2017/Berlin/communitydesign

Community Design was was a session at IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017 discussing how to create a feeling of community across indie web pages.

Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/community

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IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017

Session: Community Design

When: 2017-11-04 15:30

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Notes

How to connect IndieWeb pages?

• what ideas do we have to create a distributed network experience, vs. the feeling of islands on the web
• there is a reason fb, twitter etc. are so popular: they create the feeling of community
• we want ot see the social context

have efforts been done to link websites to other indieweb sites?

• could be an area on the site that shows conversations going on with you

Jeena Paradies two parts to it:

• seeing conversations themselves (webmentions etc)
• seeing the social context; we don't have anything in this direction so far (apart from IRC people page)

what twitter/instagram are showing::

• who the person is interensted in
• who are interested in that person
• what dialogies do they have
• --> maybe we could have some similar experience

following per se is anonymous on the web --> could it be optional?

ideas:

• list of interactions
• demo of indieweb social at portland iwc (incoming/outgoing links; limitatioN. only captures the active "followers", not those who are just reading not interacting)
• number of rss subscribers
• explicit "i am following you" post type?
  • e.g. "to express your status as follower, like my homepage"
  • show more content to users logging in, eg. through indieauth (preconsitiond would be working private posting)
• ompl lists
  • not usually public
  • people could publish their ompl files to show whom they are following
• XFN, see indieweb.org/XFN
  • could be in addition to OMPL
• resembles the 2007 attempts (Tim Berners-Lee etc.) to establish a semantic gloabl social graph on the web; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF_(ontology)

semantics apart, but how do you show it? - what does the bare bare relationship model bring us? - google took a nosedive with that: "circles" -

Jeena Paradies has a separate list of comments on his site; not nice to look at, but a comprehensive list of comments

a fb profile page shows not only the users posts, but also things otherss ahve done in reation to that person, eg tagging them in a picture

• we have mechanisms to do this, but not much used:
  • salmentions https://indieweb.org/salmentions
  • SWAT0 https://indieweb.org/swat0

oliver: motivation problem

• people willing to pay to find out who is following them
• people very reserved as to their own following patterns to be public
• e.g. twitters forced puublicity of followers affects the interactions happending on twitter
• the network increases itself

Sebastian Greger there is also a risk that we are loosing some of the freedoms that the oepn we provides vs. eg twitter: i can follow somebody without telling anybody

privacy issues with tagging

• would it possible to be tagged out from e.g. SWAT0?
• implicit vs. static relationship

open question at the end: does the relationship need to be automatic or manual?