#indiewebcamp

2014-06-28

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@OnTheWebz
RT @t: made it to JFK and en route to Manhattan for pre #IndieWebCamp gatherings! blogging some thoughts on the ride over. (ttk.me t4Wo1) (twtr.io/nuQkyk4Zqx)
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brennannovak.com
edited /2014 (+10) "/* Sponsor */" (view diff)
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@Delverie
RT @kevinmarks: “The Web works best when we connect as… individuals in public space rather than customers in private space” #indieweb http:… (twtr.io/nub8gD0QPU)
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@TryEventifier
@indiewebcamp Here's the social media wall for #indiewebcamp, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indiewebcamp14/popular CC @ericholscher @peat @t Ty. (twtr.io/nucrjk3LTj)
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@downey
RT @ericholscher: I love the fact that Portland has hosted #adacamp > #osb14 > #indiewebcamp — Perfect example of why I love the PDX tech s… (twtr.io/nuewb5vf9b)
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@Greenqloud
ICYMI: building a #peertopeer #cloud with @BitTorrentSync and @Greenqloud is easy! #ownyourdata https://www.greenqloud.com/btsync-greenqloud/?utm_content=buffer9fcae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twtr.io/nugEK8caMc)
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@Alsinosko
@almereyda, super sorry but unfortunately won't be able to make it to indiewebcamp today. Want to meet next week instead? (twtr.io/nuhu_xderU)
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brennannovak.com
edited /2014/Guest_List (-9) "/* Farther East */" (view diff)
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@bl4cks1x
RT @Greenqloud: ICYMI: building a #peertopeer #cloud with @BitTorrentSync and @Greenqloud is easy! #ownyourdata https://www.greenqloud.com/btsync-greenqloud/?utm_content=buffer9fcae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (twtr.io/numhb15jfZ)
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bnvk
hello
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@davewiner
If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't fight it. ;-) (twtr.io/nuoyvPVowY)
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@nicolas2fr
#IndieWebCamp top floor virtually (at @AgoraCollective w/ @xtof_fr) http:///login?continue=%2Fnicolas2fr%2Fcheckin%2F53aeb0dd498e88d2ae8d6bee https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482858758163292160/photo/1 (twtr.io/nuoyx8dwhf)
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kylewm
afternoon bnvk, happy indiewebcamp day
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bnvk
kylewm: thanks, to you too- people are starting to show up here :)
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@brennannovak
Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V https://twitter.com/brennannovak/status/482860103109197824/photo/1 (twtr.io/nupTmkLMc4)
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KartikPrabhu
hey indiewebcamp! are you ready?
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Rev_Illo
yay
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KartikPrabhu
looking at schedule, is East starting at 9 EDT?
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@jancborchardt
RT @brennannovak: Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V http://t.co/… (twtr.io/nuqz7oYtkb)
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@lowfill_devel
We are near to start the #indieweb camp in Berlin! (twtr.io/nur5pxmFpL)
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@Johannes_Ernst
#indieweb, I must like you. 5:30am SFO http://upon2020.com/banter/?p=326 (twtr.io/nurH60o8Ex)
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@edverillo
RT @nicolas2fr: #IndieWebCamp top floor virtually (at @AgoraCollective w/ @xtof_fr) http:///login?continue=%2Fnicolas2fr%2Fcheckin%2F53aeb0dd498e88d2ae8d6bee https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482858758163292160/photo/1 (twtr.io/nurN20vXyw)
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GWG
On my way to Indiewebcamp
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@lowfill
Near to start the #indieweb camp in Berlin! :D (twtr.io/nusUPKV5zU)
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tantek.com
edited /2014/Schedule (+13) "NYC 9:30am start" (view diff)
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@hugoroyd
@davewiner Why don't you come to @indiewebcamp ? :-) lots of bloggers there! (twtr.io/nusbn4ymYY)
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@jalbertbowdenii
@davewiner is there an anti-rss presence there? that sounds very unweb. @indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nusi1_xa_Q)
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tantek.com
edited /2014/Schedule (+36) "move NYC intros/demos earlier - no need to sync that with PDX. and do hack time / PDX demo watching in NYC while they're at it" (view diff)
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@davidmead
RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twtr.io/nutABeaYZ4)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@lowfill
Taking a sneak peak in the #indieweb generations roadmap. It looks cool. https://twitter.com/lowfill/status/482873825605189632/photo/1 (twtr.io/nuuMtzuPnC)
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@nicolas2fr
#indieweb generation via @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482874161959018496/photo/1 (twtr.io/nuuV6Z82uw)
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indie-visitor
How does one get into the nyt?
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tantek.com
edited /2014/Schedule (+34) "note breakfast & coffee in room at NYT, bump NYC intro/demos to 11 so early PDX folks maybe can watch" (view diff)
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deiu
Hi! o/
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sandro
hey!
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bnvk
Follow along with the Berlin meetup here http://bnvk.me/h1V
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@nicolas2fr
RT @indiewebcamp: The 4th annual #IndieWebCamp is in 5 weeks & bicoastal (PDX & NYC) http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 Sign-up! http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twtr.io/nuwt8H8G00)
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@brennannovak
Doing a demo of POSSE from my #IndieWeb site for Berlin camp! http://bnvk.me/NMp (twtr.io/nuxDRkJiV4)
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bear_
please don't twitter this link but it is ok to share for folks at IWC
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@nicolas2fr
RT @brennannovak: Doing a demo of POSSE from my #IndieWeb site for Berlin camp! http://bnvk.me/NMp (twtr.io/nuxHcwZEEQ)
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bear_
https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc
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Loqi
tantek: bret left you a message 8 hours, 30 minutes ago: good luck tantek
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Loqi
tantek: KartikPrabhu left you a message 8 hours, 22 minutes ago: if you are an early riser I'd be up for a breakfast gathering somewhere. Sorry on bailing on the post-midnight pre-party! too tired from the flight
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Loqi
jeremyzilar: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 6/19 at 8:30am: any possibility of getting the people behind this: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/20/business/media/new-york-times-and-washington-post-to-develop-platform-for-readers-contributions.html interested in the indieweb and indiewebcamp?
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Loqi
jeremyzilar: tantek left you a message on 6/24 at 1:20pm: do you have any preference/plans for IndieWebCamp East pre-party this Friday night?
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jeremyzilar
Hello friends
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tantek
we're working on various talky / IRC setups here at NYTimes
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indie-visitor
test!
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indie-visitor
\nick Kartik
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indie-visitor
does "nick" not work
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Kartik
woohoo!
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tantek
welcome Kartik!
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jeremyzilar
I am here!
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@bridgetstewart
RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twtr.io/nuzK4nkbRc)
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GWG
.names
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GWG
NAMES -YES
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GWG
ls
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GWG
This is confusing me
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GWG
I need someone to type something
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rascul
something
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GWG
Still having trouble
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rascul
with what?
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GWG
Text based IRC client
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bear_
woo text clients
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rascul
weechat!
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tantek
anybody from Berlin in the house?
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GWG
Text based IRC...fun
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Kartik
it has begun!
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bear_
tantek is giving the "Welcome to IndieWebCamp" talk
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jeremyzilar
NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC NYC
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bear_
he is now showing the IWC Video
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jeremyzilar
Looking at and talking about Google Domains — http://domains.google.com/about/
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tantek.com
created /Introduction (+31) "r" (view diff)
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Kartik
East-side is the best!
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david.shanske.com
edited /web_hosting (+135) "/* Virtual Private Server */" (view diff)
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bear_
thanks GWG!
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GWG
does what Tantek requests
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bear_
:)
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GWG
East Side West Side all around the town...the tots played ring a rosie, London Bridge is falling down. Boys and girls together, me and Mamie O'Rourke, tripped the light fantastic on the...Sidewalks of New York.
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GWG
Yes...being random
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Kartik
tantek uses fingers to point on screen :P
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@_mvkk
@davewiner Many interested in latest on microformats, With your embracing twitter/fb, @indiewebcamp our last bastion working against silos. (twtr.io/nv1aYNhHxL)
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GWG
Laser pointer fail
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bnvk
tantek: yes we iz here
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bnvk
on a brief break
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bnvk
tantek: how's it going in NYC? Do you have a video stream?
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bear_
https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc
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bnvk
sweet
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bear_
please use chrome to connect to that
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bear_
it doesn't like the latest FF for some reason
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bnvk
bear: I think I'm the only one there
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bear_
let me refresh
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GWG
is listening intently
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bear_
bnvk i'm going to switch to https://talky.io/iwc_nyc as a test
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kartikprabhu.com
edited /User:Kartikprabhu.com (+105) "/* Itching */ adding to itches while tantek talks about it" (view diff)
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bear_
the firewalls may be blocking us today
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bnvk
hrm ok
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bear_
yea, i'm not seeing any activity on both talky servers
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bear_
between us
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bnvk
aw
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Kartik
I ma on the talky too but it looks only me
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GWG
That is why I'm shelling into my server in Buffalo
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aaronpk
good morning!
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GWG
Good morning, aaronpk
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aaronpk
uhoh, firewall at NYT foiling our talky plans?
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bear_
aaronpk - yes - try https://talky.io/iwc_nyc
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GWG
aaronpk, apparently.
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aaronpk
is it anything some SSH tunnels can fix?
