2020/West/Proposals

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Session Proposals

Session proposals typically contain the following: 1. A descriptive title 2. A facilitator name for a session (almost always the person proposing the session) 3. A longer description about what might be discussed, brainstormed, or researched during a particular session 4. A unique short hashtag that will be used to create an etherpad and other possible related resources for a session

Optionally, you can include some additional notes, information, links, examples, that might be imported into the session or that potential attendees could read and think about prior to the session.

Need ideas? Try looking at https://indieweb.org/Category:Sessions

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Scheduling

  • Red Room
    • 1:15 pm Codeless automation tools and the indieweb + How webmentions and the web work
    • 2:30 pm Here Today, Gone Tomorrow
    • 3:45 pm Posting Privately
    • 5:00 pm Keeping Track of Books and Reading Progress
  • Orange Room
    • 1:15 pm Micropub Queries
    • 2:30 pm Tag, You're It
    • 3:45 pm Hovercards
    • 5:00 pm Cooking for Others
  • Yellow Room
    • 1 pm n/a
    • 2 pm n/a
    • 3pm n/a
    • 4 pm n/a
  • Hallway Track
    • Can be used for informal chats


Codeless automation tools and the indieweb (Scheduled)

  • Peter Molnar (facilitator)
  • Scott Gruber (facilitator)
  • Introduction about http and web technologies underlying the Webmentions spec for beginners
  • IFTTT, Zapier, Integromat, etc - how can they be useful for us, who is using for them, and for what
    • discussion on using these tools for indieweb purposes, such as syndication, PESOS, etc
    • benefits and drawbacks
    • personal experiences with these services
    • demos, if anyone can provide one
  • #automatinators
  • +1 Ryan Barrett
  • +1 David Bryant
  • +1 Jacky Alciné
  • +1 Ana Ulin
  • +1 hibs
  • +1 Chaitanya
  • +1 Maxwell Joslyn


Micropub Queries (Scheduled)


Tag You Are It! (Scheduled)

Scheduled! 14:30 Orange Room

  • David Shanske (facilitator)
  • One of the common relationships you'll find in various platforms is the ability to mention/tag or otherwise refer to people in a post. There are several elements needed to make this work smoothly on your own site.
    • Nickname Caches - a contact list where you can tag people without having to type out their entire URL...such as @johndoe
    • Tagging/Mentioning People in Posts - how to publish
    • Salmentions for tagging
    • Homepage Tag/Mentions
    • What would a simple UI look like?

+1 Maxwell Joslyn


Hovercards (Scheduled)

  • Chris Aldrich
  • Many social silos (like Twitter, WordPress (via Gravatar)) have hovercard functionality that allows one to hover over a user's name and it pulls up

a convenient card to provide more information about ther person often including photos, a description, and where they can be found on the web. How can we create an easier way of doing this on IndieWeb sites (preferrably using only HTML with a bit of CSS)? Perhaps we can leverage the idea of an h-card or services like unmung.com or other parser coded? Could a service along the lines of Quotebacks be created to make it easier to cut and paste data into posts? Could they include simple one button functionality that dovetails with readers to make following people in feed readers or social readers?

<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

  • #Hovercards

Maxwell Joslyn I am way into this. After all, if you have (a link to) someone's h-card, aren't you one (?) step away from all the info you need? The JS demands don't seem too high -- make a request, put those values into an HTML tree, insert into the DOM -- but devils dwell in details, and I am not a web developer. "find some method of making directly mentioning people" YES

  • +1 Jacky Alciné
  • +1 Tantek Çelik - would love to understand the use-case to see if we can do pure-CSS (no JS) hovercards, sounds like a fun hack project, maybe even a web component? (My demo linked above already does CSS-only! ;) - Kartik)


Posting Privately (Scheduled)

  • fluffy - willing to facilitate but participation will be limited
  • One of the big impediments to private blogging is allowing people to subscribe to updates in a private way
  • AutoAuth is a proposed protocol but there aren't any working end-to-end implementations in the wild
  • Discuss current privacy approaches and find a path forward for interoperability (both IndieWeb and also with other mechanisms that are silo-compatible)
  • +
  • +1 Jacky Alciné
  • +1 David Somers [omz13] - this is something I want to implement at some stage - not sure I can attend the session as its getting late for me here (sorry!)
  • +1 Tantek Çelik really need to keep exploring private posts and other forms of personal control / agency over your content, access etc.
  • +1 Manton Reece
  • Chris Aldrich
  • +1 David Shanske
  • +1 Aaron Parecki
  • +1 Joseph Dickson


Here Today, Gone Tomorrow (Scheduled)

+1 Peter Molnar - I'm always in for archiving topics +1 David Shanske +1 Manton Reece +1 fluffy +1 kongaloosh +1 gRegor Morrill +1 Beto Dealmeida +1 Tantek Çelik +1 Greg McVerry +1 Chaitanya

Cooking for Others (Scheduled)

