#indiewebcamp 2016-05-10

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miklb it's not a big deal, was just looking to play around with his workflow. I can use Quill for the time being.
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miklb he just doesn't remember how he got the token. Said he copied something from Quill.
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aaronpk quill doesn't show the full token so i doubt it
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miklb right, I dscovered that today.
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aaronpk it wouldn't be hard to make a small app that logs you in and shows you the token tho
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aaronpk 1) fetch your home page and look for the following rels: authorization_endpoint, token_endpoint, micropub
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aaronpk 2) direct your browser to http://yourauthorizationendpoint?me=http://you.example.com&response_type=code&client_id=http://app.example.net&redirect_uri=http://localhost/redirect
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aaronpk 3) once you approve the request, the auth server will redirect you back to http://localhost/redirect?code=xxxxxxx
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aaronpk 4) take the code from the query string and make a post request to the token endpoint: me=http://you.example.com&code=xxxxxxx&redirect_uri=http://localhost/redirect
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aaronpk 5) the response will include the access token
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aaronpk more info here: http://indiewebcamp.com/obtaining-an-access-token
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miklb aaronpk thanks!
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miklb aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 133 karma
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tantek ok I think I'm caught up in the logs
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tantek bring it Loqi!
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Loqi tantek: ZegnatWork left you a message 16 hours, 33 minutes ago: several feed readers and services do support post updates, just make sure the unique identifier (atom:id, I guess) stays the same. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462782672135
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Loqi :)
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Loqi tantek: ZegnatWork left you a message 16 hours, 32 minutes ago: Dr Drang wrote about RSS services and their support for updates, called is a mess, so don't assume anything: http://leancrew.com/all-this/2014/11/more-rss-mess/ http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462782727105
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Loqi tantek: snarfed left you a message 10 hours, 24 minutes ago: looks like the deleted-entry element? i'm just parrotting google :P https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-snell-atompub-tombstones-04.html http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462804854482
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Loqi tantek: kylewm left you a message 9 hours, 23 minutes ago: your dt-deleted values do not have a timezone! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462808491726
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tantek alright, in reverse order
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tantek !tell kylewm thanks! fixed! :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell snarfed yeah saw that RFC draft - no evidence that it went anywhere or that anybody implemented it. I'll ask James.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell Zegnat thanks for that "more RSS mess" link - VERY useful background information.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek http://leancrew.com/all-this/2014/11/more-rss-mess/ footnote 1: "At the risk of offending Atom partisans, I’m going to lump all feed formats together and call them RSS. I know this isn’t technically correct—and the mix of formats is another part of the mess—but it’s common parlance and it’s a convenient shorthand." - thus justifying RSS 4.01
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GWG Evening
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mblaney tantek if you want to go for convention and already implemented for xml feeds (over specs) I'm deleting items from a feed cache when both title and description are empty strings.
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GWG mblaney: How are things at SimplePie?
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mblaney RSS already has the concept of an item without a title and description being invalid, so I'm using that as a signal to delete items.
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mblaney GWG: good thanks, I got some positive feedback following the 1.4 release
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mblaney there's a ticket to update Wordpress once a new release came out, feel free to give it a nudge ;-)
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GWG mblaney: I filed one the day you posted it was out.
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GWG Was there already one?
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mblaney this was the one you originally pinged me about: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/36221
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mblaney currently closed "maybelater" and waiting on the release
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GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/36669
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GWG I filed this.
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GWG Didn't see any open tickets.
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mblaney GWG++ nice! that's better than bumping the previous one
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Loqi GWG has 156 karma
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GWG I don't think they'd let in php-mf2
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mblaney no, that's going to take more persuasion than we have :-)
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GWG Only because it requires php 5.3
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mblaney It will get there eventually... I've put the soft dependency in, it's just up to others to show interest.
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GWG The 5.3 thing with namespaces is an issue.
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GWG 8.2% of WordPress installations run on 5.2.
