LoqiThe social web map is a metaphoric map of social web sites, from fully indieweb to silos, representing their relationships, sizes, levels of IndieMark accomplishment (or site-death) and any other axes of interesting details we can capture https://indieweb.org/map
jeremycherfasGWG: I’ve just converted on of my WP sites to use the senpress theme. Haven’t done anything yet about the indieweb plugins. I see from the chat that there are modifications under way. Do you think it might be a good idea to wait a while before going ahead with that?
jeremycherfasI can’t be specific; just things that flitted by in the discussions. It seemed like there were quite a few changes and cleanups being contemplated. If those changes are liely to have an impact on how I manage things at my end, then I will probably hold off for a while.
sgregeraaronpk: i have been playing around with distributed indieauth (trying to write a little piece that authenticates me to log in to the wiki based on me being logged in to my wordpress site) - i'm running in one issue though
sgregerthat would be great. i just tried a moment ago (after 2h break) and received that error again. debugging is a bit tricky, as it seems to be an issue with the final step (indieauth.com verifying the code from my endpoint, the POST request...)
sgreger"An authorization endpoint must be able to both generate authorization codes as well as verify authorization codes." -> so this means, my little hack is not really a proper endpoint, because it does not allow verifying codes from other sites?
[chrisaldrich]jeremycherfas, I had a child theme of sempress a while back which was probably pretty close. I didn't realize how nice senpress was until I got lost in the rabbit hole of content on fornicalia
jeremycherfasI’ve asked Mathias about this on github, but wondering about the structure. As he has it, zenpress is inside ZenPress, and like that, WP won’t see the parent style. if I take zenpress out of ZenPress, everything is fine. But I no longer have the SASS.
[chrisaldrich]jeremycherfas, usually child themes are more important when building on top of themes from the repository that will update in the future (so you won't overwrite your changes/work). SenPress (the child) is pretty solid and unlikely to change as much as SemPress (the parent), so you probably won't go too wrong in just hacking directly on top of the child theme.
[chrisaldrich]I saw your question to GWG earlier. Like him, I think that a lot of the WordPress Indieweb plugins are pretty mature, so you're unlikely to have any major issues down the road if you start using them now. Most changes will just add small bits of functionality that you might not even notice since they're in the background.
[chrisaldrich]It's not like the situation a year or two ago where there were some major changes which might have kept you on your toes (but which honestly weren't hard to overcome with help on Github or here in chat).
[chrisaldrich]jeremycherfas, I've been thinking more about an indieweb podcast; last night for HWC quiet writing hour I started outlining some potential interviews along with lists of evergreen questions
[chrisaldrich]With things like webmention and micropub as far along as they are, we're getting closer and closer to Generations 2 and 3. A few larger scale projects like Manton's or what I suspect DreamHost wants to do with it in relation to WordPress may help be tipping points to scaling these functionalities to a larger audience.
[chrisaldrich]Facebook, Twitter, and others cornered the market before the necessary standards to overcome the hurdle of "Web 2.0" were created, so it's a bigger uphill battle trying to regain that ground. The nice part is that many people, as evinced in that link, know we could do better. The best part about IndieWeb is that it's actually starting to physically happen here. How do we underline this point on the front page?
voxpelliOne of the great things in IndieWeb is that we can support both experimental dev work and mature products at once – unlike Twitter that closed down their API when they needed to polish their UX
voxpelliSo there can be some IndieWeb endeavors that are at the very polished state and at the same time be some others that are very rough – silos can't do that because they often need to fit it all into one product
[chrisaldrich]That's a great point voxpelli. In fact, when was the last time a social platform made a large transformative change in it's own functionality. It seems like the market is relatively saturated. Take yesterday: Instagram unveils multi-photo which seems like something they should have had years ago, but only seems to expand on their own "stories" functionality and making it more permanent, while underneath it all isn't it just geared toward try
voxpelliYeah, I think some are so set on the silos mindset that they think that as a project matures it has to inherently stop developing itself, and that should certainly not be the case with IndieWeb
[acegiak_net]So I just added a post to my site with a syndication link to a tweet with the same content that I posted BEFORE the post. Will Bridget pick that up and bring me back replies to that original tweet?
GWGtechlifeweb opened a ticket on the Webmentions plugin, which had me doing a deep dive into the fact that custom post types require you to declare trackback support in order to get pingback and webmention support...