sknebel(case in point, the file names reveal that we at first thought these 2 birds in the post were two different subspecies, which lead to a few long e-mails back and forth with an expert and reading a few papers to conclude that no, they probably just are differently colored ones of the same species
[kevinmarks]Species taxonomy is another example of trying to impose a hierarchy on something that is more complicated than that. It is also under pressure from dna sequencing that challenges the underlying structure.
sknebelyes, its still changing, and often the modern taxonomy isn't all that useful because it doesn't match the grouping observers use. so I'm not convinced there is much value in marking it up etc outside of dedicated databases that are properly maintained. just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anthing interesting
Zegnat!tell tantek re: diversity at conferences, craft-conf has special “diversity tickets”, which I personally find weird but are rooted on an interesting idea. https://craft-conf.com/2016 (down the page)
Loqitantek: Zegnat left you a message 3 hours, 9 minutes ago: re: diversity at conferences, craft-conf has special “diversity tickets”, which I personally find weird but are rooted on an interesting idea. https://craft-conf.com/2016 (down the page)
LoqiNextcloud is an open source software project for self-hosted personal web services including a file manager (an indie version of Dropbox), music, calendar (CalDAV), contacts (CardDAV), and more https://indieweb.org/Nextcloud
ZegnatI think their argument comes mostly down to the fact they are application developers and JSON is part of their programming language, while XML and HTML require extra libraries to start parsing them. That’s how I read that, anyway.
tantekburdening millions of publishers instead of a handful of consuming code implementations seems like the wrong trade-off and yet expected result of when consuming code implementations make a collective decision amongst themselves.
LoqiThe RSS Atom wars (AKA "syndication wars") were a toxic plumbing debate about the merits of using Atom vs RSS that dragged-in and distracted numerous high level web technologists from 2003-2007 while social silos (Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, etc.) emerged, rapidly innovated UX, and thus gained popular adoption https://indieweb.org/RSS_Atom_wars
sknebelI'm curious to see who adopts it. It would be a good thing if it lead to more feeds being available, but I wouldn't be surprised if its going to be primarily on sites that already have good feeds. And the long-tail of sites with RSS/Atom in various stages of brokenness that's probably the main challenge for /readers isn't going to change presumably?
sknebelKartikPrabhu: that's part of the problem, but not the only one. e.g. I follow feeds that don't properly link their posts in the feed, mess their timestamps up, I bet in the ducts below there are tons of issues with caching, ... all of which you could break in an embedded feed just as much
sknebelpartially. I mean, here we see people mess up on what to put the h-entry or various properties, that's also only visible if it breaks bridgy or you look at it through a parser. But it certainly helps!
Loqi[snarfed] another problem: micropub renders at write time, into post_content, but sempress and post kinds (i think) render to HTML at page load time.
so, when a post is created, if post kinds doesn't support a property but micropub does, micropub will generat...