2019/Berlin/dweb

 Distributed Web vs IndieWeb  was a session at IndieWebCamp Berlin 2019.

Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/dweb

IndieWebCamp Berlin 2019 Session: Distributed Web vs IndieWeb When: 2019-05-04 13:40

Dat protocol

 * Beaker Browser Beaker
 * Hash Base
 * Share a file secretly with Dat with Beaker Browser website
 * dat://pastedat-taravancil.hashbase.io/
 * dat://fritter.hashbase.io Fritter - A peer-to-peer social feed app. (proof of concept)
 * Fritter GitHub Repoi

SSB Secure Scuttlebutt

 * Scuttlebut
 * https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/applications (Patchwork and more...!)]
 * https://www.manyver.se/ Manyvers For Android]
 * identity is tied to a key with stuff
 * An example of starting with web
 * Hashbase

There is interactivity
 * Dat Shopping List
 * https://dat-shopping-list.glitch.me/doc/f3013357b313788c12635b124d4227cd9446cde5e2ff240fb674bb4756023b66
 * https://github.com/jimpick/dat-shopping-list/tree/master/stores

You can also do chat, entirely serverless! https://cabal-club.github.io/

IPFS

 * ipfs

IndieWeb Reader

 * reader
 * Indigenous
 * supports Microsub.


 * We can publish okay, but we still end up relying on twitter for reading content, because RSS was effectively killed off
 * Indieweb is essentially based on governance at the DNS level then?

Difference Between DAT and DNS Approaches

 * One of the motivations behind the distributed web is security: having your identity tied to a key instead of the DNS system or an account on someone else's server.
 * Some of the people building these alternative tools to the internet, seem to assume it won't be there in 20 years. However, notice that a lot of people are in it, in very remote regions.
 * The indie web is built on top of existing technology. dat:// websites need a specific app to access, and other distributed solutions have the same condition.

Tor is an even lower level transport, like ssb for sample - you can run an indie web site without a domain name.

So like the web, things like Dat were designed for academic sharing, so governance - does the same thing of a

->  webby, and tied to DNS

Cabal