#indieweb 2017-01-16

2017-01-16 UTC
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sensiblemn I just posted a new Issue in the Known github: https://github.com/idno/Known/issues/1631
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sensiblemn It is advocating for Flat File Storage in Known
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@sdepolo @andymci Why that sounds like an #indieWeb rant if I've ever heard one. Good point! (twitter.com/_/status/820831801039912961)
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GWG !tell miklb Connected the Bridgy Publish plugin to the Micropub Plugin. Want to give it a try?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek good evening #indieweb
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GWG Goal for weekend achieved, Quill to Twitter via Micropub, WordPress, and Bridgy. Now, bed.
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tantek GWG++ great work!
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bear GWG++ nicely done!
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@tobiasziegler @ABillionSuns @ben_hr @DavidParis yeah, I do appreciate the indieweb spirit of that project at the very least (twitter.com/_/status/820908279538688002)
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@htmlvv @KrysaliaH Ça demande encore de la technique (…) mais la philosophie ici est cool : https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/820942063571259393)
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sebsel Still not sure it's a good idea, but I'm joining aaronpk :D https://5eb.nl/4mN4
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sebsel Apparently you'll get magical extra hours when you do that :)
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sebsel Hm, Loqi/XRay doesn't like my SSL on shortlinks, so: http://5eb.nl/4mN4
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Day 1: fixing reposts
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sebsel promised himself to let go of the Indieweb things for today now
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@CaptainKurtis @SarahJamieLewis if u search http://indieweb.org for Tor / hidden / onion u'll see some work on this. I had @withknown running on onion. (twitter.com/_/status/820972855185862656)
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miklb morning
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Loqi miklb: GWG left you a message 8 hours, 12 minutes ago: Connected the Bridgy Publish plugin to the Micropub Plugin. Want to give it a try?
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Loqi good morning
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miklb GWG yes, should I just pull down the latest version from GitHub?
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miklb !tell GWG not seeing any options on the options page, just a save changes button
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb !tell GWG Bridgy_Class needs admin_init it seems
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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miklb !tell GWG I have a lot more feedback, where is best? Issue in GitHub?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@barryf Really happy to see that #webmention is now a W3C recommendation. ? @aaronpk and all @indiewebcamp implementers. https://twitter.com/w3c/status/819624363645353985 (twitter.com/_/status/821016011939913729)
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GWG miklb, forgot to push the main file to the repo, so it isn't loading the setup screen. Will try in a bit from my phone
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Loqi GWG: miklb left you a message 2 hours, 11 minutes ago: not seeing any options on the options page, just a save changes button
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Loqi GWG: miklb left you a message 2 hours, 4 minutes ago: Bridgy_Class needs admin_init it seems
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Loqi GWG: miklb left you a message 1 hour, 51 minutes ago: I have a lot more feedback, where is best? Issue in GitHub?
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miklb GWG oh, when I added admin_init, the settings screen worked.
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[jeremycherfas] I have quite a few domains for various projects of mine. Currently only one of them is where I experiment with indieweb things. Another is what I would call my “personal” domain. I’m wondering, is there a “best” way to arrange things? For example, should my personal site be my main "this is me” site and if so, how do I indicate that the others are also me, sort of? Grateful for pointers to things that might help me think this thr
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aaronpk are the other domains definitely more like projects rather than alternate identities?
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tantek jeremycherfas, if you have any social media / silo accounts, put your "personal" domain as the "website" on those accounts
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tantek and then, if any of your other domains also represent you, other facets etc., link to them from your main personal site with rel=me
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tantek however no rel=me on any links to any domains that are personal projects,
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gRegorLove Good morning, indieweb
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks aaronpk and tantek. Maybe the best thing I could do would be to expand on what the various domains are for and then link to that from here. That will probably be easier. It will also help me to sharpen my questions.
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tantek definitely. making use of your domains first will help you figure out how you want them to fit together
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tantek and welcome!
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Loqi [indieweb] "#gohugo - fast static website engine" by Grant Potter on 2017-01-16 http://gohugo.io/
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[jeremycherfas] Will do.
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tantek sebsel++ for https://seblog.nl/2017/01/16/4/day-1-fixing-reposts
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] Day 1: fixing reposts
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tantek and the 100daysofindieweb attempt in general!
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tantek !tell sebsel add yourself to https://indieweb.org/100DaysOfIndieWeb#IndieWeb_Community !
