Community Design was was a session at IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017 discussing how to create a feeling of community across indie web pages.
Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/community
IndieWebCamp Berlin 2017
Session: Community Design
When: 2017-11-04 15:30
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How to connect IndieWeb pages?
- what ideas do we have to create a distributed network experience, vs. the feeling of islands on the web
- there is a reason fb, twitter etc. are so popular: they create the feeling of community
- we want ot see the social context
have efforts been done to link websites to other indieweb sites?
- could be an area on the site that shows conversations going on with you
Jeena Paradies two parts to it:
- seeing conversations themselves (webmentions etc)
- seeing the social context; we don't have anything in this direction so far (apart from IRC people page)
what twitter/instagram are showing::
- who the person is interensted in
- who are interested in that person
- what dialogies do they have
- --> maybe we could have some similar experience
following per se is anonymous on the web --> could it be optional?
- list of interactions
- demo of indieweb social at portland iwc (incoming/outgoing links; limitatioN. only captures the active "followers", not those who are just reading not interacting)
- number of rss subscribers
- explicit "i am following you" post type?
- e.g. "to express your status as follower, like my homepage"
- show more content to users logging in, eg. through indieauth (preconsitiond would be working private posting)
- ompl lists
- not usually public
- people could publish their ompl files to show whom they are following
- XFN, see indieweb.org/XFN
- could be in addition to OMPL
- resembles the 2007 attempts (Tim Berners-Lee etc.) to establish a semantic gloabl social graph on the web; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF_(ontology)
semantics apart, but how do you show it? - what does the bare bare relationship model bring us? - google took a nosedive with that: "circles" -
Jeena Paradies has a separate list of comments on his site; not nice to look at, but a comprehensive list of comments
a fb profile page shows not only the users posts, but also things otherss ahve done in reation to that person, eg tagging them in a picture
- we have mechanisms to do this, but not much used:
- salmentions https://indieweb.org/salmentions
- SWAT0 https://indieweb.org/swat0
oliver: motivation problem
- people willing to pay to find out who is following them
- people very reserved as to their own following patterns to be public
- e.g. twitters forced puublicity of followers affects the interactions happending on twitter
- the network increases itself
Sebastian Greger there is also a risk that we are loosing some of the freedoms that the oepn we provides vs. eg twitter: i can follow somebody without telling anybody
privacy issues with tagging
- would it possible to be tagged out from e.g. SWAT0?
- implicit vs. static relationship
open question at the end: does the relationship need to be automatic or manual?