460443965792075778/18331731 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/posse-post-discovery (webmention)
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snarfed
congrats again, kylewm. for such a substantial addition, i really am impressed with how smoothly the launch went. and everyone's definitely going to love it. nice work!!!
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GWG
I've muted myself. My ears were hot
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GWG
kylewm: But it is still not recommended over linking the other way?
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snarfed
GWG: probably personal preference, and depends on the post type too
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bear_
!tell KartikPrabhu i'm getting an error using your mf2py fork: "ImportError: No module named mf_helpers"
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bret
morning #indiewebcamp
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snarfed
morning bret!
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tantek
morning!
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kylewm
snarfed: thanks for the nice words and for all the support and feedback!
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aaronpk
morning bret!
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GWG
snarfed: I can't get the posting right
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snarfed
GWG: no?
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barnabywalters
greetings bret!
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bret
hey barnabywalters :)
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bret
aaronpk you dont have op!
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tantek
bret, add yourself: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC/Guest_List#Remote_Participants
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tantek
GWG, you should add yourself there too - be in two places on the page :D http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC/Guest_List#Remote_Participants
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bret
bear so rad!
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bret
bear does it do echo reduction and stuff?
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david.shanske.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+370) "/* Remote Participants */" (view diff)
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GWG
Note to self...get new profile picture
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GWG
THat isn't a current one. But I rarely pose for pictures
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GWG
I'm hungry. Please talk amongst yourselves. Be back shortly
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aaronpk
hm a side effect of me launching this change is i'm going to lose the references to external posts in my /tags feed
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aaronpk
until I build a DB index for external posts
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aaronpk
i suppose that's ok since that was kind of a side effect anyway
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barnabywalters
bret: nice kitchen!
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GWG
I left you an avata
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GWG
I left you an avatar
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bret
barnabywalters :D making coffee
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bret
kitchen/diningroom/bedroom
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jeremyzilar_
GWG — can you moderate a few comments here: http://tiny.n9n.us/2014/04/25/video-embed-test/comment-page-1/
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GWG
jeremyzilar_: Done
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bear_
!tell KartikPrabhu I fixed the issue and sent you a pull request
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bret.io
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+310) "/* Remote Participants */ Added me!" (view diff)
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aaronpk
was everyone hammering the wiki when it crashed?
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bret
gotta run!
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barnabywalters
bret: have a good day!
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bret
ill be back later working on camlistore
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tantek
"You just can't beat a make file, they're so good." - @ftrain
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aaronpk
is launching DB indexing on aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk
currently rebuilding the DB from the list of files
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: nice! is your table structure documented anywhere?
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/syndication-models (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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aaronpk
it will be soon
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tantek
"So uh, I've taken over my wife's blog and she doesn't know it." - @jeremyzilar
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/syndication-models (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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GWG
Did I miss anything?
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GWG
Guess not. Looks pretty much the same as when I left.
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@benwerd
Secret had a masquerade ball. I'm looking forward to the first #indieweb party, where we all dance in our bedrooms to the same music. (twtr.io/kgT9aU58LJ)
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aaronpk
https://twitter.com/dlature/status/460458897493749760
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@dlature
.@aaronpk in @dangillmor (re: Indie Web mvmt importance) "the silos formed & attracted people because it was easier" http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ (twitter.com/_/status/460458897493749760)
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GWG
I hear some interesting conversation going on there.
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@t
Meanwhile @IndieWebCamp: @ftrain uses an Android to ssh, emacs add rel=me to http://t.co/r38casTXuF, works first time. (ttk.me t4Vn2) (twtr.io/kgTSCs1y2f)
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GWG
I'll stick with vi and nano
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ftrain.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+244) "/* Creators */" (view diff)
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GWG
aaronpk: More coffee?
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/building-blocks (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/payment (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/building-blocks (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/payment (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (webmention)
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aaronpk
more coffee!
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GWG
aaronpk: Want a slice of pizza?
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aaronpk
GWG: lol
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aaronpk
wow someone did this http://spoke.coffee/
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GWG
I have a question for the group
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GWG
Styling an h-card. Thoughts?
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@junglecode
Currently at @indiewebcamp NYC http://junglecode.net/nyc-indie-web-camp-weekend/ /cc @t @jeremyzilar (twtr.io/kgUVk5HZWf)
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@obra
RT @benwerd: Secret had a masquerade ball. I'm looking forward to the first #indieweb party, where we all dance in our bedrooms to the same… (twtr.io/kgUbyrcumR)
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@dascritch
RT @t: Meanwhile @IndieWebCamp: @ftrain uses an Android to ssh, emacs add rel=me to http://t.co/r38casTXuF, works first time. (ttk.me t4Vn2) (twtr.io/kgUcHFFQDs)
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GWG
I want to create a Wordpress h-card widget
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jeremyzilar_
http://vellum.nytlabs.com/
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jeremyzilar_
http://www.savepublishing.com/
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GWG
jeremyzilar_: Still hoping to get a copy of those docments
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aaronpk
huh I think I accidentally wrote some code
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: STAY CALM
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aaronpk
i have no idea how this got here
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GWG
aaronpk: Codemonkeys have been dispatched to your location.
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GWG
aaronpk: Too much coffee?
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aaronpk
if that's the case, I want more of this coffee
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Loqi
gives aaronpk more of this coffee
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aaronpk
thanks loqi, you're the best
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Loqi
you're welcome
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aaronpk
this coffee must have some PHP in it
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: what does the mysterious code do?
