2012/Rise of the Indie Web

Notes from the "Rise of the Indie Web" session at Open Source Bridge 2012

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Details: 2012-06-26 15:45-16:30 Room B202/203, Eliot Center, Portland, OR
 * 1) osb12 #indieweb

URLs:
 * https://etherpad.mozilla.org/osb12-indieweb
 * http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/916
 * http://plancast.com/p/bu98/osbridge-rise-indie-web
 * http://opensourcebridge.org/wiki/2012/Rise_of_the_Indie_Web
 * http://indiewebcamp.com
 * http://twitter.com/indiewebcamp

Participants:
 * Tantek Çelik (speaker/moderator) - http://tantek.com (@t)
 * Aaron Parecki (panelist) - http://aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk)
 * Erin Jo Richey (panelist) - http://erinjorichey.com (@erinjo)
 * Evan Prodromou (panelist) - http://evan.prodromou.name (@evanpro)
 * ... add your name & URL here

Notes:

Solutions:
 * collection of free web software: http://libreprojects.net
 * Falcon - partially open source - http://tantek.com/w/Falcon
 * and Whistle URL shortener -
 * Statusnet
 * MediaWiki with add-ons/customizations, but writing new CMS with a git-based store.
 * Dropbox editing for MediaWiki: https://github.com/aaronpk/Local-MediaWiki-Sync
 * pkwiki: new git-backed wiki: https://github.com/aaronpk/pkwiki
 * Storytlr http://storytlr.org/
 * WordPress http://wordpress.org/
 * MediaGoblin http://mediagoblin.org/
 * For a push mechanism: Privly https://priv.ly
 * ownCloud, self-hosted web services http://ownCloud.org
 * Unhosted / remoteStorage: http://unhosted.org

Questions
 * How do we get big companies to adopt open protocols?
 * What challenges have each of you encountered?
 * How do we avoid the problem of new solutions just being too complex for individuals and end up just using a hosted service again anyway?
 * We are building first and foremost for ourselves, in terms of ease of use and ability to maintain
 * How can I keep my stuff over time?
 * one risk: on someone else's hardware - they go away, my stuff goes away
 * other risks: data loss due to no backup, changes to formats, 3.5" floppy, JPEG?, Unicode? keeping stuff is hard.
 * The LockerProject - github - no significant commits for the past 7 months - what happened?
 * Singly had a hard time figuring out how to monetize it.
 * Singly is moving more toward a complete API to connect social services.