#indiewebcamp

2015-07-11

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tantek
KevinMarks - re: iframe and src, not sure, do you have a use-case? regardless, document it here where there’s the related question of e- and iframe srcdoc! http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#e-_parsing_iframe_srcdoc (make a new same level subhead for “u- parsing iframe src” )
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@tvnweb
#IndieWebCamp Brighton starts in a few hours. Super excited! (twtr.io/11VwrQHHq_f)
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seekr
I think we're all excited, Loqi!
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rhiaro
All these other people announcing they're excited is making me more excited :)
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tommorris.org
edited /sleep (+339) "adding SleepyHead" (view diff)
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tommorris.org
edited /area-tag (+138) "adding link to RDFa and HTML imagemap post by Karl Dubost" (view diff)
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+107) "/* This Is A Movement */ fix 3 images, drop two offline sites" (view diff)
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tommorris.org
edited /2014-review (+13) "/* Technologies */ adding Google Docs to marginalia" (view diff)
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@tinokremer
#indieweb About Google+ and POSSE, @erinjo @benwerd @kevinmarks http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/google-needs-write-api-to-support-posse-and-fix-their (twtr.io/11VyWQzzrAw)
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tantek.com
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@bertweb79
Ha ancora senso avere un blog? Forse sì: Pingback, Webmentions e VRM http://www.dagoneye.it/blog/2015/07/06/ha-ancora-senso-avere-un-blog-forse-si-pingback-webmentions-e-vrm/ via @dagoneye (twtr.io/11VyoMd6AmQ)
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+6) "/* This Is A Movement */ update GWG image" (view diff)
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tantek.com
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: might I suggest putting an author name/url on https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Summary_And_Looking_Forward ? reads like a personal statement
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tantek.com
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: I decided to draft it on the wiki so anyone could contribute - not the place of finaly publication
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tantek
s/finaly/final
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: KartikPrabhu: I decided to draft it on the wiki so anyone could contribute - not the place of final publication
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tantek
(and have repeatedly asked people to do so)
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tantek
but now I’m wrestling with a weird people grid effect when the names are hidden!
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KartikPrabhu
true. but since the wiki might not be edited, it would be good practice to attribute any personal statement sounding things
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seekr
weird effect or weird people, tantek? :)
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tantek
no I didn’t want to do that becuase I didn’t want to discourage contributions even further :/
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tantek
weird effect
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seekr
ah
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: I like the statement itself btw :)
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tantek
seekr, we already know we’re all push the boundaries of what it means to be independent on the web ;)
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tantek.com
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seekr
that's why I know I'm gonna love you guys (and gals) so very very much, tantek!
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seekr
i.e. "weird is good!" :)
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tantek.com
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KartikPrabhu
seekr: do you already have your own website? link?
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tantek
fixed weird effect!
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KartikPrabhu
wiki+CSS is strange to say the least
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tantek.com
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seekr
KartikPrabhu: Well, I don't have a site that's relevant for IndieWebCamp purposes - closest thing is a now-defunct site (domain name expires in a couple weeks and I don't intend to renew it): http://welovemarketbasket.org/
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KartikPrabhu
seekr: most of the work here is improving ones own site and online identity
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seekr
KartikPrabhu: I did some software in Perl and PHP to produce what you see in the right-hand "Newswire" column. Now I'm mainly interested in finding alternatives to Facebook and Twitter for another site I'm working on. I'm hoping someone in this community will have some suggestions (I have found some via non-evilGoogle searches, but haven't had a chance to check 'em out yet).
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KartikPrabhu
tantek++ I show up on the 2014-review attendee page finally :P
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Loqi
tantek has 214 karma
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seekr
should off-site attendees do the RSVP thing - maybe to get listed?
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tantek
seekr - yes! there is a remote participation section on the Guest List - add yourself to the wiki page
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tantek
e.g. https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Guest_List#Remote_Participants
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KartikPrabhu
seekr: that is a good goal! Anyone wanting to "finding alternatives to Facebook and Twitter" would want to have their own website as an online identity
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Loqi
[bridgy] Paul Schoonhoven commented 'Google regelt het iets anders. Met copy/paste in een nieuw bericht pakt G+ gelijk de eerste link die het tegenkomt en verder geeft ie de ee...' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
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tantek
seekr - do you use Facebook or Twitter yourself personally?
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seekr
Good advice, KartikPrabhu++! I'll get to work on it soonish. Finding this community is truly inspirational!
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KartikPrabhu
seekr: awesome!
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seekr
tantek: Well, I have a bogus Facebook acct, which I use only for snooping purposes, and I very occasionally use Twitter to track some issue that interests me. Other than those exceptions, no.
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seekr
I eschew Google also, though I've been known to use the translator occasionally, and I don't know how to avoid uToob (though I can use a non-web client to avoid tracking).
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voldn
echo 127.0.0.1 www.youtube.com >> /etc/hosts # how to avoid uToob
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Loqi
[[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Tantek.com * uploaded "[[File:2014-indieweb-movement.jpg]]"
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seekr
thanks much, voldn! very much obliged
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seekr
oh wait, it's a joke!
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seekr
yeah - well, that's one way, but kinda overkill, methinks, voldn
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tantek
seekr - do you publish anything personally on Twitter or Tumblr?
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tantek.com
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seekr
negative, tantek - I try to keep a very low profile
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seekr
I want to avoid all the corporate behemoths, if possible
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tantek
seekr - sure. Would you publish notes or longer thoughts on your own site if you had it?
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tantek
or even just a portfolio / resume?
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seekr
I might well do, tantek - I could easily install blog software - maybe WordPress and do my own blog.
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seekr
that too, maybe
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tantek
seekr - exactly, WordPress, or Known (see http://withknown.com/ ) which is newer and has a lot of indieweb features built into it already
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seekr
ah - yeah - second time I've heard about known today - gotta check it out!
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seekr
I know that WP is subject to various forms of insidious attack.
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seekr
In fact, I got direct experience of that fact via the site I mentioned a short while ago - lots of spam activity, which is a bit different, but still quite annoying and time-consuming to deal with
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tantek
right
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tantek
anyway, consider getting a domain per /Getting_Started and setting up /Known on it
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tantek
then a lot of this will make more sense
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seekr
Maybe known isn't yet well enough known to make it a worthwhile target (yet). (?)
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tantek
possibly
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seekr
but with an active developer community, I reckon that ways can and will be found to deal with such things if and when they occur
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voldn
what the hells is Indie about the ICANN/DNS behemoth? why are you encouraging domain purchasing?
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seekr
what's the alternative, voldn, something like no-ip?
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tantek
voldn - yup, already documented and why: http://indiewebcamp.com/DNS#Hierarchical_Vulnerability
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KevinMarks_
Hm, srcdoc for e- is interesting. Would e- on an iframe with srcset imply fetching the src?
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seekr
Does anyone here have preferred alternatives to Facebook and/or Twitter?
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KevinMarks_
s/srcset/src/
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Loqi
KevinMarks_ meant to say: Hm, srcdoc for e- is interesting. Would e- on an iframe with src imply fetching the src?
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tantek
seekr - yes, nearly everyone does - that’s the point
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tantek
the preferred alternative is to use your own site
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KevinMarks_
But we also POSSE to fb/tw etc
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tantek
and optionally syndicate to Facebook & Twitter for distribution
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seekr
link, KevinMarks?
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KevinMarks_
What is bridgy
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Loqi
Bridgy is an open source project and proxy that implements backfeed as a service https://indiewebcamp.com/bridgy
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KevinMarks_
What is posse
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Loqi
POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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@glennjones
Heading off to @indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twtr.io/11W1s1PXXug)
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KartikPrabhu
seekr: here you go https://kartikprabhu.com/notes lots of stuff that may or may not be syndicated anywhere but exists on my own site
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seekr
ah - guess I need to do some reading and study, and "get with the programme!" :)
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seekr
thanks much, KartikPrabhu!
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KevinMarks_
The use cases I have, Tantek, are hovercard as iframe and post comments as iframe
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tantek
KevinMarks - cool - please write it up as such on that spot I linked to on the wiki
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KartikPrabhu
or as a blog post ;)
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KartikPrabhu
needs to really get on with the "navigation links direction post"
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KevinMarks_
I am wondering if there is a different parsing directive that means "fetch the src of this iframe and parse it as if it was here in the html"
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KartikPrabhu
IWC is upon us
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KartikPrabhu
KevinMarks_ not in mf2 parsing algo
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KevinMarks_
No, not yet.
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tantek
KevinMarks: no fetching in the parsing algorithm - that’s a bad layering violation
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tantek
the parsing algorithm can give you URLs back - it’s up to your use of a parser to go fetch any URLs you need to for whatever reason
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KartikPrabhu
i don't think there should be. If anything we should define use-cases where the consumer of some mf2 page can decide that given a parsed mf2
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KevinMarks_
I'm trying to work out the "comments on a static site" case
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tantek
KevinMarks_: that’s fine, you can add that functionality into a library that calls the parser
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KevinMarks_
And iframed comments seem better than js-injected ones
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tantek
but first, write up your thought about u- iframe src on the wiki
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KartikPrabhu
tantek yes but there needs to be a well-defined algorithm to decide if comments are in the page or at a separate URL
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tantek
so at least that’s not lost in the IRC logs
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KartikPrabhu
fwiwi. I was musing having a "hijax" link to comments as well
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KartikPrabhu
what is h-card?
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Loqi
hCard is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up people, organizations, and venues on web sites https://indiewebcamp.com/h-card
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: if there are indie comments on a page, the assumption is that they link to their permalink provides canonical information
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tantek
no algorithm needed
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@alicenwondrlnd
Heading off to #IndieWebCamp - hoping to learn lots of cool stuff! (twtr.io/11W2Qe3TLAf)
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: no the use-case is if there only is a link to some comments list page on the actual article
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KevinMarks_
Hm, could a marginalia comment be an iframe?
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tantek
that doesn’t make sense
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KevinMarks_
My specific use case is that I have comments on my static pages that are injected js-injected
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: a lot of sites use JS to load comments. A good way to doing that is to have a separate comments page for any given article and then use JS to include comments when some one clicks on "Show comments"
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KevinMarks_
Which means they can't be part of a salmention
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@tvnweb
Getting ready for #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619785588707860481/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W2b8BeMEg)
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KartikPrabhu
progressive disclosure or something
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tantek
goes back to working on /2014-review until KevinMarks adds his suggestion to the microformats wiki as noted already.
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@andybudd
RT @tvnweb: Getting ready for #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619785588707860481/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W2e3iNS3j)
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@andybudd
RT @alicenwondrlnd: Heading off to #IndieWebCamp - hoping to learn lots of cool stuff! (twtr.io/11W2eH_Ttoo)
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KevinMarks_
But an iframe let's me transclude comments
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KartikPrabhu
it is similar to having a partial h-card on homepage but a separate page with full h-card
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: no one here is doing separate page for comments yet, so when someone starts experimenting with that, we can discuss it. Til then, not really worth worrying about to that level of detail.
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KartikPrabhu
like I do one my site
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KevinMarks_
I think iframe fetching is more robust than js parsing
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: true. I was worrying because I was considering implementing that but did not (yet).
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tantek
you can do so without worrying about any formats stuff - you can just do the HTML CSS etc. that you want
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tantek
and from that we can learn what is actually needed
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tantek
instead of having a hypothetical discussion
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: yes agreed. If I really want to I should just go ahead and implement it. but i can't decide if I want to :P
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: you can braindump your thoughts about it, and why you’re unsure, in a new section like: https://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#Brainstorming
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tantek
that way you at least capture your current partial thinking, instead of being stuck musing about it in IRC ;)
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: don't give me more things to do :P
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: that’s what happens when people bring up new things in IRC :)
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KartikPrabhu
I am musing in my head KevinMarks_ prompted this IRC braindump. I blame him ;)
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KevinMarks
http://www.unmung.com/?html=%3Cdiv+id%3D%22preview%22%3E%0D%0A%3Cp%3E%3Ca+class%3D%22h-card+p-category%22+href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fchristophermarks.me%22%3E%3Ciframe+class%3D%22u-hovercard%22+height%3D%22120%22+width%3D%22240%22+src%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unmung.com%2Fhovercard%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fchristophermarks.me%22%3EChristopher+Marks%3C%2Fiframe%3E%3C%2Fa%3E%3A++%3C%2Fp%3E%3Cblockquote%3E%3Cp%3EI+don%27t+use+twitte
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KartikPrabhu
holy URLs Batman!