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aaronpk
renders the posts on my tag page using the same code as when they're displayed in a regular list, so I can remove a lot of special casing I was doing
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GWG
aaronpk: And you don't remember writing it
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barnabywalters
off to start making evening food
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GWG
barnabywalters: Have fun
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aaronpk
I copy/pasted from a different part of the code when I was refactoring, and somehow it got transformed into the newer better version after I pasted
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GWG
Sleeprogramming?
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aaronpk
coffeegramming
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jeremyzilar_
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/620+8th+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10018/Gotham+West+Market,+600+11th+Ave,+New+York,+NY+10036/@40.7593521,-73.9918975,16z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c259acca6335f7:0x6ea4d23551313f3!2m2!1d-73.9898592!2d40.7562249!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2584e7a09c2ef:0x1c86d18cad7c55bd!2m2!1d-73.996903!2d40.762362!3e2
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jeremyzilar_
L U N C H
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@generic_brian
first #indieweb url setup. No real indieweb integration yet, maybe today maybe tomorrow http://atoddswithclarity.com/ #noForm #noStyle (twtr.io/kgYE_9cEXU)
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@markhdavis
RT @kyle_wm: Great article! Brace yourself for more attention #indieweb RT @dangillmor Why the Indie Web movement is so important http://t.… (twtr.io/kgYQC4WP_R)
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silencematters.com
edited /2014 (+484) "/* IndieWebCamp 2014 */" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks
"@semil: My final @techcrunch column: http://t.co/gnZCZCUK8C" time to get #indieweb (twtr.io/kgZ3PPuAzE)
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@MENGonline
RT @kyle_wm: Brace yourself for more attention RT @dangillmor Why the #IndieWeb movement is so important http://dangillmor.com/?p=1173 #mengonline (twtr.io/kgZhkY_HPC)
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: do you have a better way of pushing out tiny changes to a composer package other than making a whole new tag and incrementing the minor version number?
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aaronpk
i sometimes end up pushing out tiny fixes and have to go from 0.1.12 to 0.1.13
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aaronpk
cool now I have paging on my tag pages
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kylewm
interesting, mf2py parses GWG's h-card p-author as "Author"
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kylewm
php-mf2 gets it right, no surprise
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kylewm
aaronpk: db-indexing is live on your site now?
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aaronpk
yeah!
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aaronpk
now porting to caseorganic.com
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aaronpk
the only noticeable difference you'll see is that I was able to add a new URL: http://aaronparecki.com/metrics/sleep
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aaronpk
because now I can easily query for just the "sleep" type of metrics
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kylewm
maybe it's just me but it feels faster
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: nicely done!
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aaronpk
it's quite possible
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aaronpk
it involved a lot of filesystem queries before
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kylewm
did you maintain an index on disk before? or just walk the directory tree?
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aaronpk
I had an index file for tags, but the lists were walking the filesystem
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kylewm
awesome
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kylewm
thinking about how i'm going to handle that down the road :)
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aaronpk
i did have an attempt at caching the lists in memcache but I don't think that was working very well
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barnabywalters
if I ever move away from files+CSV indexes, it’ll be to elasticsearch
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aaronpk
elastic search seems cool but is a little scary
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@jjmajava
RT @t: Writing & *doing*: @dangillmor post on his own site about #indieweb: http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ and syndicates to Slate. (ttk.me t4Vk2) (twtr.io/kgbobMf3m9)
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aaronpk
and now DB indexes are live on caseorganic.com!
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aaronparecki.com
edited /p3k (+2261) "/* Database */ add implementation notes about the database" (view diff)
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/move]] move * Aaronparecki.com * moved [[databases-antipattern]] to [[database-antipattern]]
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aaronparecki.com
edited /database (+48) (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /database-antipattern (+24) "/* Caching ok */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /MySQL (+133) (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com
created /database-cache (+319) "Created page with "{{stub}} Databases are often useful as a caching layer or when used to be able to perform complex queries of content. === IndieWeb Usage === * [[User:Aaronparecki.com|Aaron Par..."" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /p3k (+243) "/* Database */" (view diff)
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aaronpk
kylewm: barnabywalters: some notes on my database usage in p3k http://indiewebcamp.com/p3k#Database
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aaronpk
lunch time
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kylewm
aaronpk: cool, thanks for sharing! are you using postgres?
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@tylrrbrts
Decentralize the internet. Learn more about the @indiewebcamp from @dangillmor. Get back to owning your ideas. http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ (twtr.io/kggXGnp05L)
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barnabywalters
you have gone!
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bear_
can you hear us kyle?
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kylewm
my volume was muted
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kylewm
can hear you now!
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barnabywalters
kylewm: nope, still muted!
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aaronpk
kylewm: mysql, cause I don't have a good postgres setup in production right now
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kylewm
I can hear you
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kylewm
my mic doesn't seem to work
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kylewm
which is ok
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barnabywalters
I heard some noises!
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bret
what if i told you running smallest federated wiki was as easy as npm install -g wiki?
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@ya_f
@AndyMusing Ce n'est pas vraiment un lien http://indiewebcamp.com/permashortlinks#permashortlink (twtr.io/kgh_BdHTAx)
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kylewm
magritte++
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Loqi
magritte has 1 karma
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kylewm
GWG: do you know that your h-entry's have two p-author cards on permalink pages? http://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/04/27/website-version-2/
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bear_
bret - is that ward's code?
