#indiewebcamp 2016-04-04

2016-04-04 UTC
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snarfed no worries, i probably won't need that, i rarely debug by doing things against live accounts
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snarfed plus i won't get to it until a while after that, so feel free to do whatever
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tantek I figured it might be a weird case of public/private account toggling or something
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tantek because by all outside appearances it *should* work
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tantek (IG permalink URL is in the feed as a u-syndication etc.)
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snarfed maybe! although the rest worked ok
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snarfed i have all the logs and data, so no worries
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tantek hmm - there were more that didn't work
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tantek I'll pop a few to the top
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snarfed lol ok
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tantek yes it's weird that *some* worked
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tantek is still paging backwards in time
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tantek found a bunch of old "No webmention targets" errors for responses from before he took his Instagram account private
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@ThemeHackers #biz #growthhacking #wordpress Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716786647283679233)
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@AppitySnacks RT @ThemeHackers #biz #growthhacking #wordpress Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716787795247939585)
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@ThemeIsle Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress - Trackbacks, pingbacks, and webmentions are all ways to l... http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716790217571770368)
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@DigestWordpress RT @ThemeHackers #biz #growthhacking #wordpress Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716790370772738048)
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@emilypowell647 Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress - Wouldn’t it be great it there was a standardized way to ... http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716790445796417537)
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@sendthruhq RT @ThemeHackers #biz #growthhacking #wordpress Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress https://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716790697467191296)
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tantek is hopefully giving snarfed tons of Bridgy Backfeed Instagram error cases to take a look at
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tantek ok AFAIK Bridgy Backfeed was not working at all for my site / Instagram back in December
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Loqi [indieweb] "An Annotated Domain of One’s Own" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/an-annotated-domain-of-ones-own
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tantek ok that ought to do it. dozens (if not hundreds) of "No webmention targets" Bridgy Backfeed to Instagram error cases at the top of https://brid.gy/instagram/tantek#responses (and dozens of pages later)
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tantek I'll reset things tomorrow morning
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tantek (home page # of recent updates, IG private account)
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tantek (perhaps more "not found" errors because it's already 4/04 in UTC?)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2016-04-03-fb-add-featured-photos.png]]""
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tantek.com edited /featured_photos (+156) "/* Facebook */ big prompt is replaced small prompt eventually" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /location-of (+231) "document why location-of distinct from edit post" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /edit (+48) "see also other types of posts which effectively suggest edits to the original post - properties other than content" (view diff)
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Loqi [indieweb] "I found your post through the POSSE'd version on Medium, so cheers for discovery through syndication! But since neither your nor I would "own" this" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/i-found-your-post-through-the-possed-version-on-medium
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snarfed !tell tantek just fyi, your dec (and earlier) 2015 missing instagram backfeed was due to https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/584
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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miklb hmm. Wonder why my webmentions are re-sending. Hadn't seen that before.
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miklb it's like all of a sudden not respecting the cached sent file
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miklb aaronpk you run webmention.io?
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[aaronpk] Yes
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[aaronpk] What do you mean re-sending?
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miklb I'm using a Rakefile to send to webmention.io. I figured it out I think. I switched to https and I think that caused my cached sent mentions to resend on old posts
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miklb attempt to notify?
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[aaronpk] I'm not sure what that has to do with webmention.io? It only receives webmentions
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miklb well, they are internal links so it's sending mentions that then ping webmention.io to notify me.
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miklb believes that is what is happening
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[aaronpk] You delegate your webmention receiving to webmention.io?
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miklb yes
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miklb so because I switched to https those links were not in my cache of sent. Sorry to confuse
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[aaronpk] I guess I'm not really sure what the problem is. What are you expecting to happen?
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miklb I was worried that I was hammering webmention.io and less concerned why my script was resending mentions
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miklb but now I see what was happening and they won't send again on a new build
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@dipakcgajjar Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ #WordPressTips (twitter.com/_/status/716843978222661632)
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@ElenorFike RT @dipakcgajjar Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ #WordPressTips (twitter.com/_/status/716844046896001024)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress by David Shanske" by David Shanske http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/#comment-161414
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KartikPrabhu that comment link goes no where ^
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GWG I didn't link
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@WPNewsThemes Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress - Trackbacks, pingbacks, and webmentions are all ways to link… http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716868059793907712)
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@rosapintado #Trackbacks vs #Pingbacks vs #Webmentions for WordPress - WPMU DEV http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716870154320220160)
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@_MatiWeb_ [ #WordPress ]- Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716872797251837953)
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tantek hmm
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Loqi tantek: snarfed left you a message 3 hours, 12 minutes ago: just fyi, your dec (and earlier) 2015 missing instagram backfeed was due to https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/584 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-03/line/1459740206202
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tantek ah! glad I stopped where I did :)
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tantek !tell snarfed that makes sense for originally missing, but now, posts from 2015-12-06 onward are all on my home page (temporary 255 recent posts) and have been retried.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell snarfed and starting here and paging Older, numerous 2016 January to present posts that have "No webmention targets" https://brid.gy/instagram/tantek?responses_before=2016-04-04T00:55:51.124560#responses
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [indieweb] "Serial activists: Political Twitter beyond twittertariat https://www.rmendes.net/2016/serial-activists-political-twitter-beyond-influentials-and-the-twittertariat-activism What? No #indieweb interviews?!" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/serial-activists-political-twitter-beyond-twittertariat-2016serial-activists-political-twitter-beyond-influentials-and-the-twittertariat-activism-what-no-indieweb
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@ChrisAldrich Serial activists: Political Twitter beyond twittertariat https://www.rmendes.net/2016/serial-activists-political-twitter-beyond-influentials-and-the-twittertariat-activism What? No #indieweb interviews?! (twitter.com/_/status/716880653380222976)
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GWG waits for tantek to solve the secrets of time travel
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jonnybarnes is aaronpk awake?
