2016/Brighton/indiebookmarks

 Bookmark Workflow  was a session at IndieWebCamp Brighton 2016.

Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/indiebookmarks

Participants

 * aaronpk
 * adactio
 * sgreger
 * hotzeplotz
 * ... add yourself!

adactio

 * i bookmark for my future self. "oh, I read something about that" and can look it up later
 * had used third parties like magnolia, delicious
 * current workflow: generally on laptop, has a bookmarklet to create the bookmark
 * components of a bookmark: name, url, tags, block quote, own text/commentary
 * display: has a whitelist of providers to auto-embed things like flickr galleries
 * all bookmarks are public (because everything is public)
 * syndicates to @adactiolinks on twitter

Question:
 * do links in feed etc go to bookmark target or post about the link (when commentary added). Adactio got feedback that users don't want to click twice


 * sends webmentions for bookmarks
 * wants to ping web archive to tell them to save a copy

sebastian greger

 * wants to share with his readers *why* he's bookmarking something
 * posts via a bookmarklet
 * has some on twitter https://twitter.com/sebastiangreger with both styles
 * syndicated tweet bookmarks include title, author's @-name, commentary, link to original article or link to both (still undecided what is the right format)
 * all bookmark posts are private, only some of them are made public and that is when he adds commentary

aaronpk

 * posts with screenshot (wkhtmltopdf)
 * often posts with pull quotes
 * tags on bookmark posts link to a composite feed of all posts on my site tagged X https://aaronparecki.com/tag/indieweb
 * also provide a URL like https://aaronparecki.com/bookmarks?tag=indieweb

cweiske

 * hosts a semanticscuttle instance on home server, not accessible for the public, http://semanticscuttle.sourceforge.net/
 * posting of bookmarks done via xmpp chat (url + hashtags), http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/php-xmpp-bot.htm
 * shows screenshots for urls via phancap http://cweiske.de/phancap.htm
 * you can try phancap live at http://phancap.cweiske.de/phancap.phar/

bookmark vs read-it-later

 * mixed use: some bookmark to read later, others only what they read, others don't care
 * common use of tags to indicate whether something is for reading later or read

storing sites vs bookmarking

 * external archiving: http://indieweb.org/archival_copy
 * idea: could ping archive.org when bookmarking, so a copy is created (remember donation to archive.org)
 * www.wallabag.org looks interesting - self hosted open source pocket/instapaper type thing

bookmark vs. like vs. reply

 * bookmarks are not necessarily replies, as they are not directed to the original author but to the readers of the person bookmarking
 * bookmarks are not always "likes", because one may also publish bookmarks to sites one does not agree with
 * see indieweb.org/bookmark -> specific markup and microformats for bookmark posts

alpower

 * I don't bookmark indieweb fashion (yet) but use https://pinboard.in/u:alpower as it allows me
 * to auto bookmark links in tweets, and retrieve them using tags on the pinboard url.