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bear_
I pinged the dev - he is checking the turn server setup for indieweb.talky.io
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GWG
SSH is open But Bear is the one who would know that
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bear_
it would require a crap load of ports to tunnel
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@hellekin
Reading through http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths reminds me how urgent it is that people take control of their communications infrastructure. (twtr.io/nv4UERPWmQ)
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@VibeOuthh
We support and show loving to the Independent Artist.Hit us up if want your work showcased #teamfollobwack #indieweb #POETHEME #teamvibeout (twtr.io/nv4Xrg5rnC)
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@MarioVilas
RT @hellekin: Reading through http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths reminds me how urgent it is that people take control of their communications infrastru… (twtr.io/nv4rptbKuf)
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Rev_Illo
Nice intro in Berlin, I wish I could have stayed longer
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@WordPressTrends
WebMention #WordPress #WP #Plugin http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv5FSnZ7C0)
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sandro
URL for bridgie?
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aaronpk
http://brid.gy
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sandro
merci
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bear_
k, so the dev reports that we have found a bug with the bridge version of talky dealing with turn/tcp tunnels
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tantek.com
edited /2014/Introductions (+160) "Overview of IndieWebCamp Two Days" (view diff)
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aaronpk
bear_: yay real world testing :)
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Loqi
woot
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bear_
yep
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@edelwax
Hey #indieweb, d'ya think solving indie distribution might be more about labeling links and apps differently? http://nxhx.org/InformedChoice/ (twtr.io/nv5XFaBjvU)
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tantek
what is im?
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bnvk
tantek: that guy who just tweeted that showed up
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bnvk
he said he knows you
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bnvk
thinks our approach to everything is wrong...
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tantek
bnvk - URL? ;)
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tantek
bnvk - he's welcome to take his own approach on his own website! :)
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bnvk
https://twitter.com/edelwax/status/482905055256137728
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@edelwax
Hey #indieweb, d'ya think solving indie distribution might be more about labeling links and apps differently? http://nxhx.org/InformedChoice/ (twtr.io/nv5XFaBjvU)
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@WP_Virus
WebMention #fFREE #WordPress #Plugins http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv5kcJioQ_)
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@WP_Tools
WebMention #wp #wordpress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv5mGzhZXj)
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tantek
NYC: tantek demonstrated, notes, replies, POSSE, blog posts, post to post sequential navigation
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tantek
NYC: jeremyzilar demonstrated POSSE, backfeed via Bridgy from multiple POSSE copies!
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tantek
NYC: bear showed bear.im - will be working on fixing his webmentions! and then working on webactions.
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jonnybarnes
anyone else here use Firefox Aurora on OSX? Aurora is crashing constantly for me
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tantek.com
created /im (+80) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek
jonnybarnes: using beta here
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@TopSEOWordPress
WebMention #wordpress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv60K1Ks28)
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jonnybarnes
tantek: I've dropped down to Firefox Stable for now
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@RT_WordPress
WebMention #wp http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv64k4vnLY)
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@Think_Wordpress
WebMention #WordPress http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv663ur12w)
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tantek
NYC: Sandro gives overview of Crosscloud
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows deui.rww.io for his personal site
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@WordPress_News_
#wp WebMention #plugins http://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/#post-59811 (twtr.io/nv6SYvd31M)
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tantek
NYC: Andrei RSVPd with Fcns.eu
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tantek
NYC: Andrei was easier to put a rel=me on my blog than on my server deui.rww.io
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - this is a data CMS written in PHP
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - LDPHP is the name of the data CMS
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - LDPHP is on github
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - org on github.com/linkeddata where it is
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sandro
https://github.com/linkeddata
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows hierarchy of files of data on his site
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@campatterson
We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #investing @IndieCanEnt (twtr.io/nv6jqkuy3k)
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tantek
e.g. deiu.rww.io/shared/mb
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GWG
eats a bagel
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tantek
(aside, everyone else, bnvk et al, we are doing demos in NYC now: talky.io/iwc_nyc )
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tantek
NYC: Andrei shows cimba.co which is a Tweetdeck-like client that is a reader for the data that Andrei publishes on his own server
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - my identity is deiu.rww.io/profile/card
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tantek
NYC: Sandro - we have a debate of whether domain or a domain+path is your identity
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tantek
NYC: Sandro - I also have sandro.rww.io - because Andrei has given me space on his server
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows logging in with his WebID
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - into cimba.co
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - from that the app goes and discovers everyone he follows
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@kyle_wm
Landed at PDX, on to IndieWebCamp! (twtr.io/nv7HBGMr_R)
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tantek
(aside: bnvk - that "InformedChoice" blog post doesn't actually follow its own advice - it's not labeled with its own costs of reading etc. as the screenshots in the post say people should)
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tantek
(aside: bnvk - if the author of that posts disagrees with "our" approach (of which there are several) then push him to selfdogfood his own advice first)
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@Strange_Tea
RT @campatterson: We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #invest… (twtr.io/nv7ZKVmLeX)
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows deui.rww.io/apps/cal/index.html
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jonnybarnes
what is WebID
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tantek
jonnybarnes: first time anyone has mentioned or shown it at an IndieWebCamp
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jonnybarnes
no loqi response, I assume theres no wiki article in webid
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Loqi
dude
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - thus my server can also hope the app files, the HTML, CSS, JS
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - instead of just cimba.co
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GWG
Good morning, KevinMarks_
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - this way I can host my own apps on my own domain
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - this is calendar I use - on my own domain
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - the UI is some calendar javascript something I found on github
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sandro
jonnybarnes, WebID is two different things: (1) the idea of using a URL to identify a persona, (2) WebID-TLS uses self-signed client TLS certificates to proved to another server that WebID is you
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jonnybarnes
sandro: kind of like startssl.com uses self-signed certificates instead of passwords?
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows moving an event, with browser traffic debug tab showing PUTs to his personal domain
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jeremyzilar
Andrei's calendar is really cool. @bear seconds that.
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tantek
sandro - could you start an indiewebcamp.com/WebID stub that just has that summary you just typed in IRC and links to the broader description / effort?
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sandro
jonnybarnes, probably, althought I'm not familiar with that. The big difference is that you can login ANYWHERE with it, not just the site that issued the cert, because your public key is at your URL.
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bear_
can someone remote go to http://indieweb.talky.io/nyc and see if I fixed things
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achangeiscoming.net
created /User:Achangeiscoming.net (+167) "Created page with "[http://achangeiscoming.net Jon Pincus] is a software engineer / entrepreneur / strategist, currently developing the open-source social network platform TapestryMaker."" (view diff)
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@peat
Except lots of rooms. #indiewebcamp @BoredElonMusk: A 24 hackathon focused on developing solutions for getting out of a large locked room. (twtr.io/nv8JyVRuzD)
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tantek
NYC: Andrei shows clicking on a permalink in cimba.co goes to the original on his own domain which displays the data as HTML
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tantek
NYC: Andrei - shows cimba.co viewing posts from others also, e.g. Joe has presbrey.data.fm
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sandro
http://presbrey.data.fm/
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tantek
both rww.io and data.fm run LDPHP software
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tantek
NYC: Sandro - currently that's the only software but there are others writing additional servers
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jancborchardt
Berlin: Hey from Berlin
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jancborchardt
:)
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pfefferle
gogogo GWG :)
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pfefferle
mic doesn’t work
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pfefferle
sorry
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pfefferle
yes
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tantek
welcome!
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Kartik
hello!
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KevinMarks_
bear_: trying https://indieweb.talky.io/nyc says mic doesn't work, only shows me
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tantek
NYC: GWG shows david.shanske.com
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tantek
… running WordPress
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deiu
s/deui.rww.io/deiu.rww.io/g
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tantek
… was working on in test mode, and debuted shortly after the indiewebcamp NYC in April
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bear_
KevinMarks_ yes - we are tracking down a bug with the new version of talky
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tantek
… shows footer of his posts, footer has icons to the POSSE copies by silo
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bear_
so use the older one: https://talky.io/iwc_nyc
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tantek
… comments link shows existing comments - via other sites and webmention
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@billywwells
New Billy Wells Horror Book Trailer! https://www.youtube.com/ #horror #kindle #zombies #ebooks #scarystoriestime #amazon #indieweb (twtr.io/nvALYJ7kCZ)
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tantek
… shows facepile of likes
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tantek
… on a particular post
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tantek
… UI to click through to respond via any POSSE copy, or webmention
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tantek
… shows his reply context
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tantek
… on individual replies and on replies in his composite stream
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tantek
… uses a medium light gray background on the reply context
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KevinMarks_
aha that works
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KevinMarks_
I am going to have to hang up though as it is my wife's birthday and we're goign out
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KevinMarks_
have fun all
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bear_
I do want to thank the IndieWeb community for being such a diverse networking environment that we (&yet) are getting some *great* tests for this
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tantek
KevinMarks: good to see you and have fun!
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deiu
wonders if anyone else with OCD is annoyed by that "You got 1 update" in GWG's wordpress...
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tantek
NYC: GWG shows github.com/dshanske with all the plugins for the stuff he demo'd and in-progress like getting location for a post!