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jonnybarnes aaronpk, I’ve opened a PR on the indieauth client package to update it to use the newest version of mf2
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cweiske why does an indieauth client depend on mf2?
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jonnybarnes maybe because it makes a http request to you homepage to workout what authorization_endpoint to use
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jonnybarnes does it use the mf2 package to retreive the rel values from the html
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jonnybarnes thats one way to specify the auth endpoint you want to use
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cweiske really? mf2 for extracting rel values?
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cweiske that's a bit much in my eyes
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jonnybarnes I dunno, aaronpk will know better what its used for
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jonnybarnes but I can't update me main app to use v0.3 because indieauth is currently dependent on 0.2.*
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voxpelli it uses it to fetch rels from html + to fetch a representative h-card, can't see a reason why not to
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@matdryhurst @_sshaw there's a few good ones on @indiewebcamp Medium page but I can't find the one I know you are talking about! https://indiewebcamp.com/Medium (twitter.com/_/status/716912010076749824)
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@_sshaw @matdryhurst @indiewebcamp Cheers! (twitter.com/_/status/716913057675546625)
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@wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716913199400882176)
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@wp_digest RT @wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716913205088489473)
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@thheyworth RT @wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716914224975519744)
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@WHSRnet Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 #WordPress #development (twitter.com/_/status/716914335180673025)
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@muc_webdesigner Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716914965270118400)
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@GPL_Life RT @wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716923065385365504)
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@MiguelAnLH Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress - WPMU DEV http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716929632809914369)
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@komiska RT @wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716931631781646336)
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@jordan_web Another blogging silo bites the dust. Poetica has been acquired by Condé Nast https://poetica.com/ #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/716933911159443456)
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@AmateurTechno Another blogging silo bites the dust. Poetica has been acquired by Condé Nast https://poetica.com/ #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/716933911151042560)
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@librarian2277 Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpremium.wpmudev.org%2Fblog%2Ftrackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions%2F&text=Trackbacks+vs+Pingbacks+vs+Webmentions+for+WordPress&original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fpremium.wpmudev.org%2Fblog%2Ftrackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions%2F%3Futm_source%3DWPMU%2BDEV%2BBlog%26utm_campaign%3D255c6ab318-RSS_Daily_Mailchimp%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_term%3D0_591b793ca5-255c6ab318-100151505 (twitter.com/_/status/716934847160270848)
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@UpdraftPlus Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress, a history of Linkbacks: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ @wpmudev https://twitter.com/UpdraftPlus/status/716935664009396224/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716935664009396224)
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@awontis Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176 (twitter.com/_/status/716949354733576193)
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@WebOptimizer_DE Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716951156296138754)
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cweiske Loqi, please do not post retweets
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@dshanske Why Webmentions in WordPress - https://david.shanske.com/2016/04/04/why-webmentions-in-wordpress/ (twitter.com/_/status/716959674105520128)
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Loqi [bridgy] Steves replied '@matdryhurst @indiewebcamp Cheers!' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Medium (https://twitter.com/_sshaw/status/716913057675546625)
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@curiouslt Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress - http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716974197424021504)
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@PixelboxUK Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/716981265493262337)
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[aaronpk] Thanks petermolnar
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[aaronpk] It should be no problem for IndieAuth client to use >0.2
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jonnybarnes yes, but the composer.json speicifies 0.2.* in the requires section
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jonnybarnes so, composer wont install mf2 0.3
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[aaronpk] Right I can fix that
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jonnybarnes yay
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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[aaronpk] I also somehow missed that barnaby had released 0.3! That's great news
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jonnybarnes any chance you could merge my PR aaronpk?
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: I wil after I eat breakfast :D
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jonnybarnes hello tantek
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: lol, eat faster!!!! :P
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aaronpk fwiw if it's blocking you, you can always update your composer.json to reference your own git fork of that repo
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aaronpk thats what I'm doing with cassis while I wait for tantek's feedback on my PR
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@RFEHosting RT @wpmudev Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress: http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/wpmudev/status/716913199400882176/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716996014645911552)
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jonnybarnes this worked for me aaronpk: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13325158/contributing-to-open-source-bundles-from-vendor-directory/27970559#27970559
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snarfed emmak_: hi! just fyi your webmention handler has been 500ing for a while. click "... ago" links on https://brid.gy/instagram/emmackuo#responses for details
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 1 minute ago: that makes sense for originally missing, but now, posts from 2015-12-06 onward are all on my home page (temporary 255 recent posts) and have been retried. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-03/line/1459752083070
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 8 hours ago: and starting here and paging Older, numerous 2016 January to present posts that have "No webmention targets" https://brid.gy/instagram/tantek?responses_before=2016-04-04T00:55:51.124560#responses http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-03/line/1459752125822
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snarfed understood
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tantek good morning snarfed !
