#indieweb

2015-05-10

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tantek.com
edited /The-Open-Graph-protocol (+164) "consolidate a bit, see also microformats, link-preview, linky linky, more subheads, expand dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /comments-presentation (-20) "/* in realtime */ rm dup see also, linky" (view diff)
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tantek.com
created /real-time (+22) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /realtime (+33) "/* Examples */ better labels" (view diff)
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@nixsiow
How to set up web sign-in on your own domain - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain#st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= http://indiewebcamp.com/How_to_set_up_web_sign-in_on_your_own_domain#st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= (twtr.io/zGAjkB_t0o)
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KevinMarks_
should the main page have germany at the top instead of cambridge?
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@Renaade
Day 2 of #indiewebcamp (@ sipgate GmbH - @sipgatede in Düsseldorf) https://www.swarmapp.com/c/kTYzDrTbpXY https://twitter.com/Renaade/status/597302794459164672/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGBBpjoiXC)
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@nixsiow
IndieWebify.Me - a guide to getting you on the IndieWeb http://indiewebify.me/#st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= http://indiewebify.me/#st_refDomain=&st_refQuery= (twtr.io/zGBDbod1Ef)
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tantek
KevinMarks - yes - I think it just slipped through the cracks
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@Renaade
Frrrrühstüüüück #IndieWebCamp bei @sipgateDE https://twitter.com/Renaade/status/597304859386339328/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGBw5FbkN8)
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@opansxyz
RT @Renaade: Frrrrühstüüüück #IndieWebCamp bei @sipgateDE https://twitter.com/Renaade/status/597304859386339328/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGC6JykT6f)
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tantek
!tell KevinMarks just pinged aaronpk about home page update to IWC Germany - if it's something obvious to you like that, feel free to fix it!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@johannesdachsel
Let's kick off day two! #IndieWebCamp #btconf https://twitter.com/johannesdachsel/status/597307174579281920/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGCkhc2b5L)
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aaronparecki.com
edited /Main_Page (-174) "update next to germany" (view diff)
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rhiaro
timezones--
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Loqi
timezones has -8 karma
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aaronpk
on the other hand,
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aaronpk
timezones++
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Loqi
timezones has -7 karma
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 29 minutes ago: how's the realtime display of responses (comments, likes, reposts) working on your notes? I remember something was broken last october - haven't checked since. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-09/line/1431231742445
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aaronpk
hmm i don't know actually, i think i fixed the bug but not totally sure
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tantek
aaronpk - having comments show up on your posts in realtime is definitely worth demoing every opportunity you get
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@jkphl
#IndieWebCamp day 2 earlybirds starting early @sipgateDE +@bastianallgeier @glennjones #btconf https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/597309192928636928/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGDUyDs_h8)
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aaronpk
good call
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tantek.com
edited /How_to_set_up_your_realtime_feed (+166) "dfn and superseded with better docs" (view diff)
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rhiaro
For anyone watching, main subcamps at IWC Dusseldorf day 2 seem to be adding microformats, webmentions, UI stuff, and a few people adding or improving micropub endpoints
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/move]] move * Tantek.com * moved [[How to set up your realtime feed]] to [[How to set up PuSH with Atom]]
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aaronpk
hacking begins!
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fkooman
hacking++
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Loqi
hacking has 1 karma
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tantek.com
edited /How_to_set_up_your_realtime_feed (+11) "redir to PuSH 0.4 + h-entry - now that it works" (view diff)
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fkooman
i'll be available for https/indiecert support. See also my blog post from last night on https: https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/blog/https.html
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aaronparecki.com
edited /How_to_set_up_PuSH_with_Atom (+46) "see also new PuSH page" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /PubSubHubbub (+60) "add explicit How section linking to separate page on it" (view diff)
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tantek
hacking++
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Loqi
hacking has 2 karma
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fkooman
is there anyone with php-fpm + apache experience? it seems to be a disaster to get it working in a secure/reliable way :(
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aaronpk
secure/reliable? why are those related?
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aaronpk
i normally set up fpm with nginx, but i might be able to help
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fkooman
aaronpk, they are not really related, but both are important :)
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fkooman
it should have been secure & reliable
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fkooman
i.e. not run out of sockets after 5 concurrent users etc. :)
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fkooman
https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM
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aaronpk
ooh yeah, you should be able to find that knid of stuff by googling without too much trouble. i don't know the specifics of how apache and fpm work together
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@sipgateDE
RT @Renaade: Day 2 of #indiewebcamp (@ sipgate GmbH - @sipgatede in Düsseldorf) https://www.swarmapp.com/c/kTYzDrTbpXY https://twitter.com/Renaade/status/597302794459164672/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGJBVz0M7C)
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killerog
aaronpk: the link to the documentation on the success page at indieauth.com seems broken. Goes to: https://indieauth.com/documentation
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aaronpk
oh darn, thanks
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killerog
np
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aaronpk
killerog: this is you? https://github.com/killerog
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killerog
yup
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fkooman
aaronpk, is it intentional that if you put your PGP key on your site and link to it, it cannot be a relative URL? I have to use <link href="/fkooman/fkooman.asc" rel="pgpkey"> instead of just "fkooman.asc"
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fkooman
indieauth.com will not detect it otherwise...
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aaronpk
that is not intentional, no
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aaronpk
feel free to file a bug
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Jeena
is there a API for posting to Facebook via brid.gy?
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aaronpk
bridgy publish
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aaronpk
how would people feel about a micropub request for creating a blog post coming in with inline images? e.g. <img src="data:.....
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aaronpk
cause if I don't do anything with this, that's what's going to happen
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Jeena
oh wow, it even honors u-photo
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Jeena
impressive, I guess at least for Facebook it is time to move on from FbGraph to brid.gy
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aaronpk
I really want the image positioning thingy that comes with the medium editor
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killerog
:)
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aaronpk
has anyone written a lorem ipsum generator for generating code samples?
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fkooman
jansauer, https://github.com/fkooman/indiecert/blob/master/docker/indiecert.example.org-httpd.conf#L56
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Aaronparecki.com * uploaded "[[File:fb-private-post-2015.png]]"
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aaronparecki.com
edited /private_posts (+35) "/* Silo Examples */" (view diff)
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aaronpk
michielbdejong: example of facebook showing the audience of a private post http://indiewebcamp.com/private_posts#Silo_Examples
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LukasRos
aaronpk, rhiaro and anyone else who’s publishing like/repost/reply-markup on their site - please help me test and create a like, repost or reply for http://lukasrosenstock.net/post/59359549 and send a webmention.
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rhiaro
LukasRos: juuust as soon as I'm sending webmentions automatically (soon hopefully!)
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raucao
yay http://updates.kip.pe/
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raucao
no ssl yet, because our reseller decided to launch a new control panel that has broken CSR parsing
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raucao
lolssl
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raucao
(or rather tls)
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raucao
someone wants to comment and like and stuff?
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raucao
don't have a second site for testing
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Loqi
[mention] Sebastian Kippe RSVPed yes to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (http://updates.kip.pe/2015/untitled)
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fkooman
raucao, i sent a webmention!
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fkooman
raucao, https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/phubble/4b76c0c7ec03c142c8f2973591bdfed4
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raucao
fkooman: cool, thx
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fkooman
did you get it?
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raucao
apparently http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany doesn't have the event marked up
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raucao
anyone knows if there's a marked up version of this event so i can try rsvping?
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fkooman
raucao, you can also login to https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/phubble/ and try yourself, you can post html and links and stuff :)
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aaronpk
raucao: i see an h-event on that page
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aaronpk
er, h-entry
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rhiaro
LukasRos: http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/05/1431254920
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fkooman
raucao, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webmention/ <-- nice for Firefox! :)
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raucao
fkooman: nice!
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aaronpk
ah i see what you mean, that is confusing, because every wiki page gets an h-entry added by the wiki
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raucao
fkooman: known apparently didn't get it
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aaronpk
this one has an h-event as a child http://indiewebcamp.com/2015
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raucao
i might have to activate webmentions somehow
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fkooman
raucao, hmmm maybe, dunno
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LukasRos
rhiaro + aaronpk: Thanks!
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aaronpk
i also made an h-event on my site, much simpler markup http://aaronparecki.com/events/2015/05/09/1/indiewebcamp
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aaronpk
\o/
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raucao
that almost worked
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raucao
:)
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: rhiaro, whats going on with micropub endpoints there?
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rhiaro
ben_thatmustbeme: not sure other than mine keeps sometimes not working for currently unknown reasons
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rhiaro
>:(
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aaronpk
michielbdejong is experimenting with adding a "recipient" property to publish a post to a limited audience
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@mxstbr
#ST4I and #IndieWebCamp lunch! @btconf https://twitter.com/mxstbr/status/597357707922907136/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGWoounXyw)
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ben_thatmustbeme
rhiaro: thats unfortunate. is your code open source?
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: cool! that will be quite interesting to see
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@glennjones
@tristanbailey @adactio yes @indiewebcamp going well, now on second day in dusseldorf. Adding lots of new features to our web sites (twtr.io/zGXTETrX7j)
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: re images inline, at that point you are just posting HTML source, which is fine, but the post isn't exactly the image post
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk: https://ben.thatmustbe.me/new?type=article&url=https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/05/10/1/d%C3%BCsseldorf
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ben_thatmustbeme
so if anything i'd say all we need is a mp-body-encoding=html or something like that
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ben_thatmustbeme
allows for markdown, etc
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aaronpk
i need to update my micropub endpoint to allow posting HTML content when creating an article
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aaronpk
i'm not sure if that should be specified in the micropub request, or controlled by my micropub endpoint
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aaronpk
but i still have a bunch of UI work to figure out first
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aaronpk
methinks we should get a microformats h-entry parser as a pull request into here https://github.com/itteco/iframely
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rhiaro
aaronpk: when webmention.io gets a wm to a target with a source it's already seen, does it drop it completely?
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rhiaro
ie it de-dups
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rhiaro
or does it check if the source has changed since last time?
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rhiaro
and then drop if it hasn't?
