#indiewebcamp 2016-03-06

2016-03-06 UTC
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[kevinmarks] wow, woodwind auto embedded the YT video linked to in this post http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2016/03/towards-a-taxonomy-of-cliches-.html
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[kevinmarks] neat
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Loqi [Charlie Stross] Towards a taxonomy of cliches in Space Opera
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[kevinmarks] that qualifies as a batman chart
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aaronpk oh haha i have freeboard set up on my kitchen ipad and i'm pushing temperature/humidity data to it
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aaronpk the funny thing is the graphs don't show any units on the x or y axis so you dont really know what's going on
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gRegorLove I'm wanting to add a bookmarklet for easily replying to a tweet from the Twitter stream. Does anyone have one, or pointers?
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aaronpk i used to have one that rewrote the reply button on twitter to open a popup with the tweet URL in a query param
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gRegorLove Don't think those work anymore with the content security policy restrictions though, right?
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aaronpk https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieWeb-Reply-Browser-Extension
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aaronpk it's a browser extension so it does
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gRegorLove document.querySelector('.selected-stream-item').getAttribute('data-item-id'); gets me the tweet id
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aaronpk wow it's been years since i've touched that code
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aaronpk yeah my approach now is to avoid needing to go to twitter.com as much as possible
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gRegorLove Oh?
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aaronpk always has been i guess, but i want to take it to the extreme
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gRegorLove Do you follow people in a reader instead and reply directly from there?
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aaronpk mostly this https://aaronparecki.com/2015/08/29/8/why-i-live-in-irc
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Why I Live in IRC
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gRegorLove Ah. I still follow a lot of people directly, so Twitter is my main reader for that.
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gRegorLove This appears to work: document.querySelector('.selected-stream-item').children[0].getAttribute('data-permalink-path');
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aaronpk i follow too many people on twitter so my home timeline isn't useful anymore :(
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gRegorLove Yeah, I need to weed my followings a bit.
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KevinMarks that's why I have my flowpast app, but I need to rebuild it and make it more indieweb friendly
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gRegorLove Got a bookmarklet working: http://gregorlove.com/2016/03/i-wrote-a-quick-reply-bookmarklet/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] I wrote a quick-reply bookmarklet for Twitter. It redirects the browser to your specified URL with the tweet’s permalink as a parameter. This should work for selected tweets in your timeline, specific account’s timeline, and even the silly modal-...
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gRegorLove What is bookmarklet?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bookmarklet" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fq
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gRegorLove Bookmarklet is a web browser bookmark that runs javascript commands on the current page.
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loqi.me created /Bookmarklet (+115) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-05/line/1457230143090 and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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kylewm Gregorlove, which browser?
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@ChrisAldrich #indieweb @withknown has a great bookmarklet for web, but what's best similar method to share on mobile? Is there an Android share app? (twitter.com/_/status/706326321245220864)
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Loqi [indieweb] "#indieweb @withknown has a great bookmarklet for web, but what's best similar method to share on mobile? Is there an Android share app?" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/indieweb-withknown-has-a-great-bookmarklet-for-web-but-whats
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@kylewmahan @ChrisAldrich https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android is pretty decent. It's kind of the beginning and end of the options rn unfortunately. (twitter.com/_/status/706328280354304000)
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KartikPrabhu you canuse bookmarklets on mobile browsers right?
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KevinMarks it's awkward - you need to autocomplete their names on chrome
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gRegorLove kylewm: Chrome. Thought it would work in Firefox but apparently not. I'll work on it.
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gRegorLove Twitter's CSP blockes it in Firefox. Geez. I thought it would only do that if it tried to load external scripts.
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KartikPrabhu that does seems like good security practice by FF
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gRegorLove Yes, but it apparently doesn't differentiate a javascript: link initiated by the user vs. in the content of the page.
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gRegorLove I mean, javascript:(function(){alert('test')}()); fails.
