#indiewebcamp 2014-12-02

2014-12-02 UTC
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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KevinMarks
I mean that the ToC pattern guarantees there will be 2 matches in the page for the topic heading, so the fragmention will find the first
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JonathanNeal
Oh, I thought we have a mechanism for that.
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@mistydemeo
“We’re not going to wake up to find out that traditional systems have been magically converted to triplestores” - @gmcharlt #c4lbc
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@chrismessina
@timbwalsh you can @joindiaspora or support the #indieweb movement (and I encourage that), but how does that help the mainstream?
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bret
aaronpk: are you the one behind http://questo.email/ ?
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snarfed.org
edited /webmention.io (+733) "how to fix libxml-ruby/libxml2 incompatibility"
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cweiske.de
edited /Why_web_sign-in (+4) "/* Why not consume OpenID */ service is indieauth.com, not indieauth itself"
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@ade_oshineye
@scottjenson that’s the price you pay for being #indieweb
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post-by-email
uploaded /File:20141202-104014.pdf "Uploaded via email by convener.icic_9 <convener.icic*@*ep.ac.in>"
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freegrep
I'm having a problem with the GPG verification on indieauth.com. It is telling me "The key used to sign the challenge was not the key at http://grepular.com/0018461F.pub.asc" - Except, I'm pretty sure I'm signing the challenge correctly. Does anyone here work on indieauth.com or can point me in the direction of someone who does?
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KartikPrabhu
freegrep: you should talk to aaronpk. he rund indieauth.com
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freegrep
Thanks. Anyone have an email address for him, or should I just wait for him to pop up on IRC?
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freegrep
Never mind. Found his details here: http://aaronparecki.com/contact
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Pierre-O
freegrep: you can use the !tell username command (and the bot will drop the message to username when he/she is online)
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KartikPrabhu
what Pierre-O said
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freegrep
Useful to know. I've sent him an email now though
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freegrep
Thanks everyone
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@dkmj
RT @kevinmarks: “We’ve set up a Wiki, called the File Formats Wiki.” - @textfiles #indieweb http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4445
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loic_m
hi there. I will give a talk this month at a local meetup to introduce the indieweb. Are there already any available materials to start with, in order to make my slides?
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@donkos
RT @kevinmarks: “We’ve set up a Wiki, called the File Formats Wiki.” - @textfiles #indieweb http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4445
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tantek.com
deleted /File:20141202-104014.pdf "Spam: Looks suspicious. PDF from random email. Can we block PDF uploads in particular?"
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@PHP_CEO
EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT $COMPANY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED! WE SET OUT TO CHANGE THE WORLD OF $X NOW FUCK YOU WE’RE SHUTTING IT ALL DOWN TOMORROW
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jonnybarnes
so ZNC won't connect to freenode at the moment
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ben_thatmustbeme
loic_m not that i know of, you can check the wiki. Might be a cool thing to add though
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@ericaavey
WOO @23andMe just launched in the U.K.! Health and ancestry. Take that, @USFDA. :) #ownyourdata
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@ericaavey
WOO @23andMe just launched in the U.K.! Health and ancestry. Take that, @US_FDA. :) #ownyourdata
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tantek.com
edited /own_your_data (+362) "edit thedod's entry to focused listing of what "instead of what silo" and what post types, move other details to user page"
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tantek.com
edited /User:Dubiousdod.org (+1080) "moved ownyourdata details beyond "instead of what silo" and what post types here - good to keep track of all this on a user page"
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tantek.com
edited /posts (+12) "/* Kinds of Posts */ venue is posted by one person"
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tantek.com
edited /own_your_data (+21) "/* Per Post Type */ link specifically to kinds"
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+389) "/* Indie Checkins */ Note venue itch in particular as useful on its own even before checkins, though related so keep in same section"
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@sil
@brucel I don't have comments any more :) Except webmentions, which are different
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kylewm
loic_m: tantek and caseorganic have published a ton of CC-BY slides. here is a recent one http://tantek.com/presentations/2014/05/indieweb/
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gRegor`
Morning, indieweb
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GWG
Morning, gRegor
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Loqi
GWG: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 day ago: I don't think they are going to backport that fix back to 1.9.3 it looks like only 2.0 on
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GWG
!tell ben_thatmustbeme: I think aaronpk is looking to upgrade
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ben_thatmustbeme
hey Loqi. give me my message
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Loqi
who, me?