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aaronpk
hmm
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aaronpk
i believe it always reparses it
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aaronpk
it only sends an IRC notification the first time it gets a mention tho
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fkooman
aaronpk, i'm waiting for that yes, to be able to use quill to post HTML to micropub endpoint :-)
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fkooman
then i can move my blog over to that :-)
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aaronpk
ah nice
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aaronpk
you're gonna love this editor then :)
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fkooman
awesome :D
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aaronpk
time for messing with localforage
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@danielpietzsch
Adding h-entry Microformat markup to this blog #IndieWebCamp http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118601543603/adding-h-entry-microformat-markup-to-this-blog#_=_ (twtr.io/zGaQ7WSkFj)
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@skddc
Setting up Known at #indiewebcamp. You might even see this on Twitter. http://updates.kip.pe/2015/setting-up-known-at-indiewebcamp-you-might-even-see-this (twtr.io/zGaSaNZtd8)
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raucao
my first POSSE http://updates.kip.pe/2015/setting-up-known-at-indiewebcamp-you-might-even-see-this https://twitter.com/skddc/status/597370667764441088
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@skddc
Setting up Known at #indiewebcamp. You might even see this on Twitter. http://updates.kip.pe/2015/setting-up-known-at-indiewebcamp-you-might-even-see-this (twtr.io/zGaSaNZtd8)
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aaronpk
\o/
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raucao
nice, likes and replies are also published automatically
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raucao
aaand replied back directly on twitter.com via known firefox service. i think i reached my goal for today :)
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raucao
oops, sry for spamming the channel. hadn't seen the twitter bot thing
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118601543603 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118601543603 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started#Add_microformats_to_your_content (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118524159623 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118507175853 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany (webmention)
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raucao
fkooman: http://updates.kip.pe/2015/hi-there-
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raucao
doesn't appear on https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/phubble/4b76c0c7ec03c142c8f2973591bdfed4
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raucao
probably intentional
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raucao
but maybe you received a webmention?
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fkooman
i am fixing my webmention suppot now
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fkooman
so it shows next to the posts if it is mentioned, i just have to figure out stupid htaccess to send the link header
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LukasRos
Yay, incoming webmentions are working now and nicely displayed along with replies from app.net. See example here: http://lukasrosenstock.net/post/59359549
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@bastianallgeier
@bastianallgeier just a web mentions test http://bastianallgeier.com/notes/webmentions (twtr.io/zGcYWFALij)
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LukasRos
All source is on GitHub in case you want to look at my webmentions implementation: https://github.com/LukasRos/phpADNSite/
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fkooman
raucao, i'm using the firefox webmention plugin to send webmentions, but it doesn't log anything...so hard to know what is going on
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Loqi
Welcome to news about the IndieWeb where recent notable articles about the IndieWeb are cited and linked to keep you up to date https://indiewebcamp.com/going_on
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fkooman
hmm apache rewrites throw away the headers you set, useful
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raucao
fkooman: i'll try to set up better logging on mine
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raucao
also, URLs will change in a few minutes because https :/
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aaronpk
send redirects!
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raucao
of course
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fkooman
hmm i can receive webmentions now and they are shown next to the posts now, but the webmention addon in firefox does not work :/
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raucao
ah
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raucao
lucky for me, that means known's webmention support might not be broken :)
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@bastianallgeier
Could please someone do me a favour and fav this tweet. Got to try something out. Will be deleted later. http://bastianallgeier.com/notes/webmentions (twtr.io/zGd7R2D6Lq)
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Vendan
hrm, gonna need to come up with a name for my software
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raucao
fkooman: can you send another mention to that post?
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raucao
or any post for that matter
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fkooman
i just did :)
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raucao
:)
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fkooman
but not sure it works, because it doesn't work for me...
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fkooman
maybe the webmention addon only looks at the html and not the http headers...
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raucao
yer, can't see anything
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fkooman
can you try and send me one?
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raucao
yup
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fkooman
also doesn't work it seems ;)
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raucao
done
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fkooman
raucao, ah okay:) still didn't get anything...i also get an email :)
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@bastianallgeier
Thank you guys!!! You can see the wip here: http://bastianallgeier.com/notes/webmentions BTW: I love web mentions :D (twtr.io/zGe2XeGFRs)
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michielbdejong.com
edited /indieweb-messaging (+139) "/* Protocol Flow */ idea: IndieAuth login screen instead of 401" (view diff)
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killerog
Could somebody try to send me a webmention? http://www.killerog.com/blog/2015/05/09/hello-world/
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aaronpk
fyi this is a great site that will send a bunch of test webmentions https://checkmention.appspot.com/
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killerog
thanks!
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michielbdejong.com
edited /indieweb-messaging (-50) "/* Protocol Flow */ Combine 401 response with login screen" (view diff)
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118601543603/adding-h-entry-microformat-markup-to-this-blog linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started#Add_microformats_to_your_content (webmention)
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118601543603/adding-h-entry-microformat-markup-to-this-blog linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (webmention)
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raucao
could someone with working webmentions send me one to any of https://updates.kip.pe/ ?
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LukasRos
aaronpk: Have you intentionally removed app.net support from IndieAuth?
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michielbdejong.com
edited /indieweb-messaging (+249) "/* Option 1 */ Display p-recipient elements" (view diff)
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raucao
much appreciated
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aaronpk
LukasRos: yes, turns out i hadn't paid my app.net developer fee so they disabled the app!
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LukasRos
Ah ok, just wondering because yesterday it was working but not today.
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aaronpk
i can afford a few cents here and there for SMS auth for everyone, but $100/yr is a bit much ;)
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aaronpk
was it actually working, or just showing up in the list?
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LukasRos
Until yesterday, yes, all well.
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aaronpk
weird!
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aaronpk
they must have just disabled it today
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aaronpk
it was returning an invalid_client error today
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@justb3a
first try to publish to twitter via processwire #indiewebcamp #btconf #processwire (twtr.io/zGgJBsN_XU)
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aaronpk
it worked :)
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LukasRos
I feel I’ve done enough for my own site today. Anyone wants my help with theirs?
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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fkooman
aaronpk, hmm it just adds 4 webmentions to my site...why would it want to block some of them? are you supposed to display the html from this page in-line?
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aaronpk
which are you talking about?
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@justb3a
just twitter posts which have the category `tweet` assigned #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/zGgvLy_HXj)
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@skddc
Hacking at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/skddc/status/597388890631053312/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGgxA7x5vC)
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fkooman
checkmention, it works! :) https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/phubble/d080698b3e98cc0fb4f2b29718d90c65
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fkooman
raucao, is it working for you as well?
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@skddc
Turns out Known's Twitter integration is ace. Goodbye, Silo! #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/zGhA9S2RCY)
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michielbdejong.com
edited /indieweb-messaging (+692) "/* Notes */ Add ideas about impact on micropub and feeds" (view diff)
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@danielpietzsch
@adactio wrote up a short summary of Day 1 of the #IndieWebCamp Düsseldorf. http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118605314113/adactio-journal-100-words-048#_=_ (twtr.io/zGhSeCLCsG)
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Vendan
so ideally, a microformats2 parser should work with any future microformat added to microformats2?
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@justb3a
save returned twitter id to be able to link to the tweet #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/zGhdbewToG)
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aaronpk
Vendan: the parsing happens outside of knowledge of the vocabulary
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aaronpk
so something like <div class="h-foo"><span class="p-bar">baz</span></div> will parse just fine
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Vendan
so, that's a yes? I shouldn't be doing any kind of a "h-card needs these elements" and such?
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Vendan
k
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aaronpk
are you writing a parser?
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aaronpk
then yes
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Vendan
yeap :)
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aaronpk
in that case definitely read http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing
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aaronpk
it has all the edge cases
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Vendan
yeah, that's what I'm looking at
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@justb3a
forgot to save the page after setting twitter post id #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/zGhwsumwhf)
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aaronpk
cool
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Vendan
it's just slightly odd, cause golang stresses very hard type safety
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Vendan
not that hard to do according to the docs, just odd
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@btconf
RT @mxstbr: #ST4I and #IndieWebCamp lunch! @btconf https://twitter.com/mxstbr/status/597357707922907136/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGjKuf6NHc)
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@zerstoerer
oo, looks as though @bastianallgeier's kirby cms will have web mentions and comments via twitter? this BIG for me. http://bastianallgeier.com/notes/webmentions (twtr.io/zGjRLXqaej)
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@btconf
RT @jkphl: #IndieWebCamp day 2 earlybirds starting early @sipgateDE +@bastianallgeier @glennjones #btconf https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/597309192928636928/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGjUbNN6DM)
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@btconf
RT @johannesdachsel: Let's kick off day two! #IndieWebCamp #btconf https://twitter.com/johannesdachsel/status/597307174579281920/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGjVNGAKXC)
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@bastianallgeier
@zerstoerer yep, I’m currently working on it: https://github.com/bastianallgeier/kirby-webmentions (twtr.io/zGjWxp2MHs)
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@Renaade
Finally have my page updated with Microformats 2. *yeah #IndieWebCamp (twtr.io/zGjjdEp_rj)
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aaronpk
FIFTEEN MINUTES UNTIL DEMOS
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killerog
runs away screaming
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GWG
killerog: Replied to your github issue.
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Vendan
another question, the parsed json result, is it supposed to be identical between all parsers? i.e. is that part of the spec, or just recommendations?
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killerog
ah, thx. right back at ya GWG
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aaronpk
omg it works
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GWG
aaronpk: What does
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aaronpk
fancy new quill
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adactio
aaronpk: a parser should be able to find microformat root classes on the html element, right? e.g. <html class="h-feed">
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aaronpk
i believe so. certainly on the body tag
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aaronpk
php-mf2 has no trouble with <html class="h-entry">
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adactio
aaronpk: it seems to be having an issue with <html class="h-feed">
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aaronpk
the php one?
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aaronpk
looks like it should work http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.githubusercontent.com%2Faaronpk%2F0ed7802b3d2495c31530%2Fraw%2F750d5bad85f50f508f7f03b9969b013a2888c4ec%2Fgistfile1.txt
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adactio
aaronpk: here's the problematic page: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.danielpietzsch.com%2F
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adactio
aaronpk: looks like it could be Tumblr's doing: it inserts script elements willy-nilly.
