#indiewebcamp 2016-05-12

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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (-98) "/* IndieWebCamp */ update next IndieWebCamps!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IndieWebCamps () "(-29943) move IWC Düsseldorf here from homepage, update next IWCs!" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Good evening, IWC
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acegiak bootstrap is the default for known isn't it?
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Loqi acegiak: GWG left you a message on 4/25 at 10:54pm: Looked at your salmentions code. I think it doesn't quite fit where you put it. Might play with it a bit. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-25/line/1461650038871
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acegiak also, hi!
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KevinMarks yes, known uses bootstrap
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acegiak coolios
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acegiak working on a thing that might need to be able to be plugged into known, making sure I have all my bunnies in a row
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acegiak GWG: Feel free to play with my code for any of those sorts of things. I always just put it where it works first, not necessarily where it belongs
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GWG acegiak, want to see mine?
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acegiak GWG: if you link me I can take a look later today
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acegiak at work at the moment
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GWG acegiak, https://github.com/dshanske/wordpress-semantic-linkbacks
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GWG Just look at the preprocess branch
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GWG I did a lot
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bear loqi que pasa?
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Loqi :)
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Loqi [indieweb] "miklb pushed to gh-pages at miklb/jekyll-indieweb" by miklb https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb/compare/9d9e68e91d...5beb0a26ab
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Loqi [indieweb] "miklb pushed to master at miklb/jekyll-indieweb" by miklb https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb/compare/40913e2907...7ffe1db895
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Loqi [indieweb] "miklb closed issue miklb/jekyll-indieweb#3" by miklb https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb/issues/3
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@regisrob RT @cgknowles #IIIF Web Mentions blogpost http://lombardpress.org/2016/04/16/iiif-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/730574282305241088)
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[shaners] HWC LA is starting
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GWG Yay?
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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GWG I wish I could participate in an HWC online as I can't get people together in New York.
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miklb GWG I'd be up to joining you, haven't found any interest down here.
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GWG miklb: Where do you live again? I'm always bad on that.
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miklb Tampa
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GWG A bit far to drive.
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miklb pretty much everything is a bit far of a drive for me
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miklb except the beach, which keeps me here :)
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GWG I would come down for a Florida IWC.
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miklb There is a entry in the possible sites in the wiki for an Orlando one. Not sure it has gotten any interest either. Some day though!
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GWG I'd come to Orlando.
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GWG And I think tantek likes It's a Small World.
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tantek !tell adactio can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club Brighton? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks!
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tantek !tell Jeena can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club Göteborg? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell aaronpk can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club Portland? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell jgarber can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club DC? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb I think jgarber was looking for a new venue
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GWG Well, I'd go to DC also.
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GWG I'd go anywhere. Although I have to balance it financially.
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tantek I just realized I missed a lot of whitespace in plain text note publishing conversation earlier today on IRC
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tantek !tell KevinMarks, Jeena, aaronpk, KartikPrabhu, kylewm could you add your observations today 2016-05-11 in IRC about whitespace in plain text note publising to https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Whitespace including examples of what you do on your own notes to: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#IndieWeb_Whitespace_Examples Thanks! (next time hopefully you can cite that!)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[shaners] HWC LA: attendance 3.
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[shaners] HWC LA: Kyle Ponce, Annie Ho, Shane Becker.
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@veganstraightedge Demoing #POSSE syndication from my site to Twitter using @DarkMatterAppCo at Homebrew Website Club (LA). #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730587193115299840)
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[shaners] I demoed my site, show multiple post types, Dark Matter post editing, gave a quick primer on rel-me/indieauth, POSSE.
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[shaners] Now adding rel-me links to Kyle’s site. Anni is setting up a Jekyll + GitHub Pages site.
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miklb [shaners] not sure how far she is in setting it up, but shameless plug, I have an indieweb friendly Jekyll theme that is GitHub pages friendly. https://github.com/miklb/jekyll-indieweb
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TonyD Working remotely, affiliated with LA
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miklb welcome
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TonyD [shaners] do you know a good way currently to push an updated version of darkmatter to my website hosted on heroku?