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh, you put a colon
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: Autocomplete
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GWG
Also, this suggestion I sent in might interest you
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ben_thatmustbeme
i always end up putting a comma
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ben_thatmustbeme
wow, that SNI bug is being blamed for a lot
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: Glad my issue is helping others
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kylewm
We're most likely *not* having HWC in SF tomorrow (since it looks like it'd just be me). I'm still up for it, let me know if anyone wants to meet up!
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ben_thatmustbeme
GWG: it was a pretty odd corner case, but still it should have been caught long before now
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ben_thatmustbeme
thought ruby devs claimed it may be openssl's fault
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ben_thatmustbeme
but i don't think so
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GWG
I'm working on my server migration, or trying to.
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GWG
Site is moving to a new server
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ben_thatmustbeme
new server? you going to be the only service on there?
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ben_thatmustbeme
in other words is this to get rid of SNI issues you are having?
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: Not exactly.
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: Regrettably, I also host a website for my niece's school...they have an SSL cert for an annual fundraiser.
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@jkphl
@adactio @aaronpk Happy to see u guys running an @indiewebcamp @btconf next year — pls let me know if you need some organizational support!
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aaronpk
good morning
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GWG
aaronpk: Morning, aaronpk
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aaronpk
uhh... if you're gonna send me a PGP-encoded email, at least help me decode it by giving me a link to your website or even better, a tool to verify the signature
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aaronpk
I feel bad cause this guy sent me two emails that are PGP encoded so he clearly wants to say somethin
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aaronpk
but I open it in Inbox and it just wants me to download the unnamed "File" attachment
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aaronpk
if I "show original" in Gmail then I can see the PGP encrypted attachment
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aaronpk
oh hey turns out it's encrypted with *my* public key
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aaronpk
save attachment -> gpg -d msg.asc -> plaintext!
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jonnybarnes
wow composer has got crazy fast today
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jonnybarnes
aaronpk: isnt that how PGP is meant to work? I send you an email encoded with your public key
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aaronpk
yes, it's just a horrible unusable mess
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aaronpk
even Google's Inbox made no attempt at making it more usuable, and that was a ground-up rewrite of an email interface
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snarfed.org
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@TheRealDod
@SebMln This is funny on so many levels, but #TIL twitter had a “don’t let them RT me” feature. Da fug? #Indiewebcamp FTW
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jonnybarnes
hey tantek, will notes on your site ever have clickable hashtags?
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Loqi
tantek: cweiske left you a message 1 day, 11 hours ago: did you highlight "They were quite inefficient" but not the following "old scripts" in http://indiewebcamp.com/feed#HubMed ?
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Loqi
tantek: elf-pavlik left you a message 1 day, 3 hours ago: : evanpro asked if someone could present MicroPub during Social WG telecon tomorrow: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Dec/0000.html
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jonnybarnes
lol, lets do the Loqi dance :)
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tantek
!tell cweiske I highlighted what was relevant to the termination of feed file support, the inefficiency, and implied tax of updating or maintaining that *separate* code path for generating a side file from generating the real world HTML that people actually read / use on a day to day basis.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
!tell elf-pavlik re: presenting MicroPub during Social WG telcon - aaronpk is on it: http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2014-12-02#t1417546701903
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KevinMarks
do we have a homebrew in sf this week?
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tantek.com
edited /Falcon (+398) "/* Itches */ linked hashtags"
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tantek
KevinMarks: what does the wiki say?
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KevinMarks
computer say no
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KevinMarks
ah, 'cos you're in portland and Ben is off to London
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tantek
KevinMarks - would you like to co-organize one with other SF co-organizers?