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fkooman
raucao, curl -i -d 'source=https://www.tuxed.net/fkooman/phubble/d7ac1cd0a6a159dcd25545ddff475f3e&target=https://updates.kip.pe/2015/ohai-from-known' https://updates.kip.pe/webmention/
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Vendan
question, does it make sense for a single element to have multiple p-*,u-* and so on classes?
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Vendan
and if so, how does it get added to the properties map, as each class individually?
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@killerog
Posting to twitter: from my blog at #indiewebcamp http://killerog.com/2015/05/10/posting-to-twitter/ (twtr.io/zGnm4Fi1gN)
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@Renaade
That's interesting: IndieAuth + WordPress https://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Plugins #IndieWebCamp (twtr.io/zGo1uzE59L)
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aaronpk
adactio: that's really odd
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aaronpk
Vendan: yes, that's hinted at here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parse_an_element_for_class_microformats
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aaronpk
adactio: if i take out the script tag at the top the parser has no problem
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aaronpk
i'm not sure why that would be causing an issue for it though
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@bastianallgeier
@fhemberger https://github.com/bastianallgeier/kirby-webmentions (twtr.io/zGoPr39Db0)
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adactio
Here's my code for sending webmentions from my site (I'm using it for the /links section) https://gist.github.com/adactio/e9c3b157dcd865dec6ca
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aaronpk
for anyone remote who wants to watch demos, we'll be at https://beta.talky.io/iwc in a few minutes!
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Vendan
wooo
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Vendan
there's people!
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rhiaro
DEMO TIME
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aaronpk
https://beta.talky.io/iwc
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@taxiphilosoph
RT @Renaade: Finally have my page updated with Microformats 2. *yeah #IndieWebCamp (twtr.io/zGp5F8qqf0)
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Vendan
I'm watching :)
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rhiaro
aaronpk: You all saw Quill yesterday. What I did today was add a new posting interface for articles
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rhiaro
... started from scratch
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rhiaro
... somebody already did the hard work of making Medium style text editing
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rhiaro
*aaronpk demos amazing looking UI*
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rhiaro
... even has a photo upload thing
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rhiaro
... with alignment etc
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rhiaro
... the crazy thing is it just puts the image data into the webpage
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@jkphl
Demo time @indiewebcamp! #btconf https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/597409405693472768/photo/1 (twtr.io/zGpGsfHvm8)
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rhiaro
... Saves as you type, autosave to local storage
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rhiaro
... works offline
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rhiaro
... publishes to micropub, everything in html is sent
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Vendan
any way we could see the actual demo...?
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rhiaro
... image data is embedded, didn't need to do a file upload
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rhiaro
Vendan: any good?
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Vendan
not horrible
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Vendan
not great :)
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rhiaro
sorry it's backlit
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rhiaro
aaronpk: needs a way to edit post
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Vendan
that's not really the issue
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rhiaro
... wanted to do a drop down with more information about publishing
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rhiaro
... and need to handle errors
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Vendan
issue is screen has banding issues, cause of lcd and camera
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rhiaro
Vendan: probably not much we can do about that
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rhiaro
sorry :(
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Vendan
nope
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rhiaro
aaronpk: Also whilst learning about appcache yesterday, made Teacup into offline app
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rhiaro
... speeds it up a ton, but doesn't save the post
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rhiaro
... and added date and time for backdating food posts
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Vendan
lol, for web stuff, demo from the computer that's running talky.io and share screen from there?
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rhiaro
Vendan: we're all switching computers
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rhiaro
using our own
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rhiaro
aaronpk is using localforage
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@FlowFXx
@bastianallgeier Very cool! I'm looking forward to the webmentions plugin. (twtr.io/zGpeh6_kgL)
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rhiaro
adactio: Goal was to send webmentions (already accept them)
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rhiaro
... most important for bookmarks
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rhiaro
... it worked :)
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rhiaro
... code is on github
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rhiaro
... actual webmention part was straightfoward. Dealing with html and urls that was complicated
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rhiaro
... was using regular expressions, more problems, then realised it was madness, used DOM instead
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rhiaro
... most of the code dealing with possible non-absolute urls for wm endpoints
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rhiaro
... Next steps, every time I publish something on blog to loop through any links and do the same thing
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rhiaro
... Should go into queue, often have a lot of links
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aaronpk
http://stefan-auditor.de/
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rhiaro
Stefan: setup Drupal, stefan-auditor.de
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@danielpietzsch
130/365: Demo time at #IndieWebCamp. @aaronpk goes first. http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118610275298/130-365-demo-time-at-indiewebcamp-aaron-parecki#_=_ (twtr.io/zGq1mb1XJQ)
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rhiaro
... set up indieauth, log in with quill
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rhiaro
... created micropub endpoint for drupal
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rhiaro
*demos posting with quill including reply and location*
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rhiaro
... it worked :)
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rhiaro
(also renders map, nice)
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rhiaro
... is a drupal module, not published on drupal.org yet still some issues
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rhiaro
... drupal is a multiuser system, don't know which user authenticated
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rhiaro
... need some settings for primary user, or need to use userid to authenticate
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rhiaro
... everything else was straightfoward, copied from adactio's gist
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rhiaro
... Other thing I wanted to was add microformats, no solution in drupal other than editing template
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rhiaro
... So wrote a module for that too
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rhiaro
... Defines a mapping. Add fields to all content via the backend, so it's not easy to hardcode semantics
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rhiaro
... Didn't want to depend on theme for microformats
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rhiaro
... Module defines mapping field name => mf property
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rhiaro
... Can now set variable in drupal with mapping
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rhiaro
... On post page, javascript also parses and displays microformats
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rhiaro
... including h-card for user
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rhiaro
... So totally independant from theme, and avoids themers stripping out markup
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rhiaro
... It was simpler to add micropub endpoint than classes...
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rhiaro
... This is a longstanding drupal issue
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rhiaro
... going to add backend to add the mapping
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rhiaro
... Third thing was finish webmention support, already started on that a few weeks ago
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rhiaro
... Submodule for an existing pingback/trackback module
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rhiaro
... Already published on drupal.org as dev release
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rhiaro
... *demos*
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rhiaro
... receiving and sending
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh cool, drupal plug-in
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rhiaro
Johann: wanted to hijack instagram interface to upload, use ownyourgram, then delete
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rhiaro
... but instagram API won't let you delete your images!
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rhiaro
... you can delete likes, comments
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rhiaro
... Tried to delete via web interface, but couldn't find that either, had to do it through app
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rhiaro
... (but does have posting via ownyourgram)
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rhiaro
... then, integrating twitter to processwire
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rhiaro
... post from quill to my site, creates new post and publishes it for me
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rhiaro
... same to instagram
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rhiaro
... tweet from my site, just need to create a new note and select category 'tweet'
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rhiaro
... *demos*
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@johannesdachsel
Nice tweet from #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/zGr7hD6iZL)
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rhiaro
^^^^
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rhiaro
... Next steps, implement webmentions
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rhiaro
... if anyone uses processwire, module is on github
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Loqi
[mention] http://blog.danielpietzsch.com/post/118610275298/130-365-demo-time-at-indiewebcamp-aaron-parecki posted '130/365: Demo time at IndieWebCamp. Aaron Parecki went first. ' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Germany
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rhiaro
Bastian: webmentions plugin for kirby
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aaronpk
http://bastianallgeier.com
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rhiaro
... all file based. Hidden folder for webmentions with json files
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rhiaro
... also pings json that caches endpoints you have pinged
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rhiaro
... also stores images in location you choose, including user images so you don't run into mixed content problems
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rhiaro
... spent time making templates nice
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rhiaro
... *shows really pretty UI*
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@aaronpk
IndieWebCamp Germany demos are starting! Watch live at https://beta.talky.io/iwc (twtr.io/zGrRNt_Ugc)
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rhiaro
... separates likes, mentions, replies
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rhiaro
... very customiseable in template
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rhiaro
... also connected to bridgy, works nicely
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rhiaro
... Kirby has markdown extension
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rhiaro
... added so you can write "like: url" and it creates link with like-of attribute
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rhiaro
... Also started to build something I will convert to micropub endpoint
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rhiaro
... integrates with zapier(?) to store tweets
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rhiaro
... Plugin on github
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rhiaro
... Started docs
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aaronpk
https://github.com/bastianallgeier/kirby-webmentions
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rhiaro
Steffen: Also Kirby
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rhiaro
... Added microformats
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rhiaro
... Added micropub endpoint to post with Quill
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rhiaro
... *signs into quill*
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rhiaro
... *posts*
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rhiaro
... Post structure is custom, so made a script to parse content from quill
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rhiaro
does this too.. ^^
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rhiaro
... posts markdown
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rhiaro
yay I'm not the only one :D ^^
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Loqi
yay!
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rhiaro
... In the background, creates a new folder in Kirby and inside creates article file, contains markdown and metadata
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rhiaro
Frederic: Changed from static site to Kirby
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aaronpk
http://fmarx.com/
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rhiaro
... microformats, SMS for indieauth with mobile
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rhiaro
... Also collected ideas for how an indieweb medium could look like
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rhiaro
... Reasons to use medium: easy and delightful, low threshold, comments and interactions
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rhiaro
... Could do 1) with tooltip wysiwyg, beautiful typography, auto-embed linked media
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rhiaro
... Low threshold: needs script, easy to deploy, multiple format options, shouldn't have to set up whole blog
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ben_thatmustbeme
lots of Kirby at this IWC
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rhiaro
... Comments and interactions: likes and replies with webmentions. Reader is also publishing app. Fragments
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rhiaro
... made a mockup
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rhiaro
... Important that if you see an article like that you can reply, then choose to publish/download/share/etc
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rhiaro
Rogier: Site yesterday was one page with links
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aaronpk
Rogier - http://killerog.com/
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rhiaro
... Today, installed Wordpress, has lots of plugins
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@bastianallgeier
So many cool demos at the #indiewebcamp. What a great weekend! (twtr.io/zGsZmc1jtL)
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rhiaro
... First hacked microformats into default 2015 template
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rhiaro
GWG: ^^
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rhiaro
... then read about WP on indiewebcamp wiki
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@justb3a
post to twitter and my own website using Quill #indiewebcamp #quill (twtr.io/zGsbPMXZkb)
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rhiaro
... indieauth also has a plugin
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rhiaro
... then webmentions
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david.shanske.com
edited /WordPress_Plugins (+110) "/* Publishing to Your Site */" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... sending and receiving
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rhiaro
... Then Teacup
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rhiaro
... And posts to twitter
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rhiaro
... also via plugin
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@killerog
to twitter: posting for #indiewebcamp http://killerog.com/2015/05/10/to-twitter/ (twtr.io/zGsrJXaJ2g)
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rhiaro
Daniel: Added microformats
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aaronpk
http://www.danielpietzsch.com/
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rhiaro
... Started with webmentions, can accept
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rhiaro
... using webmention.io
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rhiaro
... and sending
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Vendan
woot, microformat parser can parse https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/blob/master/tests/test-suite/test-suite-data/h-card/hcard/input.html now!