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GWG 22.1% on 5.3
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@raamdev Webmention support and improved pings/trackbacks are coming in the next release of the Independent Publisher theme. https://github.com/raamdev/independent-publisher/issues/201#issuecomment-218032476 (twitter.com/_/status/729851834484068352)
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@ipubme RT @raamdev Webmention support and improved pings/trackbacks are coming in the next release of the Independent Publisher theme. https://github.com/raamdev/independent-publisher/issues/201#issuecomment-218032476 (twitter.com/_/status/729852028491567104)
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GWG I told that guy I would try that
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tantek That's good news right?
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GWG Could be
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tantek.com edited /deleted (+850) "collapse Why / Use Case, Handling -> How to, subheads, add self to examples!" (view diff)
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tantek thanks mblaney - is this handling of "when both title and description are empty strings" documented anywhere? even as a brainstorm or proposal?
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@jgmac1106 @timklapdor @dajbelshaw @daibarnes @wiobyrne @epilepticrabbit @hypothes_is @withknown and webmentions making it as a standard will be cool (twitter.com/_/status/729860238032003073)
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mblaney tantek I wrote about it recently: https://unicyclic.com/mal/2016-05-06-deleted_post_support_in_dobrado_indieweb but I'm guessing you mean on the wiki.
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Loqi [Malcolm Blaney] deleted post support in dobrado #indieweb
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mblaney I'm happy to do that, open to suggestions about the best place to mention it.
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mblaney Also "empty strings" is maybe too specific, the RSS spec mentions this under items: "All elements of an item are optional, however at least one of title or description must be present."
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mblaney (see http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rss/rss.html)
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@Susaninlaguna Every day my husband asks me, "Are you done with the book yet?" #amreading #amwriting #blog #authors #indieauth... http:///blog/every-day-my-husband-asks-me-are-you-done-with-the-book-yet-amreading-amwriting-blog-authors-indieauthors-amazon-newrelease (twitter.com/_/status/729879778564562944)
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@2blondesmedia RT @Susaninlaguna Every day my husband asks me, "Are you done with the book yet?" #amreading #amwriting #blog #authors #indieauth... http:///blog/every-day-my-husband-asks-me-are-you-done-with-the-book-yet-amreading-amwriting-blog-authors-indieauthors-amazon-newrelease (twitter.com/_/status/729880232421789701)
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tantek reads mblaney's post about deleted post support
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tantek.com edited /deleted (+627) "Reader Examples / SimplePie" (view diff)
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Ruxton @tantek re your tweets not being publicly visible, I can see them but I was logged into a different twitter account at the time (which wasn't following)
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KartikPrabhu Ruxton: just a headsup, no need to use @ to refer to people. in fact in the logs @tantek links to a twitter account which is not tantek
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gRegorLove Catching up on the "up/downstream" webmentions since I got one from webmention.rocks.
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Ruxton KartikPrabhu: cheers, slack habits are overtaking my old irc habits :(
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KartikPrabhu Ruxton: not to worry, seems to happen to everyone the first time here :)
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boffosocko.com edited /User:Boffosocko.com (+371) "Create method to archive generic webmentions to homepage for WordPress" (view diff)
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tantek ruxton, makes sense. feel free to request from as many other twitter accounts as you want. You can always "mute" so posts don't show up in the Twitter stream / reader view.
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 80 (twitter.com/_/status/729428166230614018)
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mblaney would be nice if @ mentions preferenced home pages in /irc-people over twitter... possible?
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@jackstevens365 RT @Susaninlaguna Every day my husband asks me, "Are you done with the book yet?" #amreading #amwriting #blog #authors #indieauth... http:///blog/every-day-my-husband-asks-me-are-you-done-with-the-book-yet-amreading-amwriting-blog-authors-indieauthors-amazon-newrelease (twitter.com/_/status/729921726658682880)
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gRegorLove The ProcessWire Webmention plugin now handles webmentions with source URLs alraedy linked on the target page. It just indicates "The URL [A] sent a notification to [B]" and marks it as private, so it only shows up in the admin view, not the public view of the post.
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gRegorLove So no more "webmention.rocks mentioned this" due to my own comment there.