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pfefferle
GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 10 karma
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bear_
GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 11 karma
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fcns.eu
edited /IRC_People (+49) "Added deiu" (view diff)
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pfefferle
without th
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GWG
I'll fix the update
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tantek
NYC: Kartik demonstrates kartikprabhu.com
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pfefferle
GWG is something broken?
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tantek
… has notes working
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tantek
…. can post replies too
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GWG
pfefferle: NO, someone was annoyed by the Red 1 indicating a pending update
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tantek
… only shows "reply to URL" - wants to expand that
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tantek
… also gets replies back from Twitter.
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tantek
… also not pro-comment form
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tantek
… only has a "send webmention link" form
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GWG
Again, Kartik talked me into removing the comment form
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tantek
… shows replies to his /article/indieweb-love-blog
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tantek
… is using the python microformats parser
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tantek
… drove him to add backcompat microformats parsing
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tantek
… also has a facepile
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tantek
… of favorites from Twitter
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tantek
… Twitter breaks icon links when people change the icon
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tantek
… facepiles of mentions
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tantek
… of reposts (retweets?)
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tantek
… of likes (integrated across twitter favorites, google+ +1s, facebook likes)
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tantek
… all of which are shown uniform
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tantek
… sometimes gets multiple icons for same person because link is liked on multiple posts
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deiu
will create a "facepalm" avatar for facepile :)
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GWG
pfefferle: Would you consider functions in Semantic Linkbacks to simplify element retrieval?
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tantek
NYC: Kartik this is an article that will go live in the future
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pfefferle
GWG what do you mean by that?
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tantek
… if I want to post a draft to edit, I put it in the future
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tantek
… tantek's idea
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GWG
I was looking at some of the presentations where it shows mention count by type
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tantek
… I know the URL
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tantek
… so I can send it to people to comment on
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GWG
That would make a good function in the plugin to call
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tantek
… shows all the comments looking the same
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tantek
… on the marginalia article
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tantek
… comments using fragmentions
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pfefferle
GWG ah ok… like get all likes, replys or …
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pfefferle
GWG or count likes, replys, ...
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GWG
pfefferle: Yes.
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tantek
… briefly explains fragmentions
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tantek
… shows paragraph level notes
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GWG
pfefferle: Simple function, but saves time for third-parties
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tantek
… paragraph level comments
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pfefferle
GWG sure! good idea! will you file an issue for that please?
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tantek
… paragraphs with comments have a (show) button
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GWG
pfefferle: Will do. May write it up later. Listening to Kartik
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tantek
… clicking the show button shows a sidebar with the comments on fragmentions in that paragraph
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tantek
… all works with webmentions
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tantek
… webmention to the fragmention
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tantek
… rather than just the permalink to the post
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tantek
… server then saves it
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tantek
… and shows it as a normal reply on the post
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tantek
… all of the side comments appear below, even if you don't have js turned on
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tantek
… and this is where the in-reply-to to the fragmention works
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pfefferle
GWG: btw https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention-for-comments
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tantek
… unlike in Medium where it requires JS to see any comments
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JonathanNeal
That’s a nice summary, tantek.
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GWG
pfefferle: Look at the Indieweb Taxonomy plugin I wrote, a file called kind-functions.php. That is what I'll be writing up as the Issue.
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GWG
pfefferle: I wrote all these functions that work like the built-in Wordpress ones, by design
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@nopolabs
RT @davewiner: If you're going to @indiewebcamp today, please tell them that RSS is a good thing for independence, and please use it, don't… (twtr.io/nvDG_TMxL1)
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pfefferle
GWG cool, will have a look
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GWG
pfefferle: I'll write a very long proposal when I can focus with a copy of the codex.
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pfefferle
Enjoy your meal
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tantek
NYC going to lunch!
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tantek
we'll leave the webcam on
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tantek
let us know if anyone takes anything ;)
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pfefferle
see you later
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pfefferle
watching iwc and soccer
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jden
good morning fine indiewebians
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peat
Gooooooood morning.
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@kevinmarks
@davewiner @indiewebcamp @nopolabs if you want to contribute to http://indiewebcamp.com/rss you're very welcome (twtr.io/nvEAkz8C9c)
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@_jden
Hanging out today with all of the #indiewebcamp folks at @EsriPDX (twtr.io/nvEMFhpVjY)
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@eventifierapp
@indiewebcamp Here's the social media wall for #indiewebcamp, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indiewebcamp14/popular?utm_content=bufferaa531&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer CC @ericholscher @peat @t Ty.  (twtr.io/nvF_ych2f1)
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@benwerd
Catching up with folks at #indiewebcamp at @esripdx. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482933272041631744/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvFb2bHvV4)
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bnvk
Berlin is signing off for dinner for a lil bit!
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benwerd
Enjoy!
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@benwerd
@eventifierapp It would be nifty if you could listen to our personal pages to curate rather than just using social media silos? #indieweb (twtr.io/nvFtLUSbaD)
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aaronpk
bear: should I use talky.io or our special one?
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aaronpk
we're about to kick off
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@jen080808
RT @campatterson: We're over the $7000 Mark. Check it out. Pass it@along https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/intersection--2 #filmmaking #indieweb #indiefilm #invest… (twtr.io/nvG9FY93_Q)
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iamshane.com
edited /schedule (-10) "updated /schedule redirect" (view diff)
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donpdonp
is there a livestream?
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donpdonp
is stuck at home
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aaronpk
donpdonp: yes! in a minute
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@Xangis
Brace yourself. #IndieWebCamp is firing up. (twtr.io/nvGUuiXJFU)
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aaronpk
donpdonp: http://talky.io/iwc but make sure to mute and pause your video when you join
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donpdonp
ok. i found mute.
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@ungoldman
Going full #IndieWebCamp today at @EsriPDX 🚀💾👾 (twtr.io/nvGgKJg6GZ)
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donpdonp
not sure about pause but the lander game is cute
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@benwerd
Awesome! @aaronpk starts us off with a video. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482936903390334976/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvGtsYxUbG)
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@benwerd
An intro to the #indieweb from @caseorganic. https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482937144575418368/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvGz2hv568)
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donpdonp
i seem to be the only one in that room
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aaronpk
nyc is at lunch
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donpdonp
what about pdx
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@_jden
Why indieweb? why host your own content? http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twtr.io/nvHB65sR1s)
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aaronpk
everyone is here
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@veganstraightedge
#indiewebcamp 2014 Portland is a go for launch. (twtr.io/nvHBbw5ZwH)
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aaronpk
like... in person :)
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donpdonp
ok i was hoping to watch those demos
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@jlsuttles
The transient nature of the web documented and maintained by @caseorganic http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvHCeFMyUG)
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aaronpk
oh you don't see the livestream?
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aaronpk
it should be going
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donpdonp
it says play this game til others arrive
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aaronpk
try reloading, i just reloaded ours
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kylewm
is that you donpdonp?
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kylewm
my other t-shirt?
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donpdonp
kylewm: probably, was that you?
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donpdonp
yup. hi ericholscher
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ericholscher
odd
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ericholscher
on the same URL as the one on the big screen
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aaronpk
try http://indieweb.talky.io/iwc
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aaronpk
don't join from here guys lol
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kylewm
hey we can see you donpdonp
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donpdonp
hey i see amber
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donpdonp
no audio
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aaronpk
that's distracting. turning that tv off here, stream should be going
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donpdonp
is the tv off? was i on the big screen?
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ericholscher
ya
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donpdonp
ok reconnecting
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kylewm
it's off now
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jden
can someone /msg me the wifi pw
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GWG
kylewm: They are?
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donpdonp
i can see the video again, still no audio :(
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jden
got it ty
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pfefferle
sound is not working on the portland stream
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donpdonp
i see nyc
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donpdonp
and some guy eating breakfast
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ericholscher
is it muted?
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aaronparecki.com
edited /2014 (+28) "/* Sponsor */ saturday dinner sponsored by esri!" (view diff)
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bret
hey everyone!
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jden
btw i want to visit iceland, lmk
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aaronpk
it's not muted, now chrome is crashing :(
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bret
aaronpk: where is the wirelss adapter/bridge that emmak can use?
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aaronpk
right now it's plugged into the indiebox up here
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donpdonp
NYC: i can hear you fine
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Kartik
aaronpk: refresh the indieweb talky window
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aaronpk
try http://talky.io/iwc again the other one was crashing chrome
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@benwerd
The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twtr.io/nvJ1H68000)
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Loqi
[mention] http://werd.io/2014/the-many-generations-of-indieweb-lots-of-people-are-joining linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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donpdonp
NYC: hello, yes i saw your mug.
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aaronpk
actually nvm stay on the indieweb one, I just relaunched chrome after it updated itself
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donpdonp
PDX audio is working
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aaronpk
yaaayyy
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donpdonp
but i cant mute anyone else
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aaronpk
*whew*
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aaronpk
everyone else plz mute yourselves!
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GWG
You don't like us?
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@_jden
So what is this whole indieweb thing, anyway? http://dangillmor.com/2014/04/25/indie-web-important/ (twtr.io/nvJ8Y4NeMb)
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donpdonp
great. nyc is muted. pdx has working audio and video
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GWG
pfefferle: Issues filed. More function ideas coming
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@veganstraightedge
RT @benwerd: The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twtr.io/nvJGjE3aAx)
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@jlsuttles
RT @benwerd: The many generations of #indieweb. Lots of people are joining generation 2 now: http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (twtr.io/nvJJJKYRxL)
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donpdonp
mic pickup is low, and audio compression is high.