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killerog
The wordpress page is here btw, for those interested: http://indiewebcamp.com/wordpress
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rhiaro
... Sent PR to aaron for Monocle to fix css for images
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GWG
killerog: I'm very interested.
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rhiaro
(that was tumblr)
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rhiaro
LukasRos: implemented webmentions, particularly receiving
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aaronpk
http://lukasrosenstock.net/
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rhiaro
... Uses app.net as backend
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rhiaro
... show on Treeview which is app.net client. Posts from webmentions are created on app.net from own account
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rhiaro
... made webmention parser building on phpmf2 library
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rhiaro
... parses page to see what kind of reply it is
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killerog
GWG: It mostly came down to install sempress theme first, and then thte indieweb plugin and related plugins that are already mentioned in the description of that plugin. And Social for posting to twitter/facebook https://wordpress.org/plugins/social/
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rhiaro
... next is to implement sending
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killerog
Indieweb is here btw: https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ and sempress: http://notizblog.org/projects/sempress/
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LukasRos
My webmention implementation is also already committed to the GitHub repository: https://github.com/LukasRos/phpADNSite
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tantek
wakes up and joins talky.
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GWG
killerog: I'm familiar with them.
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rhiaro
Glenn: Ripped out notes editor from site so other people can use it
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rhiaro
... not quite done
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rhiaro
... As I type into editor, you see updates to text, html, json version with microformats
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tantek
noticed sound just dropped, reloading.
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rhiaro
... adds links as you type
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rhiaro
... dynamically monitors typing and updates everything
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rhiaro
... other box is for tags. You type #tags in editor and it creates comma separated list
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rhiaro
... And it has a counter
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rhiaro
... when it hits 140 it goes red, but you can keep going
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GWG
I think I will take a break from rewriting Post Kinds in an object oriented manner to avoid global scoped functions and go eat something.
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rhiaro
... When it's done it'll be javascript, css and icons file
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rhiaro
... CSS needs to be wrapped
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rhiaro
... In the future, webcomponant
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rhiaro
... Bug with selection of ranges
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rhiaro
... *blames browsers*
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rhiaro
... on github
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aaronpk
https://github.com/glennjones/note-editor
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rhiaro
... go watch it, you'll get updates when it's ready to use
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bret
rhiaro++
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tantek
slept laptop / rewoke, and talky works again now. weird network issue (local).
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Loqi
rhiaro has 88 karma
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bret
ty for the notes
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rhiaro
... will hijack a textarea
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aaronpk
rhiaro++
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Loqi
rhiaro has 89 karma
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tantek
rhiaro++ for minuting the demos!
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Loqi
dude
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tantek
aw Loqi
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Loqi
grins profusely
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rhiaro
Jan: Goal was to work with indiecert
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rhiaro
... already had indieauth with github and twitter
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rhiaro
... Renewed SSL cert
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aaronpk
https://jansauer.de/
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rhiaro
... and improved SSL report and added certificate pinning (more secure)
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rhiaro
... now using StartSSL
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rhiaro
... With indiecert, use html keygen to generate certificate
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rhiaro
... Wanted to see if it'll work generating cert myself, used OpenSSL
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rhiaro
... Can use own organisation name, easier to organise
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rhiaro
... imported into browser
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KevinMarks_
adactio: is this what you were expecting? http://www.unmung.com/mf2?url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.danielpietzsch.com&pretty=on
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rhiaro
... add fingerprint into html. First copied from indiecert, but also checked it's really my fingerprint, so used OpenSSL to generate fingerprint myself, to verify code on indiecert works
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Loqi
KevinMarks_: tantek left you a message 7 hours, 45 minutes ago: just pinged aaronpk about home page update to IWC Germany - if it's something obvious to you like that, feel free to fix it! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10/line/1431243975106
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rhiaro
... So far it works
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aaronpk
(KevinMarks_ I fixed it btw)
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rhiaro
Joschi: First thing, add more auth providers to website
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rhiaro
... PGP key (fiddly to find out how to sign that), email, google authenticator
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adactio
KevinMarks: yes, that looks right.
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rhiaro
... Started on micropub endpoint
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tantek
(this is all amazing! read the logs and caught up. so much implementation!)
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rhiaro
... Spent most of the day updating tool to parse microformats and schema.org
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rhiaro
... built on phpmf2 library
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rhiaro
aaronpk can you post link? I can't see it..
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aaronpk
http://micrometa.jkphl.is/
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rhiaro
... had to update lots to parse nested schema.org
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aaronpk
and http://jkphl.is/
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adactio
tantek: I am absolutely blown away by how much people got done today. Amazing!
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aaronpk
rhiaro: http://rhiaro.co.uk
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aaronpk
now sending webmentions automatically
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aaronpk
... sending a "like" with quill
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tantek
rhiaro++ for minuting the demos, and getting automatic webmentions working!
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Loqi
rhiaro has 90 karma
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aaronpk
... aww it didn't work! (I swear it worked)
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aaronpk
(showing one from earlier)
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aaronpk
http://rhiaro.co.uk/likes
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aaronpk
.. when I post likes, replies, bookmarks, etc, it now sends webmentions automatically
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aaronpk
... and the like shows up on aaron's site
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Vendan
ugh, got really echoy
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aaronpk
... also discovered loads of bugs in my "everything" and spent some time fixing htem
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aaronpk
... I didn't want to post straight to twitter automatically, so I made a twitter intent button
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aaronpk
... made it a retweet intent so others can use it, I delete the RT before posting
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aaronpk
Auli https://kirilind.me/ up next, demoing http://labs.ouishare.net
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aaronpk
rhiaro can you take over again you're better ;)
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rhiaro
aaronpk: sure ;P
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rhiaro
Auli: webmentions for Jekyll
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rhiaro
... uses JekMention
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rhiaro
(^^ ?)
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aaronpk
was testing with https://checkmention.appspot.com/
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rhiaro
oh
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tantek
hey I see adactio.com on the screen
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tantek
who is demoing now?
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tantek
???: shows Qualys SSL Labs F rating
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tantek
worse than just http, claiming https when it's not
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rhiaro
??: Improved HTTPS, managed to bring it up to a B. It's Plesk
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tantek
… fixed a bunch, now gets a B
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aaronpk
https://ami.responsivedesign.is/ is the site being demo'd
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rhiaro
... need to improve
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aaronpk
from https://twitter.com/justinavery
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rhiaro
wishes everyone would wear their namebadge :p
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tantek
What is Plesk?
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aaronpk
http://surfthedream.com.au/
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "Plesk" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Plesk&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-10%2Fline%2F1431272709227
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rhiaro
... Then added microformats
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rhiaro
... And wrote a blog post about this
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aaronpk
amazing blog post on this! http://surfthedream.com.au/writing/enabling-https-ssl-on-your-site/
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tantek
blogging++
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Loqi
blogging has 1 karma
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killerog
only 1?
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KevinMarks
glennjones: I made a tweet preview in noterlive.com - you can pinch that
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rhiaro
Sebastian : Don't want to post to twitter first, half worked, half didn't.
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aaronpk
https://sebastian.kip.pe/
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rhiaro
... Known
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rhiaro
... Errors with checkins POSSEing to foursquare
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@t
#IndieWebCamp Germany demos are live on https://beta.takly.io/iwc and are amazing! #webmention #micropub #microformats2 (ttk.me t4b51) (twtr.io/zGvtMbWCUo)
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rhiaro
... RSVPing to events (this representation of my person is RSVPing) but theme doesn't display it
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aaronpk
... sent an RSVP to one of aaron's posts http://aaronparecki.com/events/2015/05/09/1/indiewebcamp https://updates.kip.pe/2015/untitled
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rhiaro
... Then had to write a privacy policy because you can't set up a foursquare application without that
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rhiaro
... Then Bridgy
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rhiaro
... Don't get any webmentions back
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rhiaro
... Seems to be a Known bug
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Vendan
woot, http://vendaria.net/ is now running the initial build of my software now !
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rhiaro
... Pictures working nicely
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rhiaro
... Whole picture also gets posted to twitter natively
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rhiaro
... Wrote a post about twitter integration being great, then twitter integration stopped working
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rhiaro
... And changed site to be https
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rhiaro
... That might have caused a problem
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rhiaro
... Outgoing everything is fine, incoming not everything works
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rhiaro
... Happy I can post to my site instead of twitter
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@jkphl
Fixed some long-term bugs of http://micrometa.jkphl.is today, now properly parsing nested http://schema.org #IndieWebCamp #microformats2 (twtr.io/zGwJs11Y5L)
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rhiaro
Nick: New website for sockethub that breaks up all posts into markdown, and static site generator to create html
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aaronpk
https://silverbucket.net/
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rhiaro
... Before it was one big html file, was getting a pita to update
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rhiaro
... Added microformats markup to templates
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rhiaro
... Worked on accepting webmentions and storing them in remotestorage
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rhiaro
... Not quite done
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rhiaro
... Using webmention.io for now
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rhiaro
... but not doing anything with them yet, want to make a script that whenever I rebuild site it fetches webmentions
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rhiaro
... Still not sure what to do about sending webmentions
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... Currently no state
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... Don't want to send them every time I rerun build script
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rhiaro
... Gotta figure out something graceful for that
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aaronpk
Michiel
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http://michielbdejong.com
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rhiaro
Michiel: Started building something to post to a limited audience
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... Edited indiewebcamp wiki based on what I've been doing
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rhiaro
... Idea is you have to sign in with indieauth to see a post
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aaronpk
here are a bunch of his edits http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?title=indieweb-messaging&curid=877&diff=19160&oldid=19100
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rhiaro
... Problem with webmention not being able to auth to verify
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rhiaro
... Initially gets 401 saying they have to login
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rhiaro
... Done in such a way that a machine can use a indieauth token as a bearer token
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rhiaro
... And then done in the same way as feeds
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rhiaro
s/as/for
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Loqi
rhiaro meant to say: ... And then done in the same way for feeds
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rhiaro
... Would be nice to also support putting the token in the url query string, so you could bookmark the feed with the query and any feed reader can retreive it
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rhiaro
... And for micropub you post with 'recipients'
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rhiaro
... Need to check a site supports recipients
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rhiaro
... Display recipients so person reading knows who it went to and won't share
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rhiaro
... And trying to make cozycloud, owncloud and known interoperable
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rhiaro
... Will work on this at OuiShare next week
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rhiaro
Aaaaany more demos?
