#indiewebcamp 2016-03-15

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kylewm snarfed: you can probably close that issue now that csarven has removed mf2 from his site :P
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snarfed whoa really? :scorched_earth:
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snarfed i assume there's some back story that i don't really need to know
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kylewm don't know yet, his tweet is in scrollback up there. said "blog post to follow"
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tantek Good evening #indiewebcamp!
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GWG Good evening
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kylewm good day 1, tantek?
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tantek.com edited /Twitter (+263) "Long slow death of Twitter (via @kylewm) pretty much sums up its history" (view diff)
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tantek indeed - so much so that I'm distracted reading your posts kylewm
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KevinMarks i did another twitter post http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/twitters-tragedy-of-the-comments
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KevinMarks but I think I need to do a longer one, especially after listening to tantek's critique today
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tantek wait I haven't ranted that before?
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KevinMarks no, you have about how news works, but i hadn't connected it to twitter's decay as directly
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@HongPong RT @ChrisAldrich Sharing from the #IndieWeb on Mobile (Android) with Apps and @WithKnown: http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/sharing-from-the-indieweb-on-mobile-android-with-apps-and (twitter.com/_/status/709571675407454208)
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tantek KevinMarks: I may have been witholding to not go all negative ranty rant
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tantek but I was tired and it was the second to last session of the day so I couldn't help it
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KevinMarks I should eat, I got up on boston time
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Loqi I agree
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tantek KevinMarks: was there anything about the Twitter critique that resonated for you?
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tantek ok I think aaronpk and I inspired each other in our indie events discussion to make some progress
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tantek one thing we analyzed and realized is that Facebook's mobile (web) event presentation has continued to worsen with each iteration
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tantek (for the past 2+ years)
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[kevinmarks] The loss of personal comment is somewhat true, especially when compared to the slow motion retro timeline
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[kevinmarks] But I think that also the reply/retweet/hashtag amplification means non personal posts are less seen
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@CaptSolo RT @csarven After 11+ years of #microformats evangelism/implementation I removed it from my site. My #indiewebcamp hack. Ask me why. Blog post to follow (twitter.com/_/status/709597311882694656)
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aaronpk i fixed it! https://aaronparecki.com/2016/03/15/2/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Test post from this morning intro session at #indiewebcamp
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aaronpk *now* i can go to sleep
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aaronpk it was a memory issue. turns out iphone photos are huuuuuge
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aaronpk had to downsample the image before posting it
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KevinMarks ah, right, yes
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KevinMarks instagram keeps 'em dinky
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aaronpk of course every time i tested this locally, i was using smaller images
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KevinMarks I even get it with screenshots on my android 'cos it's 400 dpi
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KevinMarks 1440x2560 png, which can be huge too
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aaronpk heh the large iphone is only 1920x1080
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aaronpk hm i might need to distinguish between png and jpg for this
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aaronpk it converts it to a jpg right now. guess that's good enough for now.
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tantek interesting, so downsampling is not optional but required to function on iOS?
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KevinMarks 4160x3120 stills and 3840x2160 video? no wonder this phone fills up fast
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KevinMarks this was why ben was wary fo video uploads, because of all the processing that would be needed
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aaronpk well at least required for this particular use case
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aaronpk but silent failures are no fun
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aaronpk i did notice the app was getting a memory warning from the OS, so that was my clue
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tantek but this is for photos right?
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tantek re: video - took a while for IG to fix the memory problems that it had - used to be that the IG app would crash 75-90% of the time when I tried to upload video. Something has gotten better in the past 6 months with it
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aaronpk yeah this is just photos. not sure how i'm going to handle video after this!
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KevinMarks true, even 4160x3120 is only 58MB; not sure why that is too much ram for you to use briefly
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aaronpk it might be that these share extensions get lower memory limits
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aaronpk i should probably read the apple docs on this
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Loqi agreed.
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tantek aaronpk: I've seen share to iMessage take a while (like ka-lunk) with photos
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tantek (seconds long, like it is frozen)
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aaronpk huh, yeah that's what i'm seeing with this
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aaronpk at least it's not just me
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aaronpk time for bed! see everyone bright and early!
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tantek going to archive a few things
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tantek good post KevinMarks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/twitters-tragedy-of-the-comments
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Twitter's Tragedy of the Comments
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tantek attempts to summarize KevinMarks's post
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: good response
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KevinMarks Abi's post is good too
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KartikPrabhu yes it is
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KevinMarks I want to write a more positive post about how twitter can fix things
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KevinMarks that post is shorter version of about 45 minutes of me talking about twitter and gnusocial on TWiG last week
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tantek how about a positive post about how we can do out do Twitter, that Twitter is welcome to try adopting as well
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KevinMarks that could work too
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KevinMarks the other thing I got from your comment this afternoon was that snapchat may have already won the "personal posts" mindshare
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KevinMarks which worries me as twitter, flaws and all, is much more weblike and parallel publics than snapchat is
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: you should POSSE your replies more appropriately https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/pi-day-2016#httpknownkevinmarkscom2016well-its-only-gregorian-pi-day-we-need-to-wait ;)
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Loqi [Kartik Prabhu] Today is #piday (mm-dd), which means… absolutely nothing.
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KartikPrabhu that syndication is not a reply to my Twitter POSSE
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KevinMarks I was relying on known to propagate
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KevinMarks and it missed it
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KartikPrabhu seems like a Known bug ;)
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KevinMarks I'm not sure where in the chain though, as I posted that from woodwind
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KartikPrabhu i see
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KevinMarks so I fixed the typo and that propogtaed to you
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KartikPrabhu yup got the webmention
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KevinMarks If I now check the twitter button and republish, will that work out the threading?
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KartikPrabhu no idea
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KartikPrabhu try it
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KartikPrabhu you might have to "retrigger" brigdy
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KevinMarks hah, now I have 2 tweets in my 'also on'
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KartikPrabhu oh not good
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KevinMarks I think known has been more tested with an in-reply-to directly to a tweet
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KevinMarks not indirectly
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KartikPrabhu possibly
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@kevinmarks @jobsworth yes, in the middle of IndiewebCamp MIT (which I'm remote attending) (twitter.com/_/status/709638412400087041)
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KevinMarks when you don't understand POSSE: https://twitter.com/jimpjorps/status/709437010063323137
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@jimpjorps open source ruins lives [photo] (twitter.com/_/status/709437010063323137)
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kylewm You have to include kartik's @name for it to be threaded by Twitter
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KartikPrabhu in Known?
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kylewm (Arguable whether known should add it automatically when posseing or not)
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KartikPrabhu skips that after 2 sentences
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KevinMarks oh, so, a twitter in reply to needs the @ unless it's to yourself?
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KevinMarks I think known puts the @ in if it is a tweet, but this was posted via woodwind
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[kevinmarks] Another viewpoint on how twitter has changed http://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2016/03/15/twitter-has-changed-get-over-it
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sknebel so basically "Twitter has turned into a consumption platform, so our ads can work better now"? :/
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petermolnar the inevitable outcome for silos
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petermolnar https://github.com/ageitgey/amplify - "There are two reasons to use Google AMP: First, it's really fast! (...) Second, Google might feature your AMP page in Search Results!" Let The Content Wars begin.
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[oliverpattison] I’m not really sure what AMP brings to a Jekyll site though – a static page is already as fast as you want it to be
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cweiske with AMP the customers and designers can't force stupid things onto the site
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[oliverpattison] I’m just really skeptical about AMP. If performance is the concern, there are cheaper ways to get there than standardizing. Optimize images, reduce reliance on scripts, use progressive enhancement, serve an appropriate amount of markup.
