2012/Rise of the Indie Web

Notes from the "Rise of the Indie Web" session at Open Source Bridge 2012

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1. osb12 #indieweb

2012-06-26 15:45-16:30 Room B202/203, Eliot Center, Portland, OR

URLs:

• https://etherpad.mozilla.org/osb12-indieweb
• http://opensourcebridge.org/sessions/916
• http://plancast.com/p/bu98/osbridge-rise-indie-web
• http://opensourcebridge.org/wiki/2012/Rise_of_the_Indie_Web
• http://indiewebcamp.com
• http://twitter.com/indiewebcamp

Participants:

• Tantek Çelik (speaker/moderator) - http://tantek.com (@t)
• Aaron Parecki (panelist) - http://aaronparecki.com (@aaronpk)
• Erin Jo Richey (panelist) - http://erinjorichey.com (@erinjo)
• Evan Prodromou (panelist) - http://evan.prodromou.name (@evanpro)
• ... add your name & URL here

Notes:

Solutions:

• collection of free web software: http://libreprojects.net
• Falcon - partially open source - http://tantek.com/w/Falcon
  • and Whistle URL shortener -
• Statusnet
• MediaWiki with add-ons/customizations, but writing new CMS with a git-based store.
  • Dropbox editing for MediaWiki: https://github.com/aaronpk/Local-MediaWiki-Sync
  • pkwiki: new git-backed wiki: https://github.com/aaronpk/pkwiki
• Storytlr http://storytlr.org/
• WordPress http://wordpress.org/
• MediaGoblin http://mediagoblin.org/
• For a push mechanism: Privly https://priv.ly
• ownCloud, self-hosted web services http://ownCloud.org
• Unhosted / remoteStorage: http://unhosted.org

Questions

• How do we get big companies to adopt open protocols?
• What challenges have each of you encountered?
• How do we avoid the problem of new solutions just being too complex for individuals and end up just using a hosted service again anyway?
  • We are building first and foremost for ourselves, in terms of ease of use and ability to maintain
• How can I keep my stuff over time?
  • one risk: on someone else's hardware - they go away, my stuff goes away
  • other risks: data loss due to no backup, changes to formats, 3.5" floppy, JPEG?, Unicode? keeping stuff is hard.
• The LockerProject - github - no significant commits for the past 7 months - what happened?
  • Singly had a hard time figuring out how to monetize it.
  • Singly is moving more toward a complete API to connect social services.