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snarfed hi tantek!
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jonnybarnes yo aaronpk, do you know what the difference for composer is between ~x.y.z and ^x.y.z?
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aaronpk yes i was just reading about those https://getcomposer.org/doc/articles/versions.md
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aaronpk ~1.2 is equivalent to >=1.2 <2.0.0
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aaronpk ^1.2.3 is equivalent to >=1.2.3 <2.0.0
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jonnybarnes ahhh
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aaronpk subtle difference. oh looks like ^ has a special case for when the major version is 0
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jonnybarnes hmmm, my fork isn’t working :/
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aaronpk i'm almost done with the release
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jonnybarnes IndieWeb\http_rels()&quot;
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jonnybarnes no
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jonnybarnes that coped wrong
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jonnybarnes Fatal error: call to undefined function \IndieWeb\http_rels()
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jonnybarnes on line 59 of Client.php
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aaronpk that's part of https://github.com/indieweb/link-rel-parser-php
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jonnybarnes gah, right, I’ll just wait for your release, and let composer sort itself out
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jonnybarnes it was installing my fork, but not th eright branch or something
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jonnybarnes talking of Mf2, I don’t think it uses this namespace anymore: https://github.com/indieweb/indieauth-client-php/blob/504ba095ee10ffaabc570682f3a93b462ba21c77/src/IndieAuth/Client.php#L3
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aaronpk oh yeah that was going from 0.1 to 0.2
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jonnybarnes yaaay, my code is working again!
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jonnybarnes hmm, so the client works even with the wring namespace `use`d at the top, maybe just get rid if that line?
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jonnybarnes s/wring/wrong
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Loqi jonnybarnes meant to say: hmm, so the client works even with the wrong namespace `use`d at the top, maybe just get rid if that line?
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aaronpk yeah it won't hurt anything to have that but i'll fix it
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tantek namespaces--
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Loqi namespaces has -4 karma
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aaronpk namespaces are great in this case
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aaronpk i'd much rather a library define all its random functions in its own namespace rather than potentially conflict with my own function names or other libraries
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tantek oops just saw aaronpk's note about cassis
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tantek sorry about that aaronpk - feel free to ping again if I forget like that in the future
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tantek reviews changes
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aaronpk no problem, it was right before IWC/W3C stuff and you were traveling a bunch
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singpolyma namespaces++
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Loqi namespaces has -3 karma
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singpolyma ;)
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tantek aaronpk: I see just one punctuation nit but otherwise looks good (space around comma)
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tantek s/bcdiv(bcsub($n,$d),60);/bcdiv(bcsub($n, $d), 60);
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tantek in https://github.com/tantek/cassis/pull/25/files
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tantek any chance you can fix that? or do I need to merge first and then fix?
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aaronpk i will fix and it will update the PR
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tantek is still getting used to github mechanics with these things
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tantek is never sure which path is easier/harder with github - so many options
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aaronpk there it goes
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tantek LOL: " This page is out of date. Refresh"
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aaronpk i like to think of that as github throwing up their hands because the changes were too complicated to update inline
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singpolyma aaronpk: yeah. way easier to build a refresh notice than an actual page upate
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aaronpk They do a good job of bringing updates inline for simpler stuff like showing comments
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aaronpk \o/ https://twitter.com/cassisjs/status/717010354472136704
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@cassisjs [cassis] https://github.com/tantek/cassis/commit/f72c6e70b41bf98c8094bdd348f4acf7553c76a2 Tantek Çelik - Merge pull request #25 from aaronpk/master refactor tests, adds PHP tests, adds NewBase6... (twitter.com/_/status/717010354472136704)
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tantek whoa that's working again?
