#indiewebcamp

2017-01-11

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pfefferle
good morning
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Zegnat
Published my first RSVP! https://licit.li/587642007b9fc
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petermolnar
I've signed up for my local Makespace community (~hackerspace, but this is Britain, so it's named differently); it has regular events. I'm thinking to announce HWC as a regular meeting there and see if anyone gets interested; since it's due to happen at the same times as the brighton one in worst case, I'll just be online during the time being. Opinions? I don't know how else I could start drag people into indieweb from there :)
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Zegnat
Aaand Loqi again can’t fetch my posts?! :(
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petermolnar
what is Loqi?
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Loqi
Loqi is a friendly and useful bot present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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petermolnar
ok, we have Loqi, so it's not the lack of Loqi, Zegnat
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Zegnat
No, we have had this happen before. I think Loqi is still using XRay on Google's app hosting, and it sometimes times out when trying to connect to my site
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Zegnat
And then suddenly Loqi will be able to parse it again when aaronpk starts debugging
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Zegnat
What is XRay?
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Loqi
XRay is an open source API that returns structured data for a URL by parsing microformats and following other indieweb algorithms, and is part of the p3k suite of applications https://indieweb.org/XRay
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aaronpk
I don't know why it times out
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Zegnat
Why does it think that page is a feed when I paste in the HTML (instead of letting XRay fetch it)?
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aaronpk
that's interesting
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aaronpk
oh if you include the URL in that form then it works
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aaronpk
it's because there are two mf2 objects on the page, so unless it knows what URL it came from it looks liek a feed
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Zegnat
Aah, gotcha!
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Zegnat
I should really get to hosting my own copy of xray for testing
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aaronpk
it should be pretty easy, there isn't a lot to configure to get it working
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Loqi
yea!
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Zegnat
I just haven't sat myself down to do it, aaronpk. Had other things on my mind.
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aaronpk
have you run php apps before?
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sebsel
Zegnat I had one running at https://xray.5eb.nl It's down on purpose now, but it worked on my lousy shared host!
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sebsel
So it's not hard
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sebsel
Idea about translations on the wiki: we can move them from /page-name-fr to /fr/page-name
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sebsel
you can have / in wiki's pagenames
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aaronpk
why?
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sebsel
it looks better?
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sebsel
I was thinking of possible dublicates where -xx can be needed for a page itself
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sebsel
It might be a bit of inventing a problem
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sebsel
but there are a lot of sites that use /xx/ to translate the content
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Zegnat
aaronpk, I Have Run almost anything PHP. Nothing is stopping mr from setting up XRay apart from scheduling.
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Zegnat
Maybe I'll set it up this HWC!
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aaronpk
cool
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sebsel
(which is in 1 hour here! \o/)
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Zegnat
/me stares off along the tracks looking for the train
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Zegnat
sebsel, you made the train 5 minutes late. Can you fix it?
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KevinMarks_
I think it is inventing a problem. Very few language codes are words (Hi Norwegian)
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Zegnat
Is Islandic is? That would be another word
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sebsel
'en' is a word in Dutch.. ('and'), does that count?
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sebsel
it for Italy
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aaronpk
whoa
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aaronpk
barryf++ for https://indieweb.org/Micropublish
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Loqi
barryf has 6 karma
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aaronpk
barryf just made a nicer quill :)
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[barryf]
Ha, you're too kind, aaronpk. Plenty of things I need to add that Quill does very nicely.
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ben_thatmustbeme
barryf++
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Loqi
barryf has 7 karma
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ben_thatmustbeme
[barryf]: does it support the edit / delete /undelete coming from a url query?
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[barryf]
ben_thatmustbeme I kept those JSON-only. Creates can be form-encoded.
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ben_thatmustbeme
/me tests /new/hentry/reply?in-reply-to=ben.thatmustbe.me and it works!
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ben_thatmustbeme
no no, i mean so i can link directly to "edit this page"
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ben_thatmustbeme
things like that, i've found it very useful internally
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[barryf]
Oh I see, yes in that case!