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voxpelli [oliverpattison]: it brings an enforcement of async-loading + a pledge of that to clients
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cweiske you can get all benefits without AMP already, but designers, SEO people and customers mostly want stupid things that destroy your performance
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voxpelli liking the approach of https://timkadlec.com/2016/02/a-standardized-alternative-to-amp/ more though
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Loqi — February 24, 2016 —CPP: A Standardized Alternative to AMP
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cweiske so developers not have an excuse to say "no, I can't do that"
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cweiske s/not/now/
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Loqi cweiske meant to say: so developers now have an excuse to say "no, I can't do that"
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voxpelli but maybe AMP can be what Spdy was to HTTP2 but for something like CPP
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petermolnar [oliverpattison] you're not the only one sceptical, especially that amp is js;dr since it blockes the content until the amp js is loaded
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[oliverpattison] my impression is that it is an engineering solution to organizational and social problems
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[oliverpattison] whereas what Tim Kadlec is suggesting is an engineering solution for user experience and performance problems in web development and advertising, which is great!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2016/MIT/Schedule (+10) "/* Tuesday March 15, 2016 */" (view diff)
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aaronpk we did quick intros this morning to share what everyone will be working on today
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aaronpk demos at 4pm Eastern time!
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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tantek cleverdevil: you were working on making Known easier to setup on Dreamhost right? Are there docs for that? Didn't find Dreamhost listed here: http://docs.withknown.com/en/latest/install/sharedhost/
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snarfed morning IWC MIT!
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aaronpk goooooood morning!
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aaronpk anybody remote want to demo later today?
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snarfed ducks
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ben_thatmustbeme is really feeling the burden of a single monitor
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codenamedmitri unrelated, this Web as Material conference in Iceland this summer sounds awesome: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/material16/material-conference-2016
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petermolnar ben_thatmustbeme single monitor is good if you want to concentrate on writing code and nothing else :)
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aaronpk he's organizing indiewebcamp nürnberg!
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ben_thatmustbeme petermolnar: not for me
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aaronpk maybe we can get joschi to do indiewebcamp iceland next year :)
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ben_thatmustbeme i am usually referencing things
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: could you archive "Mobile UI" from etherpad to the wiki? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/Schedule#Monday_March_14.2C_2016
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tantek sensiblemn: could you archive Indieweb Feed #Readers from etherpad http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/readers to the wiki: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/readers ?
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tantek mlncn: could you archive Drupal session from http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/drupal to the wiki: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/drupal ?
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tantek !tell aaronpk: could you archive Installers session from http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/installers to the wiki https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/installers ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [indieweb] "Just wishing @plowio would have a look at #indieweb principles" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/just-wishing-plowio-would-have-a-look-at-indieweb-principles
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@RikMende Just wishing @plowio would have a look at #indieweb principles & how much the site would gain by diving into it … https://www.rmendes.net/2016/just-wishing-plowio-would-have-a-look-at-indieweb-principles (twitter.com/_/status/709759115921231872)
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tantek rMdes_: interesting reference there re: http://blog.plow.io/2016/03/14/comments-with-muscle/
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tantek especially the markdownesque subset of **bold**, _italics_, >quote, @user, #anchor (not hashtag?), and &social (what does that mean?)
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rMdes_ they should dive in
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rMdes_ they are doing a nice job at hand curation of nice bits of information, I just wish they could have a look at webmentions etc..
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tantek rMdes_: have you experimented much with it? Do you know if "Reply to an individual comment." is hierarchical? like how many deep can you reply to a reply to a reply?
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tantek this is nice: "Edit or delete one of your comments (within 10 minutes)."
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tantek and for "Endorse an individual comment." I don't see the UI for it. Is it a flag? a thumb/heart like?
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rMdes_ it's all very well done
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rMdes_ you get a little avatar next to each story and by clicking the + you "endorse" that story
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tantek rMdes_: perhaps you could start a page on them?
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tantek what is Plow?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Plow" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GH
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rMdes_ tantek, http://prntscr.com/afkszl
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tantek I don't understand
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rMdes_ I havent played much with comments but i'll try and see how it behave over there
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tantek and feel free to start a page if you can summarize... Plow is ...
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rMdes_ ok
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rMdes_ on Plow what they call anchors are topics you like to get content from
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rMdes_ then it's the community that endorse things & allow quality content to surface at the top
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rMdes_ they improved a lot, compared to the last time I dived in
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tantek is it a comments silo?
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rMdes_ i think it is in some way, that's why if they would support indieweb we could comment and participate from our own sites
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rMdes_ tantek, the social thing they have is weird...you can &twitter or &facebook in your comments, it seems it syndicate there...but i'm not sure that's the deal
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Extending Press This in WordPress to support indieweb reply, like and repost by Daniel Nix" by Daniel Nix https://petermolnar.eu/press-this-indieweb/#comment-11631
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rMdes_ i dont see my comment on my twitter feed, so i'm not sure what's the point of &twitter from inside a comment form
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rMdes_ but they have a twitter bot that alert users when someone pick up an article from another user on another silo https://twitter.com/PrivacyTec_Plow/status/709759524362563585
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@PrivacyTec_Plow Get AMP'd: Here's what publishers need to know about Google's new plan to spe... https://plow.io/#get-ampd-heres-what-publishers-need-to-know-about-googles-new-plan-to-speed-up-your-website +1 @RikMende (twitter.com/_/status/709759524362563585)
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rMdes_ and it seems they do support multiple comment thread http://prntscr.com/afkynk
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@RikMende @plowio you are indeed but I wish you could support some of the building blocks stated here https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks #webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/709765872466960384)
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@RikMende @plowio just added you over here : https://indiewebcamp.com/Plow (twitter.com/_/status/709769049467723776)
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tantek thanks rMdes_ !
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tantek we should probably update that building blocks page a bit
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Loqi I agree
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tantek I think we've put our effort into describing how to be indieweb friendly: https://indiewebcamp.com/friendly
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tantek rMdes_: ^^^
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@RikMende @plowio fixed: you're pretty indie indeed :), but what about being indieweb-friendly? https://indiewebcamp.com/friendly #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/709770104351887360)
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tantek rMdes_: is that description of Plow copy/pasted from their website?
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rMdes_ that friendly link is way better indeed
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rMdes_ the first line yes
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tantek I quoted it because it sounded like it
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rMdes_ i'm not the best wiki editor I realise
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rMdes_ never done a lot of it, but i'll improve over time
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tantek if you could summarize the rest in your own words it would be better, since content on the wiki is supposed to be public domain (or your own contributions)
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tantek thank you!
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tantek we're all learning to be better wiki editors :)
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tantek that's what we're here for - to help each other improve :D
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tantek Thank you!
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snarfed hey IWC MIT, looks like the "Migrating Content from Silos" session yesterday didn't happen (much)?
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snarfed nothing in http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/migrate
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snarfed totally fine if so, just checking
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GWG Afternoon
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miklb voxpelli haven't had a chance to work on that Jekyll theme much, $work/life getting in the way, but it's still high on todo list
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voxpelli miklb: :)
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miklb I did see a couple of people at IWC MIT were looking to switch from octopress to Jekyll, was hoping to see more discussion on that front, haven't yet.
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voxpelli miklb: I'll probably work more on it with IWC Nürnberg as a target. Will you come to any of the German IWC:s?
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miklb virtually I would like to, but long trip from Florida :-D
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voxpelli Totally, didn't remember which side of the Atlantic you were on :)
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miklb everything is a long trip from FL to be honest.
