#indiewebcamp 2015-06-07

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KartikPrabhu according to http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth it does support GPG
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KartikPrabhu dym_cx: see http://indiewebcamp.com/GPG#How_to_use_PGP_with_IndieAuth
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KartikPrabhu dym_cx: there is also SMS auth so you don't have to tied to silo log ins
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@NoizIvy RT @kid_OYO: starting students 8+ on #webliteracy path by teaching #indieweb methods + stacking personal data literacy/leverage on top of c… (twitter.com/_/status/607339758017060864)
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KevinMarks !tell dym_ck, KartikPrabhu indieauth also supports email auth, so it's backwards compatible with password resets, without a password
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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indie-visitor Hey, is the portland meetup happening at Beulahland tonight?
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KevinMarks I think that was last Wednesday http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-06-03-homebrew-website-club
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indie-visitor well nertz. my cal is foobared. oh well, next time
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@kevinmarks The advantage of quoting a tweet on your own site is that it doesn't vanish out from under you. #indieweb https://twitter.com/rstephens/status/607442861278109696 (twitter.com/_/status/607446061414629376)
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KartikPrabhu really need to figure out a mf2 way of marking up multiple instances of the same presentation
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: KevinMarks left you a message 5 hours, 41 minutes ago: indieauth also supports email auth, so it's backwards compatible with password resets, without a password http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-06/line/1433641338934
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KartikPrabhu tantek: what do you reckon of marking up multiple instances of a presentation as one h-entry with multiple embedded h-events?
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KartikPrabhu e.g: https://kartikprabhu.com/talks
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tantek exact same presentation?
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Loqi tantek: dym_cx left you a message 12 hours, 41 minutes ago: ind.ie/indieWeb -- no confusion on my part. inspiration !== implementation http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Dym.cx#to%20clarify http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-06/line/1433616406371
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tantek !tell dym_cx thanks for the clarification, good to know another data point! And welcome to #indiewebcamp!
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KartikPrabhu tantek: no the muptiple instances will be collapsed into one h-entry with common title. The time and location will be listed under the title?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek KartikPrabhu: do you not change your slide deck even slightly (e.g. to update the date of the slides) when you do different presentations?
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KartikPrabhu yes i do. the title slide is changed to reflect the place and event
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KartikPrabhu oh I was also thinking that the location/time will hyperlink to the actual slides
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tantek then you have different presentation files/slides for each one already right with different title slides at least?
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KartikPrabhu yup! each presentation there is a different set of slides but they are mostly the same message and hence title. which is why from a UX perspective I don't like listing them separately
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I like how Lanyrd structures these things - lots to learn from them there
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tantek what is Lanyrd?
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Loqi Lanyrd is an event silo focused on conferences https://indiewebcamp.com/Lanyrd
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KartikPrabhu will take a peek. I am giving another instance of the first presentation next week, and already haven't uploaded a former instance. So it is a nagging problem for me
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KartikPrabhu tantek: btw you might be amused at the amount of manual reply POSSEing and manual reply-to-reply backfeeding I did today https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/month=2015-06 :)
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tantek oh dear month=2015-06 ?!?
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KartikPrabhu errr yeah my bad URL design. should find a better way :P
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tantek in terms of manual reply POSSEing - what software are the originals running that required you to do a manual copy/paste of your comment, rather than something automatable
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KartikPrabhu self-hosted vanilla wordpress
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KartikPrabhu the posts on the blog are very strictly moderated for "off-topic"-ness so I never find a way to bring up indieweb on there
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KartikPrabhu I keep posting with an "original post" link in the hopes that Peter Woit notices :P
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tantek no need to bring it up as a blog discussion / comment - but rather, try pinging the admin privately and seeing it they're interested in the IndieWeb related plugins
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tantek you can tell them it's the latest in working simple annotation technology
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tantek (which webmentions + h-entry + in-reply-to really are)
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KartikPrabhu might attempt once I get some traction, scientists are notoriously hard to convert to new technology
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tantek and you'd like them to install those plugins because then you could comment/annotate from your personal site ;)
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tantek it's not "new", it's just a plugin or two for wordpress ;)
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KartikPrabhu well I know that, but to them it does seem like new stuff. particulary Peter Woit has no presence on any other "social media" silo
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KartikPrabhu also I don't think Wordpress has solved the problem of reply-to-reply-to-replies yet which some of those posts are
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KartikPrabhu ona UI level
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KartikPrabhu https://twitter.com/lukew/status/607416296351756289
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@lukew Syncing all my mountain biking data from the past 8 years required: 3 computers, 5 apps, 4 formats, and too many hours. (twitter.com/_/status/607416296351756289)
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Zegnat Good morning
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@pierreozoux require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! @require-lx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-require-lx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607502297623633920)
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@pierreozoux require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! @requirelx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-requirelx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607502679020044288)