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@FEEZig RT @raamdev Webmention support and improved pings/trackbacks are coming in the next release of the Independent Publisher theme. https://github.com/raamdev/independent-publisher/issues/201#issuecomment-218032476 (twitter.com/_/status/729930681539760128)
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aaronpk gRegorLove: why were you getting webmentions from webmention.rocks? It doesn't send any itself yet
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ignite.digitalignition.net created /User:Ignite.digitalignition.net (+202) "Created page with "=<span class="h-card">[http://ignite.digitalignition.net/ Greg Tangey]</span>= * [https://twitter.com/ruxton @ruxton] * [https://facebook.com/greg.tangey facebook] * [https://gi..."" (view diff)
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miklb not exactly sure why, but sorted out how to display a pinned map location of mf-location from Instagram photos. Should be able to do that with geo located posts too.
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gRegorLove aaronpk: No idea! Someone sent two, though. One to my test post and one to my homepage.
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@AlisonEditor1 RT @Susaninlaguna Every day my husband asks me, "Are you done with the book yet?" #amreading #amwriting #blog #authors #indieauth... http:///blog/every-day-my-husband-asks-me-are-you-done-with-the-book-yet-amreading-amwriting-blog-authors-indieauthors-amazon-newrelease (twitter.com/_/status/729941470854123520)
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@OsburnSteve RT @Susaninlaguna Every day my husband asks me, "Are you done with the book yet?" #amreading #amwriting #blog #authors #indieauth... http:///blog/every-day-my-husband-asks-me-are-you-done-with-the-book-yet-amreading-amwriting-blog-authors-indieauthors-amazon-newrelease (twitter.com/_/status/729944747213656066)
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aaronpk ben_thatmustbeme: do you have a photo of your business card with your h-card on it?
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@MktyContenido Trackbacks, pingbacks y webmentions http://wprincipiante.es/trackbacks-pingbacks-y-webmentions/ vía @wprincipiante https://twitter.com/MktyContenido/status/729987697310339072/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/729987697310339072)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Distributions News" by Roy Schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/89072
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GWG Morning
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Loqi [indieweb] "Links 10/5/2016: Zorin OS in Italy, CoreOS Funding" by Dr. Roy Schestowitz http://techrights.org/2016/05/10/zorin-os-in-italy/
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chromic.org edited /IRC_People (+90) "/* Nicknames */ chimo: added myself" (view diff)
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harryreeder.co.uk created /events/2016-05-10-homebrew-website-club (+2083) "HWC Edi 2016-05-10" (view diff)
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aaronpk chimo: just read your posts about your site! Well done! Super great! https://chromic.org/blog/project-autonomous/
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cweiske chimo, someone who's using surrgator! great!
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cweiske s/surrgator/surrogator/
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Loqi cweiske meant to say: chimo, someone who's using surrogator! great!
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cweiske and grauphel!
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chimo aaronpk: :D it's a lot of fun! I'm using some of your stuff as you can see :) Thanks for that
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aaronpk Yes! I was somewhat surprised to see Switchboard there!
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aaronpk chimo: any chance you can make it to IndieWeb Summit in Portland?
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chimo cweiske: yeah! thanks to you as well :)
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chimo aaronpk: I wish! a bit low on disposable income at the moment, unfortunately
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snarfed aww i really want to photo reply to aaronpk's latest photo, https://www.instagram.com/p/BFOokpljcrQ/ , but it looks like ownyourgram hasn't been pesosing his photos for a while
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Loqi snarfed: tantek left you a message 13 hours, 24 minutes ago: yeah saw that RFC draft - no evidence that it went anywhere or that anybody implemented it. I'll ask James. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462842358404
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aaronpk bah yes. one sec will kick that one manually.
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aaronpk here it is: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/05/10/24/
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Trying out some new logo ideas for #webmention Thoughts?
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GWG The second one looks too...superhero-like.
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GWG I wonder how the first one would look if the arrow looked more like a chain.
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aaronpk chain?
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GWG link
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GWG http://image005.flaticon.com/28/svg/34/34470.svg
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aaronpk interesting
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snarfed replied, https://snarfed.org/2016-05-10_aaron-parecki-12 , not sure it worked though
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Aaron Parecki
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snarfed ah there it is. (new) p3k just doesn't support photo replies yet. ah well!
