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Community Design was was a session at IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017 discussing how to create a feeling of community across indie web pages.

Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/community

IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017

Session: Community Design

When: 2017-11-04 15:30



How to connect IndieWeb pages?

  • what ideas do we have to create a distributed network experience, vs. the feeling of islands on the web
  • there is a reason fb, twitter etc. are so popular: they create the feeling of community
  • we want ot see the social context

have efforts been done to link websites to other indieweb sites?

  • could be an area on the site that shows conversations going on with you

Jeena Paradies two parts to it:

  • seeing conversations themselves (webmentions etc)
  • seeing the social context; we don't have anything in this direction so far (apart from IRC people page)

what twitter/instagram are showing::

  • who the person is interensted in
  • who are interested in that person
  • what dialogies do they have
  • --> maybe we could have some similar experience

following per se is anonymous on the web --> could it be optional?


  • list of interactions
  • demo of indieweb social at portland iwc (incoming/outgoing links; limitatioN. only captures the active "followers", not those who are just reading not interacting)
  • number of rss subscribers
  • explicit "i am following you" post type?
    • e.g. "to express your status as follower, like my homepage"
    • show more content to users logging in, eg. through indieauth (preconsitiond would be working private posting)
  • ompl lists
    • not usually public
    • people could publish their ompl files to show whom they are following
  • XFN, see indieweb.org/XFN
    • could be in addition to OMPL
  • resembles the 2007 attempts (Tim Berners-Lee etc.) to establish a semantic gloabl social graph on the web; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF_(ontology)

semantics apart, but how do you show it? - what does the bare bare relationship model bring us? - google took a nosedive with that: "circles" -

Jeena Paradies has a separate list of comments on his site; not nice to look at, but a comprehensive list of comments

a fb profile page shows not only the users posts, but also things otherss ahve done in reation to that person, eg tagging them in a picture

oliver: motivation problem

  • people willing to pay to find out who is following them
  • people very reserved as to their own following patterns to be public
  • e.g. twitters forced puublicity of followers affects the interactions happending on twitter
  • the network increases itself

Sebastian Greger there is also a risk that we are loosing some of the freedoms that the oepn we provides vs. eg twitter: i can follow somebody without telling anybody

privacy issues with tagging

  • would it possible to be tagged out from e.g. SWAT0?
  • implicit vs. static relationship

open question at the end: does the relationship need to be automatic or manual?