#indiewebcamp 2015-06-14

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@frabcus @Wilmer @HerraBRE @shevski @MailpileTeam you going to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/609876998668816384)
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kylewm aaronpk: flask-themes2 has an extremely intermittent bug that errors out on rendering like once a day, haven't tracked it down yet
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aaronpk haha weird
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aaronpk how about the general use of it? I'm considering using something similar in PHP
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gRegorLove I'm getting ready to release (beta) my ProcessWire plugin. Thoughts/recommendations on which license to use?
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Loqi slack/snarfed: i like public domain
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Loqi slack/snarfed: or cc0/unlicense to be international friendly
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gRegorLove reading up on ProcessWire GPL2 and whether it applies to the modules
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gRegorLove The ProcessWire author apparently doesn't consider modules to extend ProcessWire, but talk to it via the API, so I think I can use any license
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gRegorLove Lulz http://www.wtfpl.net/about/
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gRegorLove cc0/unlicense apparently illegal in Germany? Hm. http://programmers.stackexchange.com/a/147120
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Loqi slack/tantek: Agreed with snarled. CC0.
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Loqi slack/tantek: Somehow I wouldn't take legal advice from stackexchange. Just saying.
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Loqi slack/tantek: Besides, if there's a real problem then Creative Commons's lawyers should fix or respond to it.
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Loqi slack/tantek: <@U03QUGLJS> not snarled lol
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: You can always dual license it
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: My recommendation would be CC0 as well as Apache
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: Definitely do not only release it under the wtfpl... Trust me
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gRegorLove What are the advantages of dual licensing CC0 and Apache?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "advantages of dual licensing CC0 and Apache" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=advantages+of+dual+licensing+CC0+and+Apache&summary=prompted+by+gRegorLove+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-06-13%2Fline%2F1434250514671
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gRegorLove What is CC0?
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Loqi CC0 is an abbreviation for Creative Commons Zero and an internationally-aware form of a public domain declaration https://indiewebcamp.com/CC0
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: gRegorLove: as the author of code, by default you own the copyright and nobody else can use it even if they have it. By choosing an "open source" license you are explicitly saying *how* people are allowed to use your code.
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: If you choose one license you are saying "this is the only way you are allowed to use this"
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: Since not all countries actually agree on copyright law, (as illustrated by that stackoverflow link about Germany and CC0), it can be useful to allow people to use your code under more than one license
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: If someone looks at a project and it's only available under CC0, but that country/company/whatever doesn't recognize it, then they won't be able to use the code
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: because if they used it they'd be violating the copyright since unless otherwise specified the code is copyright by you and nobody else can use it
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: So, dual licensing (or more than 2) is saying "you can use this code this way or this way or this way" and people will take their pick based on their own constraints
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Loqi slack/aaronpk: Of course IANAL so whatever
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acegiak morning, all
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Loqi acegiak: GWG left you a message 11 hours, 56 minutes ago: I'm having trouble figuring out where a <p> is coming from when I output comment_text. Any ideas? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434212144757
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acegiak !tell GWG: wordpress adds <p>s to things all the time. Found a fix here: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-comment_text-add-a-set-of-ltpgtltpgt-tags-around-comments
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Zegnat Good morning all
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tommorris.org edited /2015/Brighton (+194) "/* Participating */ +me" (view diff)
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GWG !tell acegiak I figured I'd have to do some custom calls
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Loqi GWG: acegiak left you a message 8 hours, 2 minutes ago: wordpress adds <p>s to things all the time. Found a fix here: https://wordpress.org/support/topic/does-comment_text-add-a-set-of-ltpgtltpgt-tags-around-comments http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434255289637
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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acegiak GWG: morning, lol
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Loqi acegiak: GWG left you a message 33 seconds ago: I figured I'd have to do some custom calls http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-14/line/1434284260282
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GWG acegiak: I just arrived home after a 11 hour flight. I'm going to take a nap.
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acegiak good plan!
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acegiak I'm just doing a test run of some amygdala changes before bed myself
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GWG acegiak: Either way, I looked at the comment code and the Semantic Linkbacks code. I need to stare at it a bit more.
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GWG I also am curious what snarfed did. I think he did a custom comment template
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acegiak kk
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GWG Simple is hard, by the way.