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aaronpk oh now I remember why you were hesitant to release this, heh
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aaronpk this fixes the PHP side to be able to use newbase60 with numbers larger than 32 bits, but the JS side is still broken
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aaronpk i.e. no change on JS, but improved PHP, and you wanted them to maintain feature parity
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tantek aaronpk: I've made commits since Jan 24 that don't show up in the tweets :(
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tantek aaronpk - I changed my mind on that
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tantek because it's still useful for PHP to be able to do that, though I suppose it's worth documenting the difference
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aaronpk great. probably worth documenting so people aren't too surprised when tweet IDs don't convert right in JS
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tantek and now that I merged your change, and I've selfdogfooded my own new function long enough, I'm going to merge that in too
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tantek oh hey finally the Twitter integration is working for me again too! https://twitter.com/cassisjs/status/717011650927312896
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@cassisjs [cassis] https://github.com/tantek/cassis/commit/357e30ad12017b4d67cac5f4400e8f371cd2f504 Tantek Çelik - new function trim_leading_urls new function from Falcon, trim_leading_urls, useful for g... (twitter.com/_/status/717011650927312896)
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: okay i think everything is updated now
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jonnybarnes yup, all working here
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@sparkcbc @peterjanes @indiewebcamp You know, I've been thinking about this lately. It's a good idea to explore! (twitter.com/_/status/717011919048192001)
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@sparkcbc @peterjanes @indiewebcamp This is Nora, btw. Forgot to add my initials! (twitter.com/_/status/717011992649838592)
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tantek aaronpk: so did you fix this? or do we leave it open for JS? https://github.com/tantek/cassis/issues/17
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aaronpk let's leave it open since it's still broken in JS
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tantek ok. commented. how about https://github.com/tantek/cassis/issues/15 what's the magic there?
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aaronpk you can do that from here now https://github.com/tantek/cassis/releases
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aaronpk make a new release and then it will push the update to packagist, so anyone installing it from there will get the update
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aaronpk is pushing out a new version of XRay with the 0.3.0 parser!
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Loqi [indieweb] "indieweb/mention-client (1.1.3)" by Aaron Parecki https://packagist.org/packages/indieweb/mention-client
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tantek aaronpk: making a new release require re-understanding the tagging/version numbering scheme
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aaronpk the version numbering scheme is up to you
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aaronpk it looks like you're doing something based off of the date
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tantek yes the previous me already decided it and I don't remember where I documented it, there's no hook in this UI to give myself a hint
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tantek could be epoch days
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aaronpk most other projects on packagist are doing more or less this: http://semver.org/ but it doesn't really matter as long as the version number increases
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tantek right already have x.y.z
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tantek hmm, I guess new functions would qualify as MINOR version updates
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KartikPrabhu Loqi: messages?
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Loqi is done
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tantek alright then I suppose enough new functionality has been added for 0.2
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aaronpk the easy way is just 0.2.0 then 0.2.1 etc
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tantek I prefer to encode the epoch days in the path version because it's compatible with semver and encodes additional information
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tantek s/path/patch
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Loqi tantek meant to say: I prefer to encode the epoch days in the patch version because it's compatible with semver and encodes additional information
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aaronpk oh man. it's time. i can't install php-mf2 0.3.0 on pin13.net because it's still running php 5.3
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barnabywalters aaronpk: IIRC it was you who suggested upgrading the requirement ;)
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Loqi barnabywalters: gRegorLove left you a message 1 week ago: Per /profile_photo I noticed your posts preserve the photo you used at the time of publishing. I was wondering what your structure is for handling that. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-27/line/1459114378697
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barnabywalters I was surprised at the time as you were always the one bugging me about PHP5.4 array syntax
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tantek (over two years since previous cassis "release"?!?)
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barnabywalters !tell gRegorLove I store a copy of my current author details in each post, and new profile photos are dated, so old posts retain their old profile photo
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk this is one of those things where it's been on my todo list for 2+ years to move everything off that server
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tantek hey barnabywalters !!!
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barnabywalters heya tantek! looking forward to seeing you at IWC Nürnberg next weekend!
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tantek gets bogged down in writing release notes
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barnabywalters I keep on trying to get into the habit of adding bits of release notes for the next release to the README file every time I change anything
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barnabywalters instead of having to browse through fixed issues and pull requests every few months to scrabble together something resembling coherent release notes
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jonnybarnes barnabywalters: like a changelog: http://keepachangelog.com/
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: yeah that’s even what I call the section of the README
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barnabywalters I just didn’t get into the habit of maintaining it other than when I do a release
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tantek shipping it
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tantek barnabywalters: same same - been way too long
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tantek aaronpk: https://github.com/tantek/cassis/releases/tag/v0.2.16895
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aaronpk i've been doing summaries of changes in the git commits or PRs, but I'm going to start putting those directly into the readme as well
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tantek sigh, bitten by a stupid markdown list interpretation bug
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tantek markdown--
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Loqi markdown has -1 karma
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KartikPrabhu hey its a standard now!
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KartikPrabhu ;)
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tantek KartikPrabhu: yeah? what RFC? :P
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tantek this: trim_leading_urls JS-only (exists in PHP itself)
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tantek was supposed to be
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tantek * trim_leading_urlsJS-only (exists in PHP itself)
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tantek oops no
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tantek * trim_leading_urls
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tantek JS-only (exists in PHP itself)
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aaronpk i think you need a space or two on that "JS-only" line
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tantek notices he can update release notes
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tantek ok done aaronpk
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aaronpk oh i see what you were trying to do now
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@Perfect4WP Trackbacks vs pingbacks vs webmentions for #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/Perfect4WP/status/717032810180177920/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/717032810180177920)
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sandro s/write/right
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[kevinmarks] How would you do large ints in js? Make them strings?
