#indiewebcamp 2014-10-26

2014-10-26 UTC
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@feesable great post by @benwerd (cofounder of @withknown) on the #social #indieweb https://medium.com/indie-web/your-audience-isnt-your-social-network-ab25ccc1f33f (twitter.com/_/status/526179727904477184)
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@jamiepeloquin Adactio: Journal—Indie web building blocks @somewww #webdevlotd #html #indieweb https://adactio.com/journal/7698 (twitter.com/_/status/526185454790782976)
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@knightsublime #Open #web #standards #indieweb #design @IndieWebCampUK http://tantek.com/ renewing IP address #minimalism #permaculture manipulation (twitter.com/_/status/526200002096664577)
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bret permaculture?
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@LEADRSDO a_look_into_me: I could use a little help marketing my upcoming short story collection! http://gofund.me/ctcwmg #crowdfunding #IndieAuth... (twitter.com/_/status/526217580890316800)
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GWG yawns
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@polinemwangi It is an interesting tool, worth looking into it's application RT @ajagwe: on POSSE.... http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE @polinemwangi @waithash (twitter.com/_/status/526230460717080577)
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tantek.com created /TFA (+39) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /algorithmic (+158) "-h1, improve dfn, see also" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /algorithm (+328) "stub with dfn, a few examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Demos (+69) "link introductions to each day" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /User:Tantek.com (+279) "/* working on */ wiki and blog IndieWebCamp 2014 Cambridge demos" (view diff)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@ShaneHudson @dajbelshaw Is there room for any http://indiewebcamp.com concepts in the Web Literacy Map? I think the concepts are quite important :) (twitter.com/_/status/526401606171242497)
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@tonnet Your audience isn’t your social network https://medium.com/indie-web/your-audience-isnt-your-social-network-ab25ccc1f33f #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/526403377832689666)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/ShaneHudson/526401606171242497/19090770 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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GWG !tell aaronpk Have an indieauth problem again
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@veganstraightedge #Dream: putting a file:// url in the in-reply-to url should automatically make a post private. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/526418638329626624)
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@kylewm2 At HWC this week I was shamed into adding venues for https://kylewm.com/checkins :) #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/526422301999255552)
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bret Should I note this in the wiki? http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5864547&cid=48214875
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kylewm.com edited /checkin (+430) "/* Kyle Mahan */ added venues to checkins" (view diff)
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snarfed GWG: state of the word is in 10m, you watching?
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snarfed http://2014.sf.wordcamp.org/session/the-state-of-the-word-2014/
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GWG I wish I could
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snarfed ? stream it
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snarfed $10
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GWG snarfed: Vacation is over
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GWG I'm back at work
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GWG You watching?
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snarfed GWG: ah, welcome back
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snarfed yup
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snarfed listening at least
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GWG snarfed: I was on vacation all last week. I took pictures
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snarfed GWG: i saw! looked like a great trip
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snarfed we were there a couple years ago
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snarfed https://snarfed.org/pictures , the albums start at "malorie & siraj's wedding"
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snarfed ah, better: https://snarfed.org/2013-05-24_scotland_and_ireland , https://snarfed.org/2013-05-26_cruise
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GWG snarfed: The nonstop SFO-DUB flight is back. IT was gone from '08 to '14.
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GWG I was going to go alone, but my father asked to tag along
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GWG snarfed: I so rarely post photo notes, and that was why I was sending you reports
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GWG Still having Bridgy problems
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snarfed GWG: glad you're posting more photos! ugh, sorry. details?
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Loqi [mention] http://bcc.npdoty.name/Dealing-with-harassment-and-spam-on-the-Web linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Vouch (webmention)
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GWG snarfed: It isn't picking up new likes. I could try reauthorizing.
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snarfed GWG: which silo? check your user page, does it have a yellow pause icon?
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GWG snarfed: Facebook
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GWG snarfed: And no
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snarfed GWG: ok. details would help. got an example link?