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snarfed or do they need u-photo?
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petermolnar chimo note on the mail.chromic.org entry, I suggest adding OpenDMARC to that stack
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snarfed trying with u-photo
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snarfed shrug
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chimo petermolnar: it's on my ever-growing todo list :)
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aaronpk what is a photo reply?
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Loqi photo reply is a reply with a photo, thus also a photo post that is in-reply-to another post https://indiewebcamp.com/photo_reply
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aaronpk i should add support for that. not a lot of indieweb examples currently.
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Loqi I agree
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snarfed true. very low priority
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aaronpk vector version of the curvy one: https://aaronparecki.com/uploads/Screen-Shot-2016-05-10-16-44-39.png
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GWG petermoln
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GWG a
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GWG petermolnar: I have been thinking again.
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GWG About a question you asked.
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petermolnar that may not be enough information, GWG :)
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GWG Why Semantic Linkbacks only uses one comment type.
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GWG petermolnar: If you changed it now, you'd have to batch convert
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petermolnar I'm not certain I get what you're talking about
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GWG petermolnar: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks/issues/55
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petermolnar pfefferle is developing things with maximum compatibility in mind, which is a good wordpress dev approach; however, some approaches of the wordpress developers are too rigid, in my opinion; this included
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petermolnar the theme support is indeed an issue
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GWG But unless the developer is specifically targeting comments as a type only, they would display as comments.
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GWG In the webmention plugin, he has an option to set all webmentions to a different comment type.
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petermolnar ok, so what is the question or the conclusion?
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GWG Setting it as a comment type is probably better. WordPress could use better support for custom comment types. And there can always be a compatibility setting
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GWG petermolnar: I'm waiting for https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/35214
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GWG petermolnar: If they accomplish that goal, I think it is worth changing.
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petermolnar I'm already using custom types in my plugin, eg. a like is a 'like' type
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petermolnar I was about to use the unicode icon as type in case it's a reacji but that I think is an overkill
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GWG petermolnar: Yes, you can. But if 4.6 includes a custom comment type registration, then it is worth changing the Semantic Linkbacks implementation.
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petermolnar your opinion?
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GWG I think that is too confusing
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Loqi [indieweb] "Interview with Matthew Reinbold" by Lexy Mayko https://www.api2cart.com/blog/interview-matthew-reinbold/
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gRegorLove Hah, I thought Wu-Tang as well, aaronpk, snarfed1
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gRegorLove snarfed: Got a 403 sending this webmention to you http://gregorlove.com/2016/05/star-snarfed/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] ★ https://snarfed.org/2016-05-10_aaron-parecki-12
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gRegorLove Wonder if it's cause it also sent a vouch URL
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@jkphl Leaving Düsseldorf after 4 awesome days of creating @indiewebcamp & learning @btconf. Thx to all I met, it was rad! https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/730086531214520320/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/730086531214520320)
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@TehCaesar @jkphl @indiewebcamp @btconf @marcthiele @iwontsignuphere @t @webgefrickel @justb3a @bastianallgeier @aaronpk @derSchepp @bkastl 🤘🤘 (twitter.com/_/status/730086856063365121)
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snarfed gRegorLove: huh interesting! thanks for the report, will look
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kylewm gRegorLove: really good idea to hide/ignore reversed webmentions
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 16 hours, 23 minutes ago: thanks! fixed! :) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462842328481
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kylewm I got some from webmention.rocks too
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aaronpk wat
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aaronpk who is sending those
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gRegorLove Maybe someone plugged it into indiewebify.me
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gRegorLove it sends wm for a page, right?
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aaronpk that would do it
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gRegorLove The IP was from Massachusetts
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aaronpk someone at MIT?