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@AKNextChapter Plan to be at the webcamp in May! https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/709778716105306113)
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tantek miklb: can you help organize an IWC FL? Orlando?
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tantek There are definitely people interested in it!
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tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/Planning#Florida
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miklb tantek I could try. I'm in Tampa, but could reach out for connections in Orlando to try and secure a venue/etc
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rMdes_ tantek, when I get ride of the busy trial I'm on, I'll work on a getting one done in Brussels
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GWG Is that where aaronpk hacks a Magicband to check in to his website?
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aaronpk my site doesn't even support checkins yet
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 37 minutes ago: could you archive Installers session from http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/installers to the wiki https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/installers ? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458054204705
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tantek checkins? what about chickens?
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GWG aaronpk, just thinking of the clock
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GWG https://blog.adafruit.com/2015/05/22/hacking-the-magicbands-from-disney-piday-raspberrypi-raspberry_pi/
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Loqi May 22, 2015 AT 1:00 pm
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@miklb Calling #Florida folks interested in #indieweb Who would be up for helping organize a Central FL IWC? Orlando? https://indiewebcamp.com/Planning#Florida (twitter.com/_/status/709782008873021441)
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tantek miklb++ thank you!
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Loqi miklb has 2 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme i officially give up on cordova
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ben_thatmustbeme any documentation you might find is swamped in older versions, other apps that build on cordova, ios only, or dead plugins that aren't even supported anymore
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miklb what is cordova?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cordova" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GJ
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ben_thatmustbeme lol tantek, nice try to summon benwerd
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ben_thatmustbeme what is a chicken
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Loqi chicken is a type of post supported by idno https://indiewebcamp.com/chicken
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@AKNextChapter Finding forced #IndieAuth - https://indieauth.com/ extemely annoying. I really don't want to connect all my social media accounts. (twitter.com/_/status/709786773635858433)
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miklb is there a template for User pages? I'm not good @ wiki editing/formatting, would be nice to have something to build off of.
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aaronpk miklb: i'd just click around the https://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people page until you find one you like then copy it
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Loqi [indieweb] "This week in the #indieweb - http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-11.html via @indiewebcamp" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/this-week-in-the-indieweb---this-week2016-03-11html-via-indiewebcamp
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@RikMende This week in the #indieweb - http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-11.html via @indiewebcamp (https://www.rmendes.net/2016/this-week-in-the-indieweb---this-week2016-03-11html-via-indiewebcamp) (twitter.com/_/status/709789637590421504)
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gRegorLove What is Apache Cordova?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Apache Cordova" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GK
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gRegorLove Apache Cordova is a mobile app development framework that allows you to develop apps using HTML, CSS, and Javascript instead of platform-specific APIs.
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loqi.me created /Apache_Cordova (+178) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458062037570 and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove What is Cordova?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Cordova" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GL
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gRegorLove Cordova is /Apache_Cordova
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loqi.me created /Cordova (+27) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458062113324 and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: ...
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ben_thatmustbeme what is a snark?
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Loqi snark is an experimental post type to denote a sarcastic post https://indiewebcamp.com/snark
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gregorlove.com edited /MobilePub (+4) "link Cordova" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Apache_Cordova (+65) "IndieWeb Examples, See Also" (view diff)
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miklb.com created /User:Miklb.com (+710) "Created page with "= Michael Bishop, @miklb = Sometimes chef, sometimes WordPress developer, all the time web curious. == Working on == === Community projects === Early stages of a [[Jekyll]..."" (view diff)
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miklb :-(
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miklb.com edited /Planning (+71) "/* Florida */" (view diff)
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aaronpk kylewm: is silo.pub intending to post photos into a silo.pub album on facebook?
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kylewm no
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aaronpk i guess then i have a bug report?
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tantek.com edited /article (+961) "Silo Examples, blogger, facebook, medium" (view diff)
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kylewm Bridgy did something to avoid posing to a default album?
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snarfed kylewm: yes, worked surprisingly well. https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/571
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kylewm https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/571
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kylewm haha
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snarfed :P
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kylewm snarfed: I think I'm seeing Bridgy cache a webmention endpoint for a 404 page
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kylewm going to #bridgy
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tantek.com edited /article (+171) "/* Facebook */" (view diff)
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snarfed cleverdevil: kylewm: as a short term workaround, clicking the retry button on any response will clear the cached endopint
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cleverdevil still failing for me, and I am guessing that my slightly older version of the Known FB plugin was the culprit.
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kylewm snarfed: it fetches the bad URL and caches the error in the same propagation task
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kylewm as the good URL, so clearing doesn't help :/
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snarfed :/ sigh
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kylewm is amused we are having this conversation across three irc channels
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@skddc .@lanyrd is still in read-only mode, so basically dead. What to use next? Maybe sth more like #indieweb until blockchain (d)apps are viable? (twitter.com/_/status/709804572919906304)
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snarfed heh true
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gRegorLove What is lanyrd?
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Loqi Lanyrd is an event silo focused on conferences https://indiewebcamp.com/Lanyrd
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tantek hello gRegorLove !
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gRegorLove Hi tantek o/
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tantek getting distracted documenting things
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tantek e.g. https://indiewebcamp.com/article#Silo_Examples
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tantek who is cleverdevil?
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Loqi http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Cleverdevil.io
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tantek what is Attending?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Attending" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GM
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tantek Attending is attending.io, an event silo with a simple, minimal UX for publishing very nice looking [[event]] pages.
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loqi.me created /Attending (+143) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458066308815 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek snarfed, kylewm heads-up: new pretty-looking event silo (with nice RSVP UI) that looks like it may have an API for creating events!
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tantek.com edited /Attending (+94) "example, see also" (view diff)
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kylewm what ever happened to Upcoming.io
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raucao kylewm: was shut down by yahoo iirc
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miklb kylewm I think Waxpancake is rebooting it. He did a Kickstarter for it
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kylewm right
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raucao i think it's easy to convince event website creators to add some microformats if there's a site that will actually make use of them
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raucao like a lanyrd
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kylewm but that was like 2 years ago?
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raucao long time for sure :)
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miklb he tweeted yesterday about working on it
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tantek.com edited /event (+158) "/* Silo Examples */ Attending" (view diff)
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tantek raucao - convincing them on the publishing side is not too hard
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tantek it's the "create" API that's hard to get apparently
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raucao yer
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tantek kylewm: yes, we're all rooting for Upcoming for sure
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kylewm s/Upcoming.io/Upcoming.org
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tantek but for now, Attending looks quite sweet
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tantek both from a "make indie events as pretty as" perspective
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tantek and to POSSE to
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raucao i don't see anything there. lanyrd is a directory, which is the important part
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raucao just see "make a site like this"
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raucao and an event example page
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gRegorLove I don't have an account, but Lanyrd doesn't seem to be in read-only mode? Add event form shows up.