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tantek
greetings
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bret
bear_: yup!
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bret
he came to play around with camlistore and we got distracted for a bit with sfw
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bear_
hahaha
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Loqi
rofl
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GWG
kylewm: You want me to answer your comment here or in line?
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kylewm
here's good
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kylewm
hey does anyone know if Amber's passion projects talk is online somewhere? I couldn't find it for the life of me
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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@ejpfauth
Here's a guide to start publishing in the 'indie web' way. Still pretty geeky, but it feels rebellious too http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started (twtr.io/kgjuxtoL7U)
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@ftrain
@t @indiewebcamp XSLT is an excellent technology and one day the world will agree. See you (remotely, probably!) at the next one in June. (twtr.io/kgjxL82wvU)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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kylewm
tantek: I don't think I changed it
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu: bear_ left you a message 4 hours, 9 minutes ago: i'm getting an error using your mf2py fork: "ImportError: No module named mf_helpers"
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tantek.com
edited /Getting_Started (+17) "fix shortlinks link" (view diff)
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu: bear_ left you a message 3 hours, 51 minutes ago: I fixed the issue and sent you a pull request
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kylewm
signed off ... bad connection here, I want to see the demos later though!
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GWG
kylewm: The social icons were on the test site. The profile picture was not. I want to fiddle with it to make sort of a business card style h-card
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GWG
Also, the social icons are a fixed position, the profile pic is widgetized. So, I need to adjust the sidebar configuration.
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GWG
I may pull up the content bars
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aaronpk
hm yes I thought amber's talk was online
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aaronpk
maybe not
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KevinMarks
It was filmed
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KevinMarks
My notes are at http://www.kevinmarks.com/amberpassion.html
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KevinMarks
I suspect Julie Ann will need to find a new host url
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aaronpk
all the previous talks are on the github youtube channel
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kylewm
good point KevinMarks
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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KartikPrabhu
bear_: sorry for that error. There was an untracked file. Update mf2py repo with corrections
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@GossipExMachina
Take back your email. Mail in a Box https://github.com/JoshData/mailinabox #indieweb (twtr.io/kgmkNgRfUr)
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bear_
KartikPrabhu: no worries - i'm using it for some work and ran into it
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KartikPrabhu
yeah. that;s what I thought... I'd hate to hinder your progress at indiewebcamp ;)
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bear_
that is not a worry - my own coding blunders are doing a great job of slowing me down today :)
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KartikPrabhu
haha! :)
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KartikPrabhu
is implementing scheduled posts ala http://indiewebcamp.com/scheduling
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/jeremyzilar/459060648815894528/459061381858615296 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/jeremyzilar/459059068540563458/459416793027985408 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/jeremyzilar/459060648815894528/459064120479059968 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/NYC (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (webmention)
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jeremyzilar
Sorry for all the pings in the IRC, I have been testing a number of different things between my blog and my wife's blog
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jeremyzilar
I just set up https://www.brid.gy/twitter/jeremyzilar
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snarfed
glad to hear it jeremyzilar!
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snarfed
feel free to ping if you have any q's
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KartikPrabhu
jeremyzilar: have fun with bridgy!
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jeremyzilar
snarfed: Thanks, trying to figure out what the next step would be to pull in twitter favs and tweets about my post into my blog
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snarfed
webmention support!
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snarfed
http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention
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snarfed
what server software does your blog run on?
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GWG
jeremyzilar: I know you run Wordpress. You want to see my code for the Facepiles off of the Linkback plugn
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jeremyzilar
snarfed: WordPress
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KartikPrabhu
just made scheduling! w00t! http://kartikprabhu.com/article/twisted-belt a future post that does not show up in feeds ;)
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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jeremyzilar
GWG: That would be great — I would like to see how to pull in the likes
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snarfed
aha, wordpress. installing the indieweb bundle plugin should be enough. http://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/
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jeremyzilar
KartikPrabhu: Nice!
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jeremyzilar
snarfed: Then maybe I need a few tweets to test ? http://silencematters.com/2014/04/26/indiewebcamp-nyc-setting-up-webmentions-on-wordpress/
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barnabywalters
jeremyzilar: it’s fascinating hearing somone discover the joys of IRC for the first time :)
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snarfed
jeremyzilar: ok, i favorited a tweet of yours. try hittng the "poll now" button on https://www.brid.gy/twitter/jeremyzilar
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snarfed
jeremyzilar: worked! http://silencematters.com/2014/04/24/larry-page-on-the-origins-of-googles-pagerank/
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jeremyzilar
snarfed: Wow, that is great. Thank you!
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GWG
jeremyzilar: I use Bridgy for that.
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GWG
My work just takes the webmentions and formats them differently for display
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jeremyzilar
snarfed: So, will brid.gy poll automatically every X mins or is it a manual poll each time?
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snarfed
jeremyzilar: automatically every 15m or so
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jeremyzilar
OK, great.
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KartikPrabhu
jeremyzilar: bridgy responses are so great to see :)
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kylewm
KartikPrabhu: will your belt article have images in the future?
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kylewm
wondering if I should wait to read the whole thing :)
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KartikPrabhu
oh yes... it is only the text now for testing
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KartikPrabhu
images are hard to make :(
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kylewm
yes
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jeremyzilar
GWG: Did you go into the WM plugin and separate out the likes from the replies and sich?
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kylewm
refernce to The Prestige got my attention though
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KartikPrabhu
aaah poop! that was supposed be some sort of hidden easter egg
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KartikPrabhu
oh well!