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[barryf]
I've made some bookmarklets in the about page -- I do exactly that.
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ben_thatmustbeme
ahh, i see them for reply etc, nice
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ben_thatmustbeme
was also wondering about that for edit / delete / undelete
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[barryf]
Good idea. I'll add those three as well.
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petermolnar
[barryf] I'm trying to use it, but it seems to send an immediate request to the micropub endpoint with empty contents, which results in an internal server error response
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ben_thatmustbeme
ah, just tested, i see it just form encoded in the url, nice
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[barryf]
Hmm, sorry petermolnar. I'll have a look.
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ben_thatmustbeme
/me thinks barryf just set a new bar for micropub apps
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aaronpk
petermolnar: you sure that isn't the configuration query?
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petermolnar
it could be
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petermolnar
but it should have some content, shouldn't it?
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petermolnar
unless it's a get which I'm not handling
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petermolnar
quill is working though
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ben_thatmustbeme
it should be hitting ?q=config i'm assuming
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petermolnar
yeah, that is probably not implemented on my side
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aaronpk
And yeah it should be a GET
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petermolnar
can you please point me to docs/drafts on this config request to how I should handle it?
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aaronpk
https://www.w3.org/TR/micropub/#querying
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[barryf]
Yes I think it's the q=config but I should be giving you a more helpful error than that.
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ben_thatmustbeme
actually i'm seeing q=syndicate-to hit me
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ben_thatmustbeme
now i am going to want to work in inkstone more
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ben_thatmustbeme
and just as I was going through an rewriting all of my main site in laravel
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ben_thatmustbeme
#toomanythings
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[barryf]
Funny, I was thinking the same about Inkstone's offline capabilities, ben_thatmustbeme
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[barryf]
Good to have the inspiration
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ben_thatmustbeme
indeed
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aaronpk
makes me want to revamp the quill UI now cause this is way cleaner
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aaronpk
also gonna add http://sliptree.github.io/bootstrap-tokenfield/
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petermolnar
[barryf] I've set it to return an empty json when ?q=config or ?q=syndicate-to is hit, but it still gives me a HTTP 500
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petermolnar
what response should I give?
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petermolnar
ah
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[barryf]
petermolnar it's expecting at least one syndicate-to item but perhaps that's a little too struct
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petermolnar
{"syndicate-to":[]} did the trick
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[barryf]
I'll ensure it can handle an empty response
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ben_thatmustbeme
it should be able to handle {} really
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ben_thatmustbeme
as well
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ben_thatmustbeme
definitely some nice work there [barryf]
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ben_thatmustbeme
aaronpk, need a wider background on https://micropub.rocks/reports
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aaronpk
yeah i gotta fix that
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sebsel
HWC The Netherlands is starting! We're with 4 today :)
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aaronpk
don't forget to take a photo!
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petermolnar
MovingCircusHWCTheNetherlands++
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Loqi
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bjoern
HWC Nuremberg will start soon too
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[barryf]
petermolnar: It'll now happily accept empty json from q=config now, as per the spec.
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petermolnar
nice :)
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tantek
good morning #indieweb from Seattle!
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tantek
/me reads logs
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@Sebsel
I'm at the HWC The Netherlands now, demoing Micropub and https://t.co/07qfFch8Qe! #indieweb (twtr.io/1MHXEXy1__f)
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tantek
how are the HWCs going?
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tantek
/me is in the W3C CSS WG meeting
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tantek
Jeena: How's HWC Göteborg going?
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bjoern
HWC Nuremberg is up and running. Just 3 people, maybe related to all the snow outside. But we're having a good time. ;)
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aaronpk
ooh take a snow picture
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tantek
totally do a snow picture!