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gRegorLove Current and future conferences are listed
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tantek raucao huh? Lanyrd has actual event content, not just a "directory"
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tantek The problem with automatic updates: https://twitter.com/stef/status/709168666361913344
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@stef When the startup you’re using breaks everything and you want to have your own “rollback” command as a user. (twitter.com/_/status/709168666361913344)
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KartikPrabhu oops
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raucao tantek: yes, but it's focussed on being a directory
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raucao and that's where its value lies imo
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raucao usually people use the "url" to link to something that has more content and is more branded
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raucao external event url i mean
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tantek.com edited /Attending (+312) "API hopefulness, reach out to creator as a next step" (view diff)
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@plowio RT @RikMende @plowio just added you over here : https://indiewebcamp.com/Plow (twitter.com/_/status/709818842827067392)
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barnabywalters I find the assertion that Attending.io is “pretty” interesting
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barnabywalters I find the example linked from /Attending to be very confusing
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barnabywalters for some reason using this standard “Hero image” layout for an event makes it very hard for me to see the page as representing an event
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barnabywalters and I can’t really skim information from it quickly
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tantek I think the point of that kind of design is to provoke an emotional response more than be skimmable
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tantek with the (reasonable) presumption that provoking a positive emotional reaction is more likely to get a response than being skimmable
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gRegorLove What's Hero image?
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Loqi [indieweb] "indieweb/date-formatter (0.3.0)" by Aaron Parecki https://packagist.org/packages/indieweb/date-formatter
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barnabywalters I’m all for emotional response, but they put the vital bits of information right in the middle of the emotional image banner thingy
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barnabywalters and nowhere else
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tantek that is odd
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tantek anyway - feel free to expand /Attending accordingly!
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barnabywalters I can’t really articulate why but I find the design very busy and feel like I really have to work to understand what it’s trying to tell me
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barnabywalters I would wikify the thoughts if I could express them, but can’t, so thought I’d try dumping them here to see if anyone else had any insights :)
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gRegorLove Is "Hero image" the label for when you have a full-page image at the top?
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barnabywalters gRegorLove: “hero image” is I think the term Bootstrap uses for these big blurry arty cover image banners behind text which are a bit of a design trend at the moment
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gRegorLove Gotcha
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barnabywalters I don’t know if this is a widely used term, maybe there’s a better one
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aaronpk i think the one on attending is a "cover photo"
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barnabywalters yeah maybe cover photo is better
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gRegorLove What is cover photo?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "cover photo" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GN
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barnabywalters certainly that’s what twitter, fb etc use to refer to these photos at the top of streams
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aaronpk wat
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barnabywalters for me this trend of having arty blurry emotional-response images which take up the whole of a screen is a subtly different pattern
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barnabywalters but I’m happy to use “cover photo” unless we find a better term
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barnabywalters I consider the panorama at the top of my personal site a “cover photo” as well
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aaronpk oh like when it's intentionally taking over the full first page?
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aaronpk "page"
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aaronpk "above the fold"
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barnabywalters but it’s very different to what’s going on on e.g. https://attending.io/events/weshapetech
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barnabywalters yeah, an intentional whole screenful
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miklb Medium popularizes that as well
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aaronpk yeah that's definitely different than a cover photo
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barnabywalters cover photos on fb, twitter and my site don’t intentionally take up a whole screenful, and don’t have much content over them
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barnabywalters on Attending.io almost *all* of the important content is over the photo, which is one of my complaints about it ;)
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gRegorLove Some cover photos don't even span the full browser width
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sknebel poking around stackoverflow&co, "hero image" seems to be a good term for it
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barnabywalters gRegorLove: true. on my site I made vertical gradients which roughly match the image, so if the screen is too wide the space is filled with something which more-or-less fits
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[oliverpattison] hero images and cover photos aren’t the same thing although they might be the same size – hero images have their roots in advertising and product design, while cover photos are more of a UI element in sites that feature user generated content
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[oliverpattison] for some sites that is a fine distinction and may overlap, of course
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@RikMende @plowio my first tweet was because I wanted to reply with my own website to some of your content. but couldn't. hence we love #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/709823506272354305)
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kylewm Check out @potch's Tweet: https://twitter.com/potch/status/709627630757130240?s=09
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@potch <HERO IMAGE> THIS IS EVERY WEBSITE ♞ THREE | ☞ THINGS | ♥ HERE I HATE THAT LAYPERSONS CAN EASILY MAKE SOMETHING NICE WHAT AM I AFRAID OF (twitter.com/_/status/709627630757130240)
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barnabywalters kylewm: lol
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barnabywalters I think my issue with the use of this pattern on Attending.io is that, much like ads, I’ve somehow trained myself to skip over these hero images
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tantek did anyone look up what they're called in the *UI* of these silos?!?
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tantek barnabywalters et al stop guessing and just look at silo profile editing UIs
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tantek then screenshot them
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tantek then upload those screenshots to the silo pages on the wiki
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tantek hero / cover / header etc.
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[oliverpattison] Twitter calls a cover image a header photo
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barnabywalters tantek: we already established that the silo pattern is different from this design pattern
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tantek this is my point
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barnabywalters but this is nonetheless a good thing to document
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barnabywalters I’ll start a page
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tantek barnabywalters: if you haven't documented it, you haven't "established" it
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tantek what is a header photo?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "header photo" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GP
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tantek what is featured
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Loqi featured is a proposed mf2 property (typically as u-featured) for h-entry that indicates a representative image for a primarily textual post https://indiewebcamp.com/featured
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barnabywalters we agreed on a thing in IRC, that’s enough for me :)
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barnabywalters ha ha ha
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barnabywalters semantic leak
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tantek barnabywalters: it's not enough for you because you will forget it
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tantek and you won't be able to find it
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tantek and thus it will become unestablished for you as well
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barnabywalters tantek: I know, hence now wikifying :)
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[oliverpattison] latest version of Google Plus refuses to name it in its UI, but its aria label is “cover photo”
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tantek right, this is why step one is to screenshot these silo UIs, and document their terms on their pages e.g. /Twitter /Google+ etc.
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barnabywalters a header photo is a landscape image often shown at the top of a profile or stream
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loqi.me created /header_photo (+106) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458070305129 and dfn added by barnabywalters" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek THEN step 2 is to see if there's a pattern in the naming
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@aaronpk @plowio @RikMende In fact there is! See http://indiewebcamp.com/friendly for some ideas (twitter.com/_/status/709824929659691009)
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Loqi [mention] Aaron Parecki commented '@plowio @RikMende In fact there is! See http://indiewebcamp.com/friendly for som...' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/friendly (https://aaronparecki.com/2016/03/15/13/)
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@RikMende RT @aaronpk @plowio @RikMende In fact there is! See http://indiewebcamp.com/friendly for some ideas (twitter.com/_/status/709824989931970560)
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Loqi [bridgy] Aaron Parecki replied '@plowio @RikMende In fact there is! See indiewebcamp.com/friendly for some ideas' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/709824929659691009)
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Loqi [bridgy] PlowBorg replied '@RikMende Wonderful - Thank you!' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Plow (https://twitter.com/plowio/status/709818878659006464)
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Loqi [bridgy] Rick Mendes replied '@plowio precisely why I hit back at you... I think this is the continuity of wha...' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/709822606552256513)
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Loqi [bridgy] PlowBorg replied '@RikMende Are there ways that the ‘friendly’ class of integrations can help our ...' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/plowio/status/709823048942284800)
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Loqi [bridgy] PlowBorg replied '@RikMende Ah this is interesting. You don’t mean ‘indie’ in the general sense....' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/plowio/status/709817410442944513)
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Loqi [bridgy] Rick Mendes replied '@plowio that's a good question for @aaronpk @t and @benwerd' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/709824199058128896)
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Loqi [bridgy] Rick Mendes replied '@plowio my first tweet was because I wanted to reply with my own website to some...' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Category:building-blocks (https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/709823506272354305)
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Loqi [bridgy] Aaron Parecki replied '@plowio @RikMende In fact there is! See indiewebcamp.com/friendly for some ideas' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/friendly (https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/709824929659691009)
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aaronpk whoa hahahaha
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barnabywalters ugh, now I have to log in to facebook.com and twitter.com to screenshot their UIs
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[oliverpattison] @barnabywalters https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10834152/2016-03-15%2015.36.48.png this will save you a minute for the Twitter one
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[oliverpattison] this will save you a minute for the Twitter one
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@AKNextChapter @voxpelli I am not trying to add something to my own site but I'm supposed to log on somewhere where the only option seem to be IndieAuth? (twitter.com/_/status/709826330792206337)
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aaronpk voxpelli: what's she talking about?