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rhiaro
Guess not
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rhiaro
Success.
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tantek
did adactio just make a joke about CMSs?
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killerog
CMS FTW
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rhiaro
TO BBQ
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killerog
indiewebcamp++
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Loqi
indiewebcamp has 5 karma
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tantek
congrats everyone at IndieWebCamp Germany!
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adactio
OMGWTFBBQ!
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tantek
thanks organizers aaronpk adactio
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rhiaro
tantek: "I guess that's why you use CMSes, to get done in one day what it's taken me a couple of years"
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tantek
adactio++
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killerog
don't forget rhiaro++
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Loqi
adactio has 15 karma
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tantek
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 799 karma
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KevinMarks
is aaronpk's new quill up online?
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tantek
KevinMarks: the aaronpk develops, it's likely already live
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aaronpk
KevinMarks: not yet unfortunately
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tantek
lol oops ;)
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aaronpk
i am not comfortable publishing it until it handles errors a little better
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sanduhrs
Three more building blocks for a Drupal based IndieWeb:
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sanduhrs
Vinculum https://github.com/sanduhrs/vinculum
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sanduhrs
Microformats2 https://github.com/sanduhrs/microformats2
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Micropub https://github.com/sanduhrs/micropub
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@One2Ad_com
RT @t: #IndieWebCamp Germany demos are live on https://beta.takly.io/iwc and are amazing! #webmention #micropub #microformats2 (ttk.me t4b51) (twtr.io/zGxMu2Fjmw)
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tantek
hey Vendan - saw you were asking about microformats2 parsing earlier - I'm happy to help answer any questions!
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Vendan
No real questions right now
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Vendan
taking a little time to build a parser in golang while I'm working on my site software
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KevinMarks
vendan - if you want another reference, see unmung,com that hosts the mf2py parser
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tantek
nice Vendan!
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Vendan
it's already able to parse some simple microformats stuff
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Vendan
still gotta implement the value-class-pattern, but once I have that, p-* and u-* will be parsing correctly
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Vendan
on top of the h-* stuff
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@t
#IndieWebCamp Germany demos all done. They’re off to BBQ but see extensive notes by @rhiaro: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10#t1431268323324 (ttk.me t4b52) (twtr.io/zGxsoxa9wH)
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Vendan
need to make 5 more repos on github just to push all the code I'm writing :)
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tantek
KevinMarks: could you add that to http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#Python
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tantek
Vendan - lots more references (to see what other parser do) here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#Parsers
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tantek
s/parser do/parsers do
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: Vendan - lots more references (to see what other parsers do) here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#Parsers
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Vendan
I found https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/tree/master/tests/test-suite/test-suite-data
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Vendan
going through that, trying to get at least a general matchup
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tantek
needs to incorporate resolved issues from microformats2-parsing-issues and accepted brainstorming from microformats2-parsing-brainstorming into microformats2-parsing
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Jeena
thank Ryan Barrett and Kyle Mahan for bridgy, I don't think I would have the nerve to reimplement the whole Facebook POSSE with another shitty and non backwards compatible Facebook API
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tantek
Vendan, that's a great test suite
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Vendan
my json is in a different order in some cases, but that's not really relevant
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tantek
Vendan the order of keys/fields does not matter, but array ordering does (since it reflects document order)
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Vendan
part of that is golang randomizes map iteration :D
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tantek
sounds useful for debugging :)
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Vendan
yeah, array ordering is fine
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Vendan
that's one of the reasons they do it, so you don't get caught out by a map always being in a certain order
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Vendan
cause a map doesn't have a defined order
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snarfed
Jeena: you're welcome! hope it's working ok
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Jeena
the first notes test worked gloriously! Now I'm adding it to the photos code too
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ben_thatmustbeme
Yeah, without bridgy a lot of us would not be syndicating to FB & twitter
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ben_thatmustbeme
snarfed++
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Loqi
snarfed has 102 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme
kylewm++
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Loqi
kylewm has 165 karma
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Jeena
snarfed++
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Loqi
snarfed has 103 karma
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Jeena
kylewm++
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snarfed
thanks guys!
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Loqi
slow down!
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ben_thatmustbeme
haha
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Jeena
:D
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Loqi
hahahaha
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh Loqi, you are so silly
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Loqi
yeah!
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GWG
We shouldn't forget kylewm. He is a large contributor to Bridgy
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Loqi
+1
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GWG
Oh, good, we didn't
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmmm. rel="p-recipient h-card" really make sense https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?diff=19159&oldid=19158&rcid=19163
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ben_thatmustbeme
in a rel?
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ttepasse
Speaking of, what abou Loqi++?
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snarfed
speaking of which, kylewm made #bridgy recently, feel free to ask q's in there if we're there too and you don't want to spam this channel
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ben_thatmustbeme
that was supposed to say 'does rel="p-recipient h-card" really make sense?'
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Jeena
Neat, so I was able to fix FB Posse just two days before my South Korea journey where I guess I will post many photos and notes
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@rhiaro
RT @t: #IndieWebCamp Germany demos all done. They’re off to BBQ but see extensive notes by @rhiaro: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10#t1431268323324 (ttk.me t4b52) (twtr.io/zGzzsFW_A8)
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: it does not. rel is only for page-scoped stuff. not microformats2 properties or root objects.
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Loqi
[bridgy] Amy Guy retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10#t1431268323324 (https://twitter.com/rhiaro/status/597439405180203008)
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GWG
Jeena: I have a month till my vacation. Better work on that.
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Jeena
hehe yeah!
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tantek
now was that an indie repost or just a twitter retweet rhiaro ? ;)
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rhiaro
It was a twitter retweet, I honestly tried to repost it myself but twitter wouldn't let me copy your url easily and I had my hands full :p
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rhiaro
and in related news, I think my micropub endpoint is mysteriously broken again
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rhiaro
So I've abandoned all food to investigate
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rhiaro
-> investigating
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rhiaro
howver, if I had, it *should* have sent you a webmention :p I'll try again shortly..
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tantek
rhiaro: I do have webactions setup on my permalinks - perhaps we can get that working to send an indieaction to your UI
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tantek
so that from the note on my site, you can click the "Repost" button/link, and have it pop open your posting UI
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rhiaro
back in 45 minutes
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snarfed
rhiaro: also feel free to check out https://github.com/snarfed/ownyourresponses as a way to own your RTs of other people
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rhiaro
snarfed: I can already repost, just not right now..
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Loqi
[bridgy] Robin Taylor favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10#t1431268323324 (https://twitter.com/t/status/597433477303115777)
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@webgefrickel
RT @mxstbr: #ST4I and #IndieWebCamp lunch! @btconf https://twitter.com/mxstbr/status/597357707922907136/photo/1 (twtr.io/zH1xyWRP3V)
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tantek.com
created /2015/Germany/ (+26) "r" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /2015/Germany/Demos (+307) "add link to IRC notes to start this off" (view diff)
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edited /2015/Germany/Demos (+1) "=" (view diff)
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edited /2015/Germany/Demos (+343) "start day demos and hack day demos" (view diff)
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Loqi
[bridgy] Ben Michel favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10#t1431268323324 (https://twitter.com/t/status/597433477303115777)
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tantek.com
edited /2015/Germany/Demos (+851) "add adactio start day demo, start on aaronpk" (view diff)
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tantek
well that's a start at least - hopefully other folks can jump in and help out!
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Vendan
microformats parser in golang that I'm working on: https://github.com/andyleap/microformats
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rhiaro
Yay, thanks for adding stuff to the wiki tantek!
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rhiaro
tantek++
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tantek
rhiaro: np - it's just a start - so much to capture! but I left links in place for others to help expand :)
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tantek
I'm also afraid I may get details wrong - since I'm interpreting logs/minutes
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tantek
whereas people who actually saw the demos may be able to add more detailed information
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rhiaro
I think I need to figure out what's up with my micropub endpoint then crash for a bit
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GWG
I'm trying to redesign my display code for various kinds of posts. I fear I'm ending up down a rabbit hole again
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Vendan
tantek, question for you, e-* properties get 2 values rather then the single value the others get. When a p-* is also a h-*, that property is nested with the p-* value in the nested microformat
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Vendan
is the e-* html stuff put in beside the value: in the nested microformat?
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Vendan
+
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Vendan
oops
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tantek
Vendan - could you provide a brief markup example of what you mean?
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Vendan
not sure if it's valid, but something like <div class="h-entry"><div class="h-card e-content"></div></div>
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Vendan
I'm guessing the content property for the h-entry should be a microformat entry with a value: {value: "", html: ""}
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tantek
hmm - may help to add some content/markup to that in the middle
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tantek
e.g. <div class="h-entry"><div class="h-card e-content"><p>Hello</p></div></div>
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tantek
let's try one of the existing parsers and see if it does something expected
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tantek
hmm - looks like an untested edge case
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tantek
both phpmf2 and mf2py fail to produce the html in the parsed output!
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Vendan
lol
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tantek
this works in both: <div class="h-entry"><div class="e-content"><p>Hello</p></div></div>
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ttepasse
The MF2-Algorithm doesn't use or care for the HTML lang attribute, do I see that correct?
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tantek
ttepasse: with the exception of the extra bit of rel parsing at the end which just collects the lang attribute, yes
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tantek
goes to file a couple of issues
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Vendan
so, what is the expected result?