  • Greg McVerry (facilitator)
  • Cooking for yourself, formerly known in the community as self-dogfiooding has been a sustainable force and emphasized doing over talking. Yet at the same time our space has remained pretty white and male. Do we need to consider building for others in order to address white supremacy, the patriarchy, and decolonizing the web. Come to this session to share community projects you have developed or to brainstorm how we build with more people for a more inclusive web.
  • Topics could include
    • organizing events
    • onboarding UX
    • community outreach

+1 fluffy +1 Ana Ulin +1 Jacky Alciné +1 Tantek Çelik -- I feel like we can build upon the Restaurant metaphor from Jacky's keynote +1 Grant Richmond scheduling note: Greg asks this session doesn't fall between 530-630pm Eastern


Keeping Track of Books and Reading Progress

Scheduled! 17:00 Red Room


Hold Over for a Future Camp

  • The sessions below either didn't have facilitators present or didn't fit into the schedule. We can archive them for future sessions, camps, or pop-up sessions
  • A copy of these can also be found at 2020/Pop-up/Sessions for future convenience

Offline sites

  • Peter Molnar (facilitator)
  • discusion about what offline is, how websites could utilize it, and how we could benefit from it
    • most static sites could be built to be filesystem/offline available - relative urls, including filenames - is it a good idea?
    • Ties in a littlebit with archiving and longevity topic (see Here Today, Gone Tomorrow above)
    • should we all have simple service workers to make our site available offline? If yes, should it preload the whole site?
  • #offlineweb
  • +1 Tantek Çelik - I have some experience here (with offline sites) and would like to understand what to do next


JSON-LD to mf2

  • Peter Molnar (facilitator)
  • as monsterous as it sounds, many modern tools are heavily JSON-LD oriented. Would a drop-in JS solution, that turns certain JSON-LD structures into mf/mf2 be useful?
    • Greg McVerry JSON-LD gigantic in the edtech world, moving back and forth woruld open up possibilities
  • #jsonldisamonster
  • +1 Ryan Barrett
  • 0 {{gwg} - neutral as I turn JSON-LD into MF2 (why did you do that to yourself? :) ) To read sites that don't have MF2


Motivation - why to have a homepage?

  1. emotionalcore

(this could be combined with Scott Gruber session...Why have your own web page through lens of quickly building webpage on why having a homepage is important

    • this is ~100% the design choice of almost 82% of the people I onboard
      • what decision choice you mean here?
  • +1 Tantek Çelik

My Uncomplicated IndieWeb Setup in WordPress

By Joseph Dickson How I configured my WordPress site with IndieWeb Plugins at www.LinuxBookPro.com IndieWeb Plugins https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/indieweb/ (Note to Organizer: Lowest Possible Priroity - I expect this would last no more than 15 minutes, I haven't prepared.)

  • {gwg} wants to see this, as curious. Will struggle to keep comments to minimum.

Alternate presentations for Webmentions in comments sections

+1 fluffy +1 David Shanske - Want to support this in WP +1 David Bryant -- I can recap my partial implementation on top of Eleventy and point to additional Eleventy + Webmention resources +1 gRegor Morrill +1 Tantek Çelik -- I like the Arthur C. Clarke definition, and yes Webmention is sufficiently advanced :)

Storage and Presentation for Reply Contexts and Link Previews

  • Facilitator Welcome...
  • +1 David Shanske Looking to discuss again how you store and display previews to other URLs for reply-contexts and more.
  • +1 Tantek Çelik personally still exploring storage for reply-contexts and would like to build on related discussions from IWS 2019

Build a web page with HTML and CSS

Scott Gruber (facilitator) Greg McVerry A hands on workshop or demo for beginners to feel HTML Energy. We will introduce HTML5 header, nav, main, aside and footer elements to build and style a page with CSS Grid, Flexbox and MultiColumn layout

Domain of One's Own LMS

  • Chris Aldrich (facilitator)

+1 Greg McVerry +1 kongaloosh +1 Steve Williams I've done Blackboard for so long, my soul might be irredemeable. Always interested in new ways of easing teaching learning frictions online.

Cool Chris to do session later too!!
Sorry cant speak. My mom watching her soap opera just now
  • The coronavirus pandemic has rapidly forced educators to flee online where there is a wealth of predatory, amoral, and questionable platforms for managing online pedagogy. Starting closer to first principles, how might we design and build an LMS (Learning Management System) based on IndieWeb Principles or using the related ideas behind A Domain of One's Own where the teacher and students own their own content, learning content, and personal learning network. Can we dovetails ideas and principles from the Open Educational Resources (OER) space with this at the same time?
  • #DoOOLMS

Gardens & Streams II


Badges and Gamification


Rainbow Bridge to The Future

  • Ki Xia (facilitator)
  • How do we use our skills as people who "took the red pill" to connect existing mainstream communities online, and provide support to those exiting the major platforms?

