Comments Replies and Responsibility was a session at IndieWebCamp Austin 2020.
- Video: ▶️47:47s
Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/whosincharge
IndieWebCamp 2020 Austin
Session: Comments Replies and Responsibility
When: 2020-02-22 14:00
- Jack V. (session facilitator)
- Cornelius Toole
- Manton Reece
- Grant Hutchins
- Greg McVerry
Maintaining comments on your blog can be difficult and draining and is a barrier to keeping up the energy to blog.
Sometimes people post things that are factually inaccurate.
Sometimes people target others because of their big readership
Tantek: People also seem to target those more vulnerable. Women are attacked online much more often than men. Similarly URMs are attacked much more often online than white people.
Jack: When I first joined Twitter, felt like I had to reply right away. Not so much any more.
Grant: years ago on Twitter I used to reply back and forth with people, not so much any more
Jack: If someone @-mentions you on Twitter, do you feel responsible to respond quickly or not?
Grant: not anymore
Greg McVerry I still engage in weekly twitter chats, scheduled one hour chats that have a Q/A format, a lot of replies, my issue is syndicated decontextualized replies. Then I follow more hashtags than people.
Jack: My concept in email or chat used to be "I have to respond now". If someone is actively behaving badly, worst case, coordinated things.
Jack: How do you mitigate being targeted? E.g. on micro.blog?
Jack: Is it your responsibility to deal with the people in your comments?
Jack: I like the idea of pausing.
- Cornelius: What are the primary reasons people don't have comments?
- I'll give one, a comment is someone else's content, but it's in your space.
- I remove native comments from Known because of spam. Didn't install the Askimet plugin
- They are tehcnincally hard to install if you aren't using a commercial CMS
Cornelius: People no longer worry about what content they attach their real name to, e.g. with Facebook comments embeds.
Tantek: Anil Dash wrote a blog post about the responsibility of having comments from others on your website
Cornelius: What tools would help me do this? What tools can I have that give me leverage? Are there filters?
Jack: Part of the good thing of webmentions is that if I'm going to post trash, I have to post trash to my own space.
- Agree being from your own website and connected to webmentions rather than social media will make people behave more
- Yet if someone had moderated webmentions and they were used as an attack vector moderating is still emotionally taxing
Tantek: There's also more awareness of the problems of tone-policing, and silencing of less privileged voices.
Grant: There's a growing awareness of consent in the past few years in online networks.
Grant: I can close my browser window, but I can't stop my phone from ringing.
Jack: I know I'm a white male dude that doesn't face the problems / challenges that a lot of people face, because of my privilege.
Grant: There's also the problem of context collapse.
- See related: https://indieweb.org/publics
Justine Sacco tweeted something offensive and got on a plane. By the time she landed, there was a large mob of people waiting for her at the airport to harrass her. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html
Jeanie: At micro.blog there is a culture that you do not need to reply to something right away. Especially if you have a global conversation. You can not do that synchronously
- Grant: Yeah and with people ADD they will move on to the next fire
- Jack: And if it is important to you will come back. How do we build in pauses.
Grant: As a counter example two people were saved from a trafficking crime because of quick response on Metafilter.
Jack: Maybe don't post something that's funny but offensive?
Cornelius: The web, it's free speech but not free reach.
Articles about commenting, responsibility, curating:
- 2008-07-28 10 Ways Newspapers Can Improve Comments
- 2010-06-15 Your right to comment ends at my front door.
- 2012-09-18 Curating Comments Threads
- My husband coined a new term this morning. acahole /ˌakəˈhōl/ noun : someone who engages in academic trolling : a special breed of internet troll