2016/Brighton/beyondstreams
Beyond the Stream was a session at IndieWebCamp Brighton 2016.
Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/beyondstreams
Participants
- adactio.com
- tantek.com
- aaronpk.com
- sgreger
- jkphl
- petermolnar
- ... add yourself
Notes
Other ways to show posts other than time-ordered feeds
Summary
- last post in several categories
- most minimal: just your most recent post (glennjones) at the top
Linear
- grouped by category
- list of things found by related tags/content
- "algorithm" time-ish ordered subset. some items from the recent past.
Linear Clustered
- calendar view, e.g. aaronpk's year achives: aaronpk.com/2016
Two Dimensional
- on a map
axes
- time - stream, calendar, streamgraph, sparklines
- location - maps, streamgraph
- content - show related posts, group by subject of photo, tag cloud, pinned post, highlighted select few posts, popularity
IndieWeb Examples
adactio
everything shows up in main stream
aaronpk
- home page is some automatic filtering of post types, but any post can be promoted to the home page manually
- shows the last sleep, last food, last photo, and next event
- https://aaronparecki.com/2016 and https://aaronparecki.com/2016/09 - calendar style view of posts
tantek
- I don't want to mess with the timeline so I don't include the future on my home page
- future-dated posts do not appear on the home page, but can be seen at their URL and can be navigated to with the "next" button
sgreger
- sidebar is algorithmically curated (never have more than 3 bookmarks)
- intent is the stream on the left is related to the permalink being viewed
glenn
- displays only the last post on the home page
- a very strong entrance
- if the latest post is an article, it does not show up here
Silo Examples
flickr
- time-ordered both by photo taken and photo uploaded
- grouped by category/content "magic view"
- map view
Brainstorming
is time the ultimately best solution to organize a site
- most indieweb sites are organized along a time line
- historically, indieweb has been looking at the silos and recreating the experience
- but more and more silos are moving away from chiefly timeline (though still mostly based on time)
- alternative approach: organizing by content topics
- one of the challenges of indieweb sites compared to silos is that we do not know our audience (no "following" feature)
- idea: recreate the silo experience by e.g. creating a cookie and offering on next visit primarily what the user consumed last time
- risk of a filter bubble, but could be made visible in the UI
- adactio: "the problem is not the filter bubble, it's that it is opaque"
- aaronpk: the issue might be best solved by a reader?
- could it be some interactive element
other relevant notions
there are also other ways to push relevant posts to readers (re: glenn's "last post only" approach
- pinned posts
- "my most popular posts"
- "on this day last year"
- filter bubble reversed: randomness
other non-linear ideas
- streamgraph: http://benjaminbenben.com/2012/11/04/lastfm-canvas-streamgraph/
- http://feltron.com/2014
- tag - location correlance ( which tags are common in which locations )
other notes
solution for former website snapshotting: http://wkhtmltopdf.org/docs.html
( subnote: run as /usr/bin/xvfb-run -- /usr/bin/wkhtmltoimage --height Y --width X --format png http://domain.com out.png )
readers
aaronpk: As a vegetarian, I don't want to see all of adactio's photos of fish, but I do want to see his other photos
Woodwind.xyz is a reader
tantek: I want to build the notebook from Adjustment Bureau as my reader:
(x-axis is time, y-axis represents packed location using various algorithms; the length of the lines in y-direction represent the distance traveled?)
http://benjaminbenben.com/2012/11/04/lastfm-canvas-streamgraph
See Also