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TonyD I've not yet used a git tool to push this website
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kylewm.com edited /note (-2) "/* IndieWeb Whitespace Examples */ update my example. the previous example was out-dated (reviews were since converted to a first-class post type)" (view diff)
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TonyD and I've only used git heroku tools to push heroku based websites
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kylewm o/
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 1 hour, 5 minutes ago: could you add your observations today 2016-05-11 in IRC about whitespace in plain text note publising to https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Whitespace including examples of what you do on your own notes to: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#IndieWeb_Whitespace_Examples Thanks! (next time hopefully you can cite that!) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018916983
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miklb TonyD you could probably use something like TravisCI or some other CI tool
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miklb forgets where bear works
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TonyD miklb, I'm asking an even more basic question unfortunately :( From having a website that was set up with darkmatter's publish to heroku turnkey, I'm wondering how to update to the latest version of darkmatter
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miklb TonyD apologies. I misunderstood the question
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TonyD np- I like your idea though. I wonder if I can get a travis build to poll [shaners]'s repo and just automatically keep my site up to date
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TonyD that could be handy
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kyleponce.com created /User:Kyleponce.com (+172) "Created page with "= Kyle Ponce = [http://kyleponce.com Kyle Ponce dot com] Added rel-me links and h-card to my site at Homebrew website club LA thanks to {{veganstraightedge}}! 2016-05-11."" (view diff)
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[shaners] TonyD: that would be handy
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[shaners] Please do investigate :wink:
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TonyD [shaners] it looks like Heroku itself allows you to track a Github repo, so that's useful for people that are forking DM, but less useful for turnkey ability
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miklb couldn't you set up a repo with a 2nd remote origin and when you pull in changes trigger a deploy? Not automated, but a start?
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miklb 2nd remote being DM that is
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GWG I'm thinking of writing some error handling code
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[shaners] TonyD: you still around? (sorry, conversation was riveting / distracting me from channel)
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[shaners] !tell TonyD: miklb has the right idea. Until Dark Matter has software updates built in, the process looks like this to update a site that is deployed using the Heroku Deploy Button (assumes you’ve already git pushed to heroku before based on your previous messages). 1) git clone git@github.com:darkmatterapp/publisher-server-rails.git 2) git remote add heroku https://git.heroku.com/[YOUR HEROKU APPNAME].git 3) git pull origin master
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[shaners] heroku master Give that a try sometime and lemme know how it goes.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@veganstraightedge Another small but successful Homebrew Website Club LA (me @annieholly @kyleponce). #indieweb https://twitter.com/veganstraightedge/status/730618645273939968/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/730618645273939968)
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@deathwizard57 RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 76 (twitter.com/_/status/730403231134797825)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 76 (twitter.com/_/status/730403088796930049)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 25 (twitter.com/_/status/729912358580174848)
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@dustinboston @voxpelli I cant get webmentions to install: `npm run install-schema` throws "Cannot find module 'bluebird/js/main/promise'". Any ideas? (twitter.com/_/status/730621437778624512)
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@veganstraightedge At HWC, @KylePonce added rel-me links + h-card to his site, logged into the indiewebcamp wiki, created a user page. http://kyleponce.com (twitter.com/_/status/730623745736491008)
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veganstraightedge.com edited /events/2016-05-11-homebrew-website-club (+139) "/* Blog posts */" (view diff)
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[shaners] And that’s it from me. Good night, all.
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Loqi laila tov!
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@kevinmarks @benwerd right, @moxie is discounting the http://indiewebcamp.com/monoculture problem, and @dalmaer has a point on the centralised failures (twitter.com/_/status/730626612211785728)
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@kevinmarks @benwerd @moxie @dalmaer http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths is salutary reading for the "centralised beats open" theory (twitter.com/_/status/730627195983405057)
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GWG !tell petermolnar I added a hook through which all errors are funneled if anyone wanted to log it.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@IndieWebCampDE Jemand Lust auf den großen Sprung? Vom 4. bis 5. Juni findet in Portland, OR, das große #IndieWeb Summit statt: http://2016.indieweb.org (twitter.com/_/status/730660424417484800)
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petermolnar GWG looks good
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Loqi petermolnar: GWG left you a message 2 hours, 17 minutes ago: I added a hook through which all errors are funneled if anyone wanted to log it. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463033487984
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Jeena !tell tantek we're switching venues because the Steampunk Bar was a bit expensive for the students
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 29 minutes ago: can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club Göteborg? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018438741
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 6 hours, 21 minutes ago: could you add your observations today 2016-05-11 in IRC about whitespace in plain text note publising to https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Whitespace including examples of what you do on your own notes to: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#IndieWeb_Whitespace_Examples Thanks! (next time hopefully you can cite that!) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018916983
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Jeena but yes I will put it up there today
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Loqi [indieweb] "openSUSE News: openSUSE Conference Proposals Accepted, Tracks Listed" https://news.opensuse.org/2016/05/09/opensuse-conference-proposals-accepted-tracks-listed/
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aaronpk after all the futzing with finding a screenshot app for osx that can make an HTTP post, I just wrote an automator workflow to do it instead
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 12 minutes ago: can you confirm/add venue for next week's Homebrew Website Club Portland? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-05-18-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018446095
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 4 minutes ago: could you add your observations today 2016-05-11 in IRC about whitespace in plain text note publising to https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Whitespace including examples of what you do on your own notes to: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#IndieWeb_Whitespace_Examples Thanks! (next time hopefully you can cite that!) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018916983
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cweiske is shutter available on osx?