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tantek
try pinging kylewm and snarfed
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KevinMarks
given what a pain it was to get to SF today in all this rain, I may take a "rain check" as americans say
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danlyke_
KevinMarks, if you're North Bay we could save ourselves the hassle of the Golden Gate Bridge...
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KevinMarks
I'm San Jose, so another layer of hassle
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KevinMarks
I drove to avoid cycling in the rain, but that was not a great idea
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kylewm
KevinMarks: danlyke_: I may have canceled prematurely, thought it was just going to be me. I'm fighting a little bit of a sore throat and wouldn't be sad to miss, but if you guys want to meet, I will! we could also do a satellite thing with PDX if they are amenable
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@Carnage4Life
Just accidentally clicked on an XML file. 😱https://twitter.com/CommitStrip/status/532277930656030721/photo/1 #visualstudio #programming #funny
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KevinMarks
Rss antipattern?
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aaronpk
hahaha
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Loqi
awesome
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bret
(Sub in Xcode for visual studio)
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jonnybarnes
does anyone find photos really hard to view in the web browser
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jonnybarnes
I want to zoom into that comic
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jonnybarnes
instead im squinting at it
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bret
i clicked on it to make it big
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danlyke_
kylewm KevinMarks I don't have any progress and am armpit deep in a bathroom remodel, so really shouldn't this week.
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jonnybarnes
does anyone use linux here? can you tell me why when i enter my correct password its accepted nearly instantly, but if i mistype it, theres several seconds before its rejected?
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reedstrm
jonnybarnes: "does anyone use linux here" C|N>K aaronpk beat me to a ref. w/ the correct answer
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jonnybarnes
thanks for the reply
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jonnybarnes
makes sense actually
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finchd
windows does that too actually, but goes up from a smaller value
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kylewm
what is C|N>K?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "C|N>K" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=C%7CN%3EK
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reedstrm
If it's your own machine, you can tweak it, in /etc/pam.d/login (at least, that's where it is on ubuntu: pam_faildelay.so
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reedstrm
Ah, mu usenet background is showing :-)
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reedstrm
s/mu/my/
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Loqi
reedstrm meant to say: Ah, my usenet background is showing :-)
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reedstrm
Coffee, piped through Nose, deposited on Keyboard. In unix shell pipeline.
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kylewm
lol, definitely not what I was thinking
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jonnybarnes
does anyone else do this? Im thinking of automatically adding abbr to my notes, so if I say FWIW itd get turned into <abbr title="For What Its Worth">FWIW</abbr>
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jonnybarnes
would that be the correct use of the abbr tag?
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snarfed.org
edited /webmention.io () "(-770) /* Developing */ drop libxml-ruby troubleshooting; aaronpk fixed it (maybe unknowingly) in https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/commit/20413b2"
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@t
Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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@jon_pratty
RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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@eraycakir
RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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@dangillmor
RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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@dnm54
RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@t
Most of my work @Mozilla is as a "steward of the web platform" * @W3CAB @CSS3UI http://www.w3.org/wiki/SocialWG * @IndieWebCamp (ttk.me t4ZS4)
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@jmckenty
RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3)
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bret
a nice positive response from winer. good to see that
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aaronpk
what? where?
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@davewiner
@t @mmayo -- I like that way of putting it -- Internet of Me. ;-)
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snarfed
hey aaronpk, you mentioned maybe upgrading to ruby 2. do you already know of any incompatibilities in the webmention.io codebase? or do you just think there might be?
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aaronpk
no clue
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snarfed
ok thx
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aaronpk
hm I have 2.1.3 installed, i can check real quick
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aaronpk
chruby++
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Loqi
chruby has 2 karma
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snarfed
aaronpk: feel free to ignore, i think i figured out my issue and it's not ruby 2
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aaronpk
I just installed it on ruby 2 and looks like it worked!
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@miklb
I should really find some paying work. Currently in an ADD mode of bouncing from parsing JSON in Python to php implementation of webmentions
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aaronpk
that's promising