2018/indiewhere
Where we are: geospatial data, privacy, autonomy was a session at IndieWeb Summit 2018.
Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/indiewhere
IndieWeb Summit Portland 2018
Session: Indie Where
When: 2018-06-26 15:05
Participants
- Forrest Hawes-Elorri also forrest.stream (UW gis, USGS, Cascadia Rising)
- gozala
- Eric Drechsel
Jim Pick- dietrich
- Mathew Lippencot
Notes
- Location and sharing, privacy (forrest)
- Fragility of web infra (gozala)
- decentraliztion
- Place is fundamental to being a human.
- Chain of custody/ identity / verification/ geo display
- map.io
- xcites citizen science pigmy tribes
- digital democracy / mapeo (amazon mapping)
- holochain
Notes from Dietrich:
- Forrest Hawes
- forest.stream
- GIS
- Chris Hawes, Qorvo
- Geospatial intelligence
- Location sharing is contextual
- Irakli
- Mozilla
- web infra is fragile
- how to solve bottlenecks
- internet providers play big role
- disaster response
- edrex
- bad sysadmin
- edrex.pdxhub.org
- resilience
- indie web is now, but dweb and fabric are 5yrs out
- jim pick
- gis is fundamental
- mobile changed that but Google controls
- mathew Lippincott
- env modeling
- industrial design
- types of monitoring
- requests for geospatial display
- big issues are privacy, chain of custody
- verification
- nearing announce of balloon system
- mapeo by digital democracy
- excites, university London
- Basque sheepherders
- contribute to geological survey
- over reliance on physical infra
- earthquake prep
- Cascadia rising
- what do we do?
- hyper capitalism is destructive to infrastructure
- cooperatives
- cascadia computing & communications cooperative
- pnw mesh
- tech on West of Cascades
- data centers in East of Cascades
- Bitcoin communes of the Columbia valley
- what happens when the earthquake hits and the military takes control
- diy sdr stacks
- 6-7 county area
- 3200 servers, forklift batteries
- coop to run
- firmware updates across lots of devices
- county-run compute nodes
- Run ipfs on these...
- Initial internet: survive nuclear holocaust
- not surviving corporate attacks
- how to put gis data in public control
- donp
- privacy in location?
- self host location data
- Aaron had a project
- ice condor
- but all centralized
- fishing location for tribes
- chain of custody
- "I'm a professional scientist"
- Scientists and labs just sign stuff makes it true
- but citizen science, noooooo
- software can help by using location and timecode and photo to use for chain of custody
- trust the person taking the photo to some degree
- keys for better trust models?
- What do we replicate?
- In the nw, building a new internet
- don't the nodes decide... with the power plug?
- Basques have experience in this area
- need moderation, has to come from somewhere
- where to host geospatial data?
- running server is good, but not everyone can do
- can browsers help... Even with geoip
- geoip is or isn't useful?
- used to be based on urls, but not as meaningful when no urls and domains?
- dat, other distributed protocols all around this
- what if we had a web that paid by providing services instead of ad model
- but s7 networks (mobile telco nodes) aren't private
- where do we keep our where data?
- multiple layers
- missing good strategies for security and privacy - sending locations out in clear text
- how do you trust computation
- holochain
- blockchain without pow and achieve consensus
- No way to cheat because everyone runs the same code
- like ethereum in that code sandbox
- holo has no single blockchain
- ux?
- Atlas - microformat for location, proposal
- Military uses rdf