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bret
donpdonp: are you watching right now?
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donpdonp
bret: affirmative
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bret
can't hear?
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@veganstraightedge
The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twtr.io/nvJR_hYyTC)
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donpdonp
bret: i think i can see you
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bret
:D
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donpdonp
bret: the audio is as good as can be expected
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bret
ok :(
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donpdonp
with a teenty tiny mic 15 feet from aaronpk
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bret
I can go home and get a better mic
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benwerd
I think for now let's encourage everyone to project
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@caseorganic
Old HTML works on the web but there's a lot of newer things like XML that don't always work. #indiewebcamp http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvJYTp4NUG)
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@jlsuttles
RT @veganstraightedge: The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twtr.io/nvJgRHxibY)
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@benwerd
And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twtr.io/nvJurpRP7k)
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pfefferle
GWG cool thanks
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Loqi
[mention] http://werd.io/2014/and-of-course-like-all-good-events-indiewebcamp-has-a linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@veganstraightedge
RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twtr.io/nvJvNp1XXD)
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@jlsuttles
RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twtr.io/nvJw8THwgb)
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aaronpk
demos starting!
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@caseorganic
Showing #indiewebcamp posting to Twitter from http://caseorganic.com #posse Hello! (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/2/indiewebcamp-posse) (twtr.io/nvK3Jnq25t)
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bear_
aaronpk - can you switch to old talky - the new version is not working properly
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aaronpk
bear_: yeah, at http://talky.io/iwc now
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@jdp23
RT @benwerd: And of course, like all good events, #indiewebcamp has a solid code of conduct. http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (twtr.io/nvK9UJREEQ)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/482942607790596096 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/482940842538045440 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/482940769372614657 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/482942572302569473 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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aaronpk
sorry you guys can't see the screen in NYC
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pfefferle
tantek you are not muted
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GWG
Oh, well...
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GWG
Just pushed a fix for one of those debug errors
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Kartik
aaronpk: yeah screen would be nice
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@benwerd
Really excited to be demoing Known at #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvKdRiNrej)
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@erinjo
Showing off Known at IndieWebCamp https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482944690698719232/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvKfn5X6TC)
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pfefferle
can someone of the New Yorkers mute the client?
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Loqi
[mention] http://werd.io/2014/im-actually-here linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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bear_
it should be muted
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donpdonp
there is an echo from somewhere
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pfefferle
yes!
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pfefferle
please NYC press mute
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pfefferle
thanks
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pfefferle
:)
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bear_
I just toggled it
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bear_
sorry - was hard to see - the beard got in the way
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@benwerd
Hello world from #indiewebcamp http://werd.io/2014/hello-world-from-indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvKx34bLZ4)
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@caseorganic
@benwerd This is awesome! The world says hello back! #indiewebcamp (http://caseorganic.com/replies/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp) (twtr.io/nvL2PTr2y9)
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pfefferle
bear_ :)
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@dylan20
RT @kevinmarks: My guest appearance on the "What To Think" podcast with @jolieodell and @dylan20, talking Procrustes and #Indieweb http://t… (twtr.io/nvL4romPrU)
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Kartik
benwerd: nice chicken!
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Kartik
awesome sound upload demo by benwerd
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@caseorganic
@benwerd Chicken chicken chicken? #indiewebcamp (http://caseorganic.com/replies/2014/06/28/2/indiewebcamp) (twtr.io/nvLBCeJxGq)
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aaronpk
taking notes here! feel free to add https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp
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@benwerd
Super-cool. @johannes_ernst shows off his swimming pool's indie website. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947198355648513/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvL_XxZvgt)
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bret
Ward C. Are you in IRC?
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@benwerd
Watching @WardCunningham demonstrate federated wikis! #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947392379949057/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvLdgU__jH)
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orchard.roaming-initiative.com
edited /2014/Guest_List (+467) "/* West */ Added Philip Horger to the end" (view diff)
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@benwerd
Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvLqZuZDEf)
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caseorganic
Johannes:" this is how i want the indieweb to work. you bring your own hardware and it just works. it runs independently of what technology you use"
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Loqi
gives caseorganic the indieweb to work
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@Johannes_Ernst
RT @benwerd: Super-cool. @johannes_ernst shows off his swimming pool's indie website. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947198355648513/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMGhm_wVs)
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@Johannes_Ernst
RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMHPdS9RL)
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KartikPrabhu
go kylewm!
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@indieboxproject
RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvML8vtb00)
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@indiecomputing
RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMMJVod2h)
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GWG
kylewm: How long before it works for me?
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/2788841 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@kyle_wm
Demoing posse-post-discovery at #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvM_40zpgL)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/14200773 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@benwerd
Now @kyle_wm is demoing https://www.brid.gy/ and its awesome post discovery feature. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950288714633216/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMfmBBT0G)
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@_jden
.@aaronpk demoing signin via GPG with indieauth #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvMuvDEk7C)
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@benwerd
Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMvDPCtUY)
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@_jden
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvMw4YEVFj)
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kylewm
thanks KartikPrabhu ;)
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kylewm
GWG: posse-discovery doesnt work for you? I didn't know!
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GWG
kylewm: Only with Facebook.
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@marshallk
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvN7D3q2f0)
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bear_
IndieAuth GPG login - https://indieauth.com/gpg
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kylewm
GWG: it only works with facebook or it only doesn't work with facebook?
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@benwerd
"Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482951994655535104/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvNHL2Rzk4)
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bear_
https://github.com/homesteading/homesteading-article/issues/4
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kylewm
readthedocs++
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Loqi
readthedocs has 1 karma
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@veganstraightedge
RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twtr.io/nvNLQNfP2R)
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@veganstraightedge
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvNNhb6A3j)
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@veganstraightedge
RT @caseorganic: Old HTML works on the web but there's a lot of newer things like XML that don't always work. #indiewebcamp http://t.co/KI… (twtr.io/nvNQQATvE9)
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@jlsuttles
RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twtr.io/nvNQkCdSqf)
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@CaptainKurtis
@caseorganic @benwerd Man, I wish I was at #indiewebcamp playing with chickens right now. (twtr.io/nvNWNsoiE9)
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@veganstraightedge
Here's a photo of us at #indiewebcamp and me being a goof. http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/28/3/indiewebcamp /by @caseorganic (twtr.io/nvNXKb96h8)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/853821 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482942548202123265/853821 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/code-of-conduct (webmention)
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@benwerd
I love @readthedocs. @ericholscher demos federated documentation search #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482952799630544896/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvN_aEh98G)
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@CaptainKurtis
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvNc_yXhDM)
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bear_
is Jason showing a URL?
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@kyle_wm
Thanks @benwerd for livestreaming indieweb demos in @kevinmarks’ absence! (twtr.io/nvNjKxgPyw)
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xangis
http://wbsrch.com
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@CaptainKurtis
RT @benwerd: Watching @WardCunningham demonstrate federated wikis! #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947392379949057/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvNnqrSpAQ)
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bear_
thanks xangis
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xangis
yw
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@jlsuttles
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvNpe5AUZ4)
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@benwerd
I failed to take photos, but @JonPicus demoed his social network, and https://wbsrch.com/ is an indie search engine! #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvNsCeNaj0)
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@kyle_wm
Thanks @benwerd for livetweeting indieweb demos in @kevinmarks’s absence! (twtr.io/nvNt1WCdBC)
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bear_
who is the speaker and the url?
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deiu
aaronpk: is the gpg code for indieauth on github?
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shaners
paulmunday.net i think
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shaners
yeah. that's right
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GWG
pfefferle: Have a look at https://github.com/dshanske/semantic-comments/commit/5497aee2252567a498f2bb4c7a88b45732642c4e
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bear_
thanks shaners
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aaronpk
deiu: yep it's here https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth
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donpdonp
https://indieauth.com/gpg
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donpdonp
<link rel="pgpkey" href="/key.pub">
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donpdonp
awesome!
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@t
IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twtr.io/nvP75TgZWg)
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@timmmmyboy
Loving all the great stuff in the #indiewebcamp stream today. Wish I could have somehow been in Portland this weekend. (twtr.io/nvP8NfZ6Zd)
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@benwerd
Paul Monday publishes his first indieweb post to http://paulmunday.net #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482954593047830528/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvPD1aexN8)
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@znmeb
@RachelShadoan I wonder if this is under discussion at #indiewebcamp. I couldn't make it this year. // @benwerd (twtr.io/nvPHDKgS6x)
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@alevin
at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twtr.io/nvPLx_8yJf)
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@benwerd
@znmeb @rachelshadoan We're all working on this problem at #indiewebcamp. I'm releasing this in July: http://withknown.com (twtr.io/nvPMNmp7ZM)
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@gcarothers
RT @t: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twtr.io/nvPTsueaFD)
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@znmeb
I can't be at #indiewebcamp this year but it seems to me Facebook manipulating 690K users' news feeds should be noted. (twtr.io/nvPW6W8uKj)
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@znmeb
RT @benwerd: @znmeb @rachelshadoan We're all working on this problem at #indiewebcamp. I'm releasing this in July: http://withknown.com (twtr.io/nvPY54vhnU)
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@timmmmyboy
RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twtr.io/nvPYLnfZmf)
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@tomwiththeweath
RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twtr.io/nvPh1bbzoG)
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Loqi
[mention] http://indieboxproject.org/blog/2014/06/demoing-at-indie-web-camp/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (pingback)
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@destinyb47546
RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twtr.io/nvQ5hg3K2R)
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bear_
is someone going to put the session schedule on the etherpad
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@johnbender
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvQB1wLPxs)
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@benwerd
The schedule for today. Indie Yo, anyone? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482957481916649474/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvQEwhCdBE)
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donpdonp
GPG indieauth signin success.