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GWG
jeremyzilar: No. They are separated out. I did it at the theme level. It could be done at a plugin.
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GWG
wp_list_comments(
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GWG
array(
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GWG
'type' => 'webmention',
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GWG
'callback' => 'wp_webmention',
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GWG
'avatar_size'=> 75
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GWG
)
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GWG
Sorry...that didn't paste well
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GWG
I have separate formatting calls for webmentions, comments, and pingbacks/trackbacks
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GWG
There are other ways
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GWG
It could be a single callback function, with a switch case
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kartikprabhu.com
edited /scheduling (+241) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ add me!" (view diff)
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aaronpk
argh
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KartikPrabhu
oh noes! what happened?
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KartikPrabhu
is there a good recommendation for default parsing in case a webmention source does not have microformats?
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aaronpk
fpm is having issues
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aaronpk
KartikPrabhu: yes see comments-presentation but after i restore the wiki
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KartikPrabhu
cool! thanks
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KartikPrabhu
bummed about missing most of the indieweb aciton yesterday. hope people are having fun
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bear_
it's been a great session
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aaronpk
http://indiewebcamp.com/comments-presentation
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: that mostly relies on microformats which I think I have done already. I was wondeirng if the source does not have microformats
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aaronpk
hm I thought there was something there about it
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aaronpk
I think I just display it as a link anyway
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barnabywalters
KartikPrabhu: probably just take the <title> and URL as name and url, ignore author and the other properties
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aaronpk
I wouldn't even trust the <title> tag
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barnabywalters
if you’re really desparate you could try parsing for opengraph or twitter or dublin core or RDFa or microdata or whatever
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barnabywalters
s/desparate/desperate
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Loqi
barnabywalters meant to say: if you’re really desperate you could try parsing for opengraph or twitter or dublin core or RDFa or microdata or whatever
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aaronpk
IME the <title> tag is often full of junk or doesn't look good when rendered as a comment
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KartikPrabhu
barnabywalters: I was thinking of using some of the usual meta things people use like meta name=author
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barnabywalters
KartikPrabhu: what do people even put in meta name=author?
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barnabywalters
a URL? a name?
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KartikPrabhu
a name
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KartikPrabhu
for instance: <meta name="author" content="Kartik Prabhu"> from my site
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aaronpk
for some reason I have that too
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aaronpk
I don't know why, I wonder if it was something to do with google authorship
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KartikPrabhu
i think this is the older pratice
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KartikPrabhu
you can also do a meta name="thumbnail" which is what FB uses as th preview iamge
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@drjaxon
POSSE - IndieWebCamp | @scoopit http://www.scoop.it/t/digital-pedagogy-by-kim-jaxon/p/4020351875/2014/04/27/posse-indiewebcamp (twtr.io/kgr4T5m0jo)
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Loqi
[mention] http://www.scoop.it/t/digital-pedagogy-by-kim-jaxon/p/4020351875/2014/04/27/posse-indiewebcamp linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://www.scoop.it/t/digital-pedagogy-by-kim-jaxon/p/4020353268/2014/04/27/getting-started-indiewebcamp linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Get_Started (pingback)
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@drjaxon
Getting Started - IndieWebCamp | @scoopit http://www.scoop.it/t/digital-pedagogy-by-kim-jaxon/p/4020353268/2014/04/27/getting-started-indiewebcamp (twtr.io/kgr5X_quWQ)
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aaronpk
now I support deleted posts!
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KartikPrabhu
sweet! i should do that too. tombstoning!
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aaronparecki.com
edited /p3k (+43) "/* Features */" (view diff)
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aaronpk
was trivial once I had a database index
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KartikPrabhu
the trouble is that Django's default delete just deletes the object from DB. WIll have to fiddle with that at some point
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KartikPrabhu
I do have it for responses where the response-type is set to deleted!
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KartikPrabhu
snarfed: updated mf2py with better encoding detection. might be useful for bridgy
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snarfed
KartikPrabhu: thanks! will do
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aaronpk
working on an indieauth client now
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kylewm
KartikPrabhu: does it seem strange to you that mf2py picks up "Author" as the p-author property here http://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/04/06/feedback/
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KartikPrabhu
hmm
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kylewm
it's <span class="p-author"><a href="..." title="Author">Actual Name</a></span>
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KartikPrabhu
this is on the h-card? or the main page author?
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kylewm
the hcard inside the hentry
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kylewm
(the first one)
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barnabywalters
off to make hot chocolate, bbiab
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bear_
\o/ I have my code auto-adding webmentions to my posts using mf2py
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kylewm
bear_ that's awesome! then regenerating the static site?
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KartikPrabhu
bear_: awesome! :D
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GWG
kylewm: Did I mark it up wrong?
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KartikPrabhu
GWG, kylewm: looking at that. I supposed php-mf2 does what is expected..
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kylewm
GWG: no i don't think so, I think it's a mf2py bug
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KartikPrabhu
s/supposed/suppose
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu meant to say: GWG, kylewm: looking at that. I suppose php-mf2 does what is expected..
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GWG
KartikPrabhu, kylewm: Will ask though....should I change something though? It would be a simple fix to change the markup.
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GWG
As the bug won't be
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: no it is definitely a bug in mf2py the markup is pretty sound
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KartikPrabhu
your markup is helpful to track down this bug, so it is better left alone :)
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: found the bug! it is in the helper function https://github.com/kartikprabhu/mf2py/blob/master/mf2py/dom_helpers.py#L15 it turns out that check_name is allowed to be a string or list, and so it checks for 'a' in 'abbr' which is True! :|
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kylewm
whoa how'd you find that so fast?