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tantek
it’s also a more polite way of saying, ok go capture your thoughts in one place where you’ll have to make them more coherent than a series of hard to follow IRC statements (and nearly impossible to understand from the logs)
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: of course I see why you'd ask for documentation :)
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tantek
see it’s URLs like that that I have no desire to click - tl;dc
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: it’s a way of reducing noise in the channel too - at some point, unbounded musings become noise
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KartikPrabhu
nods
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KartikPrabhu
also hopes he makes a decision and blog about it
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tantek
and the point is, if you do actualy care enough, you’ll go write it up a brief braindump on the wiki - which is LESS work than doing a blog post
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Loqi
[bridgy] Tino Kremer commented 'I know how Google+ operates. I'm expressing my opinion about it. In fact +Jeff Jarvis​ has asked for proper link support many times as well....' on a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
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KartikPrabhu
I rarely blog about things I haven't decided yet, so this "navigation thing" is priority post
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tantek
wikis are good for capturing your thinking on things you haven’t decided yet
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KartikPrabhu
possibly but I traditionally use my brains for that ;)
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KevinMarks
I was on my phone, making wiki edits hard
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KartikPrabhu
but that is no good for others to contribute
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KartikPrabhu
is bad at the interwebz
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tantek
right
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LukasRos
Good morning IndieWeb folks :)
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KartikPrabhu
Good "it is awfully late here" LukasRos
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seekr
good mornin', LukasRos
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KevinMarks
the point of that link is that currently a u-* on an iframe reads the fallback text instead of the src
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LukasRos
Can’t be at IWC this weekend but I’ll try to follow at least a bit over IRC.
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@alpower
@glennjones @indiewebcamp sad to be missing it (at a wedding!) - have fun all #IndieWebCamp (twtr.io/11W3_qv7S4p)
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tantek
KevinMarks - at this point - not really interested in more supportive arguments - just take the time to document on the wiki on a laptop if necessary
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KevinMarks
will do
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LukasRos
Is there already anyone from Brighton in this channel?
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seekr
waves at keroberos, who he thanks again for turning him on to IndieWebCamp!
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tantek
LukasRos: people have been saying they’re in transit
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keroberos
heyhey
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LukasRos
tantek: Ah ok. I thought they must have started by now but I did the timezone math wrong ...
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seekr
should start in ~15 mins (?) - any info on video streams yet?
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tantek
rhiaro: hoping to hear from you that you’ve gotten adactio to setup talky at IWC Brighton with the HD stereo camera he has!
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+305) "/* Services */ Withknown.com" (view diff)
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KevinMarks
hm, embedding an iframe from unmung in unmung is apparently a CORS violation
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KevinMarks
or a sign that I need a new scratch workspace
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@tvnweb
Breakfast at #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619790825149595648/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W4UNJ59u8)
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KartikPrabhu
is very tempted to complete the "navigation UI" post in time for IWC Portland but is also tempted to sleep
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: fwiw I have decided to not have a separate comments page for article since I would complicate marginalia.js a whole lot more
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rhiaro
arrived at iwc, people drinking coffee
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KartikPrabhu
particularly if I use a "hijax" version on the comments page on the actual post then readers won't be able to see marginalia unless they click on "see comments" link
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@cathcoste
RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twtr.io/11W4qQF5jp5)
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rhiaro
has not figured out the wifi yet
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@L_Macnaughtan
RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twtr.io/11W5E3NNgCZ)
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: you should write up “separate comments page” as inevitably it will become necessary once you get too many (100s?) of comments on an post or paragraph etc.
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tantek
inline response display only scales so far
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tantek
oops just missed you KartikPrabhu - see log
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KartikPrabhu
boop! I'm here
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KartikPrabhu
bad internets
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KartikPrabhu
yes, I should. in fact I was contemplating a separate comments page for exactly those reasons
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KartikPrabhu
rhiaro: If it isn't too much trouble, could you wave "fanboyishly" for me at adactio, since his site is the one that brought me here :D
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rhiaro
talky.io/iwcbrighton
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rhiaro
How's it looking/sounding?
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@PhilippeLoizon
RT @healthbankcoop: . @EricTopol on democratization of medicine, @healthbankcoop. http://www.vascularthinktank.com/#!Exclusive-Interview-Dr-Eric-Topol-on-the-Democratization-of-Medicine/c193z/559feb620cf2ba155ecd018d via @marcelsalathe #ownyourdata ht… (twtr.io/11W5ijcWt54)
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rhiaro
beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton actually
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LukasRos
I have a picture.
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LukasRos
And sound too.
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KevinMarks
I have a portait format adactio
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KevinMarks
who is talking in german?
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KevinMarks
LukasRos? is that you?
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LukasRos
Oops sorry, yes.
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+36) "/* Remote Attending */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks
no problem, just wanted to be sure you realised you were overheard
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LukasRos
doesn’t know the difference between turning speaker off and microphone on.
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+18) "/* Remote Attending */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks
I have a microphone with it's own mute button. much safer
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KevinMarks
oops, brighton vanished
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+61) "/* Indie Web Camp Brighton 2015 */" (view diff)
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@tommorris
#indiewebcamp https://tommorris.org/ year in review https://tommorris.org/posts/9344 (twtr.io/11W6TUgqP_Q)
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rhiaro
ping seeker: streaming has begun http://beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton
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rhiaro
s/seeker/seekr
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Loqi
rhiaro meant to say: ping seekr: streaming has begun http://beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton
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@kevinmarks
RT @tommorris: #indiewebcamp https://tommorris.org/ year in review https://tommorris.org/posts/9344 (twtr.io/11W6ZTyoi5c)
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KevinMarks
not seeing it rhiaro
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@tvnweb
. @adactio kicking off #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619796917590036480/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W6dxDnwo0)
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rhiaro
Hmm
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rhiaro
LukasRos: is it working for you?
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rhiaro
It *looks* fine
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rhiaro
KevinMarks can you hear?
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KevinMarks
no
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KevinMarks
I'll reload
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rhiaro
If that doesn't work, I'll reload
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KevinMarks
only seeing myself
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rhiaro
I'm reloading
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@Vecchi_Paolo
@ellenbroad It's quite normal but maybe there is also a lot of people going to the Indie Web Camp today https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twtr.io/11W6pB26hLo)
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rhiaro
I see KevinMarks
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rhiaro
briefly
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rhiaro
sound okay?
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KevinMarks
yes
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rhiaro
awesome
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LukasRos
rhiaro: Now it’s working again.
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rhiaro
adactio: introduces IWC, principles, shows own site "crappy php, not proud of it, but it works"
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: my website is http://adactio.com - it's 10 year old crappy PHP I'm not proud of, but it works (twtr.io/11W6x6mgJnU)
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rhiaro
... Also owns own bookmarks. Lists sites he used that went down..
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seekr
thanks, rhiaro & Loqi - was in the kitchen rustlin' up a bit o' brekkie :) - will attempt to tune in
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rhiaro
... Has a bookmarklet
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I own my own links. I used to use delicious, but it died, then I used magnolia… now I use my own site (twtr.io/11W70Lzo5kb)
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rhiaro
KevinMarks if you're going to live tweet I won't scribe in here
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@Lottejackson
#IndieWebCamp Brighton has started! https://twitter.com/Lottejackson/status/619797970914013184/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W71XonqKj)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: at the last indiewebcamp in Dusseldorf, which was a lot of fun, I added sending webmentions to sites I link to (twtr.io/11W74Mqijzk)
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KevinMarks
I may fall asleep though
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rhiaro
I'll pick up if so :)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: when I post a photo I send a copy to twitter - I highly recommend it - I'm no longer a slave to twitter (twtr.io/11W79QdbG8Y)
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rhiaro
Push notification from twitter: "kevinmarks and tommorris are tweeting about indiewebcamp"
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seekr
thanks, rhiaro - talky still seems to be unworking for me (Linux & Firefox) - may have to try Windoze under vbox
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: ideally I want to do with instagram what I do with twitter, but there is no posting api (twtr.io/11W7BsAeGks)
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tommorris
rhiaro: ha
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rhiaro
seekr: it *should* work in firefox I think... but I think it works best in chrome
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rhiaro
or chromium
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: instead I use http://ownyourgram.com to get the photo back from instagram to my site with micropub (twtr.io/11W7E8AT9iV)
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seekr
eschews chrome, along with as much of the rest of the googleverse as possible
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: what I want to do is POSSE - Post Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere (twtr.io/11W7GuBvfJ8)
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seekr
ah - I could try chromium, rhiaro
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rhiaro
seekr: what's not working specifically. Site not loading, or just no video/audio?
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: but with instagram I have to do PESOS - Post Elsewhere Share Own Site - I'm not proud of these acronyms (twtr.io/11W7LmY9bH4)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: It feels very good to be hosting my own photos - i have 10 years of flickr ones I should import (twtr.io/11W7Ps8k7LY)
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KevinMarks
who's next?
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rhiaro
petermnolar
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rhiaro
I might have spelt that wrong
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rhiaro
petermolnar ?
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ShaneHudson_
Hey all, just joined talky :)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @petermolnar: I used to have my own CMS, and I could run wordpress but that gets hacked a lot (twtr.io/11W7_31eXuf)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @petermolnar: so I have my own site with posts based on markdown https://petermolnar.eu (twtr.io/11W7dCBxik4)
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @petermolnar: wordpress has a lot of plugins that help with the indieweb that do webmentions and other indieweb apis (twtr.io/11W7go_EGbG)
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+61) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ tommorris's year in review" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @petermolnar: I wrote a little plugin called keyring reactions importer that brings in facebook, twitter etc without using brid.gy (twtr.io/11W7k4oPDmf)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @petermolnar: brid.gy is brilliant if you want to use it; I'm fed up with social networks so now I only post on my own site (twtr.io/11W7nk8RUtL)
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tantek
rhiaro: you should still scribe here since KevinMarks is summarizing
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tantek
yay I see adactio on the screen now
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rhiaro
tantek: it was all duplicate for a while
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Loqi
does a happy dance!
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tantek
he said he’s going to demonstrate Bridgy
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rhiaro
*adactio demos bridgy*
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: let me show brid.gy in action what happens when someone replies on twitter to one of my posts that I have shared there (twtr.io/11W7rhPA1xL)
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@tommorris
#indiewebcamp Brighton demo notes https://tommorris.org/posts/9345 (twtr.io/11W7sLc4gop)
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tantek
rhiaro: duplication is ok - we can dedup later ;)
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rhiaro
I think KevinMarks is scribing pretty thoroughly
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tantek
waves at adactio
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tantek
adactio: for example, all these likes came from instagram
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rhiaro
waving only works if you turn your camera on
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: brid.gy sends a notification via webmention when you receive comments (twtr.io/11W7xDEaHps)
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petermolnar
(macs... glowing apples everywhere...)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: Brid.gy is open source so you could run your own instance of it, but it runs really really well (twtr.io/11W80R9Av0G)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: you can also use brid.gy to publish to silos; I use it for the incoming (twtr.io/11W82RE_wCo)
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tommorris
my notes are now cc0
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KevinMarks
what's rosa's twitter again
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tantek
tommorris++
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Loqi
tommorris has 83 karma
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rhiaro
rosa-fox.com
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tantek
KevinMarks check /2014/UK
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ShaneHudson_
@Rosaemerald
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@tinokremer
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @petermolnar: wordpress has a lot of plugins that help with the indieweb that do webmentions and other indieweb a… (twtr.io/11W89BeUNUH)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @Rosaemerald: I made my own site last year at indiewebcamp, using a template (twtr.io/11W89hH4V0o)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @Rosaemerald: I made my site by copying a lot of html in one giant page; now I want to make separate posts so you can link (twtr.io/11W8DH5p4Vs)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: one thing is to add the h-entry microformat to your blog posts so it can make sense to other people you mention (twtr.io/11W8GCX3cPC)
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KevinMarks
should add url hcard parsing to noterlive as well as twitter handle fetching
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KevinMarks
who's next?