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acegiak as far as the semantic linkbacks code it's super barebones and doesn't handle things like updating the salmention comments or avatars or anything
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acegiak GWG: simple UX is hard code, simple code is hard UX
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GWG acegiak: I'm talking about the section that generates the improved comment text.
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acegiak code exists to do the hard work for UX. We could all tap out ones and zeros into an ethernet cable but people have done the hard work on code that means we don't have to
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GWG Example: "Bob favorited this Article on twitter.com"
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acegiak oh yeah
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acegiak tricky
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GWG The code doesn't rewrite the comment. It is generated dynamically on the fly. So, if you turn off the plugin, it reverts
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acegiak oh wow
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acegiak right yeah
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acegiak neat
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jonnybarnes My short domain is a .so domain
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jonnybarnes received an email recently from iwantmyname that .so domains are increasing in price from $14.99 to $99!
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jonnybarnes That’s a lot
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Zegnat jonnybarnes, sounds correct: http://indiewebcamp.com/short-domains#so
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jonnybarnes Zegnat: :(
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vanderven.se martijn edited /short-domains (+322) "/* so */ Price increase from $14.99 to $99!" (view diff)
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Zegnat Added to the wiki, thanks jonnybarnes!
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Breadbasket Greetings. I am trying out fedwiki
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@sikkdays @jeena Do you know anyone using Known, the indieweb-like service? https://withknown.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/610115350126956545)
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dym_cx !tell benwerd [suggestion] compile a list of some sites using withknown
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi slack/snarfed: GWG did you see my link to <https://snarfed.org/functions.php.txt> ?
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Zegnat what is known?
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Loqi Known is an open publishing / community platform project https://indiewebcamp.com/Known
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Zegnat dym_cx: https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#IndieWeb_Examples
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GWG snarfed: Now I have.
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Breadbasket I installed fedwiki on heroku, and am trying to repeat the process while writing a guide (http://young-wave-8167.herokuapp.com/view/welcome-visitors/view/heroku) to verify the process. Turns out, I got something wrong the second time (http://secure-chamber-2706.herokuapp.com/) missing CSS and JS
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Breadbasket if anyone wants to run a wiki with no JS and CSS... and no editing... they can follow those instructions
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@sikkdays @jeena No worries. It seems to be using the principles of indieweb, so I wondered if you bumped into any users that way. (twitter.com/_/status/610138363589296129)
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@hagengraf Ich frickel schon den ganzen Nachmittag in Sachen blog & indieweb aber es haut mit den Webmentions in WordPress nicht richtig hin #ibrn :( (twitter.com/_/status/610143764259147777)
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@aaronpk Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton! (twitter.com/_/status/610144430209654784)
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Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki posted 'Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton!' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/06/14/1/indiewebcamp)
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@indiewebcamp RT @aaronpk: Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton! (twitter.com/_/status/610144679703613440)
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@adactio RT @aaronpk: Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton! (twitter.com/_/status/610146210138202113)
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Loqi [bridgy] Cody Peterson favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/610144430209654784)
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Loqi [bridgy] IndieWebCamp retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/610144679703613440)
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Loqi [bridgy] Jeremy Keith retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/adactio/status/610146210138202113)
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@skry RT @aaronpk: Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton! (twitter.com/_/status/610148891997016064)
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Loqi [bridgy] skry retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/skry/status/610148891997016064)
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Loqi [bridgy] Séamus Smyth favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/610144430209654784)
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@withknown @Dropt3x We'd love that. It should be relatively simple, too, using Micropub: https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub (twitter.com/_/status/610156801095368704)
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Loqi [mention] Ben Werdmuller commented '@Dropt3x We'd love that. It should be relatively simple, too, using Micropub: https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub (http://stream.withknown.com/2015/dropt3x-wed-love-that-it-should-be-relatively-simple-too)
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@schnarfed RT @aaronpk: Only 26 days until IndieWebCamp! http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 This year in Portland and Brighton! (twitter.com/_/status/610157137457582080)
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Loqi [bridgy] Ryan Barrett retweeted a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/schnarfed/status/610157137457582080)
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Loqi [bridgy] Thomas Dunlap favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/610144430209654784)
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Loqi [bridgy] Joschi Kuphal 吉 favorited a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/610144430209654784)
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@ChrisAldrich One of my tweets (and posts) was used to illustrate some functionality in @withknown http://petersell.com/2015/retweeten-mit-known-withknowncom #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/610175075921170433)
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aaronpk I am attempting to re-implement my micropub endpoint to be completely unaware of post types and vocabulary
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: so it will go by just the property values it recieves?