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ttepasse
Hm. Even DOM doesn't seem to have a method for querying Nodes oder Elements for the inherited language. Strange.
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ttepasse
Ah. HTML has HTMLElement::lang, but crippled.
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tantek
Vendan: did you see how they parse <div class="h-entry"><div class="e-content"><p>Hello</p></div></div> ? more like that
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tantek
e.g. right next to the "value": "Hello", you should see "html": "<p>Hello<\/p>",
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Vendan
ok, not nested in a dictionary under the value:
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Vendan
that makes it easier for me :)
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tantek
filing github issues on them now
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tantek
issues filed: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/64 https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/issues/35
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tantek
good job Vendan, already finding bugs in existing parsers :P
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tantek
;)
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Vendan
lol, just mentally brute-forcing all the code paths in my parser :D
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tantek
good to have you here Vendan :D
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tantek
got an email from Google about "Important notice for Master/Slave Datastore app owners on Google App Engine" that I really don't understand.
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tantek
anyone else get that email? snarfed? KevinMarks? kylewm?
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kylewm
weird, no
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tantek
it was sent 2015-04-20 - just found it
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tantek
I don't think I have any App Engine apps, and it was far too long to bother trying to understand, so I tl;dr'd it.
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tantek
the kind of email that should have been a blog post
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snarfed
tantek: agreed, if you don't run anything on app engine, you can ignore it
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snarfed
(there have been a number of blog posts too :P)
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tantek
email should have been brief and linked to the blog post for details / follow-up :P
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kirilind.me
edited /Jekmentions (+99) "add implementation example" (view diff)
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Vendan
there, my library handles e-* on h-*
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tantek
Vendan - do you have a simple textarea based web UI for folks to try your library?
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tantek
e.g. like that for phpmf2: https://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2/
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Vendan
not yet
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Vendan
just started work on it this morning :P
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Vendan
I'll see about throwing something together this afternoon
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tantek
lol
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Vendan
be back in a little
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tantek
me too
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kylewm
it'd be interesting to benchmark the performance of the mf2 parsers
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kylewm
i mean, i'm sure the mf2 bits are dominated by parsing html bits
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KevinMarks__
The difference between using html5lib and not?
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KevinMarks__
Tantek, should I add a textarea to unmung.com too
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tantek
helps with testing snippets of markup
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tantek
bboab
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GWG
!tell acegiak Insert request for brain picking here.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm
KevinMarks__: ya exactly, i'm curious how mf2py+lxml compares to mf2py+html5lib, php-mf2, node-mf2, golang
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LukasRos
I might do a bit of transfering IRC demo notes to the wiki.
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@jkphl
What a nice #btconf kick-off — the best so far. @indiewebcamp was a blast! We miss you, @webrocker — good luck! :) https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/597485145025839106/photo/1 (twtr.io/zHGLE4aArm)
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@killerog
Thoughts on the IndieWeb: So, I guess this #indiewebcamp was quite a success for me as I have a site now... http://killerog.com/2015/05/10/thoughts-on-the-indieweb/ (twtr.io/zHH4jy3Nx4)
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LukasRos
Loqi: can you hear me?
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LukasRos
I’m on a moving train.
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kylewm
loud and clear, LukasRos
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lukasrosenstock.net
edited /2015/Germany/Demos (+2098) "/* Hack Day Demos */" (view diff)
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lukasrosenstock.net
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LukasRos
I made a summary of rhiaros notes for all hack day demos on the wiki. I hope nothing got „lost in translation“ over those two hops.
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LukasRos
If any of you feels themselves misrepresented feel free to edit, it’s a wiki after all.
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lukasrosenstock.net
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rhiaro
nice, thanks LukasRos
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LukasRos
No problem :) Nothing else to do on this train anyway.
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Vendan
heh, my microformats library just extracted http://pastebin.com/cjK39tgB from http://aaronparecki.com/
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Vendan
still needs work, but neat :D
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kylewm
Vendan: looking really good!
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kylewm
Vendan++
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Loqi
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Vendan++ impressive progress!
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ben.thatmustbe.me
edited /indieweb-messaging (+2) "/* Option 1 */ use class not rel for mf2 properties" (view diff)
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ben.thatmustbe.me
edited /indieweb-messaging (+2) "/* Option 1 */ use class not rel for mf2 properties" (view diff)
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: where did that rel misconception come from?!?
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ben.thatmustbe.me
edited /indieweb-messaging (+4) "/* Threaded Conversations */ again use class not rel for mf2 properties" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme
tantek, i saw this edit earlier https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?diff=19159&oldid=19158&rcid=19163
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KartikPrabhu
aaronpk: where do I find this new article posting UI on Quill?
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tantek
ah, from michiel - ok will have to ping him next time he comes back here to ask if / why he deliberately chose 'rel' and if so from what
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ben_thatmustbeme
just leave a message with loqi i guess
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tantek
I don't remember which alias
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kylewm
KartikPrabhu: it's not up yet
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KartikPrabhu
kylewm: ah ok
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KevinMarks
added a textarea to unmung now: http://www.unmung.com/?html=%3Cdiv+class%3D%22h-entry%22%3E%3Cdiv+class%3D%22h-card+e-content%22%3E%3Cp%3EHello%3C%2Fp%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E%3C%2Fdiv%3E&pretty=on
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@jansauer
RT @skddc: Hacking at #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/skddc/status/597388890631053312/photo/1 (twtr.io/zH_WZx3JkL)
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tantek
KevinMarks, nice! somehow you have a different deployment of mf2py than KartikPrabhu
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tantek
the value: { value: } looks kinda dumb too - glad we're fixing that
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: KevinMarks made some new contribution to mf2py that mine is lagging behind
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tantek
but that was rel related
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KartikPrabhu
oh there are other diffs?
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tantek
not sure how his has the e-* h-* parsing and yours does not
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tantek
yeah
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tantek
I filed a bug
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KartikPrabhu
interesting
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tantek
https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/issues/35
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: my mf2py might also be behind tommorris' repo :P
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: yours was the only live textarea I could use - so deployed implementation > github trunk :P
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KevinMarks
well, you can try mine now
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KevinMarks
we should add a test for that though
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Loqi
agreed.
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: so KevinMarks version is doing the right thing?
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KevinMarks
or is the value:value: stuff wrong?
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Vendan
lol, thanks guys
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Vendan
and that's only 3~4 hours of coding :D
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Vendan
also, my opinion, it needs to get standardized somehow. A strict reading of the spec suggests that value:value: is correct
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Vendan
but it doesn't look good, imo
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Vendan
also, my opinion, it needs to get standardized somehow. A strict reading of the spec suggests that value:value: is correct
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Vendan
argh, freaking wifi
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmm, would this be a discussion for #microformats?
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Vendan
maybe change it so its value:{text: html:} ?
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Vendan
that's a breaking change though
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Vendan
probably
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ben_thatmustbeme
not trying to stop you talking
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ben_thatmustbeme
might get some more opinions there too
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KartikPrabhu
aaaa this git thing is so confusing
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Vendan
lol, yeah, I understand
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tantek
Vendan: I agree that value:value does not look good - and that was unintended, so I fixed the spec accordingly
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Vendan
cool, that makes my parser compliant with that
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tantek
http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-parsing&diff=64955&oldid=64926
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tantek
the intent of "value:" was that it was always a string - no more dereferencing needed
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tantek
hence "value", literally
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Vendan
I do prefer it that way
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tantek
thanks for that find
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Vendan
also, there's now at least a cli tool for testing my library, need to add some flags for specifying source, right now it's just taking 1 argument that's a url
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Vendan
going to see about grabbing that test suite and integrating it into testing for my lib, then get it on travis or something for continuous testing
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ben_thatmustbeme
KartikPrabhu: what's going on?
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Vendan
argh, I always forget to do dns changes *first*
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Vendan
tantek, http://vendaria.net:4001/ It'll be mf2.vendaria.net as soon as dns propagates
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tantek
nice! first two examples on the microformats2 page worked great
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tantek
this one tests implied photo from img[src] and name from img[alt] : http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#hyperlinked_person_image - take a look!
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Vendan
oh, yeah, there's still massive chunks of the spec that aren't implemented yet
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KartikPrabhu
figured out this conflit stuff and updated my mf2py. tantek now my site will also give the value:value type properties
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Vendan
lol, it's not supposed to be value:value:
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@oSoftDev
The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597562569025572864/photo/1 (twtr.io/zHizgydP_Q)
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@TheIndieSloth
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj0em3_tt)
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KartikPrabhu
Vendan: yes. I know
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: yeah that's a bug in mf2py fron unintended spec interpretation :/
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Vendan
ahh, ok
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KartikPrabhu
Vendan: my mf2py was laggin behind and gave some other bug :P so now it has the correct bug in it :)
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@mob_app_wrd
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj4iwenLY)
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@mob_super11
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj4pWyVL0)
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KartikPrabhu
aaaah not indieweb^
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@TooStrong_Gamer
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj5j1xEso)
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@IndieGameDevBot
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj61JECLG)
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tantek
!block IndieGameDevBot
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 23 spammers blacklisted
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tantek
!block TooStrong_Gamer
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 24 spammers blacklisted
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@GameDevRobot
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHj9bU1EEQ)
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tantek
just to avoid the inadvertent indiegame overlaps
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Vendan
note, tantek, my site will take a get parameter like ?MF=htmlhere, though have fun urlencoding chunks of html
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tantek
!block GameDevRobot
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 25 spammers blacklisted
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tantek
Vendan, yeah seriously - see what KevinMarks was quoting above!
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@MobileDifferent
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjEcK3Naj)
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@mob_design
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjFRq8rV5)
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@S78Mobile
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjFnU_H68)
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Vendan
I may integrate a little bit of url shortner, just for the fun of it :)
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@8bit8bitgirl
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjUKnpuR4)
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@JeanFrenchh
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjaHiMp54)
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tantek
wonders if Loqi could add a "-indiegame" to the mentions of indieweb search thing.
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Loqi
yeah!
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tantek
Glad you approve Loqi.