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@tinokremer
@kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twtr.io/11W8NMT0isY)
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rhiaro
john-ellison.com
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rhiaro
I seem to have lost my namebadge already
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @iamjohnellison: I have my own site at http://john-ellison.com based on ghost (twtr.io/11W8YZ7WEYY)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: there is a service at webmention.io that will handle webmentions for you and some js to embed in your site (twtr.io/11W8aSCHVt5)
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KevinMarks
who's hammering?
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petermolnar
unknown builder on the roof
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rhiaro
someone next room
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @iamjohnellison: if i have Ghost self-hosted I can use webmentions? (twtr.io/11W8doWC62f)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: you can use 3rd parties like webmention.io and http://webmention.herokuapp.com to embed mentions by javascript (twtr.io/11W8gpX3Euw)
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tantek
hey it’s rhiaro
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tantek
her site is PHP+MySQL
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tantek
posts all her notes to her site and POSSEs to Twitter
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: I'm Amy - been involved in indieweb for about a year - my site is http://rhiaro.co.uk (twtr.io/11W8khnvg9L)
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@petermolnar
@kevinmarks @iamjohnellison not directly with Ghost, you'll need something, like webmention.io that accepts webmentions. (twtr.io/11W8m80GSTC)
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tantek
she has a /micropub endpoint on her server
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tantek
she didn’t want to write a posting client, so she likes to use /Quill
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: it's some PHP I wrote - I have a micropub endpoint so I can post using http://quill.p3k.io (twtr.io/11W8q7TNjG0)
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tantek
rhiaro posts checkins, notes, longer articles with titles, bookmarks, RSVPs, reposts
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tantek
likes as well
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: I post checkins, notes, longer articles, bookmarks, RSVPs and likes (twtr.io/11W8seS6eW8)
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tantek
I don’t go near Twitter half the time, I just use Quill and Bridgy.
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: I do a like using quill, and brid.gy sends it to twitter -i don't go near twitter myself (twtr.io/11W8vkGbvYG)
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tantek
I don’t have my own webmention endpoint at the moment, I use webmention.io
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petermolnar
what is quill?
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: I don't have my own webmention endpoint at the moment so I use webmention.io for it (twtr.io/11W8xqvMQcL)
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Loqi
Quill is a simple app for posting text notes to your website using micropub https://indiewebcamp.com/Quill
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: this is all the webmentions for my homepage on webmention.io (twtr.io/11W95hvJojo)
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KevinMarks
what was the question?
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Loqi
question is a post type for soliciting answer replies, which are then typically up/down voted by others and then displayed underneath the question post ordered by highest positive vote count rather than time ordered https://indiewebcamp.com/question
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petermolnar
KevinMarks: pagination on webmention.io to prevent MASSIVE json blobs
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tantek
adactio framing IndieAuth: using one of the principles of the indieweb thing which is to be as lazy as possible, we use third parties
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ShaneHudson_
Oh dear, I have an issue with indie auth... changed twitter to use a folder instead of root for website and cloudflare now does email protection lol
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: what quill does is let you authenticate using indieauth with your own website, using the principle of being lazy (twtr.io/11W9Ckk2M_w)
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@tinokremer
#indieweb I'm new to #IndieWeb (2 weeks), my site (Known) is http://stream.tinokremer.nl/ and I love it. @kevinmarks (twtr.io/11W9D5qEkL0)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: so I put in my URL, it looks for rel-me links to a sites with OAuth and logs me in there (twtr.io/11W9FGxoiSw)
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@tinokremer
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: what quill does is let you authenticate using indieauth with your own website, using the principle of b… (twtr.io/11W9HHiz8Ds)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: If someone wants to make a beautiful posting interface, you can make it work for any site (twtr.io/11W9JACxA6w)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: go to https://quill.p3k.io/editor for a nicer interface like medium (twtr.io/11W9K_yDSYZ)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: with something like quill you can make it available for anyone to use to post to their site via micropub (twtr.io/11W9P48SxM4)
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@calum_ryan
Pondering over possible upgrades to my site this weekend #indiewebcamp (twtr.io/11W9SB31yy8)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: the idea is that instead of creating interfaces from scratch, you can share the interface to anyone (twtr.io/11W9SGo1TbY)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: you could even make a native app that uses the micropub api to post to our sites (twtr.io/11W9UMuQRJw)
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@tinokremer
@kevinmarks also see http://stream.tinokremer.nl/2015/why-i-write-on-my-own-site-first #indieweb (twtr.io/11W9UPdbtQG)
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petermolnar
rhiaro why y no https? :)
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rhiaro
getting around to it petermolnar
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rhiaro
Maybe I'll deal with that this weekend too
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KevinMarks
is this petere again?
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KevinMarks
who dis?
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rhiaro
KevinMarks: this is Lewis
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rhiaro
lewisnyman.co.uk
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rhiaro
Switched his personal site from drupal to jekyll
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rhiaro
..hates thinking about servers
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @lewisnyman: I switched my site http:/// from Drupal to Jekyl which felt greta as I was writing html again (twtr.io/11W9eaWD2dw)
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rhiaro
... But started wanting to do more, own more content, publish to twitter. Found this really difficult
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @lewisnyman: as I started wanting to do more- post images and so on, I found this more difficult (twtr.io/11W9grSTF7j)
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petermolnar
rhiaro : ssl.com; free for 3 month periods ( you can re-apply when it expires ); fairly easy to set up
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rhiaro
... Process right now is to write a flat file in local environment and deploy compiled code to github
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rhiaro
petermolnar: thanks! I didn't know that one
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petermolnar
unlike startssl, which is horrible
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rhiaro
Indeed
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @lewisnyman: as I was writing flat files on my local machine, I couldn't use it from my phone (twtr.io/11W9jWQbfTj)
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tantek
petermolnar could you add that about ssl.com to /HTTPS ?
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rhiaro
*live googling*
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@tvnweb
. @lewisnyman Shows off his website at #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619805744603496448/photo/1 (twtr.io/11W9o8qX07U)
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petermolnar
yep
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @rhiaro: there is something called Jekmentions for jekyll webmentions (twtr.io/11W9pSQNyzC)
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petermolnar
I'll add some best practices as well, even though I hate that phrase
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KevinMarks
what is jekmentions
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Loqi
Jekmentions is a service that works as webmention endpoint and saves the received webmentions in a GitHub repository https://indiewebcamp.com/Jekmentions
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rhiaro
adactio: anyone else using jekyll? *several hands up*
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LukasRos
rhiaro and others: There’s also the option to use Cloudflare and their free SSL certificates, but it’s a MITM proxy. I use that for my site.
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: anyone using jekyll? (many hands go up) (twtr.io/11W9u9nAKJR)
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petermolnar
do we have a server provider recommendations wiki page?
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petermolnar
for self hosted things
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petermolnar
by the way, rhiaro if you're not in a hurry, you may want to wait for https://letsencrypt.org/
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rhiaro
Giulia
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tantek
petermolnar, yes, see what is webhosting?
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Loqi
Web hosting is perhaps the primary regular cost in maintaining an Indie Web Site (more expensive than most domain name registrations/renewals) https://indiewebcamp.com/webhosting
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rhiaro
petermolnar: I am waiting for letsencrypt (in March they said July, I guess it's now September..?) but I should sort something out in the mean time
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rhiaro
giugee.com/blog
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rhiaro
... I wouldn't say 'website' more 'collection of pages'. Likes a static website.
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petermolnar
thanks tantek
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rhiaro
... Own server on Digital Ocean
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shanehudson.net
edited /2015/Brighton (+277) "Added myself to remote" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... Ruby and Octopress. Connect to github with webhooks, to have blog on github, so there's always a mirror
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Giulia: My site is at http://giugee.com/blog but it is more of a set of static pages that I post on my own server and github (twtr.io/11WABYYCDs0)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Giulia: I connect to github with webhooks so there is always a mirror available (twtr.io/11WADtxFYcL)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I'd like to have static versions of my site somewhere safe in case my database goes down (twtr.io/11WAGz19g2w)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I like having github to show me all the changes I have down (twtr.io/11WALELwQ28)
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KevinMarks
markdown--
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Loqi
markdown has -2 karma
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rhiaro
markdown++
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rhiaro
:)
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Loqi
markdown has -1 karma
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petermolnar
?
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tantek
references his obligatory tantek.com/w/Markdown
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ShaneHudson_
I write in markdown and export as html (in iA Writer Pro)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @adactio: I'm not sure I would store markdown (twtr.io/11WAPCc3_g4)
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rhiaro
tantek, I'm sure I recall a couple of the markdown improvements you mention on your Markdown post actually already exist
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rhiaro
Like, alternative way for headings
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rhiaro
It's been a while since I read it
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rhiaro
tommorris.org
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tantek
yay tommorris!
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Loqi
:D
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rhiaro
... Rails, Postgres
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rhiaro
... In built edit
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I'm tom at https://tommorris.org/ - the site is built in rails with a postgres backend; it's mostly posts (twtr.io/11WAYmx1AUG)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I have my own edit ui with posts and tags to add (twtr.io/11WA_o_0YrC)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twtr.io/11WAd5NToyf)
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petermolnar.eu
edited /HTTPS (+101) "adding link to free ssl.com certificate" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... Sign in with Persona
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I use OpenStreetMap for locations and Mozilla Persona to sign in (twtr.io/11WAgVauso0)
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rhiaro
twilio++
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Loqi
twilio has 2 karma
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petermolnar.eu
edited /HTTPS (+274) (view diff)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: one thing I did a while back is using twilio to send an xml blob when I post a text message to blog (twtr.io/11WAqQBej00)
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rhiaro
... In the process of switching to Django
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I'm in the process of switching over to django from rails for my site (twtr.io/11WAuvPMdZb)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: also you get practical well-built libraries rather than hacked together crap (twtr.io/11WAxQ1S6dx)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I hope to open source my new version and let the hacky rails nastiness die (twtr.io/11WAzLwCj14)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I syndicate to twitter, and then use twitter to go to facebook (twtr.io/11WB2yboXrU)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: I'm getting webmentions back, but not displaying everything (twtr.io/11WB4SGqmQ0)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @tommorris: vim is a nicer writing environment than web browsers as browsers have only had 20 years to write one (twtr.io/11WBCv1QXvj)
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tantek
lol
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KevinMarks
getting sleepy
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seekr
join #perl
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seekr
oops
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tantek
what is perl?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "perl" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=perl&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436609167853
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tantek
(ouch)
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tantek
what are languages?
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Loqi
language may refer to human (AKA natural) languages or computer (often programming) languages https://indiewebcamp.com/languages
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KevinMarks
perl is short for Particularly Esoteric Regex Language and consists largely of punctuation.
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loqi.me
created /perl (+118) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436609167853 and dfn added by KevinMarks" (view diff)
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Loqi
ok
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KevinMarks
url?
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rhiaro
opensourcespecialist.co.uk Raphael
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I hope to open source my new version and let the hacky rails nastiness die (twtr.io/11WBUorKgwG)
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KevinMarks
bad cert?
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petermolnar
KevinMarks the company I work for has perl as main language for the business, and yes, I do cry sometimes when no one is looking
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I'm in the process of switching over to django from rails for my site (twtr.io/11WBWuu1GNQ)
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: one thing I did a while back is using twilio to send an xml blob when I post a text message to blog (twtr.io/11WBZ1ZanC0)
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seekr
Perl is good.
