2016/Berlin/community
IndieWeb Community was a session at IndieWebCamp Berline 2016.
The topic was continued on the next day in a "hacking session" entitled IndieWeb onboarding
Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/community
Notes
Berlin 2016
sgreger: observations: local crowd is mixed in skill and specialisation
- getting sterted, withknown only "one-stop-shop"
- wordpress had difficulty with microformat markup
question: what parts are in the starter package?
sl007: asked users of other CMSes to get input for his
- UI to apply microformats to existing structure?
- wiki is difficult to get into, requirement for wiki signup for beginners is difficult - this will make it hard for novices to join the indieweb movement. They cannot actively connect through the wiki.
- suggestion of simpler signup flow to get rel-me started quicker, guiding people to edit their profile
WP plugins not good enough for beginners now
Oliver:
- not everyone wants to "publish" - likes and comments feel different
- maybe specialist system for that?
getting domains is difficult for non-tech people
Indieauth as first step doesn't have a clear benefit. setting up indieauth to get Bridgy is worth it, just getting on some strange wiki is less cool
criticism from crpyto side: we don't <..........>
- <Zegnat> Hosting is a running problem, discussed often, e.g. https://indieweb.org/2016/Indiehosting
- <sl007> soverin.net
discussion about coupling domain and webspace
domains are by quite strong authority gueranteed to be owned and individual brennan: also high risk in case off loss. My content is important, doesn't matter where it is. even if it is posted somewhere else, the important thing is that is *from me*.
back to: how to make it more attractive to less convinced and less technical people sgreger: write high-level idea document indiewebify me is more technical debugging tool, less "why do I want this/what's my best way to get there"
sbischoff: indieweb.org maybe should have clearer examples for the benefits, to make it easier "what does it mean for me"
is there a list of indieweb use cases?
- self-dogfooding is the underlying ideas
potential selling point is "personal archive" for social media.
POSSE vs PESOS? Maybe PESOS is a better starter compromise for DIY setup. ( users still are used to old tools)