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@christophdmaier Erster Vortrag beim Webmontag dreht sich um #indieweb. Spannend, war mir vorher noch nicht bekannt. #webmh (twitter.com/_/status/821064981856784387)
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sebsel :)
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Loqi sebsel: tantek left you a message 54 minutes ago: add yourself to https://indieweb.org/100DaysOfIndieWeb#IndieWeb_Community !
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sebsel Will do!
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sebsel (just noticed that I can login with only 'seblog.nl' too! no https://, that saves!)
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aaronpk yeah that was some tricky code :)
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gRegorLove contemplates doing 2 Days of IndieWeb :)
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gRegorLove Baby steps
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aaronpk lol
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gRegorLove Actually, it makes me want to try the 100 Words in 100 Days again.
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gRegorLove Writing has been more of an itch lately than coding.
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GWG Afternoon
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GWG !tell miklb Uploaded missing change from my phone
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove Alright, put my self-challenge in writing. Starting February 1 if anyone wants to join in: https://gregorlove.com/2017/01/i-think-im-going-to/
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] I think I’m going to try the 100 Words in 100 Days challenge again. I only finished 13 non-contiguous days last time. I also didn’t fill in the missed days. This time I want to be more rigorous about it. I’m planning to start on February 1. I...
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aaronpk w00t
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Loqi :D
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tantek gRegorLove++
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tantek gRegorLove: on https://gregorlove.com/2015/06/100-words-001/ are there supposed to be empty text inputs after the "After:" and "Before:" labels at the bottom?
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Loqi [gRegor Morrill] 100 Words 001
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gRegorLove They would appear as text fields in Firefox, yeah. They're type-date fields. Haven't added a polyfill for them yet.
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tantek also - is there a agreed upon (hash)tag for that?
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gRegorLove adactio tagged his posts "100words" so #100words probably works
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tantek gRegorLove: I was confused because I was expecting before/after to be buttons to nav to previous/next posts
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gRegorLove Yeah, the search UI isn't ideal. It was my /2016 addition
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gRegorLove next / prev post links are further up, right under the published date and my name
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Zegnat sebsel is actually also doing 500 words / 100 days, next to the indieweb stuff.
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sebsel ssh, not so loud :p
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sebsel I do, but they are Dutch words. Still wondering wether 500 is too much, but I think I can do it.
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tantek sebsel, when did you start?
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sebsel Also today!
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tantek alrighty then
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tantek what's your first post about it?
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sebsel eh, lemme grab
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sebsel about: https://seblog.nl/2017/01/16/2/100-dagen and todays writing: https://seblog.nl/2017/01/16/3/als-ik-in-bed-lig
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Loqi [Sebastiaan Andeweg] 100 dagen
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sebsel Both Dutch.
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sebsel And not really proud of it yet, but hey, it's the writing that counts. My 100daysofindieweb for tomorrow might very well be a new way of presenting all this stuff on my homepage :)
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gRegorLove Whoa, /100DaysOfIndieWeb has expanded a lot since I last looked at it
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gRegorLove sebsel++
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tantek gRegorLove: yeah, I keep documenting ideas, not having the confidence to start a 100 days project (yet)
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tantek I've been trying to do practice 100 days of positive photos since the 1st, but I think I already missed a day or two so I'm trying to figure out a good rhythm for it
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aaronpk 100 days is a lot! my end date is March 30th and that seems so far away
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sebsel aaronpk yeah but also: it seems like yesterday that you started, and you're over 25% now!
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sebsel (to me at least :p)
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aaronpk true!
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@keithjgrant Man, how has all this indieweb stuff been around for several years now without me realizing it? I’m so getting on board. (twitter.com/_/status/821103077327589377)
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@kevinmarks @keithjgrant excellent! Tell your friends too. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/821103697392349184)
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@100daysindieweb Day 27: Parsing meta http-equiv and returning status code in XRay #100DaysOfIndieWeb: https://aaronparecki.com/2017/01/16/7/day27-xray (twitter.com/_/status/821104596823076867)
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@kevinmarks @keithjgrant come join the chat channels - web, irc or slack options https://indieweb.org/discuss (twitter.com/_/status/821105059287035905)
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sebsel oh, I just saw that one when filing an issue for dt-updated in XRay :D
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sebsel aaronpk++
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aaronpk :)
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aaronpk are you using dt-updated?