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I use OpenStreetMap for locations and Mozilla Persona to sign in (twtr.io/11WB__iRSg4)
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KevinMarks
(can't quite hear him)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Raphael: I'm Raphael and my site is https://opensourcespecialist.co.uk/ (twtr.io/11WBejXh2XU)
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seekr
I'm still trying to find a way to connect. :-\
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@JaneAllie_9294
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twtr.io/11WBhXybj14)
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@WillaCassandra_
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @tommorris: I've been building a 'places' section which is foursquare/tripadvisor on my own site (twtr.io/11WBhZY8QKC)
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tantek
rhiaro: if you can understand in person you should minute
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tantek
we can’t really understand the speaker on talky
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @lewisnyman: as I started wanting to do more- post images and so on, I found this more difficult (twtr.io/11WBmHSYDnj)
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb Giulia: I connect to github with webhooks so there is always a mirror available (twtr.io/11WBnNo0u2f)
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rhiaro
what is https
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Loqi
HTTPS is an abbreviation for Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure, a protocol for secure communication, supported by web servers (like Apache & nginx) and browsers https://indiewebcamp.com/HTTPS
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petermolnar
my fail2ban kicked in on ssh to my domain from the 68 Middle Street ip O.o
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petermolnar
either I'm doing something wrong or someone is sniffing around
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+80) "/* Press */ see more" (view diff)
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ben_thatmustbeme
okay, its not just me not being able to understand talky
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seekr
good morning, ben_thatmustbeme!
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ben_thatmustbeme
morning
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KevinMarks
lots of audience conversation makes it hard
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rhiaro
adactio: I use https, have no idea who the people verifying my site are
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Raphael: I'm running my own server and my site is based on Jekyll (twtr.io/11WC97yB_BC)
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rhiaro
petermolnar: trusted people, don't question that
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seekr
guess I don't feel so bad not being able to connect (yet, still trying) knowing that the audio is inaudible - hope they can work something out - maybe get a direct connection to the speaker's mic?
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ben_thatmustbeme
kevin marks, i just get crazy echo
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KevinMarks
who's next
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rhiaro
seekr: no mics
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rhiaro
Paul
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rhiaro
paulrobertlloyd.com
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KevinMarks
echo might just be you- headphones?
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seekr
ah, rhiaro
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rhiaro
... MoveableType for site
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KevinMarks
also Charle Stross uses moveable type
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petermolnar.eu
edited /Nginx (+514) "adding PFS dhparams" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... Working on a new Jekyll version, hosted on own site not github pages
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ben_thatmustbeme
was really bad on FF, its smooth on chrome
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ben_thatmustbeme
i can hear now
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I have been using moveable type but switched to jekyll hosted on my own site http://paulrobertlloyd.com (twtr.io/11WCN3s3ZL0)
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rhiaro
Not sure how many people can be connected on talky beta, anyone?
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petermolnar
( the video issues reminded me of this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=981444#p981444 )
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twtr.io/11WCUPCJLDx)
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petermolnar.eu
edited /Nginx (+1) "/* PFS (Perfect Forward Secrecy) */" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I'm happier using other people's things and joining them together than coding it all (twtr.io/11WCc8X4Q28)
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KevinMarks
(really feeling sleepy now - are there many left?)
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rhiaro
I can't read that URL
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rhiaro
@hotzenplotz I think
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rhiaro
KevinMarks: loads of people here, don't know how many want to demo
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rhiaro
Andrea Rota
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@javascriptd
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @adactio: you can use 3rd parties like webmention.io and http://webmention.herokuapp.com to embed mentions by javascript (twtr.io/11WCpH1nk8H)
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neuro`
Good morning campers.
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rhiaro
cool, 25 people in talkybeta room
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @hotzeplotz: my interest in indieweb comes from a long time ago (twtr.io/11WCsU1hSGY)
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rhiaro
as in, there can be, not there are
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twtr.io/11WCts_1p54)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twtr.io/11WCyq5hku8)
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petermolnar
url was http://mey.vn/ for @hotzeplotz
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @hotzeplotz: I have been waiting for something like the indieweb to happen (twtr.io/11WD1xnDVK0)
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@tvnweb
Full room for #IndieWebCamp Brighton. ~40 people. https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619815031992111104/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WD7CW0Wrj)
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ben_thatmustbeme
40 people, nice
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neuro`
Is there a live stream somewhere please?
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: I have been waiting for something like the indieweb to happen (twtr.io/11WD9Ur9x7C)
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ShaneHudson_
https://beta.talky.io/iwcbrighton
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neuro`
Thx ShaneHudson_
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ben_thatmustbeme
rhiaro: have you got some IWC stickrs to give out?
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rhiaro
ben_thatmustbeme: Oh, I left them in Edinburgh
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rhiaro
Didn't even think about that
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rhiaro
Paul from CozyCloud
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rhiaro
Uses Cozy for his own site: Photos, files
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petermolnar
question: should a write how to update a (freely hosted) dns entry for _any_ domain on digitalocean with an ip? what way hosting at home could actually be easy with any domain; in theory of course
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rhiaro
... Calendar
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rhiaro
... Sync'd with phone
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rhiaro
... Notes
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tantek
selfdogfooding++
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Loqi
selfdogfooding has 1 karma
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rhiaro
what is cozycloud
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "cozycloud" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=cozycloud&summary=prompted+by+rhiaro+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436610578419
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rhiaro
... Can import any data, eg. quantified self
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rhiaro
... Can also manage bank account from Cozy: Kresus
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neuro`
cozycloud++
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Loqi
cozycloud has 1 karma
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KevinMarks
audio just went all dalek
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Loqi
[bridgy] Gert-Jan Mes +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
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rhiaro
... There's also a market place for open source Cozy applications, nodejs
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rhiaro
... Developed micropub client inside Cozy, so he can publish pictures to Known (!!)
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KevinMarks
I'm going to sleep now
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neuro`
n8 KevinMarks
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rhiaro
... use to share with friends and family, either publicly or privately
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neuro`
thank you for the LT
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rhiaro
Great scribing KevinMarks++
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rhiaro
... Wants to use webmention in Cozy for sharing
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rhiaro
glennjones: transmat.io/glennjones
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rhiaro
glennjones.net
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rhiaro
... Has notes
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rhiaro
... Collects likes etc on notes
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rhiaro
... not using bridgy, using own tool called transmat, very similar to bridgy
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grantmorrison.net
edited /2015/Brighton (-176) "/* Participating */" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... So if I ever lose twitter, I have all data including conversations
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rhiaro
oooooh prior and post conversation looks good
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@kevinmarks
my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twtr.io/11WDyGJxucs)
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rhiaro
... Replies to existing tweet by copying URL into posting interface
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rhiaro
... Also have a browser plugin that injects a button into twitter
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rhiaro
glennjones++
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Loqi
glennjones has 7 karma
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tantek.com
edited /videos_about_the_indieweb (-6) "/* 2014 */ fix adactio link to point just to his video" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks
RT @tinokremer: #indieweb I'm new to #IndieWeb (2 weeks), my site (Known) is http://stream.tinokremer.nl/ and I love it. @kevinmarks (twtr.io/11WE1gmXc68)
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rhiaro
... transmat.io has a stream, with all post types or can choose between them
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rhiaro
... Quite interested in checkins interface at the moment
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rhiaro
... Demos transmat checkin UI
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rhiaro
... Does geolocation and brings a map. Also started collecting places/venues in database. UI tries to work out nearest venue.
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rhiaro
... Problem: often without wifi, or dodgy connection
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rhiaro
... Interface is too big for that
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rhiaro
... So been trying out nearthing.io. Uses webworkers
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rhiaro
... service workers
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rhiaro
... allows you to offline stuff
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rhiaro
... stores all locations inside browser itself
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ShaneHudson_
Ah very nice. That's what I'm wanting to do, use service workers so that there is more chance I will actually be able to POSSE
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@jrobertson
RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twtr.io/11WEK6vv1u8)
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ShaneHudson_
Has anyone else done anything with service workers yet?
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rhiaro
Benjamin Parry(?)
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rhiaro
benjamin.parry.is
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ben_thatmustbeme
peoplenamedbenjamin++ :P
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Loqi
peoplenamedbenjamin has 1 karma
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rhiaro
... Jekyll, hosted on github
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rhiaro
... Would like to get webmentions running
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rhiaro
... Also offlineoffroad.co.uk for mountain biking journal
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rhiaro
... logs rides and recipes
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rhiaro
... Also interested in publishing when not online. SMS, offline checkins etc
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rhiaro
Calum: was here last year
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ShaneHudson_
I think offline would be a good thing to discuss
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rhiaro
... Since then, I've done some stuff on my site: calumryan.com
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rhiaro
... Also Jekyll
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rhiaro
... Added microformats, recently POSSE to twitter
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ben_thatmustbeme
needs to check if offline checkins are working in mobilepub
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rhiaro
... *shows admin area*
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rhiaro
... Next thing to look at media, currently purely text
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ben_thatmustbeme
ShaneHudson_: i doubt i'll be around but tell them about mobilepub, it needs a lot of development, but it works in concept
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ShaneHudson_
what is mobilepub
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Loqi
MobilePub is a mobile app for posting text, links, photos, videos, and audio files to your website using micropub https://indiewebcamp.com/MobilePub
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ShaneHudson_
Oh nice, that sounds useful
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ben_thatmustbeme
i've done offline posting with it
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ben_thatmustbeme
its broken for offline media posts
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tantek
norm!
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rhiaro
Norm: marknormanfrancis.com
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rhiaro
... Have written my own website software about 17 times
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rhiaro
... More excited about code than words
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rhiaro
... Set myself a challenge this year of writing more words
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rhiaro
... Last time was in april..
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rhiaro
... Want to demonstrate PESOS
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rhiaro
... Started this in 2011
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ben_thatmustbeme
"more excited about writing the code than writing the words" I completely understand that
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rhiaro
... Website currently has coucdb behind it, pull things from APIs and dump json
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rhiaro
... Cron job that fetched them stoped working in 2011
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rhiaro
... "I'll fix that in a bit" 4 years ago
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rhiaro
... eurovisiondrinking.com
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@mal_disposto
RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twtr.io/11WF3kKtp54)
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rhiaro
... when you're watching eurovision, it tells you when to drink. Static site hosted on S3
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ShaneHudson_
That's a complicated drinking game! :D
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ben_thatmustbeme
really long looking URL
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rhiaro
... devfort-mocks.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
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ben_thatmustbeme
ah
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rhiaro
... Flask
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petermolnar.eu
edited /web_hosting (+1758) "Personal Clouds: using digital ocean as dns provider for home-hosted setups" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... Compiles locally, deploys to S3
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rhiaro
... Cheaper
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rhiaro
... You can have a database driven website, but if it doesn't need to be dynamic when people are looking at it you can run database locally and just push static html
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tantek
what is digital ocean?
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Loqi
DigitalOcean is a web hosting provider targeted towards developers and offers low cost cloud servers in data centers across the world https://indiewebcamp.com/digital_ocean
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rhiaro
IWC Bingo: 'there's a page on the wiki for that'
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petermolnar
...also providing free dns hosting, not advertised too much
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rhiaro
Johannes: johannesdachsel.com
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rhiaro
... Notes and Articles
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ben_thatmustbeme
rhiaro: when does that bingo app get made?
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rhiaro
... OwnYourGram, micropub
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rhiaro
... POSSE
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rhiaro
... to twitter
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rhiaro
... Wrote a posting interface to make it easier to edit for twitter
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rhiaro
... Would like to switch to https
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petermolnar
( every single time I see POSSE I always hear H.P. Baxxter's voice from Scooter screaming 'Welcome POSSE' from their Back in the U.K. song )
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@LilyLionheart
Very excited about the next two days @ #indiewebcamp in the fantastic @clearleft house. Thanks for organizing @adactio & @Lottejackson! (twtr.io/11WFj_Mxo9b)
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tantek.com
edited /2014-review (+739) "/* Talks */ pick a few to highlight representative for the year" (view diff)
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rhiaro
... ProcessWire CMS
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rhiaro
Charlotte: lottejackson.com
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rhiaro
... Just wanted to start writing
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rhiaro
... KraftCMS (?)
