2014/Berlin/Day-1
IndieWebCamp 2014 Berlin
Saturday, June 28, 2014
Introductions
- BN: Hi, I am Brennan Novak you can find me at https://brennannovak.com and https://twitter.com/brennannovak :)
- JB: Hey, Iβm Jan-Christoph Borchardt and use http://jancborchardt.net, https://twitter.com/jancborchardt & https://github.com/jancborchardt
- EV: Hi, I'm Ed Verillo (IRC: Rev_Illo) - Freelance web developer / designer - http://twitter.com/edverillo
- AS: I'm Anna Saulwick - I'm a campaigner and writer, currently working on an EU democracy project. https://twitter.com/AnnaSaulwick
- DR: Diego RamiΓrez - Web developer - part of Somos MΓ‘s http://lowfill.org https://twitter.com/lowfill - https://www.somosmas.org
- CH: Christian Hildebrand - CFO at Agora, CoFounder Jolocom, Investor - History: Project Manager, Media Producer - Contact: christian@hildebrand.me
- LK: Liam Kavanagh a Cognitive Scientist visiting Berlin on a DAAD grant.
- NB: Nicolas Bermond - Entrepreneur - Paris @nicolas2fr
- JL: Joachim Lohkamp - Founder at Jolocom - Tech-Events at Agora - IoTPeople - Gatesense - OuishareLabs https://twitter.com/JockelLohkamp - www.jolocom.com
- JR : Jon Richter : http://almereyda.de
- GA: Garret Alfert: (IRC: galfert) - Developer, Co-founder https://5apps.com (http://garretalfert.com, https://twitter.com/galfert, https://github.com/galfert )
- ET: Ed Tewiah @africajam - web developer
Overview & history of the Indie Web movement β Why an Indie Web?
- Why We Need the #IndieWeb by Tantek Celik
approach, dogfooding
- Proof of work
- Eat your own Dogfood
- https://brennannovak.com is powered by http://social-igniter.com for IndieAuth, POSSE, PESOS and WebMention
- http://jancborchardt.net uses IndieAuth, and ownCloud on a different domain
- IRC, for discussions
- #indiewebcamp on freenode
- Etherpad (like this for collaborative documentation)
Current apps & projects
- Microformats
- Indie Auth
- POSSE
- Post Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere
- http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
- PESOS
- Post Elsewhere Syndicate Own Site
- http://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS
- Webmentions
- A simple protocol based on Microformats and modeled after pingbacks for sending valid indie data between sites
- http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention
- Brigdy
- Automatic PESOS for large silos like Twitter & Facebook using the "Webmention" protocol
- https://www.brid.gy
- WebMention.io
- Makes an easy to implement endpoint to receive Webmentions
- http://webmention.io
- https://brennannovak.com/essays/dear-facebook-goodbye
- IndieWebifyMe
- A tool for developers to easily debug their sites IndieWeb Compatibility
- http://indiewebify.me
What you currently use / pain points
- Brennan: Social Igniter posting to Twitter, App.net,
Facebook,IRC, email - Jan: mostly Email, Github, IRC, ownCloud. Some Textsecure/SMS, Twitter, Meetup.com
- Malte: mainly Email, IRC, Diaspora
- Joe: Medium
- Garret: mostly Github, IRC. Facebook with friends, some Foursquare
- Diego: mostly Facebook and Twitter, email, Github
- Joachim: problem that most networks are very quantitative than qualitative. Working on Jolocom
- Christian: removed entries from every social network 2 years ago. Problem: getting judged by others on posts and superficial aspects. Their inability to present diversity in a character. Inability to - at least easily - push only relevant info to the relevant people (groups are not sufficient) Also working on Jolocom
- Jon : all of them. federation and transclusion missing everywhere
Of the current "silos" what do you use?
- Facebook DR, BN, GA, JL, JR
- Twitter DR, JC, BN, GA, JL, JR
- Github: JC, BN, GA, DR, JR
- Tumblr
What you would want (ideally)
What is your ideal publishing platform for a more open, decentralized, free, and IndieWeb in one sentence
- bnvk: a way to collaboratively organize events & calendars using IW protocols
- jancborchardt: a simple unified cross-platform messaging tool
- almereyda: flow charts of POSSE and PESOS and Bridgy and Webmention
- and IndieAuth / omniauth / WebID integration for four-point-five linkedopendata stars : https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/61
- DR: Promote POSSE and give people tools to became owners of their own identity.
- AS: a tool that properly reads my mind
- Joachim: More qualitative networks. Everyone could have their own mini-platform. Try to prevent overflow of information
- Christian: Less noise, not cluttering peopleβs attention. Something which is personally tailored
What can you do?
- Start publishing from it
- Purchase a domain name
- Purchase hosting
- Use your own hardware + something like PageKite (http://pagekite.net)
- alternative : https://github.com/inconshreveable/ngrok
- http://readwrite.com/2014/06/27/raspberry-pi-web-server-website-hosting#awesm=~oItCpp8SXyZb76
- Engage / encourage your community (software) provider Diaspora, Discourse, etc... to implement IW support
- (Jon) From my experiences, it is very hard to convince regular users to use interfaces they don't know yet, are not used to. A handbook, helpful advice or arguments would be highly appreciated.
=== Ideas for platforms & tools**
- Self hosted "box" solutions
- Indie Box http://indieboxproject.org/blog/
- ArkOS https://arkos.io
- Cozy https://www.cozycloud.cc
- ownCloud https://owncloud.org
- Indie App Store** **http://indiewebcamp.com/store
- Better authentication with PGP keys
- Kirby Auth App http://indiewebcamp.com/kirby-login-app
- Indie Auth PGP signin
- Integration with "other" tech tools & apps
- Mailpile - leveraging IndieWeb contacts and exposing email threads for public discourse
- +1 for exposing email threads, which would basically render e-mail the original decentralized network
- Mailpile - leveraging IndieWeb contacts and exposing email threads for public discourse
- "The Poster"
- Posting to multiple platforms while retaining the metadata they belong together.
- "The Reader"
- Postings from different platforms that conform to the same posting action are grouped together.
Funding models
- Crowdfunding
- Mailpile raised $170,000 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mailpile-taking-e-mail-back
- Company supporting the project
- ownCloud has a company providing support and additional business features https://owncloud.com
- support and added company features is a classic open source business model, see Red Hat, Canonical, β¦
- Getting a grant
- NLnet (Unhosted & remoteStorage was funded by them)
- Pagekite got a grant from the Icelandic government https://pagekite.net
- Knight Foundation
- Gittip, Flattr