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KartikPrabhu hmm
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gRegorLove My bookmarklet is just to read the dom, build a link, and redirct. No external scripts, so it'd be nice if it worked. I get the trade off, it's just annoying
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KevinMarks there was an issue of people being told to paste javascript urls into the toolbar
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KartikPrabhu yeah i remember that
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kevinmarks.com edited /timezone (+100) "we weren't kidding about the definition" (view diff)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Liked Ryan Barrett's Easy IndieWeb interactions on Android" by Tino Kremer https://tinokremer.nl/2016/liked-ryan-barretts-easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android-63b7bdbb9e
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@mivesto RT @HTML5Weekly Webmention W3C Working Draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160301/ (twitter.com/_/status/706399132047548417)
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petermolnar re Firefox vs bookmarklets: about:config -> security.csp.enable => false ( I know it removes a security layer, but this is borked in FF )
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Loqi petermolnar: tantek left you a message 1 day, 4 hours ago: Mightybell is a mishmash of enterprise-y buzzwords and it's not at all why it is relevant to the indieweb - and no one asked about it - so I'm going to delete the page. If you can find an external citation as to why Mightybell is relevant to the indieweb we can document accordingly. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-04/line/1457151930209
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petermolnar aaronpk re: munin is easy to setup, but I've changed to collectd a while ago, you might want to check that out as well: https://petermolnar.eu/lightweight-system-monitoring-with-collectd-and-jarmon/
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] Lightweight resource monitoring with collectd and jarmon
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Loqi [indieweb] "Have a look at https://indiewebcamp.com and search there. You will find everything you need about the #indieweb" by Tino Kremer https://tinokremer.nl/2016/have-a-look-at-and-search-there-you-will-find
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Loqi [mention] Tino Kremer commented 'Have a look at https://indiewebcamp.com and search there. You will find everythi...' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com (https://tinokremer.nl/2016/have-a-look-at-and-search-there-you-will-find)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Learning how templates works @withknown http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/developers/templating/#templates-in-known planning to add a share to silo to this website #indieweb" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/learning-how-templates-works-withknown-enlatestdeveloperstemplatingtemplates-in-known-planning-to-add-a
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Loqi [indieweb] "koest.lich.es #14:" http://eay.li/2s4
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aaronpk petermolnar: Munin is especially easy to set up when it's already set up and running for other things :-)
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petermolnar fair point :)
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aaronpk i will check out your post tho
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aaronpk That actually seems oddly similar to Munin
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Loqi [indieweb] "ChrisAldrich on Twitter: "#indieweb @withknown has a great bookmarklet for web, but what's best similar method to share on mobile? Is there an Android share app?"" by Rick Mendes https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/706326321245220864
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aaronpk the collectd daemon polls everything at some interval, looks like you have it set at 30 seconds
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aaronpk and it writes rrd files just like Munin does
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GWG aaronpk, I also use collectd
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aaronpk i'm gonna attempt to set up collectd and stuff now, from petermolnar's post
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@johibkhan RT @HTML5Weekly Webmention W3C Working Draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160301/ (twitter.com/_/status/706505381309083648)
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Loqi [indieweb] "ChrisAldrich on Twitter: "#indieweb @withknown has a great bookmarklet for web, but what's best similar method to share on mobile? Is there an Android share app?"" by Rick Mendes https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/706326321245220864
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Loqi [indieweb] "Learning how templates works @withknown http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/developers/templating/#templates-in-known planning to add a share to silo to this website #indieweb
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petermolnar aaronpk it's similar enough, but it's a bit more flexible
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aaronpk the graphs are way prettier P)
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aaronpk i'm making progress
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petermolnar aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 90 karma
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aaronpk setting up the dashboard is a looooot of work
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petermolnar pretty graphs++
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petermolnar there are other frontends as well
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petermolnar jarmon is pretty abanadoned unfortunately
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aaronpk hm maybe i'll investigate one of the others then. it's going to take a lot to set up jarmon with all my data sources
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aaronpk also i still have to figure out the networking side of this, to get a few other servers pushing to this one
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aaronpk this one's nice https://github.com/pommi/CGP
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Loqi [indieweb] "Thinking @edgeryders would be a great "powered by #drupal" community to get it to adopt #indieweb https://edgeryders.eu" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/thinking-edgeryders-would-be-a-great-powered-by-drupal-community
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@RikMende Thinking @edgeryders would be a great "powered by #drupal" community to get it to adopt #indieweb https… https://www.rmendes.net/2016/thinking-edgeryders-would-be-a-great-powered-by-drupal-community (twitter.com/_/status/706531442935754752)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@ChrisAldrich https://snarfed.org/easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android is pretty decent. It's kind of the beginning and end of the options rn unfortunately." by Kyle Mahan https://kylewm.com/2016/03/chrisaldrich-easy-indieweb-interactions-on-android-is-pretty-decent-its-kind-of-the-beginning
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Loqi [indieweb] "SF Homebrew Website Club" by Kyle Mahan https://kylewm.com/2016/03/sf-homebrew-website-club-12
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Loqi [indieweb] "SF Homebrew Website Club" by Kyle Mahan https://kylewm.com/2016/03/sf-homebrew-website-club-11
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@edgeryders RT @RikMende Thinking @edgeryders would be a great "powered by #drupal" community to get it to adopt #indieweb https… https://www.rmendes.net/2016/thinking-edgeryders-would-be-a-great-powered-by-drupal-community (twitter.com/_/status/706539771548532736)
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@JayGreasley @aexmo my bad, it's POSSE - http://indiewebcamp.com/posse https://adactio.com/journal/9694 (twitter.com/_/status/706546243623849984)
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@devleakslinks The #IndieWeb is important - it focuses on You, not the corporations that own the big silo content farms. http://devleaks.com/link/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/706554950801817601)
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petermolnar what is cloudflare?
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Loqi CloudFlare is a service to, in their own words, "supercharge your website" https://indiewebcamp.com/CloudFlare
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petermolnar that's a good enough description
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@zhukovskyv RT @HTML5Weekly Webmention W3C Working Draft: https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-webmention-20160301/ (twitter.com/_/status/706575116487024640)
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@CarlNelson I want to migrate my existing site and blog to an easier to run and manage platform, currently it's Octopress. Happy to change #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/706592116701396992)
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gRegorLove petermolnar: re Firefox CSP, does that setting disable CSP altogether? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-06/line/1457255808852
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Loqi [petermolnar] re Firefox vs bookmarklets: about:config -> security.csp.enable => false ( I know it removes a security layer, but this is borked in FF )
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sknebel gRegorLove: yes, it does
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bear FYI - if your a user of Transmission on OS X -- http://researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2016/03/new-os-x-ransomware-keranger-infected-transmission-bittorrent-client-installer/
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