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gRegorLove Comcast
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@AlfonsoRomay Personalmente, no encuentro grandes ventajas (salvo acceder a audiencia más amplia) y prefiero el enfoque #IndieWeb: http://alfonsoromay.com/2012/07/movimientos-hacia-una-web-independiente/ (twitter.com/_/status/730087806538756097)
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gRegorLove snarfed: Also using u-like-of. not sure if it's something with semantic linkbacks plugin; thought there was some recent change from like-of to u-like-of
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gregorlove.com edited /like (+179) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ s/reposts/likes/ +me" (view diff)
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tantek gRegorLove: we did do a bunch of cleanup and dropping legacy use of "u-like"
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snarfed hey gRegorLove do you have the full response for that 403? i don't see my server logs in real time, only periodically
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gRegorLove I don't, sorry.
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snarfed oh nm, i see the problem
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snarfed fixed and upated. thanks again for the report!
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@eay Und damit sind 2 Tage IndieWebCamp + 2 Tage Beyond Tellerrand auch schon wieder vorbei. Super war’s! Nächstes Jahr gerne wieder! #btconf (twitter.com/_/status/730094859000926209)
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kylewm added preliminary support for dt-deleted to woodwind, so now posts that show up in the feed with dt-deleted will be hidden from the reader after that datetime. the u-url != u-uid case is not working yet though (i.e. the one tantek proposed where u-uid would be the u-url without a slug)
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tantek kylewm - I'm still working on implementing persistent u-uids myself
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tantek specifically, the insight was that given that slugs are user-data that can change, that means that u-url permalinks that include slugs CANNOT be used as u-uid values as well, thus requiring explicit u-uid
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tantek working on it
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aaronpk oh good point
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aaronpk needs to implement that too then
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tantek before this I was unconvinced of a real world need for separate permalink and e.g. Atom:ID
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tantek but now that I followed through on this analysis with /deleted, it is clear why and how to do u-uid
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tantek which I think translates to Atom:ID
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tantek so I'll have to update my Atom generating code accordingly as well
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aaronpk all my URLs have a version that doesn't include the slug which will redirect to the slug-version, so that sounds like a good thing to use as the uid
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tantek same here
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kylewm think that has any bearing on webmention deletes?
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aaronpk i don't see how it could
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tantek kylewm yes
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tantek because you may get a webmention delete from a source URL that is string-different from any URL you have seen before
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aaronpk that's certainly true for updates
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tantek but is actually the same as *one* of the URLs you have seen before
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tantek after you follow redirects for that URL
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kylewm so if the webmention source= the slug-less u-uid in all those cases
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kylewm then you could update the slug and send update webmentions
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kylewm or delete and send the uid without a slug
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kylewm (?)
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aaronpk ohhh yeah, if you send the wm with the source of the slug-less one in the first place
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tantek kylewm that depends on receivers keeping track of BOTH the original "source" sent in the webmention, and what it redirected to (eventually)
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tantek I'm not sure if any do that
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tantek so yes, this does have bearing on webmention updates and deletes
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kylewm I don't keep track of redirects I don't think, but I do store the source and the u-url separately (I think most people do beause of bridgy)
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aaronpk yes i do that too
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aaronpk not sure if i store the original source or the resulting source after redirects tho
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Jeena btw. don't make the same mistake I did when you show the dete/time from exif data of pictures: https://jeena.net/notes/653
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miklb that was a fun exercise, though not sure what real benefit, but generating a static map in Jekyll pulled from data in Instagram mf-location data via OwnYourGram
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Loqi [Jeena] Jeena,
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voxpelli miklb: sounds cool :)
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miklb voxpelli difficult part was the mf-location was in lat/long and Mapbox API needed long/lat so I had to do some funky liquid logic to reverse it and strip extraneous characters.
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voxpelli miklb: rewarding when one manages to do such things in pure liquid :)
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miklb I can actually see some interesting use cases down the road.
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Zegnat Hmm, I was using the IRC web interface this afternoon, and seemed to have the same problem EmmaH had at IWC: the connecting error box did not disappear (ping aaronpk)
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Loqi Zegnat: tantek left you a message 17 hours, 45 minutes ago: thanks for that "more RSS mess" link - VERY useful background information. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-09/line/1462842385248
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tantek miklb, in microformats, there are separate latitude and longitude libraries
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tantek s/libraries/properties
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Loqi tantek meant to say: miklb, in microformats, there are separate latitude and longitude properties
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tantek I don't understand what you mean by "mf-location was in lat/long"
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miklb tantek well, using micropub & OwnYourGram, I got a single mf-location that has latitude,longitude
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miklb not separate properties.