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aaronpk looks like it is
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aaronpk hasn't been updated in 5 years tho
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cweiske then it isn't the "real" one
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cweiske http://shutter-project.org/ is the one I use on linux
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cweiske I made my own scp plugin for it for uploading
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aaronpk oh, yeah it was just another app called shutter
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cweiske and there are a number of HTTP post plugins there
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aaronpk some of the screenshot apps support scp, but i want http
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aaronpk eh, it's a one-line bash script
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aaronpk curl -i -F "photo=@$1" -H "Authorization: Bearer YOUR_ACCESS_TOKEN" https://example.com/micropub/media | grep Location: | sed -En 's/^Location: (.+)/\1/p' | pbcopy
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aaronpk woo! https://aaronparecki.com/media/file-20160512103105-99731.png
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cweiske nice
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aaronpk my only complaint is it's definitely slower than the dropbox auto-upload
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aaronpk there seems to be a delay before automator triggers the action when the file is added to the folder
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cweiske because it isn't sure when file writing is finished?
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aaronpk no idea. it's built in to automator so i assume it would be smart about that kind of thing.
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@mrclay_org RT @kevinmarks @benwerd @moxie @dalmaer http://indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths is salutary reading for the "centralised beats open" theory (twitter.com/_/status/730714414991740928)
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@mrclay_org @kevinmarks @benwerd off topic: does #indieweb have any resources for managing (and backing up) personal domain email long term? (twitter.com/_/status/730715411252121601)
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@hex_pm webmentions (0.1.0): A Webmentions (https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention) module for Elixir https://hex.pm/packages/webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/730754417062871040)
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hongpong so did all that DRM bullshit get approved at the W3C or not? http://boingboing.net/2016/05/03/the-open-webs-guardians-are.html
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hongpong https://www.w3.org/2016/03/EME-factsheet.html is this thing a final thing https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ ?
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Loqi [David Dorwin] Encrypted Media Extensions
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miklb ah, that was weird. Getting around to testing notes with Quill. Clicking "post" forwarded me to the URL of the note, but since it's Jekyll and the post hadn't published yet, got a 404, so didn't know the note had processed.
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miklb I'm having difficulty finding documentation on how to add syndicate-to links to a header? What is the correct markup for that?
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kylewm miklb: syndicate-to endpoints are sent in response to a micropub GET request with ?q=syndicate-to
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kylewm they are not sent in a header
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kylewm https://indiewebcamp.com/Micropub-brainstorming#Discovering_Supported_Syndication_Targets
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miklb kylewm so how do I set a syndication target on my site? from the Quill UI "No syndication targets were found on your site."
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kylewm atually this is the most up to date: https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#syndication-targets
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Micropub
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miklb so it's in the micropub endpoint and not on the site itself?
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kylewm right
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miklb ah. OK. That's not clear in the message in Quill.
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miklb rather, I didn't get that from the message
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miklb kylewm thanks for walking me through that
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kylewm np :) maybe the Quill message should link to that bit of the spec
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kylewm otherwise, it's sort of hard to convey in a short message
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miklb it has some documentation it links to, but I didn't grok the difference
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miklb I'll need to touch base with voxpelli to sort out how to include that in the micropub endpoint then
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kylewm miklb: how do you do syndication usually?