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@jonDevBot RT @pierreozoux: require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! @requirelx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-requirelx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607502782908788736)
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@nodenow require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! requirelx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-requirelx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607502932834177024)
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@BillSeitz RT @kevinmarks: The advantage of quoting a tweet on your own site is that it doesn't vanish out from under you. #indieweb https://t.co/HtT… (twitter.com/_/status/607507265118044160)
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@javascriptd RT @nodenow: require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! requirelx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-requirelx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607509473536536576)
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@NZN Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @kid_OYO #vrm (twitter.com/_/status/607516970263715840)
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@kid_OYO RT @NZN: Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @ki… (twitter.com/_/status/607517388087672832)
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@FromTheWastes Bioflash Short Stories by @nrburnette – What are they?... https://fromthewastes11811.wordpress.com/2014/11/01/bioflash-short-stories-by-n-r-burnette-what-are-they/ #amreading #amwriting #indieauth # https://twitter.com/FromTheWastes/status/607517509651005441/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/607517509651005441)
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@CoderDojoVA RT @NZN: Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @ki… (twitter.com/_/status/607520822379438081)
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@coderdojoli RT @NZN: Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @ki… (twitter.com/_/status/607520961336737795)
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@MakerFarm RT @NZN: Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @ki… (twitter.com/_/status/607521142732001281)
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@marionzualo RT @pierreozoux: require-lx/community https://github.com/require-lx/community #IndieWeb FTW! @requirelx #javascript #lisbon https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/require-lxcommunity-require-lxcommunity-indieweb-ftw-requirelx-javascript-lisbon (twitter.com/_/status/607521318662217729)
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@LIMakerFest RT @NZN: Teaching kids 8-18 about #indieweb methods & philosophy b/c #STEM education is not owned by corporate/foundation grant budgets @ki… (twitter.com/_/status/607521564737667072)
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dym_cx !inbox
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Loqi dym_cx: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 59 minutes ago: thanks for the clarification, good to know another data point! And welcome to #indiewebcamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-07/line/1433662140108
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@kevinmarks @tomstandage @benthompson the point is not to put them in a silo but in a place you control #indieweb - Apple has a bad track record here (twitter.com/_/status/607583356742541312)
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@kevinmarks @tomstandage @benthompson there is a pattern here: http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/607585376987774976)
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snarfed tom standage? of the economist?!
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snarfed …wow, yeah
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KevinMarks Tom is a very smart chap - his Writing On The Wall book is good
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@ubax The Power Of An Informed Public https://ind.ie/blog/the-power-of-an-informed-public/ #GoodRead #Privacy #Freedom #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/607609519821225984)
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@ubax What we've lost by trading open standards for corporate ones. http://calacanis.com/2015/05/29/trading-open-standards-for-corporate-ones/ by @jason #IndieWeb #FreeSpeech (twitter.com/_/status/607614179000918016)
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aaronpk "We traded the open technology of RSS for Twitter and now we will pay the price of the anonymous corporate agents telling us what words we can read."
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aaronpk ironically that sentence is too long to tweet
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@aaronpk I wanted to quote this article, but it didn't fit in 140 characters. #indieweb #irony http://calacanis.com/2015/05/29/trading-open-standards-for-corporate-ones/ (http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/06/07/1/indieweb-irony) (twitter.com/_/status/607616983463563264)
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@dkreuz RT @ubax: What we've lost by trading open standards for corporate ones. http://calacanis.com/2015/05/29/trading-open-standards-for-corporate-ones/ by @jason #IndieWeb #FreeSpeech (twitter.com/_/status/607632584357593088)
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kylewm I don't find that article very persuasive. the corporate internet takes away a platform from voices like Chuck Johnson... not seeing a downside
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aaronpk lol
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@joshmarinacci RT @aaronpk: I wanted to quote this article, but it didn't fit in 140 characters. #indieweb #irony http://calacanis.com/2015/05/29/trading-open-standards-for-corporate-ones/ (http://t.co/pMzB… (twitter.com/_/status/607646404442349568)
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@TrentonL RT @aaronpk: I wanted to quote this article, but it didn't fit in 140 characters. #indieweb #irony http://calacanis.com/2015/05/29/trading-open-standards-for-corporate-ones/ (http://t.co/pMzB… (twitter.com/_/status/607656305952620544)
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@diplix mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607664557369225217)
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@mspro RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607664823632019458)
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@ChristianeAhoi RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607664948953673728)
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@N_Wessinghage RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607667075276873728)
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@TZPazifist RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607667178918309888)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/pesos (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/posse (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/h-card (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/h-entry (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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Loqi [mention] Hendrik Mans reshared a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/bridgy (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/7785/1/6/)
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@reik_kaps RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607667939844755457)
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@hagengraf RT @diplix: mein vortrag auf der #nebenan-konferenz am 6. juni zum thema #indieweb und blogdings in schriftform: http://wirres.net/7785 (twitter.com/_/status/607668992027856896)
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