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KartikPrabhu urgh i-before-e-except-after-c
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aaronpk yeah, just creates and manages post files, but doesn't care what's in them
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KartikPrabhu so you have switched to /file-storage ?
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aaronpk i've always had file storage
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KartikPrabhu oh cool. I didn't know that.
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/p3k#Storage
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aaronpk but i'm switching to a slightly different storage scheme that doesn't segment by post type
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KartikPrabhu i see
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KartikPrabhu a question since you do file-per-post, how do you generate feed pages? Dynamically everytime?
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aaronpk all my posts are indexed in a database, so i can query the DB by various aspects to generate feed pages
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/p3k#Database describes it
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KartikPrabhu aah cool so primary storage in files but DB for indexing
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aaronpk yeah, no content is in the database at all, just things like date, tags, etc
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KartikPrabhu neat!
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KartikPrabhu I might adopt that hybrid approach specially since my URLs don't have dates in them :P
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aaronpk i like that pattern a lot
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KartikPrabhu so if I understand this correctly, when I see your homepage, it is querying the DB for the relevant posts and then querying all the post files for the content?
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aaronpk yeah
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KartikPrabhu i would have expected i/o queries for so many separate files to slow it down but your homepage is pretty fast
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aaronpk yeah, the OS can cache disk reads so it's not really a big deal
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aaronpk none of the files are particularly big either
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KartikPrabhu i see good to know.
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aaronpk the thing that was killing me before I had the database was doing directory scans to build the feed lists
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KartikPrabhu yes. that is what I was afraid of too
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KartikPrabhu but I like the hybrid approach
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KartikPrabhu i some sense my artlces work like that at the moment. summary is stored in DB but the actual article content is a file
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aaronpk yeah I was debating doing some of that as well, like post name and summary in the DB, but in the end the disk access is fast enough it would just make it more complicated
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KartikPrabhu possibly. i might experiment with notes first since they are easier and then change the article stuff. or like you get rid of such distinctions in storage
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KartikPrabhu but must think of a cool thing to show off for IWC :P
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KartikPrabhu was contemplating inline notes writing interface, but that needs a bunch of auth code that I don't have
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: do you know of a python lib for doing all this indieauth stuff that I can use/steal ?
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aaronpk hm, i'm wondering how much vocab-specific validation I should be doing on the micropub endpoint
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: which side of indieauth?
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aaronpk I think I might whitelist some "non-content properties" like "published","category", and require at least one non-content property
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: the whole thingie. ummm let's see I make a login button and your website field and it does the whole indieauth dance for me
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KartikPrabhu 's brain is not big enough to parse the whole auth-landscape
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kylewm flask-micropub can help with the client part, but it would have to be adapted to not-flask
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KartikPrabhu ok will look into it
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kylewm doesn't bear have a lib for this?
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KartikPrabhu hmmm maybe
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KartikPrabhu err of course https://github.com/bear/ninka/tree/master/ninka
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KartikPrabhu I even suggested the name!
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KartikPrabhu bear: what do you think of separating the indieauth stuff from the micropub stuff in ninka?
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kylewm so with flask-micropub, you can call authenticate, and it won't do anything with micropub https://github.com/kylewm/flask-micropub/blob/master/flask_micropub.py#L56
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: thanks. will look into it. might be easier to adopt ninka than to un-flask flask-micropub
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GWG Anyone have what they think is a great example of displaying a like received as a webmention?
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GWG A display not a facepile style?
