gRegorLoveReleased my ProcessWire webmention code! The core sending/receiving/processing is pretty stable, but I'm still developing /Vouch support as well as an admin interface to view/approve incoming webmentions, so I'm considering it "beta" for now.
voxpelli!tell KartikPrabhu If you have realtime updates of WebMentions then all you really need to do to deliver feedback is to have the submit happen over Ajax â€“ the update will come back when it's ready, which might take a while
Loqipfefferle: snarfed left you a message 2 days, 10 hours ago: hi! looks like your semantic-linkbacks repos have diverged, and each one has useful new features (filters vs salmentions). mind picking one to be the single canonical repo, and then merge them? thanks in advance! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-19/line/1437355029097
LanceyWorkhas anyone thought about an infobox or other template on the wiki that we can apply to post type pages that displays general information such as the microformats syntax or silos that implement it?
tantek!tell KartikPrabhu cont'd from last night re: comments box: the idea is that every "native" blog comment box turns into a simple indie reply authoring micropub client, so you can write a comment inline when viewing a post on someone's site, have it post to your site, then show up right there on the page you're viewing.
bearit could be like subtome - if js is enabled it's a box that allows content input and uses your local store config to post micropub; if js not enabled it's a redirect to a service to enable comments
Loqiindie-config is a method of using protocol handlers and postmessage to setup your indie website to both notify the browser that it can handle webactions and then do so https://indiewebcamp.com/indie-config
voxpellitantek: yeah, but if you're not logged in to your site you may have to log in before and since it's an iframe you're not sure if the form you're seeing is being proxied through a phishing site or something :/
cdevroeCould do a time limited cookie that does a round trip from your personal domain to the site you're trying to comment on to create a cookie there. So... if you're not logged in: 1) click reply, 2) takes a trip to your personal domain, sets temp cookie 3) reroutes back to origin domain endpoint, sets temp cookie 4) write reply, click send 5) posts variables to personal site, saves
tantek.comedited /comment (+141) "start fixing this page to be primarily about reply than comment as the name of the standalone post, before the comment split, start clustering reply vs comment" (view diff)
voxpellikylewm: if an app we're to continiously parse irc-people for new users and then call https://github.com/voxpelli/relspider#apilookup asking for more data about that user, then that would pretty much solve it â€“ also supports webhooks for callbacks if the user hans't been crawled already
voxpellikylewm: only thing I haven't really solved that well in the current version of relspider is the recrawling. Then I tried to look into strategies for that. Aaand I found a rabbit hole. A very deep such :)
Jeenavoxpelli that is an interesting idea, I don't use WordPress because my servers got owned 3 times because I forgot some old wordpress installation was still running somewhere, but if it is in a container then even if they find some bug in WordPress it still wouldn't compromise the whole server
LoqiKartikPrabhu: voxpelli left you a message 10 hours, 5 minutes ago: If you have realtime updates of WebMentions then all you really need to do to deliver feedback is to have the submit happen over Ajax â€“ the update will come back when it's ready, which might take a while http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-22/line/1437552093574
LoqiKartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 5 minutes ago: cont'd from last night re: comments box: the idea is that every "native" blog comment box turns into a simple indie reply authoring micropub client, so you can write a comment inline when viewing a post on someone's site, have it post to your site, then show up right there on the page you're viewing. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-22/line/1437580908416
Jeenatantek do you have an example of a offline website I could look at? I mean I want a nice UI which means I want to be able to start it on my phone from the home menu, or on the desktop as an application
JeenaI wrote https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/feedmonkey/ which is a HTML/CSS/JS application which works offline. But I made it installable on the phone because I miss some detail in how to make it so it won't want to redownload the app from the internet when I get on the websige in the browser when I'm offline
snarfedmy point is that "build a pure indieweb solution" is a good way to get functionality, but definitely not the *only acceptable* way, especially for stuff like mobile offline readers that are very substantial projects
Loqivoxpelli meant to say: just such a thing like https requires any web based feed reader on https to load all post images through some kind of proxy â€“ and if you do, then some kind of cache makes sense as well
dhalgrenrandom q: I see quite a lot of references to IndieWeb tech in the w3c's social web process. how is that relationship expected to go? I mean, will there be eventual interoperability with current oStatus, pump.io etc networks or what exactly is the roadmap/vision here?
LoqiTypical use of the term roadmap does not refer to actual roads, maps, or maps of roads - instead, keep a personal priority ordered list of what you're specifically Working On, and for unsorted or vague desires, add them to an unordered Itches list, on your User page or your project's page https://indiewebcamp.com/roadmap
dhalgrentantek: thx! I saw a gnu mediagoblin lecture yesterday, that's how I found these Social Web WG pages. I was simply plesently surprised by the apparent awareness of this community there; thought the federated social webs were going a rather separate way from the DIY spirit here.
tantekwhether or not any particular monoculture can be patched to federated with other implementation is a good question. we can submit pull requests, and sometimes document attempts to do so, but so far progress with connecting /monoculture communities/efforts has been slow
Loqitantek meant to say: whether or not any particular monoculture can be patched to federate with other implementation is a good question. we can submit pull requests, and sometimes document attempts to do so, but so far progress with connecting /monoculture communities/efforts has been slow
dhalgrenindeed. though I see there really are tens of thousands of people that are free of silos using one of those federated social webs today, according to some partial census I found; that's alot of early adopters; I gather this community is much smaller, even though I'd have a far easier time implementing and interoperating with the IndieWeb.
tantekdhalgren - the problem being that each of those supposed "federated social webs" is its own monoculture due to being single-implementation based, which puts a lot of constraints / limitations on their growth / interop
dhalgrenGWG: nothing too fancy, but improving my haskell skills basically, and publishing the results as a reusable library and a blog (I've got too many writings I liked that ended up only as a deeply nested obscure reddit comment) - a statically generated blog skeleton using hakyll (that part I have but the code is terrible, was trying some idioms I didn't understand) , with frontend js using functional reactive programming (reflex lib prob
LoqiReddit is a link aggregator and bulletin board site where community members may submit links and text posts, vote on the submitted entries, and post comments on them https://indiewebcamp.com/Reddit
dhalgrenre domain name, I'll take the official one my government is offering. no anonymity but first.last.from.hr , being free & secure (linked to personal ID). could out me if someone searches for my reddit profile on the basis of those sentences, but I figure its no longer such a big deal (hope?)
aaronpkit's unfortunate we didn't get this into the parsers from the very beginning, but the idea is that the "value" property should always be a useful fallback if you don't understand what the object is
aaronpkif we can make the h-entry spec say that the value of the "comment" properties must always be a URL, then as a consumer I can always expect a URL as the value, whether there's an h-cite, h-entry or it's just a URL