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@CaptainKurtis
RT @withknown: Gathering content in a space you control: doubling down on #indieweb & journalism. http://werd.io/2014/gathering-content-in-a-space-you-control-doubling-down-on (twtr.io/nvQU46P0q8)
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@marshallk
RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twtr.io/nvQYP2n6x4)
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@anomalily
Responsible decision time: do I edit the podcast and do laundry before the Bike Fair or do I head down to #indiewebcamp? cc: @ambercase (twtr.io/nvQ_6HnxwH)
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@kencf0618
RT @benwerd: Neat! IndieAuth now lets you auth using your GPG key. @aaronpk demos at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482950963049664512/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvQbqYnbPU)
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@holden
At #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/holden/status/482959013097639936/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvQnkotX5b)
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bear_
someone in portland poke the talky laptop - it seems to have gone to sleep
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@CaptainKurtis
Can @withknown be run on a Tor Hidden Service and still communicate with silo sites? #indiewebcamp #encrytion @torproject (twtr.io/nvQuzNJvvj)
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@EdgarsLabRat
[moz] Tantek Çelik: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twtr.io/nvQyXV_4Ww)
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@planetmozilla
Tantek Çelik: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twtr.io/nvR3i6HVTU)
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bear_
benward_ - did you lose network?
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jeremyzilar
WE are off to take an IWC photo
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@_jden
My session on #indieYO got scheduled for 5pm :) #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvRWwfH3Rs)
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bear_
is anyone from Portland online?
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dreeves
affirmative
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benwerd_
yo
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bear_
talky is offline
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benwerd_
http://talky.io/picard ?
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bear_
ah - room names
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benwerd_
we've split into groups
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benwerd_
yes
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bear_
do we have the schedule for groups?
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benwerd_
picard, kirk, spock, riker
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benwerd_
I posted it but I think it's blurry
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benwerd_
I can retake
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@benwerd
Greetings from #indiewebcamp NY at the @NYTimes https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482961751256731648/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvRmT6aynU)
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benwerd_
Picard: indie address books
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benwerd_
Riker: IndieAuth
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benwerd_
Kirk: design elements
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benwerd_
Spock: static sites
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aaronpk
talky URLs are talky.io/{room}
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aaronpk
http://talky.io/riker
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aaronpk
http://talky.io/spock
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aaronpk
http://talky.io/picard
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jden
are the sessions in pdx in the etherpad yet?
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aaronpk
go ahead and make an etherpad for the session you're in
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@RachelShadoan
I am excited for the neat stuff coming out of #indieweb . Clearly, the current cloud model is not designed with the respect of users in mind (twtr.io/nvSBj6ssq8)
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@erinjo
A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvSb9Zrgnj)
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@benwerd
RT @erinjo: A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvScxE_kyQ)
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@remedy
RT @veganstraightedge: The #IndieWeb Principles being presented by @aaronpk. http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twtr.io/nvSguymMiV)
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@dcap
RT @alevin: at the same time that people bemoan FB dubious ethics, people at #indiewebcamp are working on next generations (twtr.io/nvSiXqJ_aj)
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bear_
what are the current session etherpad ids?
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bear_
for room picard? (address book)
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bear_
what session in room riker?
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jlsuttles
picard https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts
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GWG
Hello, willnorris
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sandro
brief side discussion of http://www.knightfoundation.org/press-room/press-release/mozilla-new-york-times-and-washington-post-launch-/
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bear_
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts https://talky.io/picard
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ericholscher
anyone have a keybase invite?
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@_jden
notes from the #indiewebcamp session on static sites https://github.com/bcomnes/webmention.js (twtr.io/nvTj5DTzrU)
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aaronpk
yes I do!
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ericholscher
eric@ericholscher.com
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benwerd_
Can everyone ping their Etherpad URLs?
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gRegor`
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-design
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bear_
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014static
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sandro
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-contacts
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willnorris
is there a video stream for the static sites session?
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GWG
No one seems to be in the Kirk room
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GWG
Is there video for that? I was trying to join in
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GWG
kylewm? gRegor`?
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@timmmmyboy
@benwerd Hell yes to an "IndieWeb Aggregator" you proposed. Bring POSSE full circle. #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvUT8xLB5b)
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Loqi
[mention] http://timowens.io/2014/benwerd-hell-yes-to-an-indieweb-aggregator-you-proposed-bring linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Sessions (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/benwerd/482940048434688000/39279413 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (webmention)
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@timmmmyboy
@holden Following along here and there remotely. Looks like a fantastic group and event. #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvUnGSVmjH)
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bear_
do we know what the grid is for portland- what is next up in 30 minutes?
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@pauloppenheim
Twitter and Facebook are choppy and stilted. #indieweb made me sit, rethink, redesign enough that anything other than freedom feels broken. (twtr.io/nvUu_RG9Jw)
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willnorris
relating to the static sites session, one of the things I’ve been rolling around in my head is hooking jekyll (or hugo, or whatever) up to camlistore as its source for posts, rather than the filesystem. The end result would still be a static site, but the content would be sourced from camlistore. No code yet, just ideas. Has anyone else considered doing that? (seems like something bret would be interested in
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ericholscher
also edrex
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GWG
Note to self....bring a boundary microphone next time
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JonathanNeal
I have a couple questions about fragmentions. For use in web/fragmentions, I think it might be useful to expose the getElementsByText function from the fragmention.js, but I’m unsure where I should expose it.
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JonathanNeal
I could take a global space, like window.fragmention = { getElementsByText: fn }. I could extend Document and Element prototype so you could do div.getElementsByText(string). Ideas? Preferences?
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rascul
willnorris i'm not familiar with camlistore but the idea of generating a static site from something other than the filesystem is something i've been pondering about recently
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willnorris
I’ve been slowly working on migrating from WordPress to something static (it’s a long road, given how much I have tied into wordpress… webmentions, webfinger, URL shortener, etc), but something backed by camlistore is kind of my ideal end state.
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@_jden
"If I can't put it on a t-shirt, it's not content" #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvVQyT92WQ)
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willnorris
having jekyll pull from an alternate data store shouldn’t be too difficult from what I’ve looked at. They still don’t have a great hooks system for plugins, so it would require a lot of monkey patching, but totally doable
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pfefferle
willnorris oh no! please don’t switch!
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willnorris
:)
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edrex
willnorris: i'm pretty committed to the creation of such a thing
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edrex
except, i am thinking of building it initially as a live view over camlistore, so i don't have to kick off a full build every time there's a change
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edrex
when is this session?
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@benwerd
In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvVeFsk1eC)
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rascul
willnorris i'm (slowly) building the static site generator for rascul.io, i had originally figured to use git for the content storage but recently i've been pondering other ideas, camlistore is looking interesting to me
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rascul
http://git.rascul.io/crash/crash
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willnorris
edrex: well, that then loses some of the speed advantages of pre-generating the site, but sure
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GWG
willnorris: I second pfefferle...stay with us.
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rascul
upgrade to a static site ;)
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@znmeb
RT @benwerd: In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvVrovNHXj)
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rascul
(just don't use my generator because it's nowhere near ready for anyone else to use, and barely ready enough for me!)
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willnorris
I’ll never leave wordpress entirely… my wife still uses it, and I’m unlikely to convince her to switch. Though I wouldn’t be self-dogfooding anymore… just one step removed now :)
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@thetoxicarcade
RT @benwerd: In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482972613371645952/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvVtwCAfrC)
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bear_
pfefferle can you mute your side
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pfefferle
willnorris then you have to give me access to opengraph and hum!
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@benwerd
Collaborating across coasts using WebRTC feels a lot like the Starfleet scenes in Star Trek IV. Enter the indie space whales. #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvVxnWGQ28)
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pfefferle
bear_ i have
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bear_
k
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edrex
willnorris: the new "app" api in camli is ready for something like this. the publish hander port to an app was merged a week or two ago
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rascul
reading about camlistore it looks quite interesting and may be just what i've been wanting to use
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@caseorganic
@anomalily No wonder I couldn't find your tweet! Use @caseorganic not @ambercase! Edit that podcast! Come to #indiewebcamp tomorrow! (twtr.io/nvW3XNwxAQ)
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@peat
The #GPG auth for https://indieauth.com/ is awesome. I'd love to see this in more places. #IndieWebCamp (twtr.io/nvW5HVomrj)
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@kid_OYO
RT @benwerd: Nice. @johannes_ernst live installs @withknown on @indieboxproject #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/482947946367815680/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvW8cJCRPC)
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@Johannes_Ernst
RT @erinjo: A few bits from IndieWeb Camp this morning https://twitter.com/erinjo/status/482964070413246464/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvWE0PGGrC)
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@veganstraightedge
#indiewebcamp 2014 Portland schedule. #barcamp @ Esri R&D Center Portland http://instagram.com/p/pzNSOdMniP/ (twtr.io/nvWMt1TLtM)
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@holden
RT @timmmmyboy: @holden Following along here and there remotely. Looks like a fantastic group and event. #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvW_6YVNzD)
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aaronpk
pdx lunch break!