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miklb kylewm prior to getting micropub working I was using the hidden bridgy link in my posts
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@kevinmarks @h0d3r come join us at http://indiewebcamp.com - we have @Blogger and @WordPress integrations (twitter.com/_/status/730813901965680640)
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[shaners] Morning, channel.
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tantek shaners++ for getting more people onto the indieweb! well done!
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Loqi tantek: Jeena left you a message 10 hours, 24 minutes ago: we're switching venues because the Steampunk Bar was a bit expensive for the students http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463041780236
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Loqi shaners has 38 karma
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tantek reads logs
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tantek !tell shaners I like the sweet ultraminimal "HOMEBREW WEBSITE CLUB" signs you made - can you link to them / upload for printing to https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Setup where it says "make or bring a sign"?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@devleakslinks The #IndieWeb is important - it focuses on You, not the corporations that own the big silo content farms. http://devleaks.com/link/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730834938803699713)
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[kevinmarks] I thought Google had .blog : https://twitter.com/VentureBeat/status/730807416481304578?s=09
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: tantek left you a message 16 hours, 55 minutes ago: could you add your observations today 2016-05-11 in IRC about whitespace in plain text note publising to https://indiewebcamp.com/note#Whitespace including examples of what you do on your own notes to: https://indiewebcamp.com/note#IndieWeb_Whitespace_Examples Thanks! (next time hopefully you can cite that!) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-11/line/1463018916983
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@VentureBeat Automattic quietly acquired the rights to .blog and will start selling domains this year http://venturebeat.com/2016/05/12/automattic-quietly-acquired-the-rights-to-blog-in-2015-will-start-selling-domains-later-this-year/ [photo] (twitter.com/_/status/730807416481304578)
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tantek I love it, bringing back the .blog
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gRegorLove Interesting site-death^^. "We’re printing”Š—”Šusing a microscopic ion-etching process”Š—”Šthe entire website upon a 2" × 2" nickel plate, giving it a fire- and saltwater-resistant shelf life of 10,000 years."
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tantek huh
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tantek printing *in what format*, for *what* reader?
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gRegorLove Hopefully HTML, but dunno
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gRegorLove "The process does not produce “data.” It is not like a CD. It is not a composition of 0's and 1's representing the information. It is the information itself. The nickel plate is a medium, not media. And everything printed on the plate will be readable with an optical microscope."
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gRegorLove "We will keep an online archive of all of the content of Hi.co up for at least ten years (with a much longer aim, but a minimum of ten)."
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gRegorLove Props for their ambition
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[kevinmarks] aaronpk thread on scaling type to fit a box https://twitter.com/rem/status/730830412893827072?s=09
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@rem Is there a non-JS based technique for sizing text to a fixed bounding box (by width by height)? (twitter.com/_/status/730830412893827072)
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GWG Afternoon
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tantek !tell adactio,benwerd,GWG,kevinmarks,kylewm,gRegorLove,KartikPrabhu,shaners,tbrb,rhiaro,marcthiele,jkphl,sandro,andicascadesf,tommorris are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek nicely done shaners, beat me to it before I could copy/paste all the names for the tell
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GWG Hello, tantek.
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GWG I got another patch committed to WordPress.
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tantek GWG++ woohoo! nice work!
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Loqi GWG has 157 karma
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GWG Basically, all of my successful patches have circled around what Webmentions can't so
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tantek !tell snarfed,bret,dietrich,crystal,jgarber,Jeena,voxpelli are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG So, the more built into WordPress, the leaner the Webmentions plugin gets
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GWG Without actually getting webmentions in,alas
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GWG But It isn't ready
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tantek GWG, whatever implementation strategy gets the functionality in there. The less plugin code the better.
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GWG I don't think the community is ready for a flood of webmentions from every WordPress site either
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gRegorLove tantek: Maybe. I have the day off but haven't finalized my travel plans yet.
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 11 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083099732
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GWG gRegorLove, what is missing?
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GWG I am also trying to backport some improvements into pingbacks concurrently
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kylewm yes + yes
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 13 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083099732
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GWG kylewm, we will finally meet.
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kylewm looking forward to it!