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KartikPrabhu GWG: text-first design. <this person> likes this post
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KartikPrabhu enhance from there
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KartikPrabhu admittedly though facepiles look nice they don't follow text-first design
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snarfed i don't know that text first design says you have to to always render as text
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snarfed progressive enhancement applies
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snarfed you just start by designing the text representation first
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: yes. that is what I meant
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snarfed ie the top priority
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KartikPrabhu facepiles only show avatars no related text as "likes this post"
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KartikPrabhu would like thoughts on how to enhance text-first likes to become facepiles
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snarfed but again, that's fine as part of text first design, as long as there's a text fallback when you can't render images
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snarfed render images when you can, text when you can't, e.g. some notifications, SMS, text mode browsers)
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: what to do with the text while converting it to facepiles? display:none?
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snarfed sure?
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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snarfed or keep it, or transform it, up to you
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KartikPrabhu must think more on this
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snarfed all i'm saying is, if i understand it right, text first design doesn't necessarily mean you *have* to always show text
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snarfed anyawy
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GWG I'm in the planning stages. That's where I stare at as many good examples to decide how I will implement.
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tantek hello from #yxyy!
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Loqi tantek: csarven left you a message 1 day, 11 hours ago: Surely you've considered "ttkme:t4bV1" or "ttk.me/ t4bV1" instead of "ttk.me t4bV1"? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434191986556
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Loqi tantek: csarven left you a message 1 day, 11 hours ago: .. and why bother with short URLs? <Insert Cool URIs arguments here> http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434192176437
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Loqi tantek: csarven left you a message 1 day, 10 hours ago: ..Made a typo; meant to say "ttk.me/t4bV1" (without space) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434196755357
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: let me know what you think of the new header on the wiki http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-13/line/1434225972386
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tantek !tell csarven all your /permashortcitation related questions already on the wiki in either "Why" sections or FAQs.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek_ greetings from #yxyy!
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aaronpk waves
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KartikPrabhu oh no there are 2 tantek's at #yxyy!
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GWG What is yxyy?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "yxyy" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=yxyy&summary=prompted+by+GWG+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-06-14%2Fline%2F1434319522957
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tantek YxYY (yxyy.us) is an annual creatives-focused conference in Palm Springs where participants brainstorm and create sessions onsite (BarCamp style) on any subject.
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tantek hmm
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tantek YxYY is yxyy.us an annual creatives-focused conference in Palm Springs where participants brainstorm and create sessions onsite (BarCamp style) on any subject.
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aaronpk what is YxYY?
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loqi.me created /YxYY (+186) "prompted by GWG https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-14/line/1434319522957 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "YxYY" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=YxYY&summary=prompted+by+aaronpk+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-06-14%2Fline%2F1434319739448
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Loqi ok
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tantek race condition ^^^ ?
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aaronpk oh funny, wonder why the parends messsed that up
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aaronpk parens*
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tantek too much before the "is"
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aaronpk ah
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aaronpk yes
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tantek interesting, on the Ace wifi the interactive web IRC logs work to *send* to the server, but do not get realtime updates
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aaronpk hopes realtime updates didn't break
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tantek probably has to do with the different ports each uses?
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aaronpk looks like it did break
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tantek aaronpk++ nice new header! with RSVP (call to) action buttons!
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Loqi aaronpk has 842 karma
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aaronpk oh..just only works on https because of CORS header stuff
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tantek aaronpk: if that's true, perhaps /irc/today should redirect to the https version of today's logs?
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aaronpk nah just fixed the header
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aaronpk now it works on http! \o/
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tantek__ now on https on interactive web IRC logs and updates work great
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aaronpk would it be safe to say that the properties author, date created, and date published are required on every post?
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tantek required in what context?
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tantek all microformats2 properties are optional
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aaronpk hmm
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tantek which means, it is always the obligation of all *consuming code* to figure out something reasonable to do when properties are absent. ALWAYS.
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aaronpk yeah. i guess this is more of an internal thing then
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tantek from a UX perspective, such burdens MUST always be put on the consuming code, *NEVER* on the publisher
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tantek because when you put such burdens on publishers you get a worse UI (too many always visible form fields, compared to Twitter's one simple textbox), you get CRAP for data (e.g. 90210 for zip codes etc.), and you get lots of confusion from publishers who get bad validator feedback about errors in their templates (tons of tweets / blog posts about "required property fn" not found in hCard in google's validator)
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tantek aaronpk - where can we document this general phenomenon so that it is more discoverable by more programmers writing consuming code?
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tantek because the "can we make such and such required" type questions do come up a lot.