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kylewm
that is subtle
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KartikPrabhu
well I wrote most of it. so I know where each piece is :)
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KartikPrabhu
i'll add a check for string and deal with it that way
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kylewm
nice! thanks mucho
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aaronpk
bret: have you given any more thought to indieauth+micropub since last hwc?
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bear_
KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu has 20 karma
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@paulmwatson
The IndieWeb movement encourages the best of old-school blogging and social networks. Own and share your work. http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ (twtr.io/kgv1qepy6w)
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kylewm
KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi
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KartikPrabhu
aww! thanks guys but it isn't fixed yet :)
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: bear_: some advice. Currently that method uses tuples to check to valid elements, is it advisable to allow tuples and lists so stick with tuples?
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KartikPrabhu
s/so/or
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Loqi
KartikPrabhu meant to say: kylewm: bear_: orme advice. Currently that method uses tuples to check to valid elements, is it advisable to allow tuples and lists or stick with tuples?
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kylewm
haha
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KartikPrabhu
yeah well! spelling booboo :)
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kylewm
yeah, that's tricky cause strings are iterable arent they
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@milesneidinger
Tired of centralized media? Welcome to the #indieweb. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/25/indiewebcamps_create_tools_for_a_new_internet.html (twtr.io/kgvsUncEf0)
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kylewm
so you can't just check if the input is iterable
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KartikPrabhu
yup! :P
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KartikPrabhu
I'm going with tuple or list
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kylewm
I'd vote to allow either
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bear_
KartikPrabhu: I always stick with list
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kylewm
yeah
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bear_
but yea, the difference between a list and a tuple as an input should not matter
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KartikPrabhu
ok cool! :)
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bear_
they should be read-only and both are iterable
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm, bear_: fix pushed! thanks for noticing this. GWG's markup is correctly parsed now :)
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jeremyzilar
Can I get a few people to FAV or RT this Tweet? https://twitter.com/jeremyzilar/status/460539659060117505
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@jeremyzilar
Honoring Baseball's Hosiery Heritage http://silencematters.com/2014/04/27/honoring-baseballs-hosiery-heritage-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/460539659060117505)
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jeremyzilar
I would like to see it if webmentions show up here: http://silencematters.com/2014/04/27/honoring-baseballs-hosiery-heritage-2/
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KartikPrabhu
jeremyzilar: faved! that episode is lying in my feed waiting to be listened
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jeremyzilar
KartikPrabhu: Thanks!
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KartikPrabhu
but why did it not showup ?
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@LegendaryPKMN
Surely http://www.legendarypokemon.net/psi wasn't timed well, hard to understand, harder to realise. Here's hoping to a future #pokemon #indieweb! (twtr.io/kgwjZJ958G)
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KartikPrabhu
alright! laptop dying... time to leave cafe!
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aaronpk
joined the video but is on mute
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@destaic
RT @paulmwatson: The IndieWeb movement encourages the best of old-school blogging and social networks. Own and share your work. http://t.co… (twtr.io/kgxL2f14rD)
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aaronpk
are you guys doing presentations at some point soon?
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GWG
How is it that I'm exposing all these things?
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GWG
First that favorite thing, now this?
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jeremyzilar
http://silencematters.com/2014/04/27/honoring-baseballs-hosiery-heritage-2/
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kylewm
woohoo, GWG is no longer 'Author'
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GWG
Taking a break now
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GWG
kylewm: Looking at the social menus issue.
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tantek
what is the social menus issue?
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kylewm
tantek: I think it is just a layout thing that I suggested to GWG, rearrange things to be a little tighter
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: what’s the drawing in your background?
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tantek
really doesn't like the noisiness in Twitter latest stream UI :(
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GWG
kylewm: How is that?
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GWG
I took out the margin
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tantek
aaronpk, we're doing a quick round table on demo-readiness
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kylewm
looks pretty good to me GWG, good compromise :)
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kylewm
I have a smaller laptop screen than normal so i'm especially sensitive to big gaps i guess
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aaronpk
cool i'll get headphones
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: that's the sketches for the shed in the backyard which is now almost finished being built
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GWG
kylewm: I want to design a Wordpress widget to cover the h-card profile picture in the corner
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GWG
what is there now is temporary
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: nice!
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: this is a little messy, but here it is! http://instagram.com/p/mlZZRZJN5I/
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aaronpk
also it's painted now so it looks better
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: looks like quite an up-market shed!
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aaronpk
brb taking a picture
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: thanks for the py3 shims! :)
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bear_
ok, this is what I did today - well, it will show what I did if someone tosses a webmention at it -- https://bear.im/bearlog/2014/117/bearlog-now-handles-inbound-webmentions
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/04/27/1/launchpad
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aaronpk
that's wht it looks like now!
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bear_
that's more than a simple shed aaronpk :)
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GWG
kylewm: I'm looking at your site
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aaronpk
you have no idea :)
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: is it fully home-automated?
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barnabywalters
or shed-automated?
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KartikPrabhu
bear_: I got a 500 error
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bear_
nooo
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bear_
looks
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aaronpk
the floor is heated, and i'm putting in philips hue bulbs
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aaronpk
the floor heat will be controlled via a nest
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KartikPrabhu
bear_: here is the permalink if you want to test yourself in detail: http://kartikprabhu.com/notes/bear-mentions
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: that’s insane and also awesome
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aaronpk
also at night there's floor lighting in the patio which i'm hooking up to motion sensors
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GWG
aaronpk: What will you be doing with this shed?