^Totally open to other wording, as it's 4 hours past my bedtime. :'( [I suggest "indieweb adoptees" / "participants" / "practicioners" instead of "people who took the red pill" - Maxwell Joslyn]

  • Topics could include:
    • AWS and Amazon's announcement of nocode
    • Spotify's landgrab
    • user-friendly middle ground apps, like Micro.blog (does Ghost qualify?)
    • building micro-communities for non-coders
    • extra support for POC, LGB..., neurodiverse, and differently-abled

[this sounds very similar to the Cooking for Others stuff above; maybe merge the two sessions? -- Ana Ulin ]


Ethics (too late to think of catchy title, maybe tomorrow!)

  • Ki Xia (facilitator)
  • Tracking. Url shorteners. Hit counters. Affiliate income. Accepting fiat money. Perpetuating myths v. surviving with kids.

^Totally open to other wording, as it's 4 hours past my bedtime. :'(

  • Topics could include:
    • Aaron Parecki's mention tonight of how he gives things for free (where will that lead? how does that work for him?)
    • tbc

Maxwell Joslyn I don't know what you mean by "perpetuating myths vs surviving with kids", but I would like to know. Also would like to know how fiat money plays into your ideas here. Speaking of money, here are ideas for this session - website to website economy (indie payments anyone?); adding monetization to one's website (and the ethics thereof).


State of the Music Industry

  • Ki Xia (facilitator)
  • Wtf is happening.

^Totally open to other wording, as it's 4 hours past my bedtime. :'(

  • Topics could include:
    • Derek Sivers' new book on music (he just released yesterday IN HTML!!!)
    • can we help birth a new music industry outside of ASCAP/BMI?
    • building micro-communities
    • See Also

https://indieweb.org/musician Maxwell Joslyn +1 i am mildly interested, as a total outsider to music industry +1 to this Own Your Music Greg McVerry

    • Quit Spotify and buy an album a month...Feed artists

+1 fluffy (also bandcamp is the best way to support artists) +1 Beto Dealmeida (+1 on bandcamp) +1 gRegor Morrill (outsider but also interested)


Creating a Fund for Next Gen

  • Ki Xia (facilitator)
  • My 15 year old, who can't drive or do anything at the moment, learned nocode in 1 day because I offered him $15 to make me a job posting board. To solve my problem of posting multiple POC/women in tech gigs, in 1 place across different communities. The next day, he published what he called a "text game" on Itchio, put it up for sale, and then we discovered he had created a MUD. All with no direct adult assistance. What would it take to foster this for more kids, when their whole world is burning?
  • Kai your son is welcome to join us https://tech-4-teens.club starts next week. Here is registration: https://www.cfalct.org/tech4teens
    • My 9 year old 7 year old want to come to this session

^Totally open to other wording, as it's 4 hours past my bedtime. :'(

  • Topics could include:
    • Raspberry Pi and that whole world (that is beyond me)
    • Homebrew Server Club, with solar power
    • computer and server building as environmental activism
    • teaching of digital minimalism and responsibility of digital waste/bloat

Maxwell Joslyn +1. "Ways to foster self-directed learning". Though, it might be that one good way is to leave the kid alone (within reason) and let them noodle around until they figure it out, as your son did with making a MUD. Another direction could be a tie-in to homeschooling. hey Greg McVerry if you're reading this - you are officially pinged in your capacity as a professor of education :^) +1 Peter Molnar I've veen self-hosting for a long while (including email)


Instructions

Sessions are the heart of a camp.

Unlike traditional conference formats, IndieWebCamps have a self-organizing character, relying on the passion and the responsibility of the participants.

Attendees typically schedule sessions by writing on a large Post-It note or piece of paper and then placing them on a 'grid' of sessions by timeslot and conference room or space. Since we're doing this camp entirely online, we're using an Etherpad, an open source, real-time, collaborative document editing tool, to collect session proposals both in advance of the camp as well as the morning of the camp.

Session proposals typically contain the following:

  • A descriptive title
  • A facilitator name for a session (almost always the person proposing the session)
  • A longer description about what might be discussed, brainstormed, or researched during a particular session
  • A unique short hashtag that will be used to create an etherpad and other possible related resources for a session

Everyone is encouraged to submit session ideas. There isn't such a thing as a bad idea for a session. You don't need to know something about a particular topic to actually propose it, it may just be something you'd like to learn about.

If you're not sure where to start for ideas, simply ask yourself any of the following:

  • What would I like my website to be able to do?
  • How did xyz get their site to do something?
  • I'd like to quit using social silo X? What would I need to do to replace that functionality to do that on my own website?
  • What would I like to learn about this weekend?
  • What could I help others to learn based on my past experience?
  • Are there pages/ideas from the wiki that might benefit from a brainstorming session?
  • ...

Past sessions are also a great source of ideas, and it can often be a good idea to revisit old session ideas to discuss new methods of approaching a problem, new design ideas, or new ideas that have come up since prior sessions.

Once everyone has had the chance to write down one (or even more) session ideas, everyone takes turns one at a time to place their Post-Its into slots on the session grid for particular time slots and rooms. Most often, new attendees are given the chance to schedule their proposals first. If there are similar or overlapping session proposals, session facilitators can discuss concatenating them into a