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voxpelli aaronpk: not really sure, just saw that she had an issue with IndieAuth
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aaronpk yeah i can't actually tell what her issue is
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Screen Shot 2016-03-15 at 20.39.58.png]]""
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Screen Shot 2016-03-15 at 20.47.35.png]]""
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Screen Shot 2016-03-15 at 20.47.44.png]]""
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snarfed almost demo time at MIT?
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aaronpk ALMOST
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gRegorLove voxpelli, aaronpk: Sounds like she's talking about logging in to the RSVP for IWC. https://twitter.com/AKNextChapter/status/709778716105306113
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@AKNextChapter Plan to be at the webcamp in May! https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/709778716105306113)
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aaronpk ahh
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voxpelli right, that can probably be it
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Screen Shot 2016-03-15 at 20.49.42.png]]""
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aaronpk wonder what her interest in IWC is if she claims she is not trying to add something to her site ;)
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aaronpk I will find out in May!
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gRegorLove Which I think is why Eventbrite and other, easier RSVP systems have been used for other IWC
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aaronpk iirc that one also has a non-wiki RSVP
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aaronpk yes
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aaronpk https://ti.to/beyondtellerrand/duesseldorf-2016/with/vog-9jmlz08
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gRegorLove I don't see it linked on that page
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aaronpk we still encourage you to add yourself to the wiki for those, however that is not the "official" rsvp
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aaronpk it's right at the top
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aaronpk under "register"
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gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Guest_List#Official_Guest_List
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /header_photo (+1692) "Stubbed article with indieweb examples, silo examples" (view diff)
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aaronpk yeah that one
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KevinMarks is there a demoers list so I can get my noterlive ready?
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barnabywalters ^^^ stubbed header_photo, feel free to add more details, indieweb examples, silo examples etc
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gRegorLove Oh, it's a redirect
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aaronpk KevinMarks: good question! i will go around and make a list
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gRegorLove Re: hero image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_image
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barnabywalters oh, so apparently those images are large. can we set a default img {max-width: 100%} and not have the width/height hardcoded into the <img> element?
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snarfed aaronpk: mini remote demo: bridgy's new api! https://brid.gy/about#api
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snarfed for example, you could show http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https://brid.gy/instagram/snarfed next to https://brid.gy/instagram/snarfed
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snarfed (not a big thing, but fun)
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KevinMarks google calls them hero images too: https://www.google.com/design/spec/style/imagery.html#imagery-ui-integration
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gRegorLove snarfed++
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Loqi snarfed has 206 karma
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KevinMarks that was odd https://www.google.com/design/spec/style/imagery.html#Hero%20images gets rewritten by the page to have its anchor at the subhead above
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snarfed silly question, will the demos be live streamed?
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snarfed the video stream link on http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT goes to yesterday's
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aaronpk KevinMarks: http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/Demos
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aaronpk snarfed: yes! setting up stream now
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snarfed cool!
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KevinMarks hm, so I need to get twitter handles
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aaronpk KevinMarks: crap
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tantek are they not on the Guest List?
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KevinMarks np, I can do it
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aaronpk well hopefully you can find them from their sites
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aaronpk okay remote people, youtube URL is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWCfS9_TU8 but it's paused until we start
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KevinMarks freekurt.com is not resolving
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tantek got some minor stuff working
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KevinMarks mcclaren.net also is a holding page
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KevinMarks http://mcclearen.net ?
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sensiblemn yeah, i can't get it to work
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sensiblemn i had it working
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sensiblemn i'm using the default nginx known configs
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shevski hellooo
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KevinMarks I'm seeing apache pages
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KevinMarks hello Irina
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tantek hello shevski !!!!
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tantek now add yourself to indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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KevinMarks so maybe you have apache and nginx running? (someone her will know - bear maybe?
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shevski hello KevinMarks :)
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KevinMarks I hear a sandro
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tantek o/ KevinMarks
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: Hello Indiewebcamp MIT - we're going to do demos now (twitter.com/_/status/709838069734764551)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: Kevin is going to livetweet this so if you have a phone you may get bombarded with @ mentions (twitter.com/_/status/709838159845199873)
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tantek and we're live!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I'm Sandro Hawke I have lots of websites including http://hawke.org (twitter.com/_/status/709838338144993280)
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tantek sandro: I migrated stuff from Twitter to my site!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: what stops me from having a website is that I have lots of different websites (twitter.com/_/status/709838405551702017)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I migrated all my tweets from twitter to my w3 site http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ (twitter.com/_/status/709838513194344450)
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tantek shevski: did /irc-people make sense? how to edit?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: on https://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/blog/ I load all my tweets from my export via javascript (twitter.com/_/status/709838753104326657)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: Hello Indiewebcamp MIT - we're going to do demos now (twitter.com/_/status/709838847199334400)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: Kevin is going to livetweet this so if you have a phone you may get bombarded with @ mentions (twitter.com/_/status/709838849363542016)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I'm Sandro Hawke I have lots of websites including http://hawke.org (twitter.com/_/status/709838851183747072)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: what stops me from having a website is that I have lots of different websites (twitter.com/_/status/709838852266049537)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I migrated all my tweets from twitter to my w3 site http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ (twitter.com/_/status/709838855852183552)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: twitters data export is very nice, especially compared to facebook which I couldn't make sense of (twitter.com/_/status/709838887653392385)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: there is metadata in the link saying what the real link is so I converted it to use that (twitter.com/_/status/709839071627976704)
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KevinMarks sandro - did you look at the code they provide? I have mine up at kevinmarks.com/tweets
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@LukasRosenstock "Lychee" looks like an interesting and beautiful tool for those who want to manage photos on their #indieweb site: http://lychee.electerious.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/709839351555989504)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Cassie: I'm Cassie, my main site is https://t.co/MztY4shdQt, but I have been working on sensible.mn (twitter.com/_/status/709839532380782593)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Cassie: the blog is still running known, but the pages are now in wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/709839588093771777)
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miklb I looked at Lychee yesterday. There's a jekyll plugin that integrates with it already.
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miklb oops, that was a tweet. sorry
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KevinMarks aaronpk: stream died
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aaronpk we're back
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KevinMarks no sound
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aaronpk fixed
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tantek Hello future generations
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tantek Some day you will want to stay in your house
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tantek or have parents who want to stay in their house
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KevinMarks I see annbass but can't hear
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tantek I am going to show you how you can help
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gRegorLove no audio here either, after refresh
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ben_thatmustbeme she is showing off her site annbass.net
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KevinMarks reloaded, still no sound
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ben_thatmustbeme finally got it up and running
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ben_thatmustbeme after a number of times trying in the past
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gRegorLove Looks like Known?