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barnabywalters
briansuda got a phillips hue to play with
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kbs
bear_: an unrelated minor heads-up [for the tiny fraction of pgp-heads still around :)] https://bear.im/pubkey.txt is currently pointing to a file with two keys, one an expired one.
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aaronpk
it's kind of an office
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bear_
kbs - thanks - I keep forgetting to remove the expired key reference
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GWG
aaronpk: A very geeky one.
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bear_
KartikPrabhu: can you try again - I fixed the error
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KartikPrabhu
alrighty
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bear_
wooo!
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KartikPrabhu
hey! there we go! :)
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KartikPrabhu
but the display looks as if I'm the author ;)
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KartikPrabhu
also some datetime funniness
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bear_
yes, tantek was just saying the same thing
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bear_
it's me not grok'ing how to read the mf2 output
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bear_
yea, I have some bugs - kylewm's mention has no author
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KartikPrabhu
yeah just saw that :)
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kylewm
hey but it showed up, that's so cool!
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bear_
but the good part is that the plumbing is using mf2py so any mistakes are mine to fix
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bear_
yes!
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: what is the url for your mention. I'd like to see the author buisness
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kbs
https://bear.im/bearlog/2014/117/bearlog-now-handles-inbound-webmentions looks good - from irc :-)
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: in case you didn't see it before, I have an ipad attached to the wall which controls the philips hue bulbs http://instagram.com/p/jVF1GPDciJ/
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kylewm
http://kylewm.com/reply/2014/04/27/3
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aaronpk
most expensive light switch ever
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bear_
nice drywall screw mounts :)
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: aah you hide the hcard. that's why i remember there not being one :P
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aaronpk
bear_: yeah I couldn't find a wall mount I liked so I was like screw it
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aaronpk
;)
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KartikPrabhu
badoomtsssh!
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bear_
hahaha
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kylewm
aaronpk: was that 9 celsius or fahrenheit?
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: that is very cool. the furthest we got in the office was controlling it via python on the commandline
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aaronpk
kylewm: celsius
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kylewm
I didn't think it got THAT cold in portland :P
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: it's very well done cause the wifi bridge thing is its own API and doesn't rely on a cloud service
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aaronpk
kylewm: yeah I've been setting everything to celsius so that I force myself to learn it so I can communicate with all my non-US friends about the weather
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kylewm
love it
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: is 9° usual temperature for portland?
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kylewm
kbs: they are asking how you are sending webmentions from irc
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kbs
oh
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kylewm
curl?
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kbs
yea
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kbs
I should probably add somethnig in erc I guess, just for kicks
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Loqi
yea!
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: I don't know, my knowledge of celsius is only around 0-6 and 18-23
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: fair enough :)
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aaronpk
did facebook just switch to posting new comments at the top of threads?
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@djp1974
What I did while on my #socmed sabbatical - started #blogging: http://wudt.wordpress.com/2014/04/27/makingtomorrowbetter/ Help me chose a name! #indieweb #somid2000s #fb (twtr.io/kh1DQBtczU)
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tantek.com
edited /2014/NYC/Guest_List (+13) "classic ftrain site image" (view diff)
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bear_
https://bear.im/bearlog/2014/117/bearlog-now-handles-inbound-webmentions
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jeremyzilar
Ok, we are starting on a few DEMOs here in NYC
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tantek
Starting demos!
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barnabywalters
yay!
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Loqi
:D
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jeremyzilar
Happy words
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aaronpk
Loqi is magic
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KevinMarks_
I don't think so aaronpk
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jeremyzilar
What are we showing here? Bear is about to speak.
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aaronpk
KevinMarks_: hello!
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jeremyzilar
Bear has a static site. Added logic to add webmetions into his custom site, which is using the microformat2 python library which KartikPrabhu and tantek are working on
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barnabywalters
hi KevinMarks!
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KevinMarks_
hello noisy typign aaron
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aaronpk
that wasn't me :)
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KevinMarks_
no, just joined for demos
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jeremyzilar
Tantek is hooking up technology
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jeremyzilar
Hopefully you should see something other than the BLUE screen on the wall
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KartikPrabhu
jeremyzilar: I don't think tantek pythons (do you?). mf2py is originally by tommorris, barnabywalters and newer people are me and kylewm...
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jeremyzilar
KartikPrabhu: I am not a scribe by training....
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KartikPrabhu
tantek does give a lot of useful feedback though ;)
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kylewm
hehe, he said Tom and Kartik aloud
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: where did you go!
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bear_
jeremy is now navigating on tantek's phone to his home page
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KevinMarks_
tantek hasn't got a phone
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aaronpk
found a stage light so he looks better on camera
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bret
aaronpk yes, I am thinking that I will implement a stupid git pull, add new file, commit, push endpoint instead of relying on the github api
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bear_
it's tantek's phone that jeremy is using
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tommorris
iPod touch iirc
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tommorris
hey KartikPrabhu
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aaronpk
bret: cool that makes sense
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KevinMarks_
overexposed
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KartikPrabhu
hello tommorris :)
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bear_
the display on the wall is of tantek's iphone - it has down the left side of icons, text message, fb, xmpp, gtalk
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bret
aaronpk I could add api support later
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bear_
the first icon is the text message one
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bear_
now he sent a message
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bear_
and we are waiting for it to appear on the ipod
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bear_
which it did
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aaronpk
there it is!