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rhiaro
... Post articles and links
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rhiaro
... This weekend, want to look at webmentions, microformats
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rhiaro
... I also post a lot on twitter and flickr, would like to POSSE
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rhiaro
... Have seen one plugin for webmentions
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rhiaro
... Craft
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rhiaro
s/Kraft/Craft
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seekr
sprry, rhiaro - I missed your question 1.5 hours ago, messing with various things - you wrote: "Jul 11 05:22:02 <rhiaro> seekr: what's not working specifically. Site not
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seekr
loading, or just no video/audio?" My answer is that Firefoxputs up a little widgety thing and says my mic is active, but does nothing else - remember, I have a broken camera - Chromium does nothing at all - trying various forms of Windoze now
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rhiaro
seekr: hm, it should work without camera
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rhiaro
adactio: schedule time! Then go for lunch
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seekr
I'll continue to fiddle with it rhiaro
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ShaneHudson_
I'm working on getting micropub working. So close
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ben_thatmustbeme
can we see the scheduling / grid
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ben_thatmustbeme
just seeing the same site up on screen right nwo
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ben_thatmustbeme
now*
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ShaneHudson_
Is Charlotte on here? If she is using Craft, a few of my plugins may help.
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@JaneAllie_9294
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twtr.io/11WHC4FoqzC)
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@WillaCassandra_
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @paulrobertlloyd: I use webmention.io for my site, and also post to github from my nice UI (twtr.io/11WHC5suE2f)
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tantek
I think I’ve got nearly all the sections of https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review ready to be blogged except one
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tantek
if anyone would like to help out by summarizing 2014 site deaths - could you use your help here: https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-review#Site_Deaths_2014
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seekr
what happened to this channel? it's been dead for some time, it seems - is Bright on on a lunch break or what?
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seekr
*Brighton
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ben_thatmustbeme
yes
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ben_thatmustbeme
they are
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seekr
ah
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seekr
I still can't get talky to work :(
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ben_thatmustbeme
weird
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ben_thatmustbeme
something disabled maybe
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ben_thatmustbeme
or proxy issues
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ben_thatmustbeme
or firewall
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seekr
I'm running an oldish version of Linux Mint (v 14, Nadia), but my Firefox is relatively current
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ShaneHudson_
Talky is working for me but video feed is off
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seekr
There's no firewall that I know of - just put in a new router - should check, though
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ben_thatmustbeme
ShaneHudson_: therem something to look at
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seekr
do certain ports have to be open and/or forwarded?
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ben_thatmustbeme
no
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ShaneHudson_
ben_thatmustbemeHaha aww :)
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seekr
hmmm
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ben_thatmustbeme
ShaneHudson_: and her sister
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@andybudd
RT @Lottejackson: #IndieWebCamp Brighton has started! https://twitter.com/Lottejackson/status/619797970914013184/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WKxw0Hm5s)
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ShaneHudson_
Ugh the one thing I don't like about Craft is the plugin routing. Takes me forever to work out
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ben_thatmustbeme
ShaneHudson_: there is Charlotte's twitter handle if you wanted to tweet to her about the plugins you mentioned
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ShaneHudson_
Ah yeah cheers
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@ShaneHudson
@Lottejackson I have a few very unstable Craft plugins for POSSE, webmention and micropub if you're interested? (twtr.io/11WLHVMoxfG)
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Loqi
[bridgy] Bas van der Veeken +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
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ben_thatmustbeme
seekr what browser?
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seekr
Firefox, ben_thatmustbeme
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seekr
I tried Chromium also.
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ben_thatmustbeme
what happens?
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seekr
nothing happens with Chromium - just have a blank browser window
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ben_thatmustbeme
and in FF?
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seekr
in FF, a little widgety thing launches, asks for permission to use the mic, which I give it - and then there no further activity
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ben_thatmustbeme
weird. so it sounds like its not getting mic/vid control
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ben_thatmustbeme
if i try to open talky in two dif browsers thats what i get
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seekr
possibly
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ben_thatmustbeme
becasue the second one can never get access to the cam/audio
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seekr
ah - well, I have skype running - wonder if it's interfering
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ben_thatmustbeme
possibly
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seekr
I'll shut it down to see if it makes a difference.
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seekr
The Windoze route failed - nearly maxes out the cpu
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seekr
(under vbox)
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ben_thatmustbeme
ahhh this is under vbox
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seekr
well, only the windoze attempt was
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ben_thatmustbeme
linux?
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seekr
that's after both ff & chromium failed under Linux itself
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ben_thatmustbeme
ahh
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ben_thatmustbeme
hmmmm
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seekr
gonna shut down vbox & skype and try again
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ben_thatmustbeme
but the cam / audio was working in skype
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ben_thatmustbeme
weird
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ben_thatmustbeme
make sure its trying to get access to the correct camera?
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seekr
there's only one - built in (lappie), which got broken when I spilled tea on the kb :)
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seekr
also fried the circuitry for the kb itself and he monitor - I use it with external devices
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@IndieWebCampUK
RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twtr.io/11WMYb_RTtb)
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seekr
thanks, KevinMarks!
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seekr
when do sessions resume?
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ben_thatmustbeme
probably quite soon
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seekr
trying talky in ff - vbox & skype now gone
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seekr
nothing happening - just the little widgety thing is present
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seekr
maybe it's trying to open the camera and fails - no error msgs, tho
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ben_thatmustbeme
:/
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ben_thatmustbeme
nothing in dmesg?
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seekr
will check...
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rhiaro
55 mins
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rhiaro
Long lunch in the sun..
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rhiaro
1400 bst
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seekr
ah - my experience with England is that the sun generally hides behind clouds - spent a summer there - very bleak most of the time
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ShaneHudson_
It is a really nice day, I went and sat in the garden for a little while :) sooo bright
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seekr
ah - good
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seekr
nice!
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ben_thatmustbeme
yeah, its just failing to get the cam i'm sure
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ShaneHudson_
Should probably grab some food though, brb while I make a bacon sarny :)
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seekr
ben_thatmustbeme: nothing in dmesg for two whole days!
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@mshook
RT @kevinmarks: my notes from the opening seesion of #indiewebcamp UK on my site: http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampUK20150711.html via http://www.noterlive.com/ (twtr.io/11WNF6vdTV4)
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seekr
ben_thatmustbeme: are you using Firefox with talky?
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ben_thatmustbeme
i had it working, closed it for chrome as FF was choppy for me
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seekr
just wondering whether the widget-thing should have more than the FF logo and mic icon
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seekr
maybe it also generally has a camera icon?
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seekr
if so, it might indicate that it's non-forgiving of a broken camera
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seekr
Is there any audio or audio/video recording going on in Brighton for later archiving?
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ben_thatmustbeme
i think so
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ben_thatmustbeme
not sure, i don't think so
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seekr
you think there should be a camera icon as part of the widget?
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ben_thatmustbeme
i get the ff logo, cam, and mic (orange bg on the latter two)
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ben_thatmustbeme
and an orange cam in the address bar
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seekr
ah - that's gotta be it, then!
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seekr
I see only the FF logo and a while mic on an orange background
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seekr
It's prolly hanging trying to open the camera.
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ben_thatmustbeme
i would guess so
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@JaneAllie_9294
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twtr.io/11WNhLLbSXU)
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@WillaCassandra_
RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @hotzeplotz: other universities were using their own slos in a clunky way - why not let them use their own sites? (twtr.io/11WNhNRr3xs)
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seekr
too bad it's not configurable to ignore a missing or broken camera
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rhiaro
I dunno what the state of streaming will be after lunch btw
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rhiaro
Depends on people in sessions and if there are spare laptops
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seekr
Is there an essay somewhere that explains why silos as primary repositories are a bad thing? I'm assuming it's cos someone else owns the data, but perhaps my assumption is incorrect.
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rhiaro
What is why
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Loqi
"You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world [wide web]." — Morpheus, The Matrix
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seekr
ah
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rhiaro
Etc
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seekr
thanks, rhiaro
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ShaneHudson_
rhiaro: There will be docs for each session though right?
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seekr
have the snowden revelations caused more people to become interested in such things, do you think? It's sounding to me as if people are willing to feel stuff from their sites to silos, but maybe I'm wrong. If I'm not, doesn't it mean that privacy and/or anonymity are lost anyway? Sorry to be such a dumb newbie - just feelin' my way 'round here. :)
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seekr
*to feed stuff
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rhiaro
There are many reasons in the community
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rhiaro
People are different
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seekr
such have I discovered :)
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ShaneHudson_
For me it was a nice way to give new life to my site
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seekr
wouldn't one want to avoid silos altogether if one is security conscious - maybe doing countercultural political stuff and wanting to maintain anonymity?
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seekr
so the syndication bit is optional, I s'pose
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ShaneHudson_
On Quill, it is using the wrong micropub endpoint despite it being in the HEAD of my site? Any ideas?
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ShaneHudson_
*the right one being in the HEAD
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ben_thatmustbeme
huh?
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ben_thatmustbeme
what URL are you logging in with?
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ShaneHudson_
shanehudson.net
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ShaneHudson_
Ah there we go
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ShaneHudson_
just had to relogin
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ben_thatmustbeme
oh okay
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tommorris
Brightonians have returned from lunch.
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ShaneHudson_
\o/
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david.shanske.com
edited /User:David.shanske.com (-145) "/* Itches Scratched */" (view diff)
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rhiaro
http://rhiaro.co.uk/photos/1507iwcbrighton/day1sessions.jpg
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GWG
tommorris: What about Location and Check-in?
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tommorris
GWG: well, trying to explore ideas and solutions
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+280) "/* Schedule */" (view diff)
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GWG
tommorris: I've been trying to do that myself. Curious to see what you come up with
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+60) "/* Schedule */" (view diff)
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rhiaro.co.uk
edited /2015/Brighton (+495) "/* Schedule */" (view diff)
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rhiaro
I added links to empty etherpads on the schedule ^ anyone here who's paying attention, make notes on your session :)
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ShaneHudson_
what is indieweb.txt
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "indieweb.txt" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=indieweb.txt&summary=prompted+by+ShaneHudson_+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436620327687
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rhiaro
ShaneHudson_: an idea someone had earlier, not sure
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petermolnar.eu
edited /email-hosting (+756) (view diff)
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tommorris
just floated the idea of micropub-backfill
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tommorris
if you are doing PESOS, you could have an intermediary service that grabs all the *stuff* and PESOSes it to your own site
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petermolnar.eu
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@tvnweb
Talking through the 'checklist' of #IndieWeb technologies http://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619858175374790656/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WUXvEiHQG)
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@tvnweb
Another group is talking about PESOS (Publish Elsewhere Syndicate on you Own Site) techniques #IndieWebCamp Brighton https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619858662585159680/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WUhMo6r1L)
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@rhiaro
@tvnweb Be cool if you could encourage people to take notes - links to etherpads on schedule https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule :) (twtr.io/11WV8v6CPPj)
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@IndieWebCampUK
Note taking for sessions in etherpads linked on the schedule: http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule (twtr.io/11WVJBwc83E)
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@rhiaro
RT @IndieWebCampUK: Note taking for sessions in etherpads linked on the schedule: http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton#Schedule (twtr.io/11WWC4mf6YY)
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petermolnar.eu
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@alicenwondrlnd
How 'indie' are you? In session on IndieMark - defining a set of metrics for measuring the #indieweb-ness of a site http://indiewebcamp.com/indiemark (twtr.io/11WWHioiTW8)
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@andybudd
@alicenwondrlnd sounds like you've joined a cult / @adactio #indieweb (twtr.io/11WWXVVj3ZL)
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petermolnar.eu
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ShaneHudson_
Wooo :D https://shanehudson.net/2015/07/11/1347
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ShaneHudson_
Not perfect but micropub just published a note for me
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rhiaro.co.uk
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shanehudson.net
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ben_thatmustbeme
ShaneHudson++ nice!
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Loqi
ShaneHudson has 15 karma
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ShaneHudson_
I will also push the code to github
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ben_thatmustbeme
Yay. What is your site in?