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ben_thatmustbeme got it hooked up to twiitter
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aaronpk freaking hangouts
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @annbass: I got my own site http://annbass.net up and running on Known, and hooked up to twitter @annbass (twitter.com/_/status/709840567082033152)
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KevinMarks yay sound
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aaronpk sound should be back
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Loqi :D
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ben_thatmustbeme known installed on dreamhost
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aaronpk now chrome crashed again
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gRegorLove audio back
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aaronpk i'm gonna do this from my own laptop lol
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gRegorLove and video gone
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ben_thatmustbeme he is working on it now
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ben_thatmustbeme changing laptops
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gRegorLove "you can have video or audio, but not both" - google
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gRegorLove :)
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aaronpk and back?
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KevinMarks but silent
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aaronpk wahhht
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miklb refresh got sound here
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gRegorLove I have av!
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KevinMarks I have sound now'
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KevinMarks after opening in a different browser
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @annbass: I'm running my own instance of https://withknown.com/ on dreamhost (twitter.com/_/status/709841875730087936)
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KevinMarks all the video connectors
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KevinMarks yes I cna hear you
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tantek great, I'm going to prompt with questions from what she said before
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KevinMarks I'm waving o/
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @annbass: I set up my own site so people can learn how to keep their own parent at home when they need assistance (twitter.com/_/status/709842397421764608)
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myfreeweb oh nice, there's an event livestream! right after i pushed an update to my website :D i can hear sound too
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @annbass: I'm using known and have brid.gy set up to connect to twitter (twitter.com/_/status/709842569606402048)
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aaronpk livestream URL again is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWCfS9_TU8
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @annbass: I have a lot of posts to write, and I need to organise them, probably using tags (twitter.com/_/status/709842942257733632)
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snarfed heh, irc > tweets, .gy TLD is auto linked here but not on twitter :P
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I'm Ben and my site is https://ben.thatmustbe.me if you got ot https://ben.thatmustbe.us it picks a random ben for you (twitter.com/_/status/709843229731110912)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I got fed up with Cordova's complete lack of documentation so worked on my web posting UI instead (twitter.com/_/status/709843342507556864)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I added offline storage of drafts so I can edit things offline and then submit the stored post when I get online (twitter.com/_/status/709843528306843649)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I can save multiple offline posts, and it stores the time when you hit save, not when you posted (twitter.com/_/status/709843700973752320)
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KevinMarks who did sandro say left early adn what is their url?
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gRegorLove Who's demoing and url?
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aaronpk Sandro is demoing for Satra
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aaronpk satra.cogitatum.org
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: satra had to leave early, but http://satra.cogitatum.org is built on the SoLiD platform (twitter.com/_/status/709844416639401985)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: it should allow other people to log in, but I don't have certificates. it looks pretty (twitter.com/_/status/709844564866166784)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I'm tantek of http://tantek.com and I spent most of indiewebcamp documenting events and how to model them (twitter.com/_/status/709844886346977281)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I wanted to model birthdays in a useful way as that is a strong case for facebook so we can make them distributed (twitter.com/_/status/709845042312167425)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: thre is information at http://indiewebcamp.com/birthday on our thinking on how to share these (twitter.com/_/status/709845148524478464)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: we also spent time working out how to model events with invitations, and the ui is tricky to get right (twitter.com/_/status/709845261200310272)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: if anyone has libraries for simple natural language event parsing I'd like to hear about them (twitter.com/_/status/709845352967446530)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I took time to document how facebook's event mobile UI which has regressed from 2014 http://indiewebcamp.com/event#Facebook (twitter.com/_/status/709845572438642688)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I have changed how photos work on my site - I want interactions on both silo copies to come to one post (twitter.com/_/status/709845987217575941)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: before I couldn't do multiple copies to the same silo; now there are 2 of them (twitter.com/_/status/709846115995275264)
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shevski.com created /User:Shevski.com (+33) "Created page with "Hi, my name is Irina Bolychevsky."" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: If it's the same content, I want it to be the same permalink (twitter.com/_/status/709846284698591234)
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KevinMarks I found Known will now let you have multiple tweets fro one post, as you correct typos
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KevinMarks eg http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/well-its-only-gregorian-pi-day-we-need-to-wait
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Well, it's only Gregorian Pi day, we need to wait until 3141-59 for ISO 8601 Pi day
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@Talya RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @t: If it's the same content, I want it to be the same permalink (twitter.com/_/status/709846444862087168)
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KevinMarks has 2 tweets linked and backfeed from both
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KevinMarks who's up?
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aaronpk jessica
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tantek @-name?
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@domenicoperri IndieWebCamp MIT 2016 https://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/709846724681015296)
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KevinMarks url?
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aaronpk oh she didn't give me one, she's demoing locally
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KevinMarks she has one from last iwc tho?
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@domenicoperri 2016/MIT - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/709846889806561289)
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ben_thatmustbeme this is her first IWC
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KevinMarks oh
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tantek and she got setup with Drupal!
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ben_thatmustbeme indeed!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Jessica: I manage a website for a band, and I get it set up on Drupal, moving from Joomla (twitter.com/_/status/709847146871263232)
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@diddleapp RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @t: before I couldn't do multiple copies to the same silo; now there are 2 of them (twitter.com/_/status/709847177120641025)
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@Teckreview RT @kevinmarks #indieweb @t: before I couldn't do multiple copies to the same silo; now there are 2 of them (twitter.com/_/status/709847178689318912)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Jessica: I found it really easy to put photos up with a block of text and customise it (twitter.com/_/status/709847702729785345)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I'm Aaron of https://aaronparecki.com/ - I had intended to work onevent presentation and event UI (twitter.com/_/status/709848138022932480)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: but i got event presentation working (twitter.com/_/status/709848175402741760)
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KevinMarks url for events?
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronparecki.com/events
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: on https://aaronparecki.com/events I have events show for multi-day events - it show start time, location and city (twitter.com/_/status/709848502415839232)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: if you click on an event you see more information, including RSVPs and mentions eg https://aaronparecki.com/2016/03/14/1/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/709848729155719168)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: the other thing I got working last night was getting iOS share action to behave (twitter.com/_/status/709848867966160896)
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gRegorLove I don't see that photo in Woodwind
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gRegorLove nvm, polled again and it's there.
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kylewm lol
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: so this post was sent from my iphone via a share extension to micropub: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/03/15/2/ (twitter.com/_/status/709849271718248448)
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tantek mlncn: do you remember which previous IndieWebCamps had Drupal sessions? Last time or two times ago here in Cambridge maybe? If you can remember, add them to https://indiewebcamp.com/Drupal#Sessions
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: now I'm going to try a pano, just to make it harder (twitter.com/_/status/709849342446854144)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: what I learned last night was that id didn't work because the images were so big and I hit memory limits on iOS (twitter.com/_/status/709849469366493187)
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tantek mlncn: oh just saw one in the see also
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I found that I need to set the size of the viewport smaller so it doesn't run out of memory (twitter.com/_/status/709849815560097792)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I made a service to send notification to SoLiD servers, which is like webmentions but can have more data (twitter.com/_/status/709850242137628672)
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KevinMarks url for hers or dmitri's please
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I send a message to Dmitri from my site, the message gets stored in his inbox, and this reader shows it (twitter.com/_/status/709850571583451136)
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aaronpk dmitri is: https://dzagidulin.databox.me and http://computingjoy.com
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rhiaro apps.rhiaro.co.uk/errol
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Loqi rhiaro: tantek left you a message 1 day, 3 hours ago: looks like Edinburgh 2015 sessions never got archived from Etherpads to the wiki - (e.g. Events). https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Edinburgh Could you create wiki pages for each of those and copy the Etherpads into them? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-14/line/1457976536099
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: I'm particuarly happy with this client becaude it works with javascript off, unlike the other SoLiD apps (twitter.com/_/status/709850744455872512)
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KevinMarks who's up now?