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GWG I want to hear all about Hamilton
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@kevinmarks Facebook publishes a list if the feeds they crawl - in pdf! http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/05/information-about-trending-topics/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730853539442884608)
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@IMJACKTG RT @kevinmarks Facebook publishes a list if the feeds they crawl - in pdf! http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/05/information-about-trending-topics/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730853604303732736)
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GWG I am curious, what the Indiewebcamp community needs to do to be prepared for a large amount of websites getting webmentions support
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veganstraightedge.com edited /logo (+327) "/* Update Proposed New Logo with finalized logotype */" (view diff)
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kodfabrik.se edited /2016/Leaders (+131) "/* Regrets */ Sadly not going :(" (view diff)
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[benatwork] Queues queues queues
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[benatwork] re: webmentions
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[benatwork] And vouch
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voxpelli yeah, be prepared for spam-handling and maybe block-lists
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Loqi voxpelli: tantek left you a message 28 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083374469
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miklb voxpelli have I missed something in your micropub client where to configure syndicate-to links?
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voxpelli miklb: yes and no
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miklb :)
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voxpelli miklb: the Micropub express module supports arbitrary queries to be sent in, but the main project provides no responses for any
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jeena.net edited /2016/Leaders (+69) "/* Remote Participation */ Jeena" (view diff)
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@kreshleman Indie Web Summit in Portland, OR; http://2016.indieweb.org/ June 3-5 #IndieEdTech (twitter.com/_/status/730861856621879297)
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Jeena automatic RSVP from my website to a wiki page would be cool
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 52 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083374469
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gRegorLove GWG: Just haven't booked lodging and decided when I'm getting into PDX yet.
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tantek wow scrollback
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gRegorLove As in, there actually is some scrollback? :)
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miklb voxpelli any pointers on how I might implement that then?
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voxpelli miklb: https://github.com/voxpelli/node-micropub-express/pull/2 can probably help
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@veganstraightedge Indie Web Camp logo redesign: Final Versions #indieweb http://veganstraightedge.com/articles/2016/05/12/indie-web-camp-logo-redesign-final-versions https://twitter.com/veganstraightedge/status/730872759350255616/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/730872759350255616)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Events" by Tantek https://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php?title=Events&diff=1132504&oldid=1123852
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@AAinslie RT @kevinmarks Facebook publishes a list if the feeds they crawl - in pdf! http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/05/information-about-trending-topics/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730876140232036353)
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aaronpk Jeena: did you see how I did RSVPs for http://2016.indieweb.org? From your own site to that page directly!
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Loqi IndieWeb Summit
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tantek.com edited /Events (+856) "note btconf Berlin, placeholder for 2017 btconf Düsseldorf" (view diff)
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miklb voxpelli thanks for the link. I understand the basic logic, but implementation escapes me. Time to go to nodeschool :-)
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voxpelli miklb: I can probably make an example in the near future if you remind me :) Now: Sleep ;)
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miklb voxpelli sure thing :-)
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+101) "rotate next HWC" (view diff)
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[shaners] Need to see 22 tshirts in 3 days
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[shaners] https://teespring.com/indiewebcamp
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Loqi [shaners]: tantek left you a message 3 hours, 4 minutes ago: I like the sweet ultraminimal "HOMEBREW WEBSITE CLUB" signs you made - can you link to them / upload for printing to https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Setup where it says "make or bring a sign"? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463079500994
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Loqi [shaners]: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 4 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083099732
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Jeena aaronpk, no I haven't but it looks really cool!
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KevinMarks shaners: no SVG?
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Loqi KevinMarks: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 5 minutes ago: are you coming to the Leaders Summit? Can you RSVP here accordingly? https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#RSVP http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-05-12/line/1463083099732
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[shaners] kevinmarks: Good point. Create an issue for me?
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KevinMarks https://github.com/indieweb/branding/issues/5
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[shaners] Thanks
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tantek shaners, for /2016/homepage - to get some thoughts started, have you seen examples of homepages of communities that you find more welcoming / inspiring? I also think this feeds well into the /Generations discussion (per who is the audience).