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bjoern
juliane says 'not gonna happen' :)
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aaronpk
i'll trade you a nuremberg snow picture for a portland snow picture
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aaronpk
hahahah yesss https://twitter.com/jkphl/status/819240217559388161
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@jkphl
Live from the Frozen Website Club Nuremberg (especially for @t & @aaronpk) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C16GmwlXAA4AESZ.jpg (twtr.io/1MHYg2VxA2g)
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Loqi
hehe
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sebsel
HWC-NL is going great :) just did some explaining and demo'ing
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sebsel
Now we have all laptops out
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sebsel
People are trying to get into their 2 year old WP installs ;)
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tantek
oh my goodness that snowman!
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tantek
photo needs reversing for the text :)
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tantek
(flip along vertical axis)
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tantek
jkphl++
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Loqi
jkphl has 21 karma
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tantek
⛄️⛄️⛄️
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tantek
what is ⛄️
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "⛄️" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10YB
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KevinMarks_
We have a snowman in test code
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tantek
⛄️ is /events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club#Photos
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Loqi
ok
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tantek
lulz << [[⛄️]]
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[⛄️]]" to the "See Also" section of /lulz
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@100daysindieweb
Day 22: XRay Ready for Deployment #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/11/8/xray-deploy (twtr.io/1MHaHHNMAkL)
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sebsel
yaaaay
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sebsel
aaronpk++
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Loqi
aaronpk has 453 karma in this channel (1176 overall)
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aaronpk
woo
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tantek
notable "new" (a month ago) WordPress site: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/12/06/oh-look-a-new-site/
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tantek
GWG, perhaps an opportunity to see what he thinks of adding IndieWeb features :)
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tantek
related: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2016/12/09/rip-citydesk/ (his own software before WordPress)
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KevinMarks_
https://github.com/microformats/xoxo/blob/master/testxoxo.py#a%20snowman
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KevinMarks_
I read that and thought he should switch to Hugo, not WordPress
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tantek
what is Hugo?
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Loqi
Hugo is a static site generator written in Go https://indieweb.org/hugo
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tantek
KevinMarks - look at his post about switching and it took an entire *team* to port his content over
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Loqi
[indieweb] "At Seattle @CSSWG meeting, wearing @IndieWebCamp shirt, watching 2017’s first #indieweb Homebrew Website Club meetups!" on 2017-01-11 http://tantek.com/2017/011/t1/csswg-meeting-first-indieweb-meetups
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@t
At Seattle @CSSWG meeting, wearing @IndieWebCamp shirt, watching 2017’s first #indieweb Homebrew Website Club meetups! (ttk.me t4mH1) (twtr.io/1MHhVbkY33Z)
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tantek
how are the HWC meetups going in Göteborg, Nürnberg, The Netherlands, and Brighton going? any more photos?
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tantek
/me goes to indieweb.org/RSVP#IndieWeb_Examples to copy a previous RSVP no of his and realizes it was a similar situation as now: http://tantek.com/2015/252/t2/homebrew-website-club-sf-pdx
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Loqi
[Tantek Çelik] not going to tonight’s Homebrew Website Club in SF/PDX (I’m @W3CAB in Redmond) but you should! https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-09-09-homebrew-website-club...
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aaronpk
i'm not gonna make it to HWC SF :(
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tantek
aaronpk: awww
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tantek
you could demo all your amazing 2017-01-01-commitment and 100days of!
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aaronpk
all the flights this morning were cancelled in order to plough the runways
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tantek
does that mean you are in PDX still?
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aaronpk
yeah
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aaronpk
with any luck i'll be on the plane at 6pm
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tantek
oh you'll be flying during
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tantek
or HWC PDX literally!
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aaronpk
yeah bad timing
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aaronpk
hah
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tantek
like the foodcourt before security ;)
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tantek
they have a Whole Bowl :)
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tantek
sebsel - any photo from HWC NL?
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GWG
I had some great fish at PDX
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Zegnat
!tell tantek There is a photo of HWC NL again, again taken with my camera. Will get it online as soon as possible.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sebsel
yeah, Zegnat is the photo guy :) we have one, and the permission of the guy who took it for it to be public domain ;)
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KevinMarks1
I could have done it easier than his team, I'd bet. Maybe I should set up a service bureau. Having done Dan's and Chris's
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KevinMarks1
when do you get in aaronpk? We could hang on and have dinner or a drink after
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aaronpk
KevinMarks1: if all goes well i'll land at SFO at 19:43
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Zegnat
HWC photo is up! :D
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Zegnat
sebsel ^
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tantek
Zegnat++ woohoo!
