#indiewebcamp 2015-09-07

2015-09-07 UTC
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tantek what is 304?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "304" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/s/102X
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tantek what is etag?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "etag" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/s/102Y
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KevinMarks what is 304?
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kylewm got confirmation from a facebook support engineer about those instagram permalinks http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32343041/publish-via-facebook-api-how-to-include-link-to-original-like-instagram-does?noredirect=1#comment52722559_32343041
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kylewm i want one of these for webmentions https://twitter.com/WardCunningham/status/640688580562554880
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+1252) "/* History */ Updated the history with information on the Heartbeat pre-alpha release (including source code release)" (view diff)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* ind.ie is not IndieWeb nor IndieWebCamp */ Updated Ind.ie’s name to use a capital ‘i’ (which is what we’ve transitioned to using)" (view diff)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie () "(-1200) /* History */ Moving the Heartbeat-specific information to the Heartbeat section." (view diff)
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Zegnat Good afternoon IndieWeb :)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+2656) "/* Heartbeat project */" (view diff)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+137) "Updated Ind.ie’s description (correct capitalisation, mention that we are a social enterprise and the company structure, and updated for current focus.) Also added details on funding." (view diff)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* ind.ie is not IndieWeb nor IndieWebCamp */ Updated capitalisation." (view diff)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* Heartbeat self-description */ Updated capitalisation." (view diff)
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GWG Morning, Zegnat
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Zegnat Anything going on today?
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Jeena I found a bug in my webmentions url parser which finds it in the HTTP header
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Zegnat That sounds pretty bad, Jeena, did you miss out on any mentions?
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Jeena might be, it's still a learning process and who in their right mind adds a semicolon to a url? ;)
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cjk101010 .oO(who in the right mind depends on `split` to parse a URL?)
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+335) "/* History */ Replied to paragraph were it is stated that we claimed that we provided refunds with an update that we didn’t just claim it, we did provide them. Also proving links to source code repo and forums so people can follow along with dev." (view diff)
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cweiske some years ago I used spaces in URLs in my blog
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Jeena Link: <http://example.com/mention.txt;create>; rel="webmention"
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cweiske I still get 404s on my server
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Jeena hehe cjk101010
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cweiske Jeena, ";" is the standard url parameter separator in java IIRC
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* History */ Fixed capitalisation of the Ind.ie name." (view diff)
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Jeena who in their right mind uses Java? :p
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* History */ Fixed capitalisation of Ind.ie name (the one I’d missed)" (view diff)
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Zegnat URL parameters are an headache. Kirby uses ":" instead of "=", and that apparently upsets Apache on Windows
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+121) "/* Heartbeat answers */ Added link to the Ind.ie forum so people can ask questions directly on our own site. (Y’know, the indie web way.) ;)" (view diff)
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voxpelli Jeena: are you planning to do any Salmention work?
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Jeena I find the word "salmention" weird, every time i see it it looks like Salmon
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Jeena You mean to send webmentions on new comments, etc?
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ar.al edited /ind.ie (+0) "/* Heartbeat project */ Fixed typo: “enabled” -> “enables”" (view diff)
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Jeena I think I will do that
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voxpelli Jeena: yes, and to receive comments from others
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voxpelli Jeena: maybe we can eventually demo a Swedish SWAT0 then?
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Jeena the second part seems much more complicated because I'm not sure where to show the comments, etc.
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Jeena ah that sounds like a chalange ^^
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voxpelli I'm almost ready to take on role A and B – but need someone else to take on role C – and either A or B as it needs to be three different tech stacks :)
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Jeena with salmentions I would be able to do rola A?
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Jeena hm and b too
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Jeena ok, sounds doable I guess, I will read about it tonight and try to really understand swat0
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voxpelli Jeena: yeah, sounds like the best would be for you to target A initially and I could do B and if we have a Swedish reader then someone could do C with that, otherwise we could just hijack Woodwind or something for that purpose :)
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voxpelli Jeena: preliminary target HWC 23/9 perhaps? ;)
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Jeena yep, sounds good
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voxpelli !tell KevinMarks Maybe add the JS from http://indiewebcamp.com/indie-config#How_to_consume to Svgur Web Actions to activate indie-config?
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voxpelli no Loqi :'(
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@zacanger We're all only still using twitter because no big enough names have endorsed an alternative... yet. Come on, #IndieWeb, you got this. (twitter.com/_/status/640881610586521600)
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GWG Maybe Loqi celebrates Labor Day
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tantek aaronpk: Loqi appears to be away.