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: tantek left you a message 17 hours, 22 minutes ago: could you post an indie event and FB POSSE copy for https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco and update the page there? Thanks much! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-03/line/1459727714282
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why Webmentions in WordPress https://david.shanske.com/2016/04/04/why-webmentions-in-wordpress/ via @dshanske #IndieWeb" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/why-webmentions-in-wordpress-20160404why-webmentions-in-wordpress-via-dshanske-indieweb
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@ChrisAldrich Why Webmentions in WordPress https://david.shanske.com/2016/04/04/why-webmentions-in-wordpress/ via @dshanske #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/717038823742373889)
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aaronpk yeah i'm sure there's an existing JS library for doing math with large numbers
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aaronpk but it would have to get brought in to cassis inline to avoid introducing a whole dependency chain
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tantek GWG++ nice post! (no need to put such a big disclaimer at the top - at the bottom as part of an aside would be fine)
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Loqi GWG has 151 karma
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tantek aaronpk: I've often found JS "libraries" for doing many of the things in CASSIS, and they're nearly all overdesigned, overcomplicated, massive piles of crap
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tantek (said from snooty-CS-education experience)
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aaronpk yeah and the recent npm disaster was a great demonstration of that
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tantek GWG, do you want feedback / suggested edits for your post Why Webmentions in WordPress?
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tantek (aside I see now why you were upset when WPTavern did their own article instead, very odd about that)
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tantek (now if I supported /edit posts on my own site, I could just post those without asking right? and then GWG could optionally choose to merge them in :) )
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: that's what twitter did with its *id_str fields. https://dev.twitter.com/overview/api/twitter-ids-json-and-snowflake
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@ChrisAldrich Thanks for pressing the issue David! More and more I'm sure webmentions are the next generation of web evolution. #IndieWeb (twitter.com/_/status/717041351968206848)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Thanks for pressing the issue David! More and more I'm sure webmentions are the next generation of web evolution. #IndieWeb" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/thanks-for-pressing-the-issue-david-more-and-more-im
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@atlantawebguy Bloggers: Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress explained! http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/717041728444829696)
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snarfed incidentally tantek, bridgy logs think you clicked ~650 retry buttons yesterday :P
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tantek lololol
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tantek kind of got into it like a twitch video game at some point
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KevinMarks with python newbase60 I accidentally 'decoded' a slug rather than a newbase60 id and got a very big integer
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snarfed feature request: add sparkle animation
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@WebOptimizer_DE Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress https://managewp.org/articles/12108/trackbacks-vs-pingbacks-vs-webmentions-for-wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/717047923180183552)
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j4y_funabashi Hey, I am having an issue where I posse a few photos to facebook and they aggregate them into a single post, bridgy then sends me a mention where the like-of & in-reply-to are the aggregation page on facebook, not the target (my permalink) so my site is rejecting it. Are there any rules about how I should be parsing mentions? ie which links to follow if source does not contain target?
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tantek assuming only SF & PDX this week for HWC
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Boffo Socko Now Supports Hypothes.is Annotations by Chris Aldrich" by Chris Aldrich http://boffosocko.com/2016/04/03/boffo-socko-now-supports-hypothes-is-annotations/#comment-30166
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aaronpk j4y_funabashi: if source does not contain target, you should stop immediately since it's most likely junk/spam
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Loqi [indieweb] "WeeklyUpdates/2016-04-04" by Tantek https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=WeeklyUpdates/2016-04-04&diff=1125860&oldid=1125859
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j4y_funabashi aaronpk: This is the FB aggregation of my photos which is what bridgy is sending me as the source https://www.facebook.com/10153584798226153/posts/10154023480651153
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j4y_funabashi https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/facebook/10153584798226153/10154023480651153/1121686637851651
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Loqi [Russell Watson] tag:facebook.com,2013:10154023480651153_liked_by_1121686637851651
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@DigestWordpress RT @Perfect4WP Trackbacks vs pingbacks vs webmentions for #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ https://twitter.com/Perfect4WP/status/717032810180177920/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/717050399786598400)
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aaronpk if bridgy is sending you a webmention that doesn't validate then it's a bug with bridgy
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aaronpk i know they've been dealing with a lot of weird things about how facebook handles photos
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j4y_funabashi ok, I just wondered if I was doing something wrong with parsing the mention
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tantek just made it into the Mozilla announcement
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tantek for HWC this week
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tantek !tell jgarber I optimistically put HWC DC as ON for this week in the Mozilla weekly announcements :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek whoa there was Detroit on https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-club ?
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tantek !tell lmorchard how was IWC Detroit two weeks ago? Were you able to get a co-organizer or take a photo or notes? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-club
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell gRegorLove we're catching up to the future, could you clone https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club into May and June HWC events? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell gRegorLove yes even with the HWC SF location preset to Moz 1st floor (I've booked it for HWC through rest of the year except for a couple of nights)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gyuumaou job searchin' and hatin it
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tantek gyuumaou: do you have your resume posted on your site somewhere?