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aaronpk what are required properties?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "required properties" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=required+properties&summary=prompted+by+aaronpk+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-06-14%2Fline%2F1434321008144
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tantek required properties are an anti-pattern that has been solved with [[microformats2]] - originally the result of unfortunate parsing/consuming code centric assumptions, often captured in IETF RFCs (like vCard, Atom) and propagated (like into classic microformats) that put undue burdens on publishers and result in a worse UI, poor data, and publisher confusion.
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loqi.me created /required_properties (+387) "prompted by aaronpk https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-14/line/1434321008144 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek tries using #knownchat to answer a question from the "Own Your Online Identity & Stuff" #YxYY session
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tantek !tell benwerd, kylewm is there a built-in Connected Service to propagate Known posts automatically to Tumblr?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek wonders if Bridgy supports Tumblr
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tantek reads https://www.brid.gy/about#silos and doesn't find the answer (specifically backfeed from Tumblr, and Bridgy Publish POSSE *to* Tumblr)
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rhiaro aaronpk: my micropub endpoint fills in published date and author if they're missing, and my templates won't render anything without a published date
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aaronpk rhiaro: yeah that's what i'm thinking basicallyt
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rhiaro though I was also thinking of removing auto-pubdate and having individual post templates happy with no pub date, so I can have public drafts that don't appear in any feed pages
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rhiaro ie. they won't show up on tag pages, date pages, homepage etc, but I can still see them individually. Rather than having an explicit draft flag
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aaronpk interesting idea
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rhiaro I'd probably need to add created date
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aaronpk i'm adding explicit created vs published date now
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rhiaro I started deprecating linkedin today by adding backdate posts for entries on my cv :) rhiaro.co.uk/tag/cv
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rhiaro one day I might pull through interactions from linkedin buuuuut I completely ignore them currently so maybe not
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aaronpk woohoo
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rhiaro I like the idea of getting references/recommendations by asking people to reply to the post for the specific position
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tantek what is created date?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "created date" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=created+date&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-06-14%2Fline%2F1434322572646
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rhiaro btw does anyone use h-resume? There are no examples in the wild listed on the mf wiki
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rhiaro it crossed my mind, but I'd have to add more template logic so I decided not to bother
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GWG rhiaro: I'm thinking of it, as it is time for me to update mine.
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KartikPrabhu rhiaro: I am trying to use it on my resume which isn't public at the moment due to incompleteness
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aaronpk created date is the date a post was authored, which may be different from the date the post was published, such as when a post is authored offline and published later
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loqi.me created /created_date (+193) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-14/line/1434322572646 and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek I agree with your software automatically setting the create date upon first save or first typing content into a text box or first saying "new post".
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tantek would be interesting what such implicit hints you use
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aaronpk upon reviewing my giant collection of different kinds of posts, I also realized that I sometimes want to use different properties to determine the date that is in the URL and filename
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aaronpk most of the time, I want the created date as the URL (not the published date)
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rhiaro why's that?
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Loqi gives aaronpk the created date as the URL
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rhiaro oh for when you write a backlog offline I guess
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk because then my date permalinks actually show what happened that day
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aaronpk however, for posts that contain a date of their own (events, sleep, travel, bike rides, etc), I want the URL to be the date the thing happens
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rhiaro yeah
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Loqi gives aaronpk the URL to be the date the thing happens
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rhiaro I struggled a bit with this for travel plans
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aaronpk because the date I created the event post is not as important as the date the event happens
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rhiaro for a while they didn't have published dates, just start and end dates
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rhiaro but I added published dates, so they show up when I created them in the homepage feed (ie. when I 'made' that travel plan) but on the /travel and /calendar pages start dates are used for sorting
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rhiaro and events actually
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aaronpk yep that's basically where i'm going with this
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snarfed tantek: sorry no, no bridgy backfeed from or publish to tumblr
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rhiaro is your new mp endpoint going to accept json?
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snarfed https://www.brid.gy/about#which and https://www.brid.gy/about#publish are comprehensive
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aaronpk rhiaro: yeah
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aaronpk rhiaro: edit posts like this too https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/615ab9ae11ae7be25fea
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snarfed tumblr support is just for receiving and sending webmentions: https://www.brid.gy/about#blogs
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rhiaro aaronpk: are you going to update quill to post json? or make a new client?