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tantek looks like he left sometime ~06:45-07:30
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tantek Welcome back Loqi! now can you remember what happened while you were gone?
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Loqi dude
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KevinMarks loqi was gone yesterday too
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KevinMarks last night: 7:36:23 PM Loqi has quit: Ping timeout: 272 seconds.
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voxpelli KevinMarks: about my attempt to Loqi-message you: Plan on adding indie-config to your webactions?
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KevinMarks kylewm: just put your webmention data into http://bl.ocks.org/mbostock/7607999
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[snarfed] kevinmarks: interesting! could be easy to do with the bridgy data in the spreadsheet linked here: https://snarfed.org/2014-11-06_happy-1000th-bridgy#comment-2583731
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[snarfed] but the data itself is biased since it's only silo responses
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KevinMarks voxpelli: how does that work (I tried it with the toolbelt)
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[snarfed] it's actually one downside of webmention being decentralized: no easy way to do this kind of analytics or data mining
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[snarfed] webmention.io could get close though
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KevinMarks and webmention.herokuapp.com together
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voxpelli KevinMarks: in Chrome and Firefox it tries to open a custom protocol – so unless one has registered such a protocol nothing will happen
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voxpelli KevinMarks: what's the toolbelt? the scripts here: http://indiewebcamp.com/indie-config#How_to_consume ?
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[snarfed] true!
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KevinMarks the browser plugin
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KevinMarks https://github.com/barnabywalters/web-action-hero-toolbelt
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voxpelli KevinMarks: ok, that doesn't do indie-config – indie-config is meant to remove the need for browser extensions
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voxpelli (also never got that extension to work in my Firefox :/ )
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KevinMarks so it would work on mobile too?
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tantek yes that's the idea
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voxpelli I guess so – on Android Chrome and Firefox it will likely work
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voxpelli Safari doesn't support Navigator.registerProtocolHandler() so no luck on iOS
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voxpelli really needs to set up an indie-config of his own now that his site can actually receive social posts – still no automatic webmentions though so would not be fully smooth
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KevinMarks OK, removed jquery and redundant SVGAsPng and adding those now
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voxpelli if you want to test it out I believe kylewm has an indie-config you can lend – I spam his logs occasionally when I lend his to try my own webactions :)
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KevinMarks on iOS protocols belong to apps so you'd have to make an app fro it, right?
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KevinMarks who has an indiewconfig that support reply then?
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voxpelli kylewm – and there's also https://waterpigs.co.uk/indie-config.html
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KevinMarks ooh, 2 new SVGs not uploaded by me
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voxpelli KevinMarks: the iOS-apps doesn't work as the protocol is only used to load a hidden iframe that posts the config to the parent site
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tantek did you check the IndieWeb Examples on the page?
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KevinMarks http://svgur.com/
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voxpelli one can use WorkFlow.app pretty successfully on iOS though
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voxpelli but then it's not webactions anymore
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KevinMarks hm, my svg to png translator seems to be making them half the width I want it to
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KevinMarks but when I test it without the code they work
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KevinMarks o_O
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[aaronpk] Feature request for the Wordpress micropub plugin: add categories or tags to posts based on the contents of the micropub request, like based on certain client_id or hashtags in the post
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[aaronpk] Also why is it that as soon as I go out of town Loqi forgets about IRC. He never quits randomly while I'm actually at a computer
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[aaronpk] I'll backfill logs when I'm back
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GWG aaronpk: You want to file an issue in Github?
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@tinokremer Great, Brid.gy now support Flickr as well! https://kylewm.com/2015/09/https-www-brid-gy-update-launched-support-for-backfeeding #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/640958833632890880)
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GWG aaronpk: https://github.com/snarfed/wordpress-micropub/issues/18
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KevinMarks OK, I think I have the pngification working now. and also indie-config. just not sure how to test that
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KevinMarks have at it: svgur.com
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[aaronpk] Thanks gwg!
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voxpelli KevinMarks: tested the indie-config – worked
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KevinMarks yay
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KevinMarks and did the webmention show up too?
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adactio.com edited /events/2015-09-09-homebrew-website-club (+44) "/* Where */" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /events/2015-09-09-homebrew-website-club (+14) "/* Brighton */" (view diff)
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