#indiewebcamp

2016-07-29

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cweiske
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KartikPrabhu
/me breaking up the silence
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rMdes_
the other day I loged into Quill with https://www.rmendes.net - the next day I was lazy to type all this, so I typed https://rmendes.net to log in, this is when Quill told me that I had already a profile with www. - there was no way but to log off and login back with https://www. - I was wondering if there would be a way to tie both domains, for the sake of simplification, or is that a non-issue ?
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cweiske
not-www redirects to www, so quill could do the same
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@RikMende
I have been using https://woodwind.xyz/ to follow #indieweb sites either "hand-crafted" static sites or… https://www.rmendes.net/2016/i-have-been-using-to-follow-indieweb-sites-either-hand-crafted (twtr.io/1FJacMM1Wx4)
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rMdes_
cweiske, that would solve the issue indeed
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rMdes_
strange part is my domain is supposed to redirect non-www to www, but it seems Quill can't do it
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rMdes
just noticed the #Known channel on https://chat.indieweb.org/ is incorrect, it should be #Knownchat
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rMdes
unless it's actually the name of the tab ?
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rMdes
it's OK it actually #KnownChat but the name of the tab is #Known
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[kevinmarks]
Site death: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/29/melania-trump-website-take-down-donald-reputation
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@SK_Holder
https://ecommerceflight.ecwid.com/#!/Make-Money-With-Kindle/p/68827709/category=20296753 #selfpub #writer #indieweb https://twitter.com/SK_Holder/status/758998815454089216/photo/1 (twtr.io/1FJsyi_f2Zb)
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j4y_funabashi
Hey does anyone know how I can markup different versions of a photo? Eg fullsize vs resized?
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j4y_funabashi
I resize all my photos and display the resized version but I would like to link to the original
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j4y_funabashi
My use case is that I would like to print a bunch of photos
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cweiske
I use <a href="orig.jpg"><img src="small.jpg"/></a>
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j4y_funabashi
cweiske: I don't really want to link to the original from the thumbnail as the originals are >4mb
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j4y_funabashi
I want something similar to Facebook 'view original' link
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j4y_funabashi
And a way to mark this up so I can tell them apart
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voxpelli
j4y_funabashi: mark up as in microformats 2 markup?
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j4y_funabashi
Yeah
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j4y_funabashi
So I can have multiple photos in a photo post and a way to tell which is a thumbnail and which is original
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j4y_funabashi
So I can render them differently
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voxpelli
j4y_funabashi: just put the "u-photo" on the "view original" and not on the other?
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j4y_funabashi
Wouldn't that mean readers render the >4mb one?
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voxpelli
j4y_funabashi: well, readers should like eg. Facebook does resize and render the images themselves in the format that's suitable for them
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voxpelli
if you give them the small one then it will be impossible for them to render at a larger format than your thumbnail
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j4y_funabashi
Multiple u-photo seems like the right way to go but would need a way to indicate that 2 photos are versions of the same image
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voxpelli
when I worked at Bloglovin I was always annoyed when we were given small thumbnails in the RSS as it made it much harder for us to present a good image
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voxpelli
j4y_funabashi: multiple sounds wrong to me
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j4y_funabashi
Ah yeah that's true
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voxpelli
j4y_funabashi: if you want to do it "right", then you could do a <picture> or img srcset and put u-photo on that, but I think few/none parsers yet support picture/srcset
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voxpelli
my workaround at Bloglovin was to start download the images people gave to Facebook instead as those were more often high res
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j4y_funabashi
Yeah picture is definitely where I want to go
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voxpelli
u-photo on img srcset should work already
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voxpelli
it would just fallback to the img src while browsers would pick the most suitable size
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voxpelli
and parsers could start parsing srcset if they wanted size alternatives
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j4y_funabashi
OK that sounds interesting, will have a read of the picture spec, thanks voxpelli
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KevinMarks1
Reply All is all about Site deaths this week https://gimletmedia.com/episode/71-the-picture-taker/
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@kevinmarks
the latest episode is about site deaths https://indieweb.org/site-deaths - one answer is to join multiple cloud services https://twitter.com/replyall/status/758511999261237248 (twtr.io/1FKAeVjk_dw)
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KevinMarks1
hm, I wonder if Loqi could suppress duplicate joins like these http://indieweb.org/irc/2016-07-29/line/1469800451596
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miklb
yeah, that's a bit obnoxious
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aaronpk
wow
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aaronpk
yeah i should clean that up on the logs
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aaronpk
it's still spamming the crap out of my irc client
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bear
that is the first thing I turn off in my IRC clients: join/part notifications
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tantek
aaronpk: banned Tristitia from the channel until they sort that out
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aaronpk
cool. they're also in #pdxtech so I asked in there what's up
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aaronpk
funny enough, not doing the rapid join/part in that channel
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tantek
I wonder if it is due to the redirect?
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tantek
and a bug in their client?
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aaronpk
oh hey, i'm verified on twitter now
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aaronpk
I didn't even notice the email
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aaronpk
https://aaronparecki.com/media/file-20160729173356-90382.png
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aaronpk
benwerd is too! https://twitter.com/benwerd
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tantek
wat
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tantek
what is verified?
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Loqi
verified refers to a content or profile that is verified to belong to a certain identity https://indieweb.org/verified
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tantek
^^^ add to IndieWeb Examples :P
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miklb
first examples of verified from new system. everyone else I've seen on Twitter who applied got turned down. Was starting to think it was just a publicity stunt
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tantek
Missed this a couple of weeks ago: silos gonna silo: FB c&d'd and blocked Power "app" from enabling contacts portability and federating of messages from their users *with user permission* to FB users: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/12/9th-circuit-its-a-federal-crime-to-visit-a-website-after-being-told-not-to-visit-it/ and FB sued under CFAA.
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tantek
Facebook--
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Loqi
facebook has -16 karma (-15 in this channel)
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tantek
portable contacts, provoking silos into siloing since ... forever?
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tantek
via benwerd/benatwork
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tantek
or I should say, @benwerd
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singpolyma
CFAA is terrifying
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tantek
it's what did aaronsw in :(
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tantek
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atantek.com+CFAA
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tantek
CFAA--
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Loqi
cfaa has -1 karma
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singpolyma
sometimes I think things aren't necessarily much better here than in USA, but then I read another CFAA case
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tantek
where is here?
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singpolyma
(I mean for me of course, with all my privilege. we definitely have less police shootings, etc, but that's a different problem)
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singpolyma
tantek: Canada
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miklb
voxpelli have you tested that webmention microservice yet?
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miklb
webmention-hook
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miklb
s/webmention-hook/webhook-mentions/