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bear_
\o/
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bret
but I'm just going to have the endpoint shell out to git via a library
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bear_
now he is going to the page and is going to click on fb_messenger
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KevinMarks_
that one stopped working on android
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bear_
now he is entering a message
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bear_
and it appeared
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bear_
now he is trying facetime
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bear_
it's a big jeremy!
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bear_
his ipod is receiving the facetime call
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aaronpk
feedback
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bear_
and the feedback tells us it is working!
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bear_
and now he is trying skype
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aaronpk
hi bret!
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bear_
and now he is trying twitter dm
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bret
hey aaronpk
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KevinMarks_
skype worked before
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bear_
he wasn't logged into skype
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KevinMarks_
ah
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KevinMarks_
copy/paste put in your userid means lots fo people will copy paste your address and use that
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KevinMarks_
hah
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KevinMarks_
sorry
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tantek_
Next up is Jeremy
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jeremyzilar
http://silencematters.com/2014/04/27/honoring-baseballs-hosiery-heritage-2/
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bret
bear can i join talky with just a mic?
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jeremyzilar
https://twitter.com/jeremyzilar/status/460539659060117505
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@jeremyzilar
Honoring Baseball's Hosiery Heritage http://silencematters.com/2014/04/27/honoring-baseballs-hosiery-heritage-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/460539659060117505)
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chloeweil
Jeremy is showing off web mentions on his domain
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chloeweil
If you fav a tweet they will show up on the post
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chloeweil
He also has POSSE to twitter working as well
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chloeweil
In summary: POSSE to twitter works, and webmentions too. He is curious about investigating Aaron's blog
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GWG
Investigating for?
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aaronpk
"What is p3k"? http://indiewebcamp.com/p3k
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Loqi
p is it
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bret
pk for parecki!
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bret
av is hard
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tantek
Chloe is up next!
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bret
:D
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tantek
she's is trying to liberate some intensely personal metadata that she's been tracking in iTunes since 2002
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tantek
like seasons she's listened to them
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tantek
wants to use subscription services
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bret
so rad! lost at data a number of times. total bummer
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tantek
wants to handle that metadata on her own
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tantek
rather than being tied to song files
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tantek
or iTunes metadata files
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KevinMarks_
do you use the itunes 'played' data? Or tag yourself?
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tantek
has built a dump of iTunes data
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tantek
into Mongo and Node
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tantek
collections are the seasons tagged to the songs
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tantek
every song, location of the file, and either edit it, or pull in the song from spotify or RDIO
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tantek
or even send play lists to spotify or rdio
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tantek
also has a list of seasons
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KevinMarks_
neat
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tantek
including a count of songs in that season
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tantek
e.g. Winter2007
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aaronpk
is this the URL she's talking about? http://chloeweil.com/summer/
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KevinMarks_
remembers scrobbling
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tantek
2003SUM for 2003 Summer
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KartikPrabhu
choelweil++ very neat idea!
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tantek
e.g. search Billy Idol
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Loqi
choelweil has 1 karma
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tantek
and then see seasons from that
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aaronpk
KevinMarks_: I still scrobble!!
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KartikPrabhu
chloeweil++
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Loqi
chloeweil has 1 karma
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KevinMarks_
chloeweil++
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Loqi
chloeweil has 2 karma
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tantek
so this is like an example of personal data liberation
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jeremyzilar
Really cool
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aaronpk
very cool. I want to do more of that with the music I listen to as well!
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KevinMarks_
http://www.last.fm/group/Does+It+Scrobble
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aaronpk
I have a note about hosting my own playlists https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k/issues/45
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aaronpk
KevinMarks_: I remember when hosting your own scrobbling server was a thing that was possible, cause all the clients let you define your own scrobble server URL
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KevinMarks_
looks like mine broke in 2011: http://www.last.fm/user/kevinmarks
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KevinMarks_
chloe is a bit far from the mic
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aaronpk
tantek: there will be a nice webcam waiting for you when you get home. that will help with future video calls. :)
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KevinMarks_
nice
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bret
want!
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bret
"get your rsvp in by ... to get a rad button
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bret
"
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barnabywalters
I don’t have anything to demo but I did ship this: https://github.com/taproot/subscriptions
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aaronpk
barnabywalters: whoa
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barnabywalters
very under-documented and under-tested at the moment, but it’s a good start
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aaronpk
I don't have anything to demo cause it looks exactly the same, but p3k now has a DB backend for rendering all the list views
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barnabywalters
aaronpk: you could demo paginating on tag pages :)
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bret
lol
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aaronpk
also I am working on adding good debugging/troubleshooting/error reporting to the indieauth client at http://client.indieauth.com/signin based on what I did with http://ownyourgram.com/
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KevinMarks_
NY involves massive pre-planning 'cos everyone has long commutes (In SF it's just me who has one)
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KevinMarks_
ftrain++
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Loqi
ftrain has 1 karma
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KevinMarks_
"About the author: I've been running this website from 1997." http://www.ftrain.com
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KevinMarks_
I've edited the wiki on android, I even uploaded a photo
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KevinMarks_
(It was hard)
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KevinMarks_
so he gets a lie-in?
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KevinMarks_
or we get up at 6am in portland?
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aaronpk
is lie-in some sort of british thing?