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aaronpk i'm still going to accept form-encoded posts for creating things
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rhiaro yeah, makes sense
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aaronpk i'll update quill to support editing later, but not going to change it for now
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aaronpk hmm, typing that out in english was useful. I think I just figured out how to write the code for this
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rhiaro for which part?
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aaronpk if the post has a start date, use that for building the filename and URL, otherwise use the publish date
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aaronpk s/publish/created
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Loqi aaronpk meant to say: if the post has a start date, use that for building the filename and URL, otherwise use the created date
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rhiaro yeah
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aaronpk is trying to avoid creating a hierarchy of classes for post types again
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rhiaro +1
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tantek hierarchyofclasses--
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Loqi hierarchyofclasses has -1 karma
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tantek what is Tumblr
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Loqi Tumblr is a popular content hosting silo, especially for found images & video, that explicitly supports multiple types of posts, and through free domain mapping, a content hosting service as well https://indiewebcamp.com/Tumblr
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snarfed fwiw, https://silo.pub/ offers micropub support for tumblr
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aaronpk hehehe silo.pub is the best domain
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tantek snarfed - but that's a bit more involved than Bridgy Publish webmention style support
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snarfed yup! just saying.
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tantek what is silo.pub?
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Loqi silo.pub is a Micropub endpoint for hosted blogs like Tumblr, WordPress.com, and Blogger https://indiewebcamp.com/silo.pub
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@dym_cx @sikkdays @aaronpk https://indiewebcamp.com/Known#IndieWeb_Examples (twitter.com/_/status/610222683784118272)
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tantek snarfed: does anyone do that currently?
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snarfed tantek: that? micropub to tumblr? i assume so. kylewm runs silo.pub; he'd know
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snarfed maybe KevinMarks?
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tantek.com edited /Tumblr (+297) "silo pub to Tumblr" (view diff)
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tantek snarfed, kylewm, KevinMarks well if you can confirm it one way or another - please edit/add to https://indiewebcamp.com/Tumblr#silo_pub_to_Tumblr
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tantek goes to search bridgy issues
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KevinMarks I have micropubbed to tumblr, yes
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KevinMarks I haven't set it up to posse that way yet
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tantek have you manually POSSEd to Tumblr via silo.pub?
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tantek and if so, could you provide permalinks of the original and the POSSE copy
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tantek.com edited /Tumblr (+217) "/* POSSE to Tumblr */ Bridgy Publish POSSE to Tumblr - not yet, but referenced gh issue with call to action to help add that support" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Tumblr (+169) "/* Bridgy Publish POSSE to Tumblr */ link gh issue Bridgy Publish response to Tumblr permalinks, to Tumblr itself" (view diff)
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snarfed tantek: thanks! maybe a dupe of https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/272 though?
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tantek snarfed - nope - see latest update - 272 is a *very* specific request
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tantek to POSSE response to Tumblr permalinks, natively on Tumblr itself
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snarfed ah, 272 is responses/interactions but not original posts. ok
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KevinMarks http://kevinmarks.tumblr.com/post/118736710410/does-editing-ui-affect-writing-style
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KevinMarks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2015/does-edit-ui-affect-writing-style
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KevinMarks Quill deletes the text after posting, so changing auth to repost was fiddly
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tantek KevinMarks: note that your Known permalink lacks a rel-syndication URL to the POSSE copy on Tumblr
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tantek.com edited /Tumblr (+1550) "/* POSSE to Tumblr */ a few more specific instances of Bridgy Publish 272, add reply to Tumblr posts POSSE and POSSE Replies to Tumblr subsections, note KevinMarks manual POSSE to Tumblr example" (view diff)
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tantek ok I think I just captured all that
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tantek Thanks for the quick responses snarfed, KevinMarks !
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tantek and with that our #YxYY session on Owning your Online Identity & Stuff is a wrap! Thanks everyone! It's pool time
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aaronpk cannot for the life of me figure out why Ican't catch this exception. Lumen seems to be catching it first
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KevinMarks Right, because I was doing it manually
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poka ar x /pool/main/d/DGAF.deb && tar -xzvf data.tar.gz
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