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ShaneHudson_
Craft
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stream.tinokremer.nl
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stream.tinokremer.nl
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ben_thatmustbeme
Oh yeah you said that
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ShaneHudson_
https://github.com/ShaneHudson/Micropub_Craft
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shanehudson.net
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Loqi
[bridgy] jamal lashley +1ed a post http://indiewebcamp.com/posse (https://plus.google.com/+TinoKremer/posts/S7JzJGFxUp7)
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ShaneHudson_
Won't add geolocation support yet to plugin since that would require my specific setup... but Quill is now adding geo nicely to my posts :)
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shanehudson.net
edited /Micropub (+11) "/* Shane Hudson */" (view diff)
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ShaneHudson_
Who controls the indie auth site? Think to improve indieweb experience on mobile, that should be responsive
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LukasRos
ShaneHudson_: You mean indieauth.com? That site was made by aaronpk.
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ShaneHudson_
Ah ok thought it might have been :) I actually mean the /auth page but yes
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@tinokremer
I just moved my Tumblr posts to my own @withknown site, feels good! #indieweb (twtr.io/11WaJUNXvaU)
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ShaneHudson_
Are there any android devs here?
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@tinokremer
I just moved my Tumblr posts to my own @withknown site and deleted my Tumblr account, feels good! #indieweb (twtr.io/11WaPWP9H_x)
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LukasRos
I do have a little bit of Android experience.
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LukasRos
Unless you mean by „here“ someone at the IWC because I’m not there.
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ShaneHudson_
Nor am I :)
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ShaneHudson_
I am wondering how easy it is to create an app that will appear in the share menu on twitter. So that I can click "Reply on own site" and it will either handle micropub locally or hook into Quill or something on the web
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ShaneHudson_
So that I can use Twitter app as my reader like I already do but reply via POSSE. Currently it is so much easier to use the twitter app so I do
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LukasRos
Haven’t done this but shouldn’t be too difficult, because you just need to know which Intent the app uses for sharing and then handle that Intent.
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LukasRos
I think it should be an intent filter for android.intent.action.SEND.
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LukasRos
Specified in the manifest. And then you need to parse the content of the Intent and either pass it to a URL in the browser or do something in the app.
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ShaneHudson_
Oh of course, it can be sent in the URL... hmm that makes it quite nice.
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ShaneHudson_
Will have a play :) If I can work out how to make an app haha Thanks :)
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LukasRos
That would be great.
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tommorris
following discussion at IWC Brighton, this now exists: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-experimental-properties
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ShaneHudson_
Ah nice :)
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ShaneHudson_
"For when we eventually build the open web dating service." I actually laughed out loud :D
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kylewm
ShaneHudson_: here's a possible solution for your android/twitter question https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android
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ShaneHudson_
kylewm: Oh yes, I think I've seen that before. Will give it another try thanks :)
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ShaneHudson_
Though might make an app anyway, just to learn how :)
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kylewm
I'll use your app if you do make it :)
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ShaneHudson_
Ah that's why I don't use it... it is disgusting xD
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ShaneHudson_
I'm going to go for a little walk then will make a start on it :)
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Loqi
[bridgy] Joschi Kuphal 吉 favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/glennjones/status/619783530554490881)
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Loqi
[bridgy] Al Power replied '@glennjones @indiewebcamp sad to be missing it (at a wedding!) - have fun all #IndieWebCamp' to a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/alpower/status/619788327978405889)
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Loqi
[bridgy] Frederic Marx favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/glennjones/status/619783530554490881)
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@calum_ryan
#indiewebcamp live blog http://calumryan.com/blog/indiewebcamp1/ (bear with me catching up!) (twtr.io/11WdqEYJe0G)
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@LukasRosenstock
Just blogged: "Phone Numbers and the IndieWeb" - https://lukasrosenstock.net/post/60002190 (twtr.io/11WeyGv88jo)
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LukasRos
Actually not „just“, that post is a bit older, just updated POSSE to use Zapier.
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jgarber
Hello, IndieWebCampers! Has anyone combined Micropub with Rails? Specifically, ActiveRecord? ActiveRecord expects data (params) to be structured in a particular way so my first guess is that an app would need something between a Micropub endpoint and ActiveRecord, but wanted to float the question out there in case anyone else has tackled this.
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rhiaro
jgarber: I dunno about Rails, but your micropub endpoint can do whatever you want
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rhiaro
Translate/store the submitted data however you like
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jgarber
rhiaro: Ah, right, good point. Perhaps I was over-thinking the entire thing.
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bret
jgarber: i know some people have been doing some ruby work
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bret
not sure if they were using rails
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bret
https://github.com/homesteading
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bret
not sure how complete this is https://github.com/homesteading/micropub-server-rails
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jgarber
bret: I saw that just now. Documentation is pretty lacking, unfortunately. :-/
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rhiaro
bret: there are a couple of people at IWC Brighton interested in gitpub (that's yours, right?)
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bret
rhiaro: yeah...... that needs work
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bret
think of it as a proof of concept! hope to have it rewritten this weekend
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rhiaro
Probably put that in the readme if it's not already!
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bret
hehe yeah i need to set better expectations
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rhiaro
Oh man, do I have to stay up all night to watch IWC PDX?
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rhiaro
I feel like I do.
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snarfed
happy IWC all!
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snarfed
tommorris: re pesos backfill, just fyi, check out https://github.com/snarfed/freedom
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rhiaro
snarfed++
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Loqi
snarfed has 111 karma
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snarfed
ShaneHudson_: re indieweb replies etc on android, check out https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android
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snarfed
also https://github.com/snarfed/open-in-app
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snarfed
oh nm kylewm beat me to it
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rhiaro
Anyone at IWC Brighton have dinner plans?
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@awoods
RT @t: great talk by @barryf on “Why We Need The IndieWeb” https://vimeo.com/125167234 with why, how to, markup, code etc. (ttk.me t4aj1) (twtr.io/11WjNRDfozj)
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: Good morning IWC! I'm hoping to participate remotely this weekend too. Is there a stream or webcam to load, or a hangout to join?
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: or a <http://talky.io|talky.io>
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bret
hi shaunguice
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bret
streams will be comin once the sessions start
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: cool. thanks
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gRegor-phone
On our way. Will we need to be buzzed in again?
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rhiaro
IWC Brighton will tune into pdx stream from the pub when it's up
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rhiaro
Somebody ping me when it is
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bret
will do!
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tommorris
is located in pub.
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@benjaminparry
Well that was one very exciting day of discussions and demos of #IndieWeb technologies! Let's see how much can be implemented tomorrow. (twtr.io/11WmPrqyh80)
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rhiaro
tommorris we should be really social and talk over irc
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tommorris
Telepresence has found its compelling use case: getting drunk with geeks.
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ShaneHudson_
Finally, Android Studio has done its update
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GWG
Will be back after lunch to join in for a bit
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KevinMarks
heh, I want the opposite of https://github.com/snarfed/open-in-app
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Loqi
gives KevinMarks the opposite of https
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KevinMarks
https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/606130862824898560
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@kevinmarks
@tcarmody @kissane links to the Facebook app take 8 seconds to load if you're on the web (twtr.io/108jnyKT7Nf)
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KevinMarks
can someone at indiewebcamp PDX do the noterlive scribing?
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rhiaro
Live stream??
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rhiaro
really wants to stream in the pub
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snarfed
KevinMarks: lol i hear you
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snarfed
should be doable!
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seekr
will the live stream from portland also use talky? seems I'm unable to connect to talky streams, due most likely to my non-functional camera, which seems to be needed for talky to work
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@kevinmarks
RT @tinokremer: @kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twtr.io/11WpWaCaHQG)
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rhiaro
is concerned about welfare of Portland, it's too quiet
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KevinMarks_
They may be overcome by vegan donuts
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seekr
don
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seekr
oops - don't they start at 10:30 pdt, which is under 20 mins from now?
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rhiaro
is insanely jealous of anyone with vegan donuts
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rhiaro
Oh, I thought it was 10
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rhiaro
calms down
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seekr
rhiaro: according to the schedule at http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule , they should be starting about now
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@tvnweb
Post #IndieWebCamp drinks on the beach https://twitter.com/tvnweb/status/619920421224345600/photo/1 (twtr.io/11Wqm3vChf0)
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@pypi_updates
django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twtr.io/11Wr0RkYdbo)
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@Bradamante
just arrived @indiewebcamp, and already we're talking docs! :D #writethedocs (twtr.io/11Wr0W4kjbH)
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bret
PDX is sstarting out
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seekr
will there be any sort of non-talky stream available?
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@TapestryMaker
Good turnout at #indiewebcamp in Portland -- @aaronpk's kicking things off (twtr.io/11WrNc184uQ)
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bret
seekr: i could set up a youtube stream
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seekr
yeah!! would be wond'rous, bret! thanks muchly!!! :)
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: I'd like that.
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tantek
good morning from Portland!
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seekr
mornin', tantek
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KevinMarks_
. Morning Tantek
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@BillSeitz
RT @tinokremer: @kevinmarks instead I use Known, easy setup and fully #indieweb compliant (twtr.io/11WrVK2ubNQ)
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KevinMarks_
Can someone there do noterlive.com scribing?
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tantek
aren’t we streaming?
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tantek
aaronpk introduces IndieWebCamp 2015!
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tantek
the 5th annual main IndieWebCamp
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tantek
aaronpk reviewed /principles
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seekr
tantek: bret has offered to do a uToob stream
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tantek
and gave a quick overview of /code-of-conduct as well
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tantek
aaronpk is now showing / explaining the schedule for the next two days. /2015/Schedule
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tantek
thanking the sponsors! ESRI for the space, nlnet, Bridgy, and Mozilla for food and other expenses
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seekr
still no sessions listed on schedule
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rhiaro
seekr: no sessions until after intro
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tantek
seekr - we’re not at session proposing yet
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seekr
oh - sorry
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rhiaro
wants stream tho...
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seekr
bret's working on it he sez, rhiaro
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bret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCtLhopfDY
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@JvCode
RT @pypi_updates: django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twtr.io/11WrqmRkEf0)
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seekr
ah - great - thanks, bret!
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bret
seekr: working?
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: bret: working. audio a bit trippy but definitely better than nothing!
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benwerd
Audio is a little funky, but hooray!
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Loqi
benwerd: snarfed left you a message on 7/10 at 4:02pm: feel better! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436569320504
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Loqi
benwerd: KevinMarks left you a message on 7/10 at 5:28pm: I hope you feel better soon http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436574511234
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bret
ack, sorry!
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Loqi
benwerd: tantek left you a message on 7/10 at 5:35pm: rest-up and feel better. Sorry to miss you but take care of yourself and we’ll hack online! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436574949684
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benwerd
Aw, thanks snarfed and tantek. I did the right thing (still under the weather), but I'm watching.
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rhiaro
thanks bret!
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bret
what is wrong with audio?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "wrong with audio" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=wrong+with+audio&summary=prompted+by+bret+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-11%2Fline%2F1436636484757
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seekr
bret - still setting up - will know in a moment
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tommorris
Watching IWC in pub. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/81sawnIG/IMG_2389.JPG
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bret
:D
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rhiaro
Shame it's not a two way stream
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bret
rhiaro: we can set up a talky later for the sessions
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bret
or add you to the hangout?
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rhiaro
It's okay, it's tooloud for us to hear here
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rhiaro
And I don't know where I'll be later
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rhiaro
wifi etc
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bret
kk
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rhiaro
It was nice to briefly connect the two events though :)
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KevinMarks_
Attending Brighton and watching g portland in the pub looks better than staying up until 4 watching Brighton then attending portland
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rhiaro
:)
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rhiaro
might stay up all night to watch portland
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seekr
bret: video is fine, but audio is very inaudible :(
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bret
is that better?
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seekr
not really
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bret
hrmm
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seekr
can't understand what she's saying
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seekr
ah - better now!
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bret
aaronpk: do we have a speaker phone?
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tantek
thanks for the audio check seekr!
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aaronpk
Yeah
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tantek
anyone taking notes on demos?
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bret
im streaming it
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benwerd
This is awesome
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bret
aaronpk: usb? can I grab it?
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tantek
I demo’d my indie RSVP support, and aaronpk’s indie event support. And also my <style scoped> support for custom post styles.