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tantek aside: I like how we our use of /2016/... is refuting all assumptions of needs for strict namespaces/delineation and such, since we're using /2016/... for both IndieWeb Summit 2016 sessions, and the home pages of other 2016 IndieWebCamps
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tantek namespaces--
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Loqi namespaces has -4 karma
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tantek wonders if the email "this week" can handle an animated gif
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tantek decides to find out
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[shaners] tantek: I’ll add more thoughts soon. I just wanted to capture it on the wiki lest I forget.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Self-hosted Known 0.8.5 has left the building - with better indieweb, micropub and AMP support." by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/self-hosted-known-085-has-left-the-building---with-better
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Loqi [indieweb] "A short note about web standards from your friends at Known" by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/a-short-note-about-web-standards-from-your-friends-at
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Loqi [indieweb] "Why we built Known" by Ben Werdmuller http://stream.withknown.com/2015/why-we-built-known
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tantek shaners, great. Also I'd like to take this opportunity to challeng you to come up with a *positive* framing/focus for a homepage redesign, rather than avoiding/improving on "still too overwhelming". "make it responsive" is a good start, but we could do that with existing content. As you said, we can do better. :)
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tantek s/challeng/challenge
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Loqi tantek meant to say: shaners, great. Also I'd like to take this opportunity to challenge you to come up with a *positive* framing/focus for a homepage redesign, rather than avoiding/improving on "still too overwhelming". "make it responsive" is a good start, but we could do that with existing content. As you said, we can do better. :)
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tantek Flickr album from IWC Düsseldorf: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/albums/72157667827003412 <-- who wants to suggest a good "main" photo to include inline on /2016/Düsseldorf ?
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[shaners] tantek: will do
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tantek shaners, I think your instincts are good here. With the new logo, it's also a good opportunity for a homepage refresh
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[shaners] :+1::skin-tone-2:
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[shaners] I’m very +1 about #2016/newskin
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gRegorLove Seconded
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@djp1974 RT @kevinmarks Facebook publishes a list if the feeds they crawl - in pdf! http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/05/information-about-trending-topics/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730892103920828416)
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@kevinmarks there must be 21 of you that want #indiewebcamp t-shirts? https://teespring.com/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/730892407881883649)
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tantek shaners, gRegorLove, awesome, add yourselves: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/newskin#Participants :D
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[shaners] thought i already had
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[shaners] MediaWiki is always finding new ways to confound me.
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[shaners] Just now tried to upload the .ai file for that HWC sign (that Tantek suggested uploading).
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[shaners] Error: File extension does not match MIME type.
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[shaners] Permitted file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, txt, svg, ai.
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veganstraightedge.com uploaded /File:homebrew-website-club-sign.svg "Printable sign for Homebrew Website Club meetings"
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[shaners] Uploading SVG didn’t go well either
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[shaners] https://indiewebcamp.com/File:homebrew-website-club-sign.svg
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[shaners] KABLAMMO
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[shaners] tantek: If I email them to you, will you put them on the wiki please?
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@schmarty RT @kevinmarks there must be 21 of you that want #indiewebcamp t-shirts? https://teespring.com/indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/730895677803266048)
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[shaners] kevinmarks: are SVG exports from Illustrator agreeable to you?
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[shaners] kevinmarks: https://github.com/indieweb/branding/commit/d757ff78b9763d3a117a57024d7a4135e1092476
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tantek shaners, I have no idea about problems with ai or svg uploads. not sure I could do any better. :/
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[shaners] mediawiki--
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Loqi mediawiki has -4 karma
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miklb that's all? :-{
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tantek lol
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tantek how long is it going to take us to replace MediaWiki with an indie wiki aggregator? ;)
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tantek (everyone edits/saves wiki pages on their own site, including their own /edit posts, and then webmentions those to an indie wiki aggregator)
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[shaners] tantek: remove the duck tape and popsicles stick pile of code i had powering my site for years and the process I went through to add new content?
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[shaners] Now, with Dark Matter powering my site, I’m publishing articles more than ever.
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[shaners] It feels good.
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tantek nice
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tantek when did you start publishing first to your site with those data types, instead of PESOSing / backfilling?
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tantek s/data types/post types
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Loqi tantek meant to say: when did you start publishing first to your site with those post types, instead of PESOSing / backfilling?
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[shaners] I’ve always published articles directly to my site. I just had a long complicated way of creating files, regenerating my whole db, pushing it up… it was a mess.
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tantek e.g. see https://indiewebcamp.com/ownyourdata both How and IndieWeb Examples description
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tantek but now you're posting more than just articles to your own site first right?
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[shaners] Oh yeah. Notes, events, etc. Articles are the only posttype that’s been first party the whole time.
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@veganstraightedge Dark Matter and the #IndieWeb http://veganstraightedge.com/articles/2016/05/12/dark-matter-and-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/730909308817281024)