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rhiaro Also KevinMarks SoLiD is Solid now
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aaronpk this is dmitri
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rhiaro This is Dmitri
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rhiaro: my page is http://apps.rhiaro.co.uk/errol/ and dmitri's is https://dzagidulin.databox.me (twitter.com/_/status/709850888131747842)
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rhiaro Kevinmarks https!
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KevinMarks I hoope you redirect
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KevinMarks :(
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Dmitri: I have been the cobbler with no shoes as I work on web apps but I din't have my own site (twitter.com/_/status/709851152498749442)
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KevinMarks I get 401 at https://dzagidulin.databox.me
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rhiaro His root must be access protected
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KevinMarks url for a post?
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rhiaro What he's presenting now is local host
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KevinMarks ah
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gRegorLove The editor he's referring to in Ghost: https://github.com/timsayshey/Ghost-Markdown-Editor
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kylewm this is Ghost? I don't think it has any code in common with Wordpress
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KevinMarks just the client app is in node, the server is still in php
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KevinMarks (for wp)
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kylewm (corrections dept/peanut gallery weighing in)
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KevinMarks I didn't manage to sumamrize that well
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Dmitri: I am setting up a wordpress site, but I have it locally now (twitter.com/_/status/709852040210587650)
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aaronpk marty up now
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tantek mcclearen.net
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tantek running WordPress
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Marty: I'm Marty McClearen, I've spent most of the day getting wordpress set up on http://mcclearen.net/ (twitter.com/_/status/709852611172823043)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Marty: I've had this domain for a while and am glad to get it working, next is to add plugins (twitter.com/_/status/709852743876386823)
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tantek up next @shevski
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @shevski: I have had a website for really long time, but the content is 2 years out of date http://shevski.com (twitter.com/_/status/709852993710133248)
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Nissyen I have to say, from my twitter feed it looks like Kevin Marks has multiple personalities.
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Loqi Nissyen: tantek left you a message on 10/8 at 5:22pm: since you had suggestions in IRC for improving how our IWC planning pages were organized, what do you think of /Planning for general cross-camp planning, and /YYYY/City/Planning for planning specific to each city? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-10-08/line/1444350137817
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @shevski: the content is marked up with microformats, and linked so I can log into indiewebcamp with my site (twitter.com/_/status/709853130503143425)
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codenamedmitri heh, sorry for the confusion. I was setting up Ghost at http://computingjoy.com/ . And yeah, Ghost doesn't share code with WordPress, it was a philosphical departure / fork of wordpress. (got started as a Kickstarter, etc)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @shevski: and I set up a suer page on the wiki at http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Shevski.com (twitter.com/_/status/709853371000365056)
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gRegorLove What was that URL she said? redecentralize...?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "that URL she said" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10GQ
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tantek s/suer/user
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @shevski: you should all check out http://redecentralize.org/ which is another of my projects (twitter.com/_/status/709853509626236928)
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aaronpk redecentralize.org
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KevinMarks who dis?
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tantek up next mlncn
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tantek set out to do the first webmention implementation for Drupal 8
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KevinMarks l/i ambiguity sucks
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kylewm oh that's awesome, i didn't connect the dots that shevski was the redecentralize.org person!
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tantek you make any kind of post, anyone should be able to comment by linking to it
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: I'm Benjamin - I was working on a webmention implementation for Drupal 8, which Jessica demoed (twitter.com/_/status/709853859234111488)
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shevski kylewm I am and there will be another conference this year (hopefully!)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: you make any kind of post, anyone should be able to comment by linking to it (twitter.com/_/status/709853919543992321)
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tantek kylewm: yes we're quite pleased to have shevski here at IndieWebCamp
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: Daniel got this working with Vinculum in Drupal 7, and I'm working on it for Drupal 8 (twitter.com/_/status/709854107264270336)
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shevski i need a forum for rdc.org after librelist broke :(
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shevski so any help on that appreciated
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shevski or mailing list
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shevski or something
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tantek shevski IRC?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: you can follow progress on this at https://www.drupal.org/project/vinculum (twitter.com/_/status/709854319026311173)
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miklb shevski I would check with discourse. They are pretty liberal is sharing that
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KevinMarks Known site? that's a good group discussion model
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tantek shevski: check it: https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-15/line/1458077432659
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Loqi [tantek] shevski IRC?
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KevinMarks withknown.com will host it for $6/mo or you cna self-host
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@kaikubasta TIL: There’s a W3C webmention working draft https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ (via @ePirat) (twitter.com/_/status/709854531153207298)
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tantek shevski: if you edit /irc-people and add yourself, and your home page / icon, it will show up in the IRC logs!
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KevinMarks who's up?
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@ePirat RT @kaikubasta TIL: There’s a W3C webmention working draft https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ (via @ePirat) (twitter.com/_/status/709854601432997888)
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tantek Kristof?
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tantek up now sensiblemn
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aaronpk kurt http://freekurt.com
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shevski tantek i didn't see the edit button on /irc-people
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tantek really?
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tantek should be in the same place as all the other pages
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aaronpk probably the http vs https thing
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aaronpk how do i fix this
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Kurt: I set up my own site on http://./warmup/ using Known, but I had config problems with nginx (twitter.com/_/status/709854923408732160)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Kurt: I get letsencrypt installed, and so will have a cert ready soon (twitter.com/_/status/709855014114762753)
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tantek shevski try https://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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shevski tantek oh it's because i'd been logged out
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KevinMarks url/ twitter for chris?
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aaronpk http://agaric.com
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shevski and logged in and logged out looks pretty similar...
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Loqi Agaric
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myfreeweb the whole Page Edit History Move Watch bar on the wiki is hard to see tbh, it's small and at the bottom
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: We are talking about platform cooperativism (twitter.com/_/status/709855347016658944)
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myfreeweb oh there's one at the top as well, right
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tantek (is that like how airbnb has both renters and home owners on there?)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: so what if you had something like Uber but the drivers had ownership and a login on the platform (twitter.com/_/status/709855461332393984)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: when it comes to indiewebcamp there are barriers to entry for owning a domain name and paying for hosting (twitter.com/_/status/709855659324477441)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: an example of platform cooperativism would be something like https://withknown.com/ where you can offer logins (twitter.com/_/status/709855829567139840)
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tantek mlncn: link missing a space maybe?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: another example would be eager on Drupal (twitter.com/_/status/709855897560948737)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: I am a member of Agaric, http://agaric.com a worker owned cooperative with 5 owners at the moment (twitter.com/_/status/709856043799543808)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: there is http://internetofownership.net/ which is collecting platforms that promote cooperatives (twitter.com/_/status/709856459278917633)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb Chris: we're also working on how to convert a startup like entity to members (twitter.com/_/status/709856623888625664)
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tantek Harry Halpin is speaking from the back of the room
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KevinMarks can he get nearer the mic?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: Thanks everybody for your demos (twitter.com/_/status/709856981390135298)
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mlncn tantek: and is the convention newest-first for recording past links?