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GWG
Lunchtime in PDX?
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willnorris
what’s next for NYC?
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willnorris
http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule seems to have a lot of holes
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rascul
wish i coulda got up to nyc :(
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tantek
NYC is going out for coffee while PDX is going out for lunch.
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pfefferle
willnorris good idea ;)
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willnorris
pfefferle: the fans and my laptop didn’t seem to happy with leaving webrtc running :)
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willnorris
fans on* my laptop
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pfefferle
…and staring at two empty rooms isn’t that exciting
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edrex
willnorris: are you in PDX? I could come down if you want to try to hack together a static builder. i have a sketch of an architecture. the main missing piece is an API binding for language X (i'd lean toward node.js)
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willnorris
I’m in the SF area
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edrex
ah
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edrex
how are you with node?
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willnorris
never used it. Everything I do at work now is Go, and I’ve been using that for most of my personal projects as well. Learning ruby just so I can hack on jekyll a little
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brianjesse
willnorris did you work on the new graph db? it looks cool
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edrex
willnorris: in that case, I'd be down to collaborate on building something in Go
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edrex
willnorris: the publish app is actually a really good starting point
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willnorris
brianjesse: cayley? no, didn’t work on it, but helped them get it up on GitHub. I work in Google’s open source office, mainly managing all the stuff we do on github
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edrex
publish uses html/template, and only supports compile-time templates, but it already works, and is in the main repo, so any work we did on that would help the main project improve
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willnorris
edrex: I haven’t gotten to the point of hooking into camli yet… the first step in my migration is to just go from WordPress to a mostly-vanilla Jekyll. The hard part here is keeping my shorturls working, since I was relying on a WordPress plugin for that. That part I’m redoing in go, and having it read the jekyll post files. After that, I’ll be looking at moving things into camlistore
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brianjesse
willnorris Cayley - yes that's the one thx, i've used neo4j and noticed the Gremlin .js API for Cayley looks pretty nice
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edrex
willnorris: my blog used to be jekyll, but I ported it to Harp a year ago
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edrex
which means the metadata is stored in a per-directory JSON file rather than YAML header
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willnorris
for a camli-based system, it would be simple to have all these be claims on the individual posts… at least that’s how i had imaged it
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willnorris
imagined*
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edrex
either way, porting content to camli will mean translating post metadata to camli attributes
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willnorris
yeah
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edrex
yeah
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edrex
arbitrary metadata FTW
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willnorris
:)
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edrex
also excited about integrating social media posts with my blog
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edrex
ok so, for a static site I think building a command-line build tool which uses the local client config makes sense
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edrex
it could be written in go
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edrex
but go doesn't have much runtime templating stuff
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edrex
I <3 my Jade, SASS, etc
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edrex
some of my posts are Jade, some are Markdown
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willnorris
yeah, I was thinking of sticking with jekyll for similar reasons, since the latest version includes native Sass support
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edrex
Even on Github Pages?
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willnorris
not using github pages
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bear_
I use markdown and a python converstion to get raw html that is then run thru css
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willnorris
though I suspect it will work there as well when they upgrade Pages to use jekyll2
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edrex
yeah. Compiling CSS using a separate script isn't a big deal.
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edrex
https://github.com/edrex/edrex.github.io/blob/master/bin/start
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willnorris
ah, yeah
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edrex
^ bash voodoo to run Sass and Jekyll/Harp simultaneously
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edrex
oooo, graph db written in (not JVM!!) go!!
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edrex
i can't afford to run a bunch of Java on my servers
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donpdonp
edrex: i saw that too, looked neat
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edrex
donpdonp: yeah!
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donpdonp
starting a JVM is like parking an RV in your driveway.
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donpdonp
it'll fit, but good luck getting anything else on there.
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pfefferle
willnorris what exactly does hum stand for, if you don't mind my asking?
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bear_
aaronpk - maybe try to refresh that talky session
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willnorris
pfefferle: it was a play on Whistle, tantek’s url shortener
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willnorris
for my go port of Hum, I’m currently using the working name “Gum” :)
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willnorris
which also has a nice connotation of holding everything together
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pfefferle_
:)
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willnorris
and if I need to do a ruby port to hook into jekyll, I’ll likely call it Rum :)
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pfefferle
yea, because it looks like a drunk url :)
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pfefferle
willnorris oh, got it… just ran hum through google translate… thought it was an abbreviation first… :)
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willnorris
horrendous url mangler ?
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pfefferle
exactly
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@brennannovak
@lindseymysse yuppers... Go join #indiewebcamp on IRC Freenode and start hackin today / tomorrow, we're on 2 coasts & 2 continents ;) (twtr.io/nvaP_0VF1L)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /2014/Schedule (+745) "/* Saturday, June 28, 2014 (Idea Sessions) */ add links to pdx sessions" (view diff)
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bear_
https://camlistore.org/
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GWG
willnorris, how about... http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Alternative_Databases#Full_Database_Abstraction_Layer
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tantek
reminds aaronpk to hand out stickers!
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willnorris
GWG: I still want the site itself to be static files, regardless of how those files get generated
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@benwerd
Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvajAY3o7U)
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@ungoldman
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvakdkRr_Q)
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@znmeb
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvaqyC4MQG)
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kylewm.com
created /2014/Design_Elements (+2001) "copy session notes over" (view diff)
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willnorris
GWG: I’ve got really good caching right now using a combination of memcache (with batcache) and nginx, but I still like the additional simplicity and security of just serving static files
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kylewm.com
edited /2014/Design_Elements (+13) "/* Participants */" (view diff)
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tantek
that's amazing benwerd!
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pfefferle
GWG we have to make a plan to convince willnorris staying with wordpress
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bear_
he is talking to tantek about mf2 strategies
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@BJDorr
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvb88iiCCo)
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tantek
and this is where I'm happy about not checking FB newsfeed since last November.
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edrex
willnorris: this is my shortest-path to integrating existing file-based build tools with camli: https://camlistore-review.googlesource.com/#/c/2869/5
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edrex
it adds a camli:blob_ref xattr to cammount nodes, which you can then pass to camtool describe to get node metadata
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edrex
which you could then pass directly into something like Jade, as the metadata context
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edrex
so you might be able to just write a small plugin for Jekyll etc that execs to camtool for metadata.
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willnorris
ah, nice
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aaronpk
pdx sessions are starting up again!
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@canuckistani
" IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering " http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twtr.io/nvbpfn7mZb)
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aaronpk
http://talky.io/riker <- micropub session
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willnorris
ooh nice. edrex: micropub is the other option I’ve considered for getting data into camlistore, without needing to mess with fuse
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willnorris
(joining that session now)
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aaronpk
pls to take notes here kthx https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieauth
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aaronpk
oops
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aaronpk
no here https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-micropub
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tantek.com
created /shortdomains (+27) "r" (view diff)
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@ungoldman
#indiewebcamp static sites session notes https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014static (twtr.io/nvcD7_ZAg4)
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gregorlove.com
created /2014/design-elements (+48) "Created page with "https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-design"" (view diff)
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tantek
challenges all techies to start sentences NOT with the word "So ...." ;)
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willnorris
so, what you’re saying is that you’d rather us start sentences with something else?
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jden
what's the talky for the main portland room?
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bear_
picard?
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jden
ty
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@_jden
Session starting: Getting Started with Known. Stream: https://talky.io/picard Notes: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014known #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvc_8qfKuf)
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KevinMarks
Worse than "so" is "look" or "listen"
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aaronpk
http://indiewebcamp.com/auth-brainstorming
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gRegor`
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-fix-the-wiki
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jden
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp2014known
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@benwerd
Demoing cross-site interactions on Known using webmentions and https://www.brid.gy/ (twtr.io/nvcgUX5gQG)
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bret
aaronpk: what is the wiki todo page?
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@ungoldman
Building third-party applications for the #indieweb with micropub https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-micropub (twtr.io/nvdAwLP3FC)
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aaronpk
https://tokens.indieauth.com/
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aaronpk
bret: there's some stuff here https://github.com/indieweb/wiki
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aaronpk
also the skin is there
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edrex
anybody else have trouble seeing the whole pano view in chat?