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gyuumaou @tantek actually i don't
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gyuumaou bit of a privacy concern is all
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tantek totally understandable
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-186) "next two HWC SF,PDX,DC unless we hear otherwise, next IWC is Nuremberg, archive IWC MIT 2016" (view diff)
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@tommorris Another site death. This time, @poetica. 2016-06-01. This is a recurring theme. https://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/717063590210105344)
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tantek hey gRegorLove have you experimented much with Goodreads cross-posting to FB?
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gRegorLove Nope, not at all.
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Loqi gRegorLove: barnabywalters left you a message 3 hours, 12 minutes ago: I store a copy of my current author details in each post, and new profile photos are dated, so old posts retain their old profile photo http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-04/line/1459785477001
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 40 minutes ago: we're catching up to the future, could you clone https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club into May and June HWC events? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-04/line/1459794611683
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 38 minutes ago: yes even with the HWC SF location preset to Moz 1st floor (I've booked it for HWC through rest of the year except for a couple of nights) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-04/line/1459794719085
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gRegorLove I know there's an FB Goodreads "app' that does that, but I have no desire to cross-post like that.
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tantek I saw some Goodreads cross-posts on someone else's profile and found the plain text copy potentially informative for /read post design
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tantek here I'll add some generic text versions (for privacy)
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GWG tantek, I think I was a bit annoyed, but you are right, bottom would have been fine.
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tantek I can understand your annoyance - and you can still change it!
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tantek I say better to start off with your own strongly positive creative words and leave the background drama for the background as it were
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@WordpRRess Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://www.rightrelevance.com/search/articles/hero?article=d2d0f0065e03337d60aca58e50d0c448b0074783&query=wordpress&taccount=wordprress https://twitter.com/WordpRRess/status/717070785941098497/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/717070785941098497)
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@JPen365 Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/717074123894095873)
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KevinMarks site death = house stops working: https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.fqjaaj6j7
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tantek wat
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tantek what is Revolv
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Revolv" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HR
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snarfed obligatory: https://twitter.com/internetofshit
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tantek yep
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tantek obligatory AdamaWasRight
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gRegorLove sosayweall++
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Loqi sosayweall has 1 karma
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tantek "Is the era of IoT bringing an end to the concept of ownership?" Yes if you let it.
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aaronpk what's that word for a thing where you kill one and two appear in its place?
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KevinMarks hydra?
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aaronpk i feel like i'm battling server hydras today
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gRegorLove Youtube comments?
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aaronpk gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 55 karma
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aaronpk my todo list for moving off my old server had 5 things left when i started this morning. i've finished 3 of them and now the list is 8 long
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KevinMarks heh. Sounds like when I built the technorati crawler with 2 layers of reslience
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bear I know that pain - I finally got my scripts done to install my server fully
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KevinMarks so people would try to stop it by killing processes and more would keep appearing
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aaronpk hahaha
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bear so then I tested them by moving my server to another providor and deleting the old one to prove I did it properly ;)
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aaronpk that's intense
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bear I had tarballs of the directories so the data was safe
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tantek Revolv is a home automation hub that receives automatic software updates, acquired by [[Google]], and shutting down 2016-05-15, including a software update that bricks all existing Revolv devices. https://medium.com/@arlogilbert/the-time-that-tony-fadell-sold-me-a-container-of-hummus-cb0941c762c1#.fqjaaj6j7
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bear I was testing the ansible scripts to provision
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/2016/04/04/4/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Your friendly reminder that without open standards, you're not "buying" smarthome hardware, you're renting it. http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-nest-closing-smart-home-company-revolv-bricking-devices-2016-4...
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KevinMarks the technorati crawlers were process parallel on multiple machines, with a master app that spawned the processes, and a shell script that would repeatedly respawn the master app on each server
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KevinMarks there was a way to turn them off, but that involved reading the docs
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tantek what is Google Docs?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Google Docs" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HS
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tantek seriously
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tantek Google Docs is a free and fairly user-friendly document creating, collaborative editing, and sharing silo from [[Google]] that sometimes fails inexplicably.
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Think we can collapse "Dead Silos" and "Dead Services" sections of /Google?
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snarfed or maybe just link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discontinued_products_and_services
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tantek nah - the silos are actual loss of content
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tantek a much bigger problem than "services"
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tantek important to keep track what actually matters to people (their stuff)
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tantek and we have more details than the wikipedia list
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tantek (pretty sure we do already link to the wikipedia list for a see more)
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gRegorLove Yeah, there's a link to the WP List of Google products page, as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_services
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tantek BTW - happy (or sad) 4/04 day
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aaronpk oh yeah
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tantek appropriate that we're documenting so much site-death
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gyuumaou a lesser known site that shut down, that i was a huuuge fan of, was a thing called svpply. collecting cool clothes/products and organizing them with people you follow
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gyuumaou got bought up by ebay and shutdown.
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tantek whoa
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tantek what is svpply?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "svpply" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HT
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tantek gyuumaou: do you have any links about their shut down?