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sebsel I am, and tantek is I believe
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aaronpk nice, what do you do with it on the consuming side?
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sebsel I just fixed some typo's and grammarthings in my English post--
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sebsel Okay that's a point.
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sebsel Well, I thought I should resend mentions with an updated dt-published.
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sebsel But I don't actually do that, I just update the date for now.
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sebsel So no, no use case yet.
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sebsel Sorry, will try and internalise this question :)
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aaronpk ah k. well publishing it is a start :)
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@keithjgrant @AdamRackis I’m redesigning my website now. Plan to integrate portions of this. Check out https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/821105758859395072)
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aaronpk i suspect there is a need for it with readers, but readers are still a relatively unexplored area here.
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sebsel yeah, I'm building one myself, because I noticed it was an unexplored area
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sebsel https://lees.seblog.nl, but it only works for my own domain.
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sebsel Documenting that one can be a 100days I guess.
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aaronpk Oh nice
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tantek I like the mobile web display of Woodwind quite a bit
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tantek it's such a calm way to read people I'm following!
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sebsel https://seblog.nl/temp/media-endpoint/eff735-img_7982.png < My mobile thing for now
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sebsel but it 500s on my all the time.
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sebsel Need to change some things
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aaronpk Interesting, it keeps track of which things you've seen?
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sebsel yeah new things come in at 'New', where I can view them 10 at a time
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aaronpk Is that "mark as read" button just for the indented things or for the whole page?
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sebsel they have a checkbox, when I tick that they don't get marked at read, but as 'want-to-read'.
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sebsel the whole page, and the check 'saves' them.
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sebsel also: it displays oldest posts first, so I don't miss a thing.
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sebsel But now I got 500+ unread tweets.
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sebsel So I need a filter :P
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sebsel I follow Twitter via Granary and then a lot of hfeeds. I want RSS/Atom support too though.
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sebsel okay that's it for me. I need to get back in my own time zone :D
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sebsel have a nice day!
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[keithjgrant] Hey all... Looks like something already syndicated some of my tweets here :)
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aaronpk hi [keithjgrant]! yep when you mention "indieweb" on twitter it'll show up here!
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@cleverdevil @keithjgrant I currently use @withknown. You can also use @wordpress with the indieweb plugin. Lots of good choices. (twitter.com/_/status/821111248318132225)
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@cleverdevil @keithjgrant if you haven’t already, check out https://indieweb.org for tips. (twitter.com/_/status/821111925572415488)
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[keithjgrant] I discovered the W3C social web specs, and have wondered why I haven't seen them before now. Been wanting an open studio protocol for years
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[keithjgrant] *social
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tantek welcome keithjgrant! do you have your own website?
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[keithjgrant] keithjgrant.com
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[keithjgrant] Statically generated. Just starting on a redesign, figure that's a good time to start adding social features :)
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tantek you're in good company. plenty of static sites folks here!
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@calum_ryan Plenty of #indieweb activity here in the UK! Homebrew Website Clubs in #Birmingham #Brighton #London https://twitter.com/homebrewbrum/status/821051989425606660 (twitter.com/_/status/821131930989133824)
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KevinMarks Mine is static too, but handles webmention receiving via voxpelli's handy service
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[keithjgrant] Are things easier to implement if I use WordPress or similar?
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[keithjgrant] Also, what things should I be thinking about beyond webmentions? I like the W3C approach to things like subscriptions & tracking followers, but it looks like that stuff is less commonly implemented at this point (?)
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tantek keithjgrant re: easier to implement, there are tradeoffs between different things
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tantek keithjgrant - beyond webmentions, you should consider user-centric features. Webmentions are only interesting in that they help you implement peer-to-peer commenting, liking, reposting from and to your own site
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tantek (and RSVPing to indie events as well)
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tantek there's a collection of various indieweb features in rough order of difficulty (and apparent adoption) here: https://indieweb.org/IndieMark
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@t coded, tested, selfdogfooded full #indieweb RSVP sending in @Falcon! https://indieweb.org/rsvp #microformats2 h-entry (ttk.me t4mN3) (twitter.com/_/status/821141824471494656)
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Loqi [indieweb] "coded, tested, selfdogfooded full #indieweb RSVP sending in @Falcon! https://indieweb.org/rsvp #microformats2 h-entry" on 2017-01-16 http://tantek.com/2017/016/t3/full-indieweb-rsvp-sending-falcon