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Loqi
zegnat has 29 karma in this channel (31 overall)
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Loqi
tantek: Zegnat left you a message 1 hour, 46 minutes ago: There is a photo of HWC NL again, again taken with my camera. Will get it online as soon as possible.
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Loqi
:D
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tantek
heh
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tantek
anyone see a photo from Brighton?
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sebsel
yaay for the photo :)
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tantek
I think I'm going to add another text alias for "not going to " for my RSVPing no, as "missing "
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tantek
just searched my post source and my only use of "missing " at the start of text note is for actually missing an event (thus semantically an RSVP no)
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tantek
http://tantek.com/2015/255/t1/celebrate-ariel-matt-tonight
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Loqi
[Tantek Çelik] Missing both #xoxo #xoxofest (for the 1st time) and #dConstruct. Good reason: going to celebrate Ariel & Matt tonight.
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snarfed
tantek: i like it! for event planners before, though, haven't we used "missed" or "missed you" to refer to no-shows?
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snarfed
still probably fine to overload the term though
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tantek
snarfed, specifically, at the start of a *reply* for me
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snarfed
right
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tantek
that's the only place it acts as a hint to upgrade the reply to an RSVP
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KevinMarks
Aaronpk, let me know when you land and we can rendezvous. What part of sf are you staying in?
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aaronpk
I'm actually staying in mountain view so I might just go straight there so I can get some sleep
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KevinMarks
Ah, ok. I can wave at you as I go past on the train then.
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Interview mit Aaron Parecki" by Matthias Pfefferle on 2015-07-23 http://notiz.blog/2015/07/23/interview-mit-aaron-parecki/
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Loqi
[indieweb] "IndieWeb – Die Daten sind wir!" by Matthias Pfefferle on 2015-04-02 http://notiz.blog/2015/04/02/indieweb-die-daten-sind-wir/
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aaronpk
oh hey is that a new .blog domain?
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KartikPrabhu
notiz.blog has been on that for sometime now I think
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tantek
not that long though - I believe Automattic is the registrar for .blog
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tantek
just heard that directly from Mullenweg last September at XOXO in Portland (that they had won the bid for it)
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tantek
(beating out Google FYI)
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aaronpk
notiz.blog registered on nov 21
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GWG
I always wonder if I want to buy such.
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tantek
I'd say Automattic is likely a registrar that will stay around and have fairly good persistence policies
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tantek
what I don't know is if you can do anything besides WordPress on a .blog
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aaronpk
dreamhost just added support for registering .blog domains through them!
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GWG
There is a long list of registrars.
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tantek
right, I forget the different terms between who "owns" a TLD and who can be a registrar for it (and pays that owner per domain)
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KevinMarks
You can, yes. Matt was good about it, but they did reserve some words, which caused a bit of a fuss
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KevinMarks
See Dave.blog
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tantek
what is .blog?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for ".blog" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10YC
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tantek
go for it KevinMarks
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@borismus
@t @csswg @indiewebcamp any cool Seattle indie web events in near future? (twtr.io/1MJAFCv4RjZ)
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KevinMarks
.blog is a top-level domain owned by Automattic that is well integrated with WordPress, buy allows other software to be used.
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Loqi
ok
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GWG
HWC Online hangout- https://hangouts.google.com/call/y5iyrcq2njeo3lcxzilvfdrk4me
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GWG
Youtube http://youtu.be/LOlCs7kZaVs
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@sdepolo
Can you join us tonight for #indieweb (online or in person)?: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club%23RSVP https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/819324301924892672 (twtr.io/1MJC7802qf0)
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GWG
Anyone joining us on HWC Online?
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KevinMarks
I can try form the train 🚂
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sebsel
I'm still awake but it's 2:12 at night here :)
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sebsel
And I already had HWC-nl ^^ good luck yall!