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tantek mlncn: that's what I've been doing for sessions because the newest session is likely to have the latest on the subject
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mlncn ok
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: There's a lot going int he standards space at the moment, and we should agree on federation and syntax soon (twitter.com/_/status/709857284088848385)
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@ChrisAldrich #IndieWeb @kevinmarks @mlncn: What a coincidence, not just 20 minutes ago, I bookmarked this Drupal-related post! http://agaric.com/blogs/marking-drupals-blog-posts-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/709857303848030208)
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Loqi [indieweb] "#IndieWeb @kevinmarks @mlncn: What a coincidence, not just 20 minutes ago, I bookmarked this Drupal-related post! http://agaric.com/blogs/marking-drupals-blog-posts-indieweb" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/indieweb-kevinmarks-mlncn-what-a-coincidence-not-just-20-minutes
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: in the pre-indieweb era of federation there was a lot of concern about security and privacy eg Salmon (twitter.com/_/status/709857619880579074)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: We now have some cryptographers looking at the problem of communicating privately in distributed way (twitter.com/_/status/709857786834907136)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: one part is key exchange - how you show keys and share changes, and we have signed model with Merkle trees (twitter.com/_/status/709857966686650369)
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mlncn https://github.com/yahoo/coname
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: we're sponsoring a blockchain summerschool too (twitter.com/_/status/709858076199919617)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: and looking at a mix-network that is a Tor-like thing to prevent traffic monitoring (twitter.com/_/status/709858165773492224)
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KevinMarks no idea how to spell connex
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@wolcen Enjoyed sharing @indieweb about #platformcoop. The Aegir project is at http://www.aegirproject.org/ https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/709855897560948737 (twitter.com/_/status/709858232911732736)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @harryhalpin: I will try to get an indieweb enabled site up over the next day or two (twitter.com/_/status/709858472762982403)
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myfreeweb ooh, a dename successor-ish? i got a dename invite a while ago...
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myfreeweb KevinMarks: CONIKS, according to the readme at https://github.com/yahoo/coname
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kylewm nice demos everyone! good meetings and safe travels
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: thanks to everyone for coming, for MIT for hosting, and to NLNet and Sovrn for sponsoring food (twitter.com/_/status/709858838103658496)
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harry hey everyone
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harry I'll drop the contact info:
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harry http://nextleap.eu is the project website
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@ChrisAldrich #indieweb @kevinmarks If Jessica is watching, @warnermusic has a custom built drupal framework for their bands (twitter.com/_/status/709859064562364416)
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Loqi [indieweb] "#indieweb @kevinmarks If Jessica is watching, @warnermusic has a custom built drupal framework for their bands" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/indieweb-kevinmarks-if-jessica-is-watching-warnermusic-has-a-custom
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harryhalpin Rsearchers are George Danezis
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harryhalpin http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/
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harryhalpin (UCL)
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KevinMarks you want me to tweet these, or is the irc log ok?
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harryhalpin Karthik Bhargavan
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harryhalpin http://prosecco.gforge.inria.fr/personal/karthik/
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harryhalpin The Ph.D. students or researchers should be in touch shortly
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harryhalpin If you have any crypto questions, just ping me and cc them.
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harryhalpin http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin (not IndieWeb enabled yet!)
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harryhalpin The blockchain-based approach is here:
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harryhalpin https://github.com/yahoo/coname
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harryhalpin Maybe a bit heavyweight, but at least does logging
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harryhalpin See paper here:
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harryhalpin http://coniks.org
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harryhalpin Thanks!
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harryhalpin If you have any particular crypto questions re SalmonPub and spam prevention, this would be up their alley
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KevinMarks if you're using bitcoin, doesn't everyone have a keypair already?
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KevinMarks or is this 'blockchain' in the registry sense, not the mining sense?
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Loqi [indieweb] "#indieweb: @kevinmarks @rhiaro: Let Dimitri know there are a lot of us out here who can help him http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/indieweb-kevinmarks-rhiaro-let-dimitri-know-there-are-a-lot
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@ChrisAldrich #indieweb: @kevinmarks @rhiaro: Let Dimitri know there are a lot of us out here who can help him http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club (twitter.com/_/status/709860082075308032)
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Loqi [mention] http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/indieweb-kevinmarks-rhiaro-let-dimitri-know-there-are-a-lot commented '#indieweb: @kevinmarks @rhiaro: Let Dimitri know there are a lot of us out here ...' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club
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hongpong is there a good way to do antispam on the trackbacks / pingbacks / webmentions? that would be helpful
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hongpong we dont have anything antispam on vinculum yet and apparently mollom wont work since its for posts
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KevinMarks have you looked at /vouch ?
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aaronpk so far akismet and vouch are the two attempts
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KevinMarks not many implementations send vouch yet, we need to iterate on that
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hongpong i am not familiar with vouch kevinmarks
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kylewm what is vouch?
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Loqi The Vouch protocol is an anti-spam extension to Webmention. Webmention with Vouch depends on understanding Webmention https://indiewebcamp.com/Vouch
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aaronpk whyyyy are my photo posts broken oops
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kylewm hongpong^
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aaronpk i broke everything apparently, or it never worked to begin with, even though i posted a photo last night
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KevinMarks if you have a preexisting social graph or mentions cache, vouch should be easier to construct and send
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hongpong perfect thank you all , that is helpful indeed.. we dont want it to get overrun with spam of course :)
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@ChrisAldrich @mcclearen Let us know if you need help on that #indieweb WordPress site: http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club (twitter.com/_/status/709861024325718016)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@mcclearen Let us know if you need help on that #indieweb WordPress site: http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/mcclearen-let-us-know-if-you-need-help-on-that
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Loqi [mention] http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/mcclearen-let-us-know-if-you-need-help-on-that commented '@mcclearen Let us know if you need help on that #indieweb WordPress site: http:/...' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_Outreach_Club
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KevinMarks there is also the case of vouch where B has linked to A, and A can remind B of that fact
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@ChrisAldrich For those on twitter, there's a growing list of #indieweb proponents https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indieweb/members Let me know if I missed you from MIT today (twitter.com/_/status/709861676183478272)
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Loqi [indieweb] "For those on twitter, there's a growing list of #indieweb proponents https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/lists/indieweb/members Let me know if I missed you from MIT today" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/for-those-on-twitter-theres-a-growing-list-of-indieweb
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KevinMarks wow that plow.io hero image is pathological, when combined with translucent text
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KevinMarks oh, it's pulling ti fromt he articel
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Loqi [indieweb] "Plan for Drupal 8" by HongPong https://www.drupal.org/node/2687129
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KevinMarks still
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KevinMarks so plow.io is nuzzel but more confusing?
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@kevinmarks RT @wolcen Enjoyed sharing @indieweb about #platformcoop. The Aegir project is at http://www.aegirproject.org/ https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/709855897560948737 (twitter.com/_/status/709862869739778048)
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@annbass Huge thanks @rhiaro @sandhawke @dissolve333 @aaronpk for organizing & chairing #indiewebcamp MIT 2016! Great job! https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/709863718893412352)
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snarfed hongpong: also definitely start with existing anti-spam tools, eg akismet. they're generally mature and effective for wms as well as native comments
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@jkphl @voxpelli Welcome on board! \o/ Pls let me know if you need assistance w/ travelling & accommodation ... :) #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/709870648814911488)
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KevinMarks sorry tantek: http://www.wired.com/2016/03/instagram-will-soon-show-thinks-want-see/?mbid=social_twitter
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KevinMarks 'Instagram says that it will be reordering your feed to show you “the moments we believe you will care about the most” based on what the company expects your level of interest will be'
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@kevinmarks My notes from today's demos at IndieWeb Camp MIT http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampMIT2016-03.html (twitter.com/_/status/709880450483769348)
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Loqi [indieweb] "My notes from today's demos at IndieWeb Camp MIT http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewebcampMIT2016-03.html" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/my-notes-from-todays-demos-at-indieweb-camp-mit-indiewebcampmit2016-03html
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