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[kevinmarks] https://whispersystems.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/
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tantek context?
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miklb voxpelli there is an example on my home page now. I need to figure out best way to add a permalink to posts that don't have a title
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voxpelli miklb: I used some kind of time based slug then I think
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voxpelli tantek: probably OwnYourGram that posts a location property
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aaronpk you're getting the location as a geo: URI which specifies lat,lng
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aaronpk i'm tempted to change it to send a full h-card when there's a venue name. I don't like the hack that it is right now.
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miklb aaronpk yes, with the geo: I stripped that out and reversed ordered them to send to the API to get the map. I could easily now use that to include the separate properties in the post. Just scratching the surface of the idea.
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voxpelli aaronpk: would probably make it a bit simpler than the lovely code of miklb:s: https://github.com/miklb/miklb.github.com/blob/jekyll/_includes/post-content.html#L73 :)
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aaronpk yeah, this is a classic problem with geo data. GIS systems prefer lng,lat (x,y) but for some reason webby systems use lat,lng more often
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miklb voxpelli sure, put my spaghetti code on display ;-)
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voxpelli miklb: I think I have some similar code on my site ;)
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tantek miklb++ for putting his code in whatever state on github :)
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voxpelli miklb: https://github.com/voxpelli/voxpelli.github.com/blob/master/_includes/post-content.html#L73 ;)
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voxpelli (funny how both our weird contents are on line 73 of a post-content include :P)
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miklb voxpelli that actually helped me know I could chain liquid filters :)
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gRegorLove Watched the Düsseldorf demo of OwnTracks. That was pretty cool!
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gRegorLove What is OwnTracks?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/OwnTracks
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@jeffreycwitt .@cjs64 Yes, see my presentation tomorrow. http://lombardpress.org/slides/2016-05-11-iiif-webmentions/#/ Libraries that share their mss images via #iiif can receive info back (twitter.com/_/status/730116299418898432)
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@jeffreycwitt @cjs64 see also: http://lombardpress.org/2016/04/16/iiif-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/730116877339525120)
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GWG Afternoon
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gRegorLove Hey GWG. How's the WordPress universe?
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GWG I am reading about WP Cron
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GWG I have two ideas I wanted to explore
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GWG Delaying sending webmentions and asynchronous verification
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GWG I think I can use WP Cron for asynchronous processing without creating a race condition, which is the concern.
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GWG I am trying to decide if I should just build it.
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gRegorLove GWG: Welcome to reference https://github.com/gRegorLove/ProcessWire-Webmention/blob/master/Webmention/Webmention.module#L477 for how I implemented async processing. Every minute it processes up to 5 webmentions.
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GWG I just have to be careful
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gRegorLove build fast and break things! ;)
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gRegorLove One thing about WP Cron is that I think it can hold up the page load. Maybe that's been chagned in WP core since I last use WP cron though.
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GWG I am still hoping for Pfefferle to return. I need structure
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GWG It can. That is what makes it hard
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GWG I want to have three webmention handlers built into the plugin. Synchronous, Asynchronous, and Drop In
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GWG Drop In being delegation to a service worker of some kind.
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GWG To address usage needs.
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petermolnar GWG WP Cron can be a nightmare, feel free to poke me any time
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petermolnar I had to explore it thoroughly
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GWG petermolnar, offer accepted
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petermolnar gRegorLove it can, if it's not a real cron
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petermolnar so you need to think in batches and queues
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petermolnar (real cron => wp cron is called from system cron )
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gRegorLove petermolnar: Yeah, and if output buffering isn't used. Surprised they haven't implemented that, to keep it from slowing page loads.
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aaronpk Limiting the number a single request processes should
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aaronpk solve it right?