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@mob_gallery
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHjdY2btyQ)
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@IndieGameAddict
RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ %E2%80%A6 #indieweb #indiedev #… https://twitter.com/oSoftDev/status/597562569025572864/photo/1 (twtr.io/zHjwCiR155)
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@FlappyTeam
RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev … (twtr.io/zHjwuTh4Ww)
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KartikPrabhu
aaaah so much spam
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@mob_hold
RT @IndieGameAddict: RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ %E2%80%A6 #indieweb #indiedev #… http… (twtr.io/zHjyVRvkqw)
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tantek
!block IndieGameAddict
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 26 spammers blacklisted
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: if you have a moment and can check to see if any of those accounts look "human" or are just RTs of lots of stuff, let me know and I'll block accordingly.
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tantek
I'm only blocking the ones that are obvious aggregators or offtopic from their names.
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Vendan
how much of it is that #indieweb seems like a poorly chosen hashtag?
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tantek
Vendan - unclear - most references are actual indieweb (if you go by search engine results being an arbiter of sorts)
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@CelticFrost7
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHknQ3r8NQ)
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@mob_maps
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zHksLKUX0G)
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@prgmbot
RT @FlappyTeam: RT oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamede… (twtr.io/zHkxpPTFuf)
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Vendan
ugh, they are retweating eachother
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kylewm
you can always /ignore Loqi
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kylewm
if the fix I just pushed to bridgy works, there's about to be a flood of invitations
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10104508630096080 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10204086554986691 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] PJ Khalil RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152384475429314)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155124201665055 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10102916401005834 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100709602163883 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100706053205521 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153214479714341 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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GWG
The flood is coming
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153069817289711 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Kevin Marks RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10154060766865425)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10105661023300860 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10202773673198905 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153093414308573 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155171288215311 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152685898343403 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153030272898698 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Vendan
fun
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#2953776562154 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153071631514868 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#976754404223 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100455192207968 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10202896394024790 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#1076609762364753 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Dan Gailey RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101712843000756)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10205396431407514 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155139628430249 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152937939711815 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153539884612729 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152471100992434 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100517927785390 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10151962278956927 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152530614337121 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152460548411841 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153070857066528 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#585999620704 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153992960345713 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10154011264405352 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10154081464200157 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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GWG
drowns under the bridgy flood
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100195542842651 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100274765903819 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Kyle Huey RSVPed no to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10204181889683168)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101329190433628 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153708389652785 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152766488263611 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10103123970894141 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155244039325019 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155012202475408 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152710147970415 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152942261336355 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153975373285082 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153572000858079 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Jina RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#523759551124)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153176130486869 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155125999765501 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Eddie Codel RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152952806940901)
# nloadholtes joined the channel
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152357165701271 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152519399960825 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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kylewm
I've never been so happy to see a invittions flood!!
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10204959083229530 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155145068360183 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152361936179540 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152782993417600 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10104101827895836 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152555942501573 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Vendan
is it like catching up history?
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153322062260166 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Kyle Mahan RSVPed yes to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#12802152)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152581034711581 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152759380008640 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153065553565844 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#752883204006 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10103840847068493 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152930195941166 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10203576731879737 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153621239451029 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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GWG
kylewm: Hope some of them are for NYC
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101464248810443 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#837798162932873 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10103840812877013 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101508925747503 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#650861002206 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Eva Lee RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153182430412603)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155425285500637 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Tantek Çelik RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101508925782433)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152952206735090 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155081091385570 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152697634127897 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152994481962071 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#993746631725 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Rocky Yu RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153172898696236)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10100412713595446 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101051235173449 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153233851743119 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Justin Ormont RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10104096231146827)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10101464248815433 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152544753072027 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#765543456858365 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152817341948001 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Andi Galpern RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#499657186827699)
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10153013912719486 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10155060754035394 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10203643450182791 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10204380195759358 was invited to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi
[bridgy] Kara Murphy RSVPed maybe to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-05-20-homebrew-website-club (https://www.facebook.com/806566912768127#10152691890307875)
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kylewm
Vendan: just catching up with invitations from yesterday
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Vendan
is that the end?
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kylewm
GWG: they probably won't be for NYC until it polls you
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GWG
kylewm: I still need to get zachdonovan and confirm a venue.
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kylewm
GWG: didn't you reauthorize bridgy like yesterday?
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Vendan
is there any kind of listing of what area indiewebers are from?
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tantek
!block prgmbot
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 27 spammers blacklisted
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tantek
Vendan - roughly by timezone on /irc-people
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tantek
you can also see (and add to!) organizer cities on /HWC
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kylewm
!tell snarfed bridgy needs but doesn't have user_events permissions scope :(
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
kylewm: Yes.
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kylewm
so tired of the facebook api :(
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GWG
kylewm: Ditto.
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GWG
kylewm: There is only one solution.
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GWG
I need more people on the Indieweb to interact with me so I can chuck silos.
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tantek
kylewm: it's almost as if they know that workable decentralized options are coming and are slowly tightening their grip on what they have.
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tantek
or they're just continuing with the slow frog boiling
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Vendan
I wish hosting at home was a better idea then it is
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Vendan
then you could really own your own data, just use a raspberry pi or the new CHIP thing
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GWG
I run a server on a pi out of my house
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tantek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog#As_metaphor
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Vendan
yeah, but you gotta fiddle with dynamic dns, and some ISP's block port 80 incoming
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GWG
That reminds me, I wanted to have my other server proxy it
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GWG
I use it to track airplanes
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Vendan
dang, $15 a year for a vps
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Vendan
that's freakishly cheap
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Vendan
I remember paying more then that for crappy shared hosting
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GWG
Vendan: I pay $12
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Vendan
a year?
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
Crissic Solutions
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Vendan
dang
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Vendan
I pay $20 a month, but I'm also running a minecraft server without issues on it
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GWG
They have my VPS in a federal reserve building shielded against a Category 5 hurricane and guarded by armed guards with dogs
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torrorist
ideally, i'd like to host at home, but my ISP charges $30 for a static IP, so i'm using a vps that allows me to run a tor exit relay along with my site for $10 a month
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Vendan
I've got a 2 core, 2gb ram server,
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GWG
I use mine for personal use.
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GWG
I have a $20 a month one I use for running more intensive things at Linode.
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GWG
The $12/year runs my ZNC bouncer
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Vendan
linode! woot woot!
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Loqi
yay!
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torrorist
i'm using linode as well. can't say enough good things about them!
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Vendan
oh loqi, you're a hoot!
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Vendan
really, now you're not talking to me, Loqi?
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Vendan
really not sure why I'm still running a minecraft server
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GWG
I hung out with a bunch of their people at SELF, down in your neck of the woods. They seemed pretty competent.
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GWG
Vendan: Can't tell you.
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Vendan
haven't logged into it in like a year and a half
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GWG
Cancel it, and join the low end side.
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Vendan
nah, I like having a decent vps
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GWG
Ok
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Vendan
yay, dns finally propagated :D
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Loqi
giggles
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Vendan
really Loqi? Really?
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ben_thatmustbeme
haha, Loqi can be inapropriate at times... its because you ended in :D
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ben_thatmustbeme
huh... or not
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ben_thatmustbeme
what is everyone up to tonight?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "everyone up to tonight" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=everyone+up+to+tonight&summary=prompted+by+ben_thatmustbeme+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-05-10%2Fline%2F1431309668131
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KartikPrabhu
yay, you ended in :D
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KartikPrabhu
Loqi is on a break
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Loqi
woot!
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GWG
ben_thatmustbeme: I was rewriting my Post Kinds code to be compliant with WordPress PHP coding standards, as well as giving me an excuse to improve parts of it
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ben_thatmustbeme
haha KartikPrabhu he triggered on the wrong line
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ben_thatmustbeme
KartikPrabhu: did you get your git issues worked out?
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KartikPrabhu
ben_thatmustbeme: yes I did! thanks for offering to help
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KartikPrabhu
now I know how to fix conflicts :)
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ben_thatmustbeme
GWG, cool. Did you get push from WordPress guys about it, or just doing it to be nice
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Vendan
I'm hooking the mf2 test suite data up to my parser lib
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ben_thatmustbeme
KartikPrabhu: excellent
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KartikPrabhu
is reading science papers :P
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ben_thatmustbeme
Vendan, what language is the parser in?
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Vendan
golang
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ben_thatmustbeme
cool
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ben_thatmustbeme
more parsers = more happiness
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Vendan
https://github.com/andyleap/microformats is the source, mf2.vendaria.net is an web test of it
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KartikPrabhu
Vendan: good idea to put up a public interface. easier to test parsing :)
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Vendan
heh, well, that's more for casual experiments, I'm integrating https://github.com/tobiastom/tests for a in-depth test of the parsing
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Vendan
be able to just do `go test` and it'll run the entire set of test suites
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Vendan
then I'll set up travis, and start working towards a passing build :D
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KartikPrabhu
Vendan: I meant makes it easier for others to test their markup using your parser,
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Vendan
ahh
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Vendan
still nowhere near that level, I'm missing large chunks of the spec
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KartikPrabhu
also, this way others can catch bugs too
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Vendan
interesting bit is comparing the 2 outputs. My json object output ordering is non-deterministic, so I can't just compare marshaled strings
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Vendan
woot, fixed a big issue that I didn't quite catch from the spec
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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Vendan
now I'm passing 23 of 119 tests
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Vendan
also, the full test suite takes 0.1 seconds to run, so I'm satisfied with the speed for right now :)
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Vendan
there, travis is set up to run tests for me
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Vendan
https://travis-ci.org/andyleap/microformats
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Vendan
wow, is 1024px wide just seen as "screw you" narrow now?
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Vendan
I'm looking at a blog right now where I can't scroll to the left, and there's content a good 200px of the left edge
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tantek
Vendan, not quite responsive huh? ;)
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Vendan
https://twitter.com/andy_leap/status/597602193643036672
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@andy_leap
@wercker Hey, I know my screen is tiny(1024px wide), but your blog is unusable on my screen, any chance of fixing it? https://twitter.com/andy_leap/status/597602193643036672/photo/1 (twtr.io/zHy8zZgTxs)
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Vendan
and note, that's scrolled as far left as I can go
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Vendan
I'm not sure how you can justify just ignoring 1024px wide screens. Isn't that right around iPad?
