2019/Utrecht/discovery

Discovery on the indieweb was a session at IndieWebCamp Utrecht 2019.

Notes archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/discovery

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IndieWebCamp Utrecht 2019
Session: Discovery on the indieweb
When: 2019-05-18 16:35

Participants

• Neil Mather
• Jeremy Cherfas
• Rosemary Orchard
• Frank Meeuwsen
• Sebastiaan Andeweg
• Djoerd
• Martijn van der Ven
• Dylan
• Dora remote
• David Shanske remote
• Add yourself here… (see this for more details)

Notes

• how do we make this the year of discovery?
• how do we build an indieweb version of Nuzzel?
• Discovery: micro.blog has hand curated feed - just 1 person, community manager of micro.blog
  • some downsides - 1 person, 1 timezone, can mostly serve on US times
  • but lots of positives - potentially avoid negativity, nsfw content

• new are the emoji-feeds: feeds that work based on emoji people use. These tagmoji are restricted; the decision to have a tagmoji lies with micro.blog
• also a photos feed at /discover/photo; does not include photos that have come in from a non-hosted site via a feed.
• muted people are filtered out
• aaron has a page - aaronpk.com/emoji - profile pic changes based on emoji in the post
• seb also has this on his site - seblog.nl/emoji

• stream.indieweb.org - public indieweb feed - comes from aaron's aperture, curated by aaron
  • similar to micro.blog in that it is curated - except aaron curates who goes in to the feed, and only for #indieweb hashtag (or link to indieweb.org)

• indiewebring is another way of discovering people - clicking on the links in the webring takes you to a new person in the ring

• belong.io - an example that needs adding to the discovery page (andy baio of xoxo festival)
  • links from people that he follows that are talked about or interacted with a lot

• ( Ton Zijlstra: I have a Twitter harvester running for hashtags of interest, get the links from them rank them by usage today / last week, and resolve shortened links to indicate types (video, presentation, pdf, blog etc.)
  • similar to Nuzzel approach

• would you rather be addicated to facebook/twitter or the indieweb?
  • on facebook you know you are being played with

• another example: bulletin.p3k.io/indieweb
  • similar to belong.io - links mentioned in the indieweb channel - sorted by recency and how many people are talking about it

• discovery vs discoverability - how you want to be discovered
• can you follow a particular hashtag?

• indieweb.xyz
  • people can submit based on a particular topic
  • it could be combined with curation

• kickscondor.com/hrefhunt
  • personal websites that he thinks are cool and worth sharing

• automationorchard.com
  • python scripts pulling from rss feeds
  • manually built list of websites to be included

• https://seblog.nl/2018/10/22/13/three-things-about-readers
  • graph db - neo4j
  • looks at feeds and pulls the likes from it
  • captures who likes different posts
  • both aaron and seb like a particular tweet
  • the db can be queried to pull out posts with greater number of tweets
  • seb discovered joschi through seeing a like from someone else
  • you can see likes from the feeds that you follow
  • could also work on links, bookmarks, etc - doesn't have to just be likes
  • would like to let you 'choose your own algorithm'
  • github.com/sebsel/leesmap
  • one in laravel and one in elixir

• aaron: separating readers in to smaller projects helped build it
  • same could be done for discovery
  • split the problem into smaller projects
    • algorithm is one of the hard parts
  • could existing building blocks help?
    • maybe websub - could be used as part of building a crawler

• Ton Zijlstra publishes an opml list of the feeds I follow, so others can explore that.
  • Chris Aldrich does the same, I believe.

See Also

• 2019/Utrecht/Schedule
• discovery