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aaronpk
The other camera is http://beta.talky.io/indiewebcamp
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tantek
LIly is now demoing her site, she takes photos of everything she buys as part of a “buy focal” project
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tantek
she uses Instagrator pro to PESOS Instagram posts to her site
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bret
ohh ok
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@benwerd
If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twtr.io/11WsmvW9uuw)
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@dangillmor
RT @benwerd: If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twtr.io/11WspXWyAZb)
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tantek
problem with using Instagram as the client, they’re owned by Facebook, and their place/venue database is very bad
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tantek
demos purchasing a coffee cup for 2¢ and taking a photo of it with Instagram and it automatically getting posted to her personal site
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tantek
she can also show you a list of things by type
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tantek
e.g. all burritos she’s eaten
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seekr
I'm able to connect to the YT stream from my own machine, but am getting an SSL certificate error on another machine - don't know how to get arround it - http:// auto-forwards to the https:// URL
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@theguice
RT @benwerd: If you're missing #indiewebcamp, people are demoing their projects on the stream right now: https://www.youtube.com/ (twtr.io/11Wt0AMapUY)
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rhiaro
CAn you post people's URLs as part of notes?
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tantek
each post shows map of where purchase happened
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seekr
Secure Connection Failed
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seekr
An error occurred during a connection to www.youtube.com. Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature)
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tantek
buyfocal.anomalily.com
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tantek
Jeena is next
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tantek
everything is on his website and written by him
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tantek
when he travels around the world he almost never has his real camera
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tantek
but still wants to post photos on his website and not on facebook
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tantek
Jeena’s site is jeena.net
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benwerd
bret: audio funkiness is back - still audible though
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bret
ok ill try agian
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tantek
https://jeenat.net
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tantek
uses Firefox on Android
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tantek
when he logs into his site
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tantek
on his mobile device
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tantek
he can choose file
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tantek
and then choose camera option
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tantek
he’s taking a photo of the main room @IndieWebCamp
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@artwisanggeni
#python django-webmention 0.0.2: A pluggable implementation of webmention for Django projects. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twtr.io/11WtD8LP6f1)
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tantek
types a description into his posting UI on his mobile device
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tantek
logs into his site on the laptop
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tantek
shows posting UI on laptop
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tantek
just to show the UI on the screen for everyone to see
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tantek
used to POSSE to Twitter and Facebook with his own code
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benwerd
bret: perfect now. thanks!
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tantek
but Facebook keeps changing their API so he gave up on that
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tantek
and just uses Bridgy to POSSE to Facebook
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tantek
POSSEing to Twitter includes the photo!
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bret
benwerd: we'll get a better mic by the end of lunch, maybe sooner
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tantek
shows jeena.net/photos (!!)
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tantek
awesome grid of thumbnails
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@jeena
#indiewebcamp live demo (https://jeena.net/photos/156) https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WtVEEbREf)
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bret
technical troubles
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tantek
on hover on a thumbnail it shows the text description for the photo
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aaronpk
Bret: my Logitech camera has a pretty good mic, we could try that. I think talky crashed on the other laptop
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tantek
result of his post: https://jeena.net/photos/156
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bret
aaronpk: you have one i can grab
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: fyi, the talky stream sounds good.
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bret
not sure why the mic on mine is so bad
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@jgraham909
RT @jeena: #indiewebcamp live demo (https://jeena.net/photos/156) https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880/photo/1 (twtr.io/11Wtdz16kpt)
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tantek
and possed to twitter: https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880
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@jeena
#indiewebcamp live demo (https://jeena.net/photos/156) https://twitter.com/jeena/status/619928034179706880/photo/1 (twtr.io/11WtVEEbREf)
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tantek
heh yeah that ^^^
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tantek
how did the RT get in here before the original!?!? Loqi?
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bret
audio improved benwerd ?
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benwerd
bret Yeah - a little background feedback, but very listenable
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aaronpk
There's a really loud fan in here
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bret
there is a loud fan in the room
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tantek
POSSE photo to Twitter shows an example of http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter#POSSE_note_with_photos_to_Twitter
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benwerd
aha!
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tantek
next up
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tantek
bret - can you take notes?
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bret
sure
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bret
was hesitant before because I was using the mic on the laptop
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tantek
charlesreid1.com
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tantek
redirects to a static IP
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tantek
uses MediaWiki
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tantek
(ok bret go for it) :)
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bret
you essentially get markdown text
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bret
(media wiki syntax)
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tantek.com
edited /Twitter (+178) "/* POSSE note with photos to Twitter */ IndieWeb community members doing this: Jeena!" (view diff)
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bret
lets you use media wiki templates
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bret
everywhere you drop in the template on another page, the template contents get inserted
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bret
the sidebar templates on wikipedia are templates (for example)
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bret
you can copy and paste wikipedia templates into your own wiki
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bret
lets you build off existing template work, and save time
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bret
demoing a booklist template
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bret
includes scans of written notes in a book
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@rhiaro
Yo dawg I heard you like #indiewebcamp http://rhiaro.co.uk/2015/07/yo-dawg-heard (twtr.io/11WuLyfYKuf)
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aaronpk
Haha rhiaro are you watching PDX!
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rhiaro
aaronpk: of course!
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rhiaro
Can't hear it, but video stream plus notes in here is good :)
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rhiaro
36 hours solid of Indiewebcamp is healthy right?
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bret
rhiaro: we improved the audio i think
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bret
rhiaro: lol1
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bret
rhiaro++
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rhiaro
bret: pub is too loud
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Loqi
rhiaro has 120 karma
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rhiaro
since KevinMarks and tantek stayed up late watching Brighton,it's only fair
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bret
oh heh cant help with that
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tantek
likes Jeena’s indie photo post POSSEd to Twitter :)
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bret
Next up is John!
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bret
demoing tapestry maker
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bret
writen in node
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tantek
thetapestries.net
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bret
is a space for a community of people
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bret
demoing indiemetachat
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aaronpk
bret: I'll dig up my USB table mic tomorrow
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bret
aaronpk: i have one too i can grab
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aaronpk
Let's both bring them in case one of us forgets ;-)
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bret
indieweb focuses on the individual
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tantek
haha liking Jeena’s photo exposed a CSS hole in my main stylesheet
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tantek
(check out my home page if you want to see it before I fix it ;) )
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bret
spaces for communities compliment individual sites
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bret
not everyone wants a public profile
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bret
how do we have areas where we can have private discussions?
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bret
demoing a social tarro (sp?) reading
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bret
a place for discussing tarro readings as a community
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gRegorLove
Hello from IWC Portland! o/
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Loqi
gRegorLove: KartikPrabhu left you a message on 7/10 at 4:17pm: about changing permalinks I added some stuff I ran into here: https://indiewebcamp.com/permalink#Changing_Permalinks_to_posts http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10/line/1436570232549
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tantek
“Everybody I talk to is ready to be done with Facebook"
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bret
there is still a lot of work to make indieweb accessable to non technical people
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tantek
“They talk about their time on Facebook like junk food. You do a lot of stuff and you don’t feel good afterwards.”
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tantek
(so quotable!)
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KevinMarks
tarot, bret
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bret
lol thats great
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bret
KevinMarks++
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Loqi
KevinMarks has 130 karma
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bret
spellcheck--
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Loqi
spellcheck has -2 karma
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bret
people just want to have a good time and ejoy themselves
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bret
(its true it doesn't take much to put together a fun online community)
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benwerd
I love love love that quote
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bret
adding audio to a community chat room
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bret
gRegorLove: now demoing!
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benwerd
Jon is brilliant. Applause from over here
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tantek
(plays high pace EDM from a chat channel)
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tantek
next up gRegor!
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tantek
gregorlove.com/notes/
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tantek
posting notes to his site for about a year
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tantek
POSSEing to Twitter
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tantek
using Bridgy
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tantek
shows recent post “Solution or go home” in reply to kylewm
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bret
Emma demoing up next
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barnabywalters
that was very loud applause
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Loqi
barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 3 days ago: since you do things with music/audio on the indieweb, consider submitting a speaking proposal for SF Music Tech Summit 2015: https://sfmusictech.wufoo.com/forms/r1jkqagx100z417/ http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-10/line/1433960067012
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tantek
notenoughneon.com
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tantek
migrating to AWS
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tantek
hosted on S3, learning node.js
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tantek
demos chat.notenoughneon.com
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gRegorLove
Re: Jon's demo: http://oonce-oonce.com/
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bret
lol
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benwerd
"Would anybody like to use SMS to post to their website?" Seems very out of date?
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waterpigs.co.uk
edited /2015 (+103) "/* IndieWebCamp 2015 */ added youtube livestream link" (view diff)
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gRegorLove
Best domain name here: yourmom.io demoing now
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aaronpk
SMS Is often the only channel available when traveling or in remote areas with low cell coverage
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aaronpk
Also quite possibly the easiest interface for posting photos
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tantek
(bret please log this story!)
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gRegorLove
"this project is so easy your mom could use it"
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bret
people were tweeting about projects/software being so easy your mom could run it
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tantek
at one HWC meetup she bought her domain
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tantek
at the next HWC she got hosting and got WordPress setup
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tantek
Jeena asks - what was it that made you come to Homebrew Website Club?
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tantek
and ask?
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bret
Jennifer came to HWC because she wanted to learn from people who already had websites
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tantek
“There’s only one way to learn, and that’s to ask people who know and do stuff”
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bret
(mee to!)
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bret
"all it takes is wanting to do it to make it happen"
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bret
the indieweb plugins have been really helpful
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gRegorLove
aaronpk demonstrating feedback
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gRegorLove
of the audio kind
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benwerd
"Feedback is a gift, but not a demand for change"
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tantek
aaronpk is demoing now
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tantek
using talky on a mobile device to show his Pebble watch
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tantek
to show posting from his food app
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tantek
(aside: fixed my markup - style was fine - reload tantek.com if you had it open before)
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tantek
has a coffee
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tantek
pushes one button and it posts
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tantek
literally an example of a one-button posting UI
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tantek
his food variety is relatively low, so turns out most of the time its already on the list on his watch
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tantek
it uses micropub to post to his website
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tantek
if you can install a micropub plugin on Wordpress, or support micropub on your server, you can use this watch micropub client to post to your site too!
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GWG
Did someone say WordPress?
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GWG
Perfect timing for my return
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JonPincus
GWG we're talking about a session on Wordpress and Indieweb this afternoon (Pacifc Coast time), are there times that are better or worse for you?
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gRegorLove
GWG: You'll want to connect with anomalilly this weekend. She's going to be working on her WordPress site and wants to streamline the setup process. I know you've talked about that before.
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gRegorLove
I mentioned to her she should talk to you
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GWG
I'm free from now on. I can go get my camera and jump in.
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GWG
I think I have something in 7 hours or so to do, but other than that.
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tantek
bret is demoing now
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tantek
his 3rd indiewebcamp
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tantek
he’s been focusing on static hosting
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tantek
looking at this thing call IPFS
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tantek
interplanetaryfilesystem
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@benwerd
Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twtr.io/11WxDYdSnFC)
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Loqi
[mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
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Loqi
[mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmentions (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
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Loqi
[mention] Ben Werdmüller posted 'Two years of being on the #indieweb 2 min read For the last ...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb)
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tantek
here comes a mention flood!
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GWG
I'd better head down into the cave, where I can get the live stream up
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bret
pi.bret.io:8080/ipfs/QmdY53gvcuKQgyRQbg1n9LJMBJvcdvpjdGHuMP53LTu3kF
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JonPincus
ok we'll figure out the logistics here to get that session streamed
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tantek
great post benwerd!
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benwerd
👍
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benwerd
Thank you! Looking forward to hacking from afar today.
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gRegorLove
session scheduling time
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tantek
suddenly I have no idea what I want to talk about
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tantek
er, facilitate a session about
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benwerd
salmention?
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benwerd
(kevinmarks has prodded me into getting that working today)
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GWG
You are now all up on the Chromecast.
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GWG
There is supposed to be audio, right?
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gRegorLove
tantek is talking about the /SWAT0 challenge
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GWG
I hear him not
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snarfed
SWAT0++
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Loqi
SWAT0 has 1 karma
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GWG
Working on it
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gRegorLove
Now, GWG?