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aaronpk someone apparently made a kickstarter to make a new version of it
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gyuumaou ah, yeah i saw that - i think its the same concept but you dont actually get to curate it yourself which was kind of the whole point
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gyuumaou http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/24/ebay-svpply-to-shut-down/ i suppose this covers it
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gyuumaou it seems the site still exists as a storefront for weird alt-fashions
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gRegorLove Svpply is on /site-deaths
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Haha
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tantek lol
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tantek you broke it you fix it! ;)
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gRegorLove delete, Loqi. Delete.
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tantek gRegorLove: you really don't want to be teaching that kind of phrasing to robots. Just saying.
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gRegorLove Hehe
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gRegorLove Yeah, especially when those bots can also be taught to be Nazis
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gRegorLove what was svpply?
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Loqi Svpply was a social shopping site that was acquired by Ebay and shut down 2014-08-31 https://indiewebcamp.com/Svpply
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jonnybarnes eer, whats going on here?Link: <https://https://myfavoritesocialnetwork.example/aaronpk/xxxxxx>; rel="syndication"
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jonnybarnes I’m trying to work out how an async response works in §3.3.5 of the micropub spec
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aaronpk typo
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jonnybarnes If I’m going to create the post asyncronously then I won’t know that the URL will be yet, so what do I put in the Location header?
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aaronpk you could either do enough work synchronously to decide what URL it will be at before you return the response, or you could return a temporary URL that you then send a permanent redirect to once it's created
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aaronpk tho afaik every current micropub server creates the post synchronously
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aaronpk mine does the syndication asynchronously, but the post is created as soon as the response is done
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@scottyfairmont Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ via @wpmudev (twitter.com/_/status/717095173776347137)
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misuba why does bridgy hate me so very, very much
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snarfed aww it doesn't!
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misuba “Failed:
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misuba gibberish.com
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misuba theha.us/profile/misuba “
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snarfed click on the "X ago" links and see why!
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misuba with little yellow exclamation points that don’t have a tooltip or a separate link to say why
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misuba oh on those. ok.
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misuba so it looks like it’s choking on trying to reach theha.us, which I guess I have to remove from a setting somewhere?
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snarfed http://theha.us/profile/misuba doesn't load for me
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snarfed http://isup.me/http://theha.us/profile/misuba
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misuba nor for me, nor for anyone. the question is, why is brid.gy still looking for it?
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snarfed oh. because it was in your twitter profile when you signed up. remove it and re-sign up for bridgy and it will disappear
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misuba re-sign up?
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snarfed looks like you did already
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misuba uh… okay. don’t remember doing that but whatever. i just remember being asked to log in and having to reapprove the twitter app
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gRegorLove "sign up" is just clicking the twitter icon on https://brid.gy/
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tantek snarfed, is there anything further I can do to help track down the Instagram Bridgy "No webmention targets" failures?
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gRegorLove It goes through the auth step fresh
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snarfed tantek: nope, i'm good. i'll get to them eventually :P
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snarfed misuba: re the gibberish.com wm failure, looks like you're on wordpress and the wp plugin doesn't support home page wms
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misuba the wp plugin? which one?
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tantek snarfed, in particular, do I have to keep all the posts on my home page? Or now that it's crawled my home page with 255 recent items will Bridgy remember those even though it recrawls?
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tantek (e.g. if I drop down to like 4-16 items)
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gRegorLove misuba: The WP webmention plugin, I believe.
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snarfed tantek: yes, it stores all synd links permanently
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snarfed (except if you change them, then it updates its own store)
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tantek ok
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tantek and you'll still be able to look investigate even if I flip my IG profile private again?
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snarfed yes
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snarfed i'll pull your html manually right now just in case
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tantek ok
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tantek was just about to flip to 8 items
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snarfed (btw tantek one good way to get me to prioritize it higher would be to display them on your site! :P)
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tantek good point
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tantek already feeling the pressure for events since I haven't been able to convince anyone else to post a HWC SF indie event for this week :(
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Why Webmentions in WordPress by ChrisAldrich" by ChrisAldrich https://david.shanske.com/2016/04/04/why-webmentions-in-wordpress/#comment-2244
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tantek thanks snarfed. switches flipped.
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snarfed mazel tov!
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@WordPressLiving Trackbacks vs Pingbacks vs Webmentions for WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/717109820088852480)
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club (+61) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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KevinMarks hm, how do I fb posse that than?
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KevinMarks known has no posse buttons on event posts
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snarfed fb api doesn't support it :(
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Loqi *sniff*
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snarfed manual til. it...., well, manual
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KevinMarks ah
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KevinMarks https://www.facebook.com/events/960695150652726/#
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KevinMarks so if I link to my indie event as tickets available?
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club (+52) "/* San Francisco */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Google_Docs (+198) "never had this problem with Etherpad, see also" (view diff)
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myfreeweb hey everyone, i made a micropub thing you probably won't use :D https://unrelenting.technology/notes/2016-04-04-23-02-41
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Loqi [Greg] I made a thing that lets me post Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup game logs to my website!
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tantek wow what?
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tantek acegiak ^^^ (!!!)
