#indiewebcamp

2017-01-18

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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb!
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sebsel
Morning ^^
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Loqi
sebsel: KevinMarks left you a message 9 hours, 36 minutes ago: unmung.com does atom/rss to h-feed
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sebsel
KevinMarks that's nice! it feels wrong to add a Twitter to Atom to a Atom to h-feed, and then parse the HTML for Microformats and store it in jf2 :/
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sebsel
but I will keep in mind, thanks!
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[jeremycherfas]
keithjgrant Have you looked at Newsblur reader? The ability to train feeds works well for me. Or do you mean specifically feeds from Twitter, FB etc?
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Zegnat
jeremycherfas, when I tried Newsblur back when Google Reader was shut down I didn't think the training worked well. See https://getsatisfaction.com/newsblur/topics/this_post_is_marked_green_but_i_only_see_red and https://getsatisfaction.com/newsblur/topics/intelligence_trainer_not_very_intelligent . Has it gotten better at that, or is it still that
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Zegnat
any 1 postivie (green) match outweighs any amount of negative (red) matches on a post?
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@jonas_jeub
#indieweb @jonas_jeub: Sun is shining (twtr.io/1MXzohSwWS8)
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[jeremycherfas]
I’ll check next time I look at my feeds, but that wasn’t something I had come across.
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petermolnar
is there a way in the micropub endpoint to push all existing tags to the client to choose from?
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[keithjgrant]
jeremycherfas I mainly had Twitter and/or microposts in mind. But I'm still learning how that works... What sort of thing do folks use to follow microposts, and is it different than a reader for long articles?
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sebsel
hm maybe I should make separate streams for different post-types in my reader
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sebsel
in theory, one can subscribe to https://seblog.nl/likes and that would show up very strange in a reader made for long articles
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sebsel
so yeah, a good /reader probably makes distinctions :)
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Zegnat
I don't know of anyone using multiple different readers though (e.g. a reader just for notes)
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sebsel
that seems inconvenient to me, but silo's are already working a bit like that
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sebsel
Insta for photo's, Twitter for short, etc
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sebsel
what is Micropub extensions?
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Loqi
https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions
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sebsel
petermolnar ^^^ that's where the tag thingy should go, as a Query, I think
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sebsel
I believe the page has a brainstorm status so we can add it?
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sebsel
oh wow
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sebsel
what is category?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "category" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10YY
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sebsel
what is tag?
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Loqi
tags or tagging refers to categorizing or labeling content, your own or others (tag-reply), with words, phrases, names, or other information, optionally linked to specific people, events, locations, such as the practice of tagging posts being about certain people (person-tag), like tagging people or other items where (area-tag) they're depicted in a photo https://indieweb.org/tag
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sebsel
category is [[tag]]
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Loqi
ok
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[jeremycherfas]
keithjgrant You can subscribe to individual Twitter users in Newsblur, though that is hardly efficient. I’m not sure what other people use. I think manton’s micro.blog may allow you to follow your own Twitter stream.
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sebsel
[jeremycherfas] oh, reading Twitter on micro.blog, do you have a source on that?
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sebsel
I believe it's mostly syndicating post to twitter... not actually reading others.
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sebsel
I can't find that
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[keithjgrant]
It would make sense to me for a reader to present two different views (say, two tabs), one for long-form content, another for short. Then it could simply be a UI concern
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sebsel
there is 'Browse posts from friends, powered by RSS and indie microblogs.' on the about-page, so it's probably possible to link it in a way
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sebsel
[keithjgrant] UI is important! Especially for a reader, which is a lot of UI
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[keithjgrant]
It sure is -- I’m a CSS guy :)
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sknebel
in inoreader I can at least have different presentation styles for different feeds
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sknebel
normal (article-heavy) rss feeds I have set to the traditional "headline-only" mode, expanding only on selection. microblogs I have in a style that expands the article immediatly
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sknebel
(still wasting quite a bit of space, since they are generous with whitespace and controls around the posts, but I can just scroll through)
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sebsel
that sounds nice
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sebsel
what is inoreader?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "inoreader" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indieweb.org/s/10YZ
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sebsel
what is feedly?
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Loqi
feedly is a server-based feed aggregator and reader https://indieweb.org/feedly
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sebsel
sknebel does that dfn also work for inoreader?
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sknebel
Inoreader is https://www.inoreader.com/, a [[feed reader]] service.
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Loqi
ok
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sebsel
yaay!