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aaronpk
bret you're like in some sort of hacker movie now
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KevinMarks_
OK
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bret
lol whut?
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aaronpk
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5457/14061745003_c525dce06b_o.png
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kbs
(bear_: one more webmention - with some signed-subcontent, hope this sparks some ideas vis-a-vis spam-proofing :)
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tantek_
good night all!
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Loqi
see you in the morning!
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barnabywalters
good night! thanks for running the remote participation!
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barnabywalters
it was easily the best yet
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kbs
also thanks everyone for pasting links and notes - wasn't able to remote connect, but great to follow on irc
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kylewm
good night tantek, safe travels
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kylewm
all
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kevinmarks.com
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kbs
kylewm: also sent a similar webmention to you - http://kylewm.com/article/2014/03/14/1/renaming-my-blog-engine-groomsman-to-red-wind one possibility vis-a-vis spam-reduction maybe?
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kylewm
ha, I love that your comment has a pgp signature, that would be a very effective way to reduce spam!
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aaronpk
not really. spammers can pgp sign stuff just as easily
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kbs
no, but the signature comes from my site
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kbs
theory being - verify signature from whitelist/originating site before acception I guess...
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kylewm
sure, the same is true for email, just having a signature isn't good enough
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kylewm
although the relevant xkcd contradicts me :)
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kylewm
so kbs, which section /exactly/ is signed?
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kbs
it's the bit between the --- PGP SIGNATURE -- section
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kbs
(from the command line at least- you should be able to just run gpg --verify file.html, etc...)
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kbs
anyway - this lets me host content anywhere convenient
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kbs
while still being able to let people know this was really "me" - link back to site, pubkey, etc.
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bear_
kbs - ooo - that does make me want to add pgp signature support - would be a great way to allow immediate comment posting
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kbs
ah, didn't think of that application - nice :)
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bear_
phew - I made the train! the traffic around timesquare was *intense*
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bret
aaronpk was thinking that @indiewebcamp should tweet all the group photos we take
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Loqi
[@CassPF] IndieWeb stuff http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ supports archival aims: simple permanent links
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Loqi
microformats, control of content. H/T @equivalentideas (http://twtr.io/khHNFwTSdx)
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bear.im
edited /2014/NYC (+34) "adding &yet to sponsor list" (view diff)
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bret
is IWC going to make it into the NYT?
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bear.im
edited /2014/NYC (+566) "first pass at adding demo'd info to event page" (view diff)
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bear.im
edited /2014/NYC (+60) "better name links" (view diff)
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bear.im
edited /2014/NYC (-5) "/* Demos */" (view diff)
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GWG
Are you guys still at the Times?
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GWG
tantek: Your favorite on Twitter came as a Like.
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tantek
good to know
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tantek
nope we cleared out when we said we were shutting down
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GWG
I was working
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GWG
I may have missed it
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GWG
How did it go today? Any new developments?
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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tantek
GWG - went great. Both Bear and JeremyZ made progress on showing webmentions on their sites!
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GWG
I think I could help JeremyZ because he uses the same backend
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tantek
I think he wants a facepile for likes like aaronpk has
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GWG
tantek: That was the feature I just deployed yesterday. I told him I could help him.
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GWG
I built it into the theme. I think he wants a plugin.
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GWG
It is probably doable as a plugin
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kylewm
what sets new ppl as "indie-visitor"
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kylewm
m
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kylewm
?
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GWG
Isn't it a web form on the wiki?
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: it is the web IRC from the wiki
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kylewm
ohhh
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GWG
kylewm: I was looking at your site.
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GWG
You keep your bio at the bottom.
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kylewm
GWG: I do...right now it is mostly there for mf2 parsers to read
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GWG
My next contemplation is the bio/h-card section of a site. Where people learn a little about you
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: fwiw I keep it in the /about page instead of homepage
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GWG
KartikPrabhu: I'm studying it
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KartikPrabhu
:)
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kylewm
!tell kbs ha, noticed your “kludgemention”. is the point of signing so i can recognize comments from known friends, when they're not posting on their site?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
kbs: kylewm left you a message 53 minutes ago: ha, noticed your “kludgemention”. is the point of signing so i can recognize comments from known friends, when they're not posting on their site?
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kbs
kylewm: tbh, mostly was a fun quick hack - but it might serve as an additional defence for identity-spoofing, hacked sites and (as you point out) if someone puts content outside their indieweb domain
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tantek.com
edited /2014/NYC (+340) "demos at start and at finish" (view diff)
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kbs
eg: identity-spoofing - (right now at least) you can see that most of the webmention implementations just use hcard info in the html to identify the poster, which is not so reliable and can be easily changed.
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tantek.com
edited /2014/NYC (+98) "add more sponsorships that we got! link Chloe" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /2014/NYC (+23) "move sponsors up higher, and push organizers section down to bottom" (view diff)
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rknLA
good evening
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GWG
Evening rknLA
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rknLA
how's things?
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GWG
Working on some things before bed
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rknLA
cool. whatcha workin on?
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GWG
A rundown for tomorrow...well, today now
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rknLA
heh, cool. have you been at the event inNYC?
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GWG
I was there, yes
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rknLA
reading back some of the logs.. looks like a good time
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GWG
I was only there one of the two days
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@timklapdor
Reading about POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere and getting a bit excited. Gamechanger! https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twtr.io/khagYFfo_8)
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@wraithgar
OH “Self sign your certs #indieweb” (twtr.io/khdJPXypAQ)
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