2014/Berlin/Day-1

IndieWebCamp 2014 Berlin

Saturday, June 28, 2014

Introductions

• BN: Hi, I am Brennan Novak you can find me at https://brennannovak.com and https://twitter.com/brennannovak :)
• JB: Hey, I’m Jan-Christoph Borchardt and use http://jancborchardt.net, https://twitter.com/jancborchardt & https://github.com/jancborchardt
• EV: Hi, I'm Ed Verillo (IRC: Rev_Illo) - Freelance web developer / designer - http://twitter.com/edverillo
• AS: I'm Anna Saulwick - I'm a campaigner and writer, currently working on an EU democracy project. https://twitter.com/AnnaSaulwick
• DR: Diego Ramiírez - Web developer - part of Somos Más http://lowfill.org https://twitter.com/lowfill - https://www.somosmas.org
• CH: Christian Hildebrand - CFO at Agora, CoFounder Jolocom, Investor - History: Project Manager, Media Producer - Contact: christian@hildebrand.me
• LK: Liam Kavanagh a Cognitive Scientist visiting Berlin on a DAAD grant.
• NB: Nicolas Bermond - Entrepreneur - Paris @nicolas2fr
• JL: Joachim Lohkamp - Founder at Jolocom - Tech-Events at Agora - IoTPeople - Gatesense - OuishareLabs https://twitter.com/JockelLohkamp - www.jolocom.com
• JR : Jon Richter : http://almereyda.de
• GA: Garret Alfert: (IRC: galfert) - Developer, Co-founder https://5apps.com (http://garretalfert.com, https://twitter.com/galfert, https://github.com/galfert )
• ET: Ed Tewiah @africajam - web developer

Overview & history of the Indie Web movement – Why an Indie Web?

• Why We Need the #IndieWeb by Tantek Celik
  • Video http://tantek.com/2014/175/t1/pdf14-why-need-indieweb-video-slides
  • Slides http://tantek.com/presentations/2014/06/indieweb/

approach, dogfooding

• Proof of work
  • http://indiewebcamp.com/ownCloud, https://owncloud.org
  • http://indiewebcamp.com/Mailpile, https://mailpile.is
• Eat your own Dogfood
  • https://brennannovak.com is powered by http://social-igniter.com for IndieAuth, POSSE, PESOS and WebMention
  • http://jancborchardt.net uses IndieAuth, and ownCloud on a different domain
• IRC, for discussions
  • #indiewebcamp on freenode
• Etherpad (like this for collaborative documentation)

Current apps & projects

• Microformats
  • http://microformats.org
• Indie Auth
  • http://indieauth.com
• POSSE
  • Post Own Site Syndicate Elsewhere
  • http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
• PESOS
  • Post Elsewhere Syndicate Own Site
  • http://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS
• Webmentions
  • A simple protocol based on Microformats and modeled after pingbacks for sending valid indie data between sites
  • http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention
• Brigdy
  • Automatic PESOS for large silos like Twitter & Facebook using the "Webmention" protocol
  • https://www.brid.gy
• WebMention.io
  • Makes an easy to implement endpoint to receive Webmentions
  • http://webmention.io
  • https://brennannovak.com/essays/dear-facebook-goodbye
• IndieWebifyMe
  • A tool for developers to easily debug their sites IndieWeb Compatibility
  • http://indiewebify.me

What you currently use / pain points

• Brennan: Social Igniter posting to Twitter, App.net, Facebook, IRC, email
• Jan: mostly Email, Github, IRC, ownCloud. Some Textsecure/SMS, Twitter, Meetup.com
• Malte: mainly Email, IRC, Diaspora
• Joe: Medium
• Garret: mostly Github, IRC. Facebook with friends, some Foursquare
• Diego: mostly Facebook and Twitter, email, Github
• Joachim: problem that most networks are very quantitative than qualitative. Working on Jolocom
• Christian: removed entries from every social network 2 years ago. Problem: getting judged by others on posts and superficial aspects. Their inability to present diversity in a character. Inability to - at least easily - push only relevant info to the relevant people (groups are not sufficient) Also working on Jolocom
• Jon : all of them. federation and transclusion missing everywhere

Of the current "silos" what do you use?

• Facebook DR, BN, GA, JL, JR
• Twitter DR, JC, BN, GA, JL, JR
• Github: JC, BN, GA, DR, JR
• Tumblr
• Instagram

What you would want (ideally)

What is your ideal publishing platform for a more open, decentralized, free, and IndieWeb in one sentence

• bnvk: a way to collaboratively organize events & calendars using IW protocols
• jancborchardt: a simple unified cross-platform messaging tool
• almereyda: flow charts of POSSE and PESOS and Bridgy and Webmention
  • and IndieAuth / omniauth / WebID integration for four-point-five linkedopendata stars : https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/61
• DR: Promote POSSE and give people tools to became owners of their own identity.
• AS: a tool that properly reads my mind
• Joachim: More qualitative networks. Everyone could have their own mini-platform. Try to prevent overflow of information
• Christian: Less noise, not cluttering people’s attention. Something which is personally tailored

What can you do?

• Start publishing from it
  • Purchase a domain name
  • Purchase hosting
  • Use your own hardware + something like PageKite (http://pagekite.net)
  • alternative : https://github.com/inconshreveable/ngrok
• http://readwrite.com/2014/06/27/raspberry-pi-web-server-website-hosting#awesm=~oItCpp8SXyZb76
• Engage / encourage your community (software) provider Diaspora, Discourse, etc... to implement IW support
  • (Jon) From my experiences, it is very hard to convince regular users to use interfaces they don't know yet, are not used to. A handbook, helpful advice or arguments would be highly appreciated.

=== Ideas for platforms & tools**

• Self hosted "box" solutions
  • Indie Box http://indieboxproject.org/blog/
  • ArkOS https://arkos.io
  • Cozy https://www.cozycloud.cc
  • ownCloud https://owncloud.org
• Indie App Store** **http://indiewebcamp.com/store
• Better authentication with PGP keys
  • Kirby Auth App http://indiewebcamp.com/kirby-login-app
  • Indie Auth PGP signin
• Integration with "other" tech tools & apps
  • Mailpile - leveraging IndieWeb contacts and exposing email threads for public discourse
    • +1 for exposing email threads, which would basically render e-mail the original decentralized network
• "The Poster"
  • Posting to multiple platforms while retaining the metadata they belong together.
• "The Reader"
  • Postings from different platforms that conform to the same posting action are grouped together.

Funding models

• Crowdfunding
  • Mailpile raised $170,000 https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mailpile-taking-e-mail-back
• Company supporting the project
  • ownCloud has a company providing support and additional business features https://owncloud.com
  • support and added company features is a classic open source business model, see Red Hat, Canonical, …
• Getting a grant
  • NLnet (Unhosted & remoteStorage was funded by them)
  • Pagekite got a grant from the Icelandic government https://pagekite.net
  • Knight Foundation
• Gittip, Flattr