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gRegorLove
"Can you hear me now?"
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GWG
Chromecast issue. Fixed it
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bret
GWG: which stream? youtube or talky?
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bret
ah ok
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benwerd
(YouTube has good audio)
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GWG
Youtube. I haven't figured out how to do Talky on a Chromecast
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bret
fixed the demo post http://bret.io/2015/07/11/funny-gif-time/
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@cackhanded
Interesting day at @IndieWebCampUK. Much food for thought on how impossible it is to even get started without being a programmer. (twtr.io/11WyTSbjvfo)
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gRegorLove
question about what the 'line' is for indieweb - ok to use AWS or GH pages, etc. aaron explained owning the domain is basically the line, the hosting is all plumbing and not of concern to the use reading your site.
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barnabywalters
friendica?
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gRegorLove
permalinks should exist as long as you own the domain
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@IndieWebCampUK
@cackhanded be sure to check out @withknown, and the indieweb WordPress plugins! (twtr.io/11WydNYe6f0)
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@cackhanded
Tomorrow at @IndieWebCampUK I’ll be helping anyone I can and prototyping a little something. (twtr.io/11WygB0ip7C)
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KartikPrabhu
reads the huge backlog
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KartikPrabhu
rhiaro: for SSL I use sslmate, paid, but they have a ruby script that you can run on your server to generate the keys and what not so you don't have to do the openssl complicated stuff
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KartikPrabhu
what is sslmate?
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Loqi
sslmate is a SSL certificate provider https://indiewebcamp.com/sslmate
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@jgarber
@cackhanded @IndieWebCampUK More than a little jealous I can’t be there with you all! (twtr.io/11Wyw6yh3Sw)
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GWG
For the next seven hours
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GWG
Not in seven hours
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JonPincus
you're available for the next seven hours, right?
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GWG
Yes
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JonPincus
got it
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GWG
I thought someone said I was not available until 7 hours from now
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GWG
I am.
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JonPincus
we probably said all of those things :)
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GWG
I'm sitting here listening and writing WordPress plugins.
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JonPincus
:)
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GWG
There is a stain on the ceiling.
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tantek
session proposals now
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Demos (+222) "stub" (view diff)
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tantek
first up Paul Munday posts what books he’s read
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tantek
so he wants a way to mark them up with a microformat
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GWG
Doesn't that fall into the same discussion as marking up what videos you watch and music you listen to?
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tantek
GWG - similar category, yet books have very specific info about them
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015 (-6) "/* Participating */ demos link" (view diff)
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GWG
tantek: Agreed. they all do.
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GWG
I can't see the board, but aaronpk is pretty clear.
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GWG
raises hand for WordPress discussion
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aaronpk
I think the YouTube stream is a minute behind real life
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GWG
aaronpk: Not sure. Tall guy with accent talking now on Youtube stream
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JonPincus
that was jeena
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GWG
Is that who that is?
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GWG
Good to know.
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JonPincus
i believe so, talking about reader
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GWG
aaronpk: Just walked to the board, then back to the podium
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: definitely interested in microformat/webmention intro
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GWG
Just trying to figure out the approximate delay
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misuba
I can’t see the video, can anyone list things out?
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GWG
It usually ends up on the wiki
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reidab
searches for schedule information
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aaronpk
http://IndieWebCamp.com/2015/Schedule
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aaronpk
Or in your email :-)
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reidab
well yes, but that grid doesn't have anything filled it on it
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aaronpk
We are making it right now :-)
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reidab
excellent
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gRegorLove
Photo will be posted and we'll copy it into the wiki
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GWG
Speaking of WordPress, by the way, just pushed an update for one of my WordPress projects, the one I've been working on since IWC Cambridge
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JonPincus
it looks like the wordpress session will be at 3:00 pacific time
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JonPincus
gwg, which update did you push?
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GWG
JonPincus: Simple Location
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JonPincus
cool
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tantek
proposed a session on Post Styling (mobile vs. large screen, permalink vs stream, different post types)
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+0) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ move back sessions 30 minutes" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_
If I were there I'd suggest an indiecard session
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reidab
heads downtown
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GWG
KevinMarks_: People who are there derive the most benefit
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gRegorLove
I'm adding sessions to the wiki now
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+63) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ 12:30" (view diff)
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GWG
Hi, gRegorLove
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+65) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ 14:30" (view diff)
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GWG
No video?
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+64) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ 15:30" (view diff)
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JonPincus
anybody interested in streaming the community session?
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JonPincus
here's the etherpad: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/community
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+84) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ 16:30" (view diff)
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: jonpincus: yes, a stream would be great!
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@anomalily
Kicking off the #communities session at #indiewebcamp today! (twtr.io/11X2_K7RNh8)
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+70) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ 17:30" (view diff)
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GWG
Are any sessions streaming?
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gRegorLove
https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule#Saturday_2015-07-11 is up to date.
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Loqi
Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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gRegorLove
Please drop your etherpad links in the session pages
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GWG
Dead air
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Building_Blocks (+38) "etherpad" (view diff)
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bret
shaunguice https://beta.talky.io/iwc-community stream
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GWG
What about the other room?
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tantek
benwerd - are you upgrading werd.io?
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benwerd
tantek: yes
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benwerd
from scratch
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benwerd
hence white screen
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benwerd
it'll be done soon ;)
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gRegorLove
Nice minimalist theme ;)
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tantek
nice - just got called out in a demo ;)
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benwerd
d'oh
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benwerd
sorry
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gRegorLove
Indieweb Building Blocks session: http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/intro
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benwerd
I'm upgrading to 0.8 (out next week) which has all-new interface code and a bunch of other things. Really ought to be doing this with git
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benwerd
withknown.com sites are up, of course ;)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Indieweb_and_Community (+42) "etherpad" (view diff)
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GWG
gRegorLove: What about video for the Building Blocks session?
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gRegorLove
Don't think they're broadcasting
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gRegorLove
tantek: Can we broadcast #intro?
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GWG
I'd like to listen
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tantek
working on it
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GWG
Okay
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parzzix
benefits of flat files vs traditional databases?....GO!
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tantek
what’s our talky again for PDX?
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tantek
parzzix - check wiki /flatfile
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GWG
I thought it was /iwc
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GWG
Or /indiewebcamp
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Books!_Metadata!_Microformats! (+40) "etherpad" (view diff)
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tantek
http://beta.talky.io/indiewebcamp
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benwerd
And I'm back (whew)
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tantek
GWG how about now?
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GWG
I have you up on the screen.
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GWG
Do you see me there now?
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GWG
I hid my video. Not really compelling.
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tantek
you should see aaronpk and projector
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Loqi
definitely
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GWG
I do. I just got Shaun as well.
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tantek
How’s the audio?
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GWG
Great
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tantek
cool
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tantek
thanks for verifying!
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GWG
I just put aaronpk full screen so I could see the screen
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tantek
great
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Network_Flow (+45) "etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Micropub_State_of_the_Union (+41) "etherpad" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com
edited /Getting_Started_on_WordPress (-157) "/* Optional Plugins */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/WordPress (+40) "etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Post_Styling (+44) "etherpad" (view diff)
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@Amy_Sharpton
Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twtr.io/11X3oy7kNmR)
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gRegorLove
Just realized we changed the domain for our etherpads this year from mozilla to indiewebcamp
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Indieweb_Reader (+96) "etherpad" (view diff)
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reidab
is downstairs at the door
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bret
reidab: coming!
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Indieweb_Node_JS_Modules (+37) "etherpad" (view diff)
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@t
@aaronpk re: https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/07/11/1/indiewebcamp And here’s a reply to your post. Let’s see if it shows up on your post. (ttk.me t4c71) (twtr.io/11X4Nm8C5u8)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Microformats_as_the_Database (+46) "etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+16) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ Schedule corrections" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Static_Websites (+39) "etherpad" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com
created /2015/Podcasting (+43) "Created page with "http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/podcasting"" (view diff)
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gRegorLove
Etherpads are linked from all the session pages on https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Schedule#Saturday_2015-07-11 now.
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david.shanske.com
edited /User:David.shanske.com (+18) "/* Wordpress Development */" (view diff)
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gRegorLove
Schedule correction, too. I had mis-copied from the white board.
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+1) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ room names" (view diff)
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GWG
gRegorLove: Can you do official Talky URLs for the rooms?
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+231) "/* Saturday 2015-07-11 */ clean up session display names" (view diff)
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@iNavegar
Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twtr.io/11X59XbgUtL)
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JonPincus
good idea for later session today: broadening the appeal of interweb
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@Socialmedia_age
Two years of being on the #indieweb http://dragplus.com/post/id/31062672 (twtr.io/11X5PrwQHmf)
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GWG
WordPress implementation of Microformats is incorrect and they won't fix it
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Demos (+12) (view diff)
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gRegorLove
What are the other talky URLs and their rooms, bret/tantek?
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tantek
not sure
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bret
https://beta.talky.io/iwc-community
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tantek
gRegorLove: in the main room we’re just using /indiewebcamp
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GWG
Last year, you used iwc-roomname
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GWG
Except for the main room
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gRegorLove
Looks like right now there's https://beta.talky.io/iwc-community and https://beta.talky.io/indiewebcamp
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gRegorLove
Latter is the main room, Picard
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gregorlove.com
edited /2015/Schedule (+1) "/* Sunday 2015-07-12 */ room names" (view diff)
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bret
GWG: ill switch next session
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bret
i forgot about it
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GWG
Not going to happen
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GWG
Resistance is high
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gRegorLove
Anticipated livestream links on http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/2015
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gRegorLove
Resistance is futile
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gRegorLove
Hi GWG. Just saw you for a second :)
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GWG
Yes
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GWG
I may set up a better camera though
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GWG
I have a wide angle
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GWG
I just set up my tribute to International Indiewebcamp behind me
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gRegorLove
Your video is off now. Have flags up?
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GWG
gRegorLove: Switching off the built in camera.
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GWG
I just set up my tribute to International Indiewebcamp behind me
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gRegorLove
GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 101 karma
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tantek
GWG++
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Loqi
GWG has 102 karma
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GWG
I stole the flags
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GWG
I'm just testing. I switched off the built-in camera. I wanted the wider angle of an external webcam.
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gRegorLove
GWG: Looks good from here
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GWG
It's my old Microsoft HD Lifecam. I upgraded at home. I'm not at home.
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GWG
I figured at some point, I might want to participate
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tantek.com
edited /own_your_data (+494) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Benwerd since 2013-07-11" (view diff)
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tantek
!tell benwerd based on your blog post, I added you here: https://indiewebcamp.com/own_your_data#Ben_Werdmuller feel free to add more details / post types!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek
bret - photo time, main room!
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gRegorLove
Hey other room. Group photo time. bret
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benwerd
ooh, I should find some references. Actually since 2013-05-30
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Loqi
benwerd: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: based on your blog post, I added you here: https://indiewebcamp.com/own_your_data#Ben_Werdmuller feel free to add more details / post types! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-11/line/1436646711662
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GWG
I'll just come back in 60 then, as you are eating and photoing
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tantek
benwerd - yes if you can cite specific references for each that would be great
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zackfischmann.com
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tantek
also I remember you saying you wrote all your original tweets from your site, but were still using Twitter directly sometimes for @-replies and faves - is that still true?
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GWG
That was fun.
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GWG
Will be back in 60
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Loqi
slack/shaunguice: ditto
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tantek
breaking for lunch here in Portland!
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benwerd
Picking a bad time to ask a question, but: what markup are people using for displaying replies under a main post? I'm seeing kylewm and acegiak use h-cite - is that recommended?
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benwerd
(Known is getting salmention today)
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benwerd
I also have a dumb micropub question for aaronpk: how do we tell a micropub client which syndication options are available?
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aaronpk
benwerd: there's some docs on that on the micropub page
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benwerd
ok, I'll reread; thanks
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aaronpk
It maybe moved to the brainstorming page, not sure
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@tinokremer
Nice Ben and thank you for offering Known Pro. I'm just two weeks on the