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snarfed and anything else you think might be useful to know
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KevinMarks This is telling: https://twitter.com/jessebeach/status/526440432549756929?s=09
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@jessebeach So how do I actually leverage a JSON-LD doc in an application? I can't find any practical examples on the web? Can someone point me to one? (twitter.com/_/status/526440432549756929)
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tantek KevinMarks - nothing about JSON-LD is about being *practical* or *on the web*.
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GWG snarfed: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=730125080409369
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tantek it's just the latest iteration of attempting to push RDF/triples-philosophy onto the latest machine-readable fashion-format of JSON.
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KevinMarks The following tweets sum it up well too
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snarfed GWG: ok, i'll look soon
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GWG snarfed: I hope you consider it troubleshooting, not pestering.
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/ShaneHudson/526401606171242497/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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alexhartley Hi all. I have a known install running and I'm using brid.gy, but nothing seems to be showing up in my feed.
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Loqi alexhartley: snarfed left you a message 1 week, 4 days ago: sorry for the trouble with bridgy! it's actually set up with your FB account fine; the yellow warning banner is just a UI bug that i'm still debugging. apologies for the confusion!
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alexhartley The posts on brid.gy have an exclamation mark at the side of them, and the server log shows "ERROR - No link from https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/alexhartley/526293850256867328/526297316224167936 to https://stream.hartley.cc/2014/its-too-early-for-these-shenanigans-im-confused"
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KevinMarks Anyone seen this before https://github.com/collection-json/spec
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snarfed GWG: definitely troubleshooting, thank you!
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snarfed alexhartley: ugh, sorry. looking now
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tantek KevinMarks: never heard of it. some red flags:
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pdurbin KevinMarks: Collection+JSON gets talked about in #rest a lot. e.g. http://irclog.greptilian.com/rest/2014-09-09#i_75890
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KevinMarks Looks a bit like return of gdata
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tantek RF1: lack of obv author personal domain
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tantek RF2: author's email is a "yahoo.com" address (i.e. not their own domain)
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alexhartley Thanks snarfed. Probably something I've done wrong.
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snarfed alexhartley: silly question, did you try the retry buttons?
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tantek RF3: first snippet of code has "first-name" as an example, bad sign that author has not done research or is ignorant of well established contact formats (vCard, hCard, h-card etc.) "given-name", and use of "first-name" also belies a semi-western-centric blinders bias.
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alexhartley snarfed: yeah tried them a few times on both the facebook and twitter pages. Just kept saying failed.
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tantek RF4: Use of URI and IRI whereas modern webdev/webapi dev is moving back to standardizing on URL
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tantek KevinMarks: to end on at least *one* good point, it does seem the author is aware of modern link relations registry practices (microformats.org instead of IANA) and has documented as such in section 5. Link Relations: https://github.com/collection-json/spec#5-link-relations
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snarfed alexhartley: definitely an odd error, since the bridgy page definitely links to your page, which contradicts the error message
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tantek and by clicking around, author does have his own website: amundsen.com, thus omission from spec (i.e. not linking his name to it) is likely a simple oversight.
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alexhartley snarfed: Yes. I probably have something set up wrong with my known install. Been trying to sort it all day but am a bit stumped.
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snarfed alexhartley: actually i doubt it's something you did wrong, but it does seem like a problem with known
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snarfed alexhartley: maybe check that your server can successfully fetch external pages over http?
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alexhartley snarfed: thanks, I'll have a look into that
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alexhartley snarfed: trying to work out what I've changed. It was was working originally https://stream.hartley.cc/2014/giving-firefox-another-go-so-why-cant-you-close-pinned
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alexhartley snarfed: only thing I can think i've done is updating the server config to sort the shellshock thing
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KevinMarks__ More interpretation of share vs like: https://twitter.com/Choplogik/status/449060704490749953?s=09
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@Choplogik hey @twitter i fixed 'em https://twitter.com/Choplogik/status/449060704490749953/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/449060704490749953)
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@sirmlivesey @zebrared Revolves around indieweb idea of known. That, and a wispernet style of system. We have the tech to redistribute power on the net. (twitter.com/_/status/526496086710841344)
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GWG I ordered one of those Yubico security keys to test out.
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