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@JockelLohkamp
@edverillo great to meet you at #indiewebcamp :) @agoracollective (twtr.io/nvdMGjYGmw)
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aaronpk
edrex: if you click on the thumbnail it'll get bigger
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@JockelLohkamp
RT @brennannovak: @lindseymysse yuppers... Go join #indiewebcamp on IRC Freenode and start hackin today / tomorrow, we're on 2 coasts & 2 c… (twtr.io/nvdQ_5fqzC)
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edrex
aaronpk: yeah, it's still partially covered up by my own thumbnail
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edrex
i think the layout just isn't designed for such a wide aspect
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willnorris
edrex: yeah, same here… no way around that I don’t think
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gregorlove.com
created /2014/fix-the-indiewebcamp-wiki (+54) "Created page with "https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-fix-the-wiki"" (view diff)
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willnorris
bear: i can hear you, not sure about them
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bear_
aaronpk - you can't get away from the "setup" step - you can only move it around
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bear_
willnorris - thanks
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kylewm
bear_: good point
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bear_
aaronpk - that is the indieweb way :)
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@JockelLohkamp
RT @t: #IndieWebCamp 2014 next weekend PDX NYC & now BERLIN thanks to 2011 camper @brennannovak! RSVP: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (ttk.me t4Wh3) (twtr.io/nvdhWRzFV4)
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bear_
what code is he looking at
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bear_
quill.p3k.io
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kylewm
https://quill.p3k.io
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kylewm
and he removed himself from quill's database
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aaronpk
this is what we're seeing https://www.dropbox.com/s/uv6xk23mixsmepv/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.25.01.png
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bear_
sadly the beard is smarter than I am
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aaronpk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c2p8bi3k5n2nom7/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.25.47.png
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rascul.io
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rascul.io
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aaronpk
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dne741yn35km6m6/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2014.31.05.png
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aaronpk
https://github.com/aaronpk/p3k-micropub
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/480530061326442496/482997958896799744 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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bear_
sorry - i muted
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Loqi
[mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/480530061326442496/167390061 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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willnorris
I was away from the micropub session for a few minutes… now we’re talking about clients. any discussion of anyone working on an android client yet?
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bear_
willnorris - none so far
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peat.org
edited /PESOS (+30) (view diff)
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GWG
Wonder if a micropub for Wordpress plugin is a good idea
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@holden
Watching @benwerd demo Known at #indiewebcamp -- very neat. (twtr.io/nvfccwaVd8)
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willnorris.com
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jeremyzilar
hmm
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KevinMarks
Gwg sounds promising
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KevinMarks
Or a bridgy extension to map micropub to the posting formats it supports
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GWG
KevinMarks: Not sure I'd do it. But...I've never been 100% happy with the Wordpress Android app.
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GWG
KevinMarks: Bridgy isn't customizable enough for me on the publishing side
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KevinMarks
But it had embedded knowledge of how to post to certain silos
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iamshane.com
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iamshane.com
edited /selfkoolaid (+0) "Redirected page to [[selfdogfood]]" (view diff)
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bnvk
How's it going over there Portland?
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bear_
it's going well - there is 3 sessions active
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tantek.com * uploaded "[[File:2014-06-28-retweet.png]]"
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bnvk
bear_ did anyone get a video feed up?
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pfefferle
willnorris where to go now?
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willnorris
not sure… is there an updated schedule somewhere?
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tantek.com
edited /repost (+126) "/* Twitter */ add 2014 retweet look" (view diff)
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willnorris
ah, http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule is updated now
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pfefferle
willnorris what time is it now?
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willnorris
15:00 PDX time
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@LeeBangah
https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Management RT favor (twtr.io/nvhZSorKPj)
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bear_
do we know what the next pdx sessions are?
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gRegor`
bear_: 2014 schedule on the wiki should be correct
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bear_
gRegor` - ohhh! it got updated
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bret
aaronpk: if im hosting on localhost:3000, can people visit my ip at that port on this network?
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bret
internally
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@IdentityWoman
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvhuixkDoo)
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@sunil_abraham
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvi3JWsXD4)
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KevinMarks
Bret:yes - last indieWebcamp, I got postings to my local camlistore
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tantek
Apparently Google doesn't index emoji, e.g. zero results: https://www.google.com/search?q=💩
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@nickswarb
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nviFf9gCtL)
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KevinMarks
Is it "self koolaid" or "put your own oxygen mask on before helping others"?
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KevinMarks
Tantek yelp does
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tantek
However, there IS a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/💩
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tantek
KevinMarks - but the question is, did Technorati?
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KevinMarks
The db was in utf8
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KevinMarks
depends if all the processing thingies coped. I'd guess not as the later indexing was in java, which is not steal plane aware by default iirc
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KevinMarks
s/steal/astral/
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Loqi
KevinMarks meant to say: depends if all the processing thingies coped. I'd guess not as the later indexing was in java, which is not astral plane aware by default iirc
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KevinMarks
Tags would have worked if escaped right
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@JockelLohkamp
RT @brennannovak: Techies & Berliners, come down to #IndieWeb Camp in person @agoracollective details: http://bnvk.me/h1V http://t.co/… (twtr.io/nvihUFW_A9)
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@CreativeDynamix
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nviiiPjFvm)
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KevinMarks
Snowman ⛄ was one of my test cases
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KevinMarks
http://m.yelp.com/search?find_desc=%F0%9F%92%A9&l=a%3A37.1122334%2C-121.6430583%2C37&mapsize=360%2C421
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KevinMarks
Though snowman isn't astral plane http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo-sample-code-python##snowman
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gRegor`
Mind being blown by federated wiki, currently
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KevinMarks
So there are 2 snowmen in unicode apparently
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bret
https://xdhncnenlx.localtunnel.me my temp federated wiki ;)
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pfefferle
so, it’s getting late in germany… i wish you a good night… see you tomorrow
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Loqi
laila tov!
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@MusicDiscoveryS
RT @LeeBangah: https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Manag… (twtr.io/nvkAWK9YeV)
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@masagusfahrozi
RT @LeeBangah: https://www.youtube.com/ @Affiliateblognt @HotNewHipHop @HipHopSince1987 #indieweb @520Promotion @MusicDiscoveryS @AnR_Manag… (twtr.io/nvkDow1wcM)
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@Frittmann
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvkP4DEJ5s)
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@osuka
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvmbCrjM2w)
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@cstanhope
I can't participate in #indieweb yet, but using @t's recent talk for inspiration. http://tantek.com/2014/175/t1/pdf14-why-need-indieweb-video-slides (twtr.io/nvn2n0w2zC)
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@kartik_prabhu
RT @t: IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering: http://tantek.com/2014/179/b1/indiewebcamp-thoughts-before-gathering (twtr.io/nvnPmta568)
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@_jden
#indiewebcamp has been amazing so far- so glad I finally made it out to one of these! (twtr.io/nvneAujfjo)
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@sonipaul
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvo7JoR2SA)
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KevinMarks
Indieweb The Gathering: there can be only one. Wait, what?
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gRegor`
bret: Whatt's the etherpad link?
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@suraiya95
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvouqJUdUH)
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bret
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb2014unbuisness
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gregorlove.com
created /2014/indieweb-for-activists (+51) "Created page with "https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb2014unbuisness"" (view diff)
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@rwentechaney
#indieweb shoutout by @nacin at #wcsea on #indiewebcamp day. Happy overlap. (twtr.io/nvpp58Ju4o)
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@veganstraightedge
The #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland group photo. http://instagram.com/p/pzlr3sjckz /by @aaronpk (twtr.io/nvpyHHoorC)
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@jlsuttles
RT @veganstraightedge: The #indiewebcamp 2014 Portland group photo. http://instagram.com/p/pzlr3sjckz /by @aaronpk (twtr.io/nvq1rJLQxc)
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aaronpk
guys give me a sec i'm putting a native twitter one up in a sec
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@aaronpk
Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvqPhwZT2R)
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@indiewebcamp
RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvqSAzMGNQ)
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@benwerd
Awesome photo of #indiewebcamp PDX 2014! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp-esripdx (twtr.io/nvq_w0dy80)
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@peat
OH: "Giant, magical suppository of marketing data." #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nvquNxN9zU)
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@veganstraightedge
RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvrUobnHL0)
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@jlsuttles
RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvrY44yunU)
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@gRegorLove
RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvrYGYu3oL)
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bret
genration like: http://bret.io/2014/06/15/likes/ gRegor` <----
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@_jden
@fredtrotter @ReginaHolliday y'all should talk to the #indiewebcamp people @caseorganic @aaronpk #gimmemydamdata (twtr.io/nvsAEfvoUo)
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@aaronpk
@gesa There will be one in Brighton, UK and Cambridge, MA later this year! Check out http://indiewebcamp.com/events (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp) (twtr.io/nvsDxFPKpL)
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Loqi
[mention] http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events (webmention)
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@johnbender
RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvsJp_717C)
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@jeremyzilar
@indiewebcamp is going to try to cram into Great Jones Cafe — 54 Great Jones St, New York, NY 10012 — map https://maps.google.com/?q=Great%20Jones%20Cafe%2C%2054%20Great%20Jones%20St%2C%20New%20York%2C%20NY%2010012&ftid=0x89c259852b599d17:0x80aee69d0b0436e2&hl=en&gl=us (twtr.io/nvsUDycD1s)
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@Dailygrinder1
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nvsWr__XU0)
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@johnbender
RT @benwerd: "Homesteading is a constellation of apps." @veganstraightedge demos his and @jlsuttles' work #indiewebcamp http://t.co/uDmuR19… (twtr.io/nvseUKhWg4)
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aaronpk
let's take notes on readers here! https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indie-reader
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rascul
i feel like indieweb should have it's own etherpad instead of mozilla's
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aaronpk
we're getting there for sure :)
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rascul
https://github.com/mozilla/etherpad-lite
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aaronpk
i've installed it before actually
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@indieboxproject
RT @benwerd: Awesome photo of #indiewebcamp PDX 2014! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp-esripdx (twtr.io/nvtrKNggFj)
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@ungoldman
Great discussions and project ideas at #indiewebcamp today! Looking forward to making things tomorrow 🔜🚀 (twtr.io/nvu2vBsa7j)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /2014/Schedule (+26) "/* IndieWebCamp Group Dinner */ Laughing Planet in the Pearl!" (view diff)
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JonathanNeal
Should fragmentions only apply to headings and paragraphs?