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tantek
Vendan - original iPad yeah
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Vendan
but even retina reports as 768px by 1024px
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tantek
ok so … why would you name a product or service after a trivial dyslexic misreading of "wrecker" ? re: @wercker
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tantek
huh termie isn't here
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KartikPrabhu
urgh so much fail on the wercker.com site
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tantek
but he's in #microformats - left him a message there.
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KartikPrabhu
<a>'s without a href and JS failed so don't actually work
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: I'm so not going there. ;)
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Vendan
it seemed like a neat idea, have my binary built by wercker and just deployed to my server, but for some reason, go build ./... isn't working
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@hotgamesandroid
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zJ1LaTJT7k)
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@mob_attack56
RT @oSoftDev: The map editor we use for Saga will soon be available: http://www.osoftdev.com/osd_products/SagaMapEditor/ #indieweb #indiedev #indiegamedev http://t.co/R… (twtr.io/zJ1Y7wURop)
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acegiak
I always develpo for 1024x768 as default?
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Loqi
acegiak: GWG left you a message 8 hours, 47 minutes ago: Insert request for brain picking here. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-05-10/line/1431285100917
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acegiak
GWG: you around? I can chat
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tantek
!block hotgamesandroid
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Loqi
Got it! There are now 28 spammers blacklisted
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GWG
acegiak: I am. You told me a while back you wanted something in the next revision of Post Kinds
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GWG
I can't remember what
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acegiak
GWG: dang. neither can I
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acegiak
hmmm
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acegiak
Was it an easy way to add new kinds?
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acegiak
I thinking of adding a duration meta field
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KartikPrabhu
GWG: hence it is useful to leave messages with clear context
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GWG
acegiak: There's a filter for that. But, either way, I'm redoing it according to WordPress coding standards.
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acegiak
kk
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GWG
acegiak: So, some object oriented programming.
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GWG
I got a hard time about global scope.
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acegiak
GWG: fair enough. just remember not to feel bad because there are always messier programmers out there (me)
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GWG
acegiak: I'm trying to be better. Besides, it gives me an excuse to redo a few things.
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acegiak
yeah definitely
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GWG
I keep trying to get the display code improved.
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acegiak
do we know if latest versions of sempress are post-kinds compatible?
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GWG
To make it easier to expand the kind support.
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GWG
acegiak: To the extent any theme is.
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acegiak
:/
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acegiak
so no
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GWG
Yes.
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Vendan
woot!
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Loqi
yay!
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acegiak
the main thing for me is getting the response in the right place structurally
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acegiak
but yeah I'm helping blackwoolholiday.com with her site again
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Vendan
mf2.vendaria.net is now rebuilt and autodeployed when I update my parser library
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acegiak
neat!
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GWG
acegiak: I wish I could find a way that was consistent for that. WordPress lacks an official placement for information outside of the content.
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Vendan
to celebrate, I think I'll get a few more tests passing!
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acegiak
yeah, no. your current system is good. a 1 line insert for themes to be compatible or injecting it into the content if not is really good compromise
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GWG
Wish there was something better
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acegiak
not without a full dom manipulation system which would be insane
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acegiak
or a weirdly specific core hook
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GWG
No luck there
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acegiak
now the current question is: how hard is it gonna be to add a duration field to the meta
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GWG
acegiak: Duration of video/audio content?
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acegiak
yeah. or in this case, how long I played a game
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GWG
Easy. I just worry about the growing length of fields to fill out.
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acegiak
I agree
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acegiak
that's why I think the publication/album/site field is elegant
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GWG
acegiak: That's why I wrote some custom post UI.
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GWG
acegiak: It does work for what it does so far.
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acegiak
yeah definitely
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GWG
acegiak: Either way, if you remember, send me a message
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tantek
GWG, you've been working on bookmarking UX, I wonder if you understand what this tweet is about: https://twitter.com/Ironsoup/status/591872940662099968
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@Ironsoup
@t Doesn't anyone care about <TITLE>s? Too many uninformative; obfuscated. Manually editing after +bookmark'ing sucks. #indieweb (twtr.io/yirXD4RGeU)
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tantek
I'm confused by it, so I'm wondering if it makes sense to anyone else.
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tantek
Vendan++ for http://mf2.vendaria.net - very nice!
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Loqi
Vendan has 4 karma
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Vendan
lol
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acegiak
tantek: prbably the fact that so many sites litter their <title> with all sorts of unnecessary crap?
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GWG
The traditional format is page title - site title
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tantek
acegiak: do you think it's an indirect criticism of my post's <TITLE>s? can't tell why they'd @-reply me at the front otherwise.
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GWG
tantek: What have you posted with a title lately?
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tantek
GWG - technically everything I post has a <title>
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acegiak
http://tantek.com/2015/097/t2/think-ok-at-peace-then-memory-hits ?
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GWG
Your title on that one is the entire post
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GWG
That seems to be a bit overkill.
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tantek
GWG, that's what I do for all my notes
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GWG
It is a bit long though.
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tantek
yeah, sometimes I post long notes
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acegiak
I don't think it's a direct criticism of you if they @ people they think would be interested in the conversation as I do sometimes
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tantek
Vendan is your golang parser on github?
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Vendan
yeah, https://github.com/andyleap/microformats
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Vendan
hrm, https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/blob/master/h-card/nested/output.json looks odd, I can't quite reconcile the splitting one tag into 2 separate items in the items:[] array
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tantek
(and look at that, Go sorts alphabetically before Javascript)
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Vendan
according to the spec, type: [array of microformat "h-*" type(s) on the element], and I don't see anything about splitting microformats like that
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tantek
that sounds right - yes those objects are multityped
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Vendan
so that test is wrong?
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tantek
like you can have an h-card that's also an h-x-person
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tantek
hmm - checking
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Vendan
cause if you unnest it, you get a single item in the items array that has both types
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Vendan
so there's special treatment going on for children
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tantek
indeed
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tantek
that test is very odd
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Vendan
there's several tests like that
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Vendan
heh, just implemented correct children handling for non-property h-* children
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tantek
Vendan - I'm not sure what HTML the tests are using to make that JSON
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tantek
there are some examples here: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-card_org_h-card
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Vendan
did a git push, and now(about 3 minutes later) mf2.vendaria.net is parsing them correctly
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Vendan
so wait, that adding the items to the end of the main items array is wrong?
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Vendan
cause there's only one main h-card in those test files!
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Vendan
making that change cost me another failure, down to 22 tests passing.
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Vendan
though I'm having doubts about that test suite
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Vendan
esp. as I can't find a single parser that matches it
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Vendan
Guess I need to make my own test suite
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Vendan
or at least, spend an hour or so working through the test suite and fixing these issues
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tantek
hey glennjones - we're checking out the microformats2 test suite
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tantek
we have some questions about some of the test cases
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glennjones
its a little out of date and needs some love, the frist job next week is to start updating it
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Loqi
glennjones: voxpelli left you a message 3 weeks ago: I added a wiki page about the social graph, could you check and extend? https://indiewebcamp.com/social_graph http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-04-19/line/1429475645423
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Vendan
I checked it, and those oddities are present in the original test files, i.e. https://github.com/microformats/tests/blob/master/h-card.html#L200-L236
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Vendan
also, is there any way the generated stuff, with the separate html and json files for each test, could become the main and the js version be based off of that?
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Vendan
https://github.com/tobiastom/tests is very very nice for my uses
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tantek
Vendan - yeah that testcase is wrong
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tantek
there should only be the one big h-card in the top level items collection
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tantek
as the fourth example here shows: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#h-card_org_h-card
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tantek
the one with the <a class="h-org h-card" inside
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KartikPrabhu
Vendan: mf2py uses some of its own tests here: https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/tree/master/test/examples
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KartikPrabhu
if they're useful to you
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glennjones
If you could add issue to github repo I will work my way thought them
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glennjones
I will move it to a simple set of html and json output files as this seems to be what people can mostly easliy work with
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Vendan
glennjones, I've seen them show up in a couple different tests, I'm probably gonna set aside an hour or 2 to go through the tests tomorrow
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Vendan
KartikPrabhu, looks interesting, though they seem more like examples then tests
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glennjones
Then finally cross match it to the test used by all the new parser which are not based on the orginal test suite
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Vendan
there doesn't seem to be any kind of "output must be blah", though I may be wrong
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Vendan
glennjones, I plan on passing most of them through the list of validators up on the wiki
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tantek
Vendan: https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/pull/1
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tantek
glennjones: ^^^
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tantek
glennjones: are you maintaining that github repo? or which repo did you mean for "If you could add issue to github repo"
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tantek
?
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@_Michael_Becker
Why We Need the Indieweb https://vimeo.com/125167234 (twtr.io/zJ8hhw1tmf)
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Vendan
tantek, note: https://github.com/tobiastom/tests/blob/master/h-card/horghcard/output.json is the same kind of thing
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Vendan
that's why I think I need to walk all the tests and doublecheck them
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tantek
very odd. yes.
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glennjones
The https://github.com/microformats/tests repo - i still test my parser against it
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tantek
oh oops ok
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tantek
Vendan - let's focus on that repo then ^^^
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acegiak
GWG: finally got around to updating my last.fm scraper to populate the meta fields properly with albume and card-name
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GWG
acegiak: I hope nothing I do messes anything up. It shouldn't.
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acegiak
should be fine
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Vendan
k
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Vendan
I'll probably break them out into separate files ala tobiastom's repo while I'm at it
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Vendan
man, I can not get over how epic that is
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Vendan
`git push` and 5 minutes later, my parser site is running the new version
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Vendan
well, it's roughly 1:30am here, and I gotta go to work in the morning, so time to hit the sack
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tantek
Vendan - again, nice work. Sleep well.
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kylewm
!tell snarfed well I submitted user_events and user_photos ... fingers crossed
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[mention] http://www.onli-blogging.de/1472/Webmentions-sind-nur-Trackbacks.html linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/ (pingback)
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Loqi
[mention] http://www.onli-blogging.de/1472/Webmentions-sind-nur-Trackbacks.html linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Trackback (pingback)
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tantek
Yayy! http://www.yesandyesyes.com/code-of-conduct ( sound familiar ;) )
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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tantek.com
edited /code-of-conduct (+262) "Similar Codes of Conduct, Yes and Yes Yes" (view diff)
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