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KevinMarks
Not sure what happens when I switched back to chat
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KevinMarks
See if Aaron's able to join from the plane ✈
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aaronpk
not sure i'll have wifi, these small flights sometimes don't
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KevinMarks
I think the train noise is muting others
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tantek
/me wrote a line of code just to adjust my rsvp no to tonight's HWC
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tantek
/me now to test it in production
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KevinMarks
Seems to be phone coverage in the tunnels now
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@t
missing 2017’s first #indieweb HWCs. Nürnberg, Göteborg, Netherlands: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club%23Photos go SF, ... http://tantek.com/2017/011/t2 (twtr.io/1MJFqzwnpkb)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "missing 2017’s first #indieweb HWCs. Nürnberg, Göteborg, Netherlands: https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club#Photos go SF, Bellingham, & virtual HWC now! https://indieweb.org/events/2017-01-11-homebrew-website-club#Where" on 2017-01-12 http://tantek.com/2017/011/t2/missing-first-indieweb-hwcs-go-now
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tantek
uh why 2017-01-12? is Loqi or Superfeedr in UTC?
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aaronpk
Do you include the timezone in your post?
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aaronpk
hm looks like it
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@ChrisAldrich
#indieweb @dshanske: The number of users of the IndieWeb WordPress Plugin: 200+ installs (twtr.io/1MJG3WYVduw)
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aaronpk
At least in the mf2. Does that make it to the Atom feed?
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@ChrisAldrich
#indieweb @dshanske: The plugin and suite requires the approval of at least 2 people to push any updates. (twtr.io/1MJG6QG6fVs)
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miklb
GWG completely forgot
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Loqi
miklb: petermolnar left you a message 2 days, 16 hours ago: https://wordpress.org/plugins/keyring-social-importers/ - this is a semi-official automattic plugin written by an employee
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tantek
the reply here is hilarious https://twitter.com/adactio/status/819221371020513284 and makes me wonder if they've had trouble with replicants
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@adactio
Are you a human? In Brighton? With a website? Come along to @68MiddleSt at 6pm for Homebrew Website Club. (twtr.io/1MHRx5ghN_j)
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@kevinmarks
@sjenkinson @adactio you see a website, lying on it's back, unresponsive in the baking sun. Why don't you make it mobile first? #indieweb (twtr.io/1MJH6pk89jZ)
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gRegorLove
Hello from Bellingham HWC, party of one.
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gRegorLove
Working on php-mf2 backcompat parsing tonight. Could use some ideas in #microformats if anyone's inclined.
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KevinMarks1
hi gregor
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KevinMarks1
any sign of aaronpk?
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GWG
KevinMarks1: Train leaving on Track 5 for Anaheim, Azusa, and Cucamonga...