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tantek myfreeweb: you might be surprised to find others that like to log their (video) game playing to their personal sites here
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myfreeweb nah that wouldn't be surprising… finding someone who plays dcss would be somewhat surprising though…
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snarfed KevinMarks: you're thinking, for backfeed? you'll want to put it in the description. tickets available may be new, bridgy probably won't see it there
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myfreeweb it's not a completely obscure game but it's not very popular either
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myfreeweb I think I'll add nethack too
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tantek OMS. so many hours sucked into that game.
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myfreeweb into nethack? :)
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snarfed still needs to find/add mf2 to https://snarfed.org/games
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] games
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tantek snarfed, for what consuming code purpose?
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snarfed tantek: got me
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snarfed maybe i don't?
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KartikPrabhu <badoom-tshh>
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snarfed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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tantek snarfed: right, for what itch to scratch?
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snarfed yes, i understand the question. none.
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tantek (I wouldn't have asked either of those 10y ago, but have since learned better than semantic markup for semantic sake)
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KartikPrabhu what about Semantic Web 3.0 (TM) ;)
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myfreeweb hah, crawllog adds custom mf2 for no good reason… maybe for an indieweb scoreboard in the future
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snarfed only curiosity right now
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snarfed i guess it'd be http://microformats.org/wiki/h-review
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Loqi h-review
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KartikPrabhu making up custom mf2 for no reason is worse that simple mf2 for no reason
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aaronpk considers making Loqi not say link previews if the entire text of what he's about to say is present in the URL
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Loqi who, me?
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snarfed "for no reason" is the key point
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snarfed custom mf2 for a reason is useful
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tantek yeah
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bear https://www.metamind.io/salesforce-acquisition
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tantek Uh oh they used the key phrase: "we'll be able to continue our journey"
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tantek what is MetaMind?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "MetaMind" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HV
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bear adding it to the wiki now
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bear.im edited /site-deaths (+253) "adding metamind" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: yes agreed
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bear MetaMind was a machine learning platform to allow for sentiment analysis of text for sales teams, see http://metamind.io
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loqi.me created /MetaMind (+147) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-04/line/1459812456184 and dfn added by bear" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek what is Salesforce?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Salesforce" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HW
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tantek gives bear a chance to respond before he makes a snarkinition
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KartikPrabhu what is snarkinition?
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Loqi A snarkinition is a portmanteau of (and meaning both) snarky and definition, often used to start wikifying a technology or piece of jargon which is not necessarily well regarded, sometimes as an implicit challenge to advocates to step-up and say why otherwise https://indiewebcamp.com/snarkinition
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KartikPrabhu oh dear
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@Dan_Blick "POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere" via @kinlane #ownyourown Details: https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/717134296306348032)
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gRegorLove There's also grumpinition now
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gRegorLove What is grumpinition?
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Loqi A grumpinition is a portmanteau of grumpy and definition meaning a definition written in such a way that the author was clearly upset with the term or phrase being defined, often for specific reasons, which may be explicitly noted in the definition https://indiewebcamp.com/grumpinition
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aaronpk oh dear. the newbase60 rubygem was unpublished
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tantek wait wat?
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tantek what is unpublish?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "unpublish" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10HX
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snarfed unpublish is /delete
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loqi.me created /unpublish (+19) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-04/line/1459813589775 and dfn added by snarfed" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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snarfed ducks
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aaronpk i dunno, it's gone
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aaronpk [shaners]: you had previously published the newbase60 gem, right?
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@kinlane RT @Dan_Blick "POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere" via @kinlane #ownyourown Details: https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/717136791149477888)
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aaronpk looks like archive.org confirms that http://web.archive.org/web/20100729225503/http://rubygems.org/gems/newbase60
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@georgekroner RT @Dan_Blick "POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere" via @kinlane #ownyourown Details: https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/717137300061364225)
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gRegorLove What is newbase60?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/newbase60
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aaronpk well the gem was 1 file, and i had a cached copy elsewhere, so i just put that code inline for now
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aaronpk i'm curious why [shaners] unpublished it though
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gregorlove.com edited /newbase60 (+92) "dfn" (view diff)
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@DesktopServer Learn the difference in pingbacks, trackbacks & mentions in this #tutorial http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ http://twitter.com/DesktopServer/status/717124793808658432/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/717124793808658432)
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@BackbayVentures When and How to Use all 3 Types of #Linkbacks in #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ #blogging @jpen365 via @wpmudev http://twitter.com/BackbayVentures/status/716802737757937665/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716802737757937665)
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aaronpk uhoh sorry
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@BackbayVentures When and How to Use all 3 Types of #Linkbacks in #WordPress http://premium.wpmudev.org/blog/trackbacks-pingbacks-webmentions/ #blogging @jpen365 via @wpmudev http://twitter.com/BackbayVentures/status/716531203948617729/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/716531203948617729)
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@VSChawathe http://tantek.com http://tantek.com/2016/093/t1/indieweb-micropub-incrementalism-cduru (twitter.com/_/status/716517751896952832)
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tantek wat
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gregorlove.com edited /newbase60 (-113) "duplicate. redirect to /NewBase60" (view diff)
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aaronpk getting some duplicate tweets here. i'm moving the twitter script