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aaronpk Since you can set a timeout limit on fetching a source URL
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aaronpk (the good news is in practice it shouldn't slow down that many real page loads since ambient bot traffic will also trigger wp-cron)
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[kevinmarks] rather than limiting number, ideally set a time threshold and process up until that
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[kevinmarks] that way you scale based on load
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@LukasRosenstock A personal website with conversational #UI - interesting and unique approach by @azumbrunnen_: https://azumbrunnen.me/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730140711031607296)
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@APPLEvFBI Visualizations of the #ApplevsFBI related hashtags from Webmention: https://twitter.com/APPLEvFBI/status/730141692670693376/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/730141692670693376)
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Jeena so aaronpk I guess I remember why I put the invisible title in my notes, because the name which gets generated automatically looks ridiciolous https://aaronparecki.com/2016/05/10/31/video
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] After reading this, I'm seriously considering publishing my conference videos on Amazon's new Video Direct! http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/10/amazon-takes-on-youtube-with-launch-of-amazon-video-direct/...
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@webrocker hoping to stay in contact with all the people i had the pleasure to get to know at @btconf and @indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/730154022775181318)
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@m_ott @webrocker @btconf @indiewebcamp Definitely! That's what Twitter is for. Or email. ;) (twitter.com/_/status/730154838890270721)
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@arirose_ny Short domain for my upcoming #indieweb publishing page successfully registered. Read more at http://indieberger.mediaberger.com/note/new-short-domain-registered--25/ (twitter.com/_/status/730155217828913152)
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@chrisbergr RT @arirose_ny Short domain for my upcoming #indieweb publishing page successfully registered. Read more at http://indieberger.mediaberger.com/note/new-short-domain-registered--25/ (twitter.com/_/status/730157268197584896)
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@jkphl Back home, happy to see my (sleeping) wife & daughter. It was an awesome trip — thanks to everyone involved! #btconf #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/730158677466959872)
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@chrisbergr @LukasRosenstock @azumbrunnen_ Ohh, this is awesome. I really love it! :) But.. I don't get the relation to the indieweb here. (twitter.com/_/status/730159053620547585)
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@LukasRosenstock @chrisbergr @azumbrunnen_ I found the link on the @IndieWebCamp wiki; also I'd say every personal website is part of the #indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/730161116370849794)
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@m_ott Back home after four wonderful days in DDorf. It was a real pleasure to meet all of you at #IndieWebCamp and #btconf! Thank you so much! (twitter.com/_/status/730162184668495872)
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@chrisbergr @LukasRosenstock Now I see it :) Thought being part of it starts with http://indiewebify.me/ level 1 ;) // @azumbrunnen_ @indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/730162262141480962)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@chrisbergr @LukasRosenstock personal website == indieweb :) all the microformats/indieauth/webmention/etc. is just one way of doing it." https://kylewm.com/2016/05/chrisbergr-lukasrosenstock-personal-website-indieweb
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@kylewmahan @chrisbergr @LukasRosenstock personal website == indieweb :) all the microformats/indieauth/webmention/etc. is just one way of doing it. (twitter.com/_/status/730165727496261633)
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kylewm love when PuSH beats twitter!
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kylewm Superfeedr++
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[benatwork] julien++
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[benatwork] Did I get that wrong :neutral_face:
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kylewm !karma julien51
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@benwerd http://www.cameronsworld.net/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730170316941496320)
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Loqi [indieweb] "http://www.cameronsworld.net/ #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/-indieweb-1
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[benatwork] julien51++
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Loqi [indieweb] "cameronsworld.net" http://www.cameronsworld.net
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@krisshaffer @brynmdhughes Our whole convo got picked up by webmentions on this post, since you replied to my post tweet. :) http://kris.shaffermusic.com/2016/05/exploring-some-basic-musical-data-in-R/ (twitter.com/_/status/730171311675166720)
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@krisshaffer @brynmdhughes Not your fault. Webmentions don't have all the kinks worked out yet. (twitter.com/_/status/730174338733740040)
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[kevinmarks] I win https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/05/09/the-hottest-trend-in-web-design-is-intentionally-ugly-unusable-sites/
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[kevinmarks] Well, not sure about intentionally
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@digitalWestie RT @benwerd http://www.cameronsworld.net/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730183188778258433)
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