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: the difficulty with livetweeting is when you are speaking too (twtr.io/1MJNoRJWQ00)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: http://Svgshare.com is my site for sharing vector images - for example http://svgshare.com/s/Vw is a nice one (twtr.io/1MJNxQ1qF2Q)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: google's chrome is no longer showing flash this week - does SVG help with that? (twtr.io/1MJP4EE_Gf_)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @gundamman: I posted a tweet comparing the GOP to Star Wars https://twitter.com/gundamman/status/817140206868410368 and it got 5 million views (twtr.io/1MJQBgKr46Q)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: I saw a lot of things comparing Trump to Star Wars - was that all you? (twtr.io/1MJQH_W8uKo)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @gundamman: there were a lot of people comparing the plot of star wars films - I get a lot of "life reflecting art" replies (twtr.io/1MJQPysL_mQ)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: oops, I mis-stated - it was Dr Evil from Austin Powers not star wars (twtr.io/1MJQU0JZ0ij)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: I don't have a homebrew site, but I did a 4 hour hackathon on a new website last night (twtr.io/1MJQkSDELwZ)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: I built a birthday website for a friend of mine, and he hasn't seen it yet - it's at http://granisoncrawford.com/ (twtr.io/1MJQrwnboVs)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: it's a wordpress site - today is his birthday, and he has no idea it is up yet (twtr.io/1MJQu9HNkYp)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: this is a new level of indieweb evangelism - making websites for people who don't know you're doing it (twtr.io/1MJQz4cLEnU)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: I'm going to call my friend and tell him to look at http://granisoncrawford.com/ (twtr.io/1MJR5g49E5s)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: Granison is an actor/entertainer with a vertical farming startup, so I wanted to make him a web presence (twtr.io/1MJREhFNqXU)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: How are you? Granison: "I'm Incredible" LM: I want to tell you happy birthday (twtr.io/1MJRKYk2eW8)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: I want you to go to http://granisoncrawford.com/ in the browser on your phone (twtr.io/1MJRNmxqBcb)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Granison: Whoa! Did you make http://granisoncrawford.com/ for me? This is freakin' awesome! You what? (twtr.io/1MJRTzB5brC)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: I'm at the Homebrew indieweb meetup and I think that you're amazing and I want the world to see it too (twtr.io/1MJRXWKSqJf)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb Granison: Thank you! - this is so cool, Liberty, you are so awesome. (twtr.io/1MJR_5pB4fZ)
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@xtof_fr
.@OpenRoot1 merci pr ce devis #TLD Avez-vous un ex. dans la jungle pour 1 test de #performance #jamstack #indieweb http://ducamp.me/2017-012 (twtr.io/1MJRgSdYmDL)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: everyone should have a website - this is up and running for you- you're now http://granisoncrawford.com (twtr.io/1MJRmZJ8X0G)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: That is how you do a birthday in Silicon Valley (twtr.io/1MJRoHAND2w)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: after the last HWC I made an indieweb wiki page about GoDaddy https://indieweb.org/GoDaddy (twtr.io/1MJSqPLNGKC)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: "to radically shift the global economy toward life-fulfilling independent ventures" is the indieweb part of this (twtr.io/1MJStzHiG3C)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: our enemy is people who want to control the web and siphon the web off into silos and keep the profits (twtr.io/1MJSxw06L16)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: we want each individual member of our communities to start their own business about their purpose in life (twtr.io/1MJT0KSBjRd)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: and the web is how we see making that happen - finding your niche within the business ecosystem (twtr.io/1MJT2sYZs4G)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: How can we vote with our dollars for the world that we want, by building to empower ourselves? (twtr.io/1MJT79JCe2Q)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: The vote of your time and money is the one that no-one can take away from you, whoever is in power (twtr.io/1MJT9VTYAJf)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: and GoDaddy is now about getting you online for your life-fulfilling venture (twtr.io/1MJTESq9T2Q)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: the best way to take action is to vote with your dollars for what you want, and not funding the others (twtr.io/1MJTLGmuxRM)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: whatever it is that you want to say, you can put it on your own site and share it out to social media (twtr.io/1MJTQfghu94)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: get your domain, build your message, share it out to social media and bring it back to your own site (twtr.io/1MJTTEk274Z)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @libertymadison: get your own domain, get your own website, and bring it back to your domain, where you control it. (twtr.io/1MJTVCxVKW8)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: let them find you on the other place, be the octopus with your tentacles on social sites, and your mouth on your domain (twtr.io/1MJTZ8taTHN)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: get people to sign up for the email list that you send out from your own domain (twtr.io/1MJTa2vDfQc)
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aaronpk
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: It's so easy to set up a facebook page, and more work to set up a webpage. We need to make it easy to have both (twtr.io/1MJTdUMp9uA)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: I used to work with musicians, and they would make MySpace pages, which may now have gone (twtr.io/1MJTiartqnU)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: If they printed their own domain on the CDs, they are in control of where it is at the moment (twtr.io/1MJTkd7Pvwo)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: You get to decide what is real and what is fake - if it's on a silo, they can wipe you out in one go (twtr.io/1MJTpuVRgL1)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: GoDaddy's default Wordpress theme is on github at https://github.com/godaddy/wp-primer-theme and we want to indiwebify it (twtr.io/1MJTt_4aQWw)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: We need a #hasAaronpkLandedYet hashtag http://indieweb.org/irc/1970-01-17/line/1484193706 (twtr.io/1MJTyB0dEbp)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @sdepolo: if you can authenticate with your own domain, that is ownership - twitter won't always do that (twtr.io/1MJU1P5Frfq)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: one example of how to do verification is using rel="me" links between sites. see http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html (twtr.io/1MJU_MnN9Go)
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@kevinmarks
#indieweb @kevinmarks: the XFN standard from 2003 lets you connect sites together by linking with rel="me" (twtr.io/1MJUdt7oHhQ)
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KevinMarks1
I left the karaoke from last meeting in the announcement, so we need to do karaoke now o_O
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aaronpk
I have landed!