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rascul
no
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JonathanNeal
and list items? Or everything? Everything gets complicated.
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JonathanNeal
Okay.
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rascul
text can be outside of paragraphs and headings
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JonathanNeal
<p>match <span>match</span></p> I think this scenario fails in the current version. I’m trying to resolve it.
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JonathanNeal
Thanks rascul, your feedback is clear and concise.
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rascul
example, items in a list might not be in a paragraphg
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bethaknee.com
edited /2014/Guest_List (+265) "/* West */ RSVPing! (slightly late :P)" (view diff)
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JonathanNeal
In the above example, <p> and <span> should both be returned, each for different matches.
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JonathanNeal
I think I’ll have to count the number of matches in an element, and then subtract from that number for each descendent that also returns a match.
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bret
http://talky.io/riker
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bret
big meeting :)
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JonathanNeal
bret: big meeting of / for?
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bret
indie readers
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aaronpk
we muted you guys on the video, so wave or IRC if you want to jump in
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JonathanNeal
http://indiewebcamp.com/reader ?
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bret
talking about building an indie reader
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bnvk1
what state is the MF plugin for Selfoss?
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aaronpk
bnvk1: it's just okay right now, not great
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bnvk1
is that what you're talking about re-factoring or are you starting from scratch?
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aaronpk
it's in here https://github.com/aaronpk/selfoss/tree/master/spouts/microformats
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aaronpk
we'd be starting from scratch
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bnvk1
awe ok. any particular reason instead of just hard forking Selfoss?
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aaronpk
probably worth looking at hard-forking it
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aaronpk
the "spout" idea/classes they have might be useful if nothing else
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bnvk1
+1 to those ideas :)
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bnvk1
I've been having some decent success using Jinja (python) + Mustache / Underscore's _.template()
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aaronpk
pdx is heading to dinner!
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@schnarfed
Wish I was at @indiewebcamp this weekend! You guys are doing awesome, important work. Can’t wait to see this year's crazy new ideas! (twtr.io/nvy_BsX8o0)
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@jgarber
Bummed to be missing #IndieWebCamp but looking forward to reading about what everyone's working on. (twtr.io/nvyghx8MgM)
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bnvk1
good night y'all- exciting stuff over there :P
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Loqi
laila tov!
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GWG
came home.
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GWG
aaronpk: You taught Loqi that?
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Loqi
who, me?
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@jgarber
If any #IndieWebCamp participants are using @craftcms, you may enjoy this webmention plugin: http://sixtwothree.org/blog/sending-webmentions-with-craft/ (twtr.io/nvz09hjcu8)
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@benwerd
Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvz4UeSN95)
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@thetoxicarcade
RT @benwerd: Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twtr.io/nvzC6Zjvtc)
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@marihuertas
Catching up reading tweets about #indiewebcamp in PDX. :) (twtr.io/nvzo9UyXk5)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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GWG
Long day.
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GWG
Wish I had heard some of the Portland stuff though.
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@znmeb
RT @benwerd: Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twtr.io/nw0u2wu4wZ)
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@benwerd
@znmeb No - but it could be a fun indieweb tool. (twtr.io/nw1262uWQ0)
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@anomalily
Just finished up my shift at @pedalpalooza Bike Fair - anything still going down tonight for #indieweb? cc @caseorganic @aaronpk @ungoldman (twtr.io/nw7PG8wfEw)
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@anomalily
@caseorganic @aaronpk @ungoldman Thought it was possible there was a secret spontaneous #indieweb overlords karaoke party tonight. (twtr.io/nw7tD_0yA9)
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@LobsterNews
Tantek Celik, "Why We Need the IndieWeb", #PDF14 https://www.youtube.com/ https://lobste.rs/s/w55jml (twtr.io/nw80S4KhS8)
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@ungoldman
@anomalily was talking with @bretolius & others about needing to make more accessible #indieweb publishing tools for artists & zinesters (twtr.io/nw89Vccqw0)
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@jlsuttles
I coined selfkoolaid today at #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/selfkoolaid (twtr.io/nw97_PMoWx)
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@jlsuttles
I left my phone on the table and came back to a @veganstraightedge and @notenoughneon photo shoot 💁 #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/jlsuttles/status/483083549466046464/photo/1 (twtr.io/nw9H0b_e_Q)
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@veganstraightedge
RT @jlsuttles: I left my phone on the table and came back to a @veganstraightedge and @notenoughneon photo shoot 💁 #indiewebcamp http://t.c… (twtr.io/nw9Qr5v_BC)
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aaronparecki.com
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JonathanNeal
I think fragmention has to be almost completely rewritten, ugh.
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@bretolius
RT @ungoldman: @anomalily was talking with @bretolius & others about needing to make more accessible #indieweb publishing tools for artists… (twtr.io/nwB9ajCp8J)
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@dariusdunlap
Wishing I was at #indiewebcamp this weekend, but sipping a beer while cooking a nice dinner for my wife is pretty swell, too. (twtr.io/nwBFhCuuiC)
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@KristelMiskin
RT @dariusdunlap: Wishing I was at #indiewebcamp this weekend, but sipping a beer while cooking a nice dinner for my wife is pretty swell, … (twtr.io/nwBjZ8_T3U)
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@znmeb
@sarahjeong Well ... there's #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/nwCyhi8aC1)
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tantek.com * uploaded "[[File:2014-179-iwc-nyc-repost-ui.jpg]]"
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tantek.com * uploaded "[[File:2014-179-iwc-nyc-repost-tweet.jpg]]"
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tantek.com * uploaded "[[File:2014-179-iwc-nyc-repost-new-posse.jpg]]"
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@stkntp
RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twtr.io/nwEzW7FNoY)
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@kevinmarks
@cdixon @smagdali @fromedome @BenedictEvans no, just the non #indieweb parts (twtr.io/nwGpgoUcBU)
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bret
!tell aaronpk reminder to pack that usb ethernet adapter
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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@billywwells
New Billy Wells Horror Book Trailer! https://www.youtube.com/ #horror #kindle #zombies #ebooks #scarystoriestime #amazon #indieweb (twtr.io/nwHcVppuqf)
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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KartikPrabhu
Good IWC first experience! :)
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KartikPrabhu
JonathanNeal: why reweite fragmention?
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@kevinmarks
@cdixon your continual conflation of "the web" with silos is the unacknowledged problem #indieweb (twtr.io/nwLfC0TLfY)
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@ayirpelle
RT @kevinmarks: @cdixon your continual conflation of "the web" with silos is the unacknowledged problem #indieweb (twtr.io/nwLiQiv6jG)
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@kartik_prabhu
@marihuertas Sounds great! Usual plan is posted on http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-07-02-homebrew-website-club don’t know how a cafe it’ll work for 3 people talk. (twtr.io/nwMKiD7Pej)
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tantek.com
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JonathanNeal
KartikPrabhu: I don’t think it grabs the right elements. I think we’ve been lucking out.
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KartikPrabhu
oh wow! what is the problem?
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JonathanNeal
Well, the good news is, 99% of the time we luck out.
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KartikPrabhu
ah ok.some strange edge cases then
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JonathanNeal
For now.
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KartikPrabhu
I'm at the IWC in NYC and plan to hash out the margin-comments thing tomorrow, but I'll watch th fragmentions repo for updates
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JonathanNeal
That’s awesome!
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KartikPrabhu
alrighty! out for the night
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@kevinmarks
@nrrrdcore on the #indieweb, and twitter too (twtr.io/nwP6z595Vc)
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aaronpk
amazing day 1 everyone!!
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Loqi
aaronpk: bret left you a message 1 hour, 13 minutes ago: reminder to pack that usb ethernet adapter
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aaronpk
oh thanks bret
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@aaronpk
@nrrrdcore in Portland because IndieWebCamp! (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/28/2/) (twtr.io/nwPvG6gHeC)
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aaronpk
bret: I can't find it!!!
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JonathanNeal
KartikPrabhu: the part that breaks is the ability to target second, third, fourth, entries, etc. That’s why we haven’t noticed it.
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aaronpk
tantek: remind me again why it's necessary for twitter.com/aaronpk to link back to aaronparecki.com? if I am attempting to identify as aaronparecki.com and aaronparecki.com links to twitter.com/aaronpk and I can prove that I am twitter.com/aaronpk then isn't that enough?
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@_jden
@ungoldman also, from our discussion of assets at #indiewebcamp, could totally link to magnet URNs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme (twtr.io/nwUnErJceC)
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Loqi
[mention] http://pdxmob.com/indiewebcamp-2014-pre-party/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Guest_List (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://pdxmob.com/indiewebcamp-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (pingback)
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JonathanNeal
KartikPrabhu: example: https://gist.github.com/jonathantneal/ddf0544629d0ef1892fe
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