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aaronpk
Im gonna go straight to my hotel tho.
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acegiak
howdy folks!
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acegiak
pfefferle, is there a way I can make your fork of semantic linkbacks the primary repo?
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acegiak
cause so much work has been done there
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GWG
acegiak, long time no see
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acegiak
or should I just merge those changes back into my main repo?
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acegiak
GWG! Hi! yeah! I'm a busy lady these days :/
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acegiak
I got weechat back up and running and working with both slack and matrix so that I could be present on irc/slack/matrix more but the glowingbear interface is GOOD, just not AS good as slack or riot
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KevinMarks1
!tell tantek are we doing HWC at moz next fortnight?
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG
acegiak, still nice to see you around.
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acegiak
I love this community and it's always nice coming back
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KevinMarks1
great to see you in chat again acegiak
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GWG
acegiak, you have to contact Github support to decouple a repo.
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acegiak
GWG, bluh. I'll just try to be more diligent keeping my copy up to speed
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acegiak
thanks, KevinMarks1 ! Getting matrix working has inspired me to update my site setup a bit.
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GWG
acegiak, some of the changes are things that I have been wanting for a while.
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acegiak
does pfefferle's version still support salmentions? did we work out how to make salmentions code less janky? I haven't had a full look through yet
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GWG
acegiak, did it ever?
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acegiak
the version of semantic linkbacks I'm running supports salmentions
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GWG
acegiak, you did that.
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GWG
The code never went upstream.
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acegiak
I checked those changes into my repo I'm pretty sure. They were just janky
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acegiak
cause it had to sit in a weird place in the processing order
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acegiak
yeah I see it never got merged
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GWG
acegiak, part of the reason was me, alas
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acegiak
I'll have to look into reqriting it for the updated codebase
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GWG
I have been pushing for a major change to the plugin to move postprocessing to preprocessing
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acegiak
that and recieving person tags
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GWG
Both it and Webmentions have undergone major changes that haven't been pushed to the dotorg repo
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acegiak
yeah, dotorg should be for stable
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acegiak
oh I see your changes haven't been merged either.
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GWG
acegiak, which ones?
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GWG
A lot of them have.
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acegiak
your fork doesn't display as merged in the tree graph is all
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GWG
acegiak, pfefferle often merges to a fork, edits, then merges to master
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GWG
I am still indent challenged.
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GWG
But already merged includes a lot of work to make Webmentions standards compliant, as it was written before the standard
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acegiak
kk, just working out which branch I should be working off
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GWG
Master I would say
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acegiak
makes sense
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GWG
acegiak, in Semantic Linkbacks, the major change is preprocessing.
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GWG
And the main plugin file is more of a loader over doing much itself.
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acegiak
cool. I'll have to go through the workflow myself to understand where salmentions fit in
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GWG
acegiak, there is a class for Linkbacks handling that does the display and classification and an mf2 handler that handles the parsing.
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tantek
https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/REC-webmention-20170112/
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Loqi
tantek: KevinMarks1 left you a message 3 hours, 9 minutes ago: are we doing HWC at moz next fortnight?
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Loqi
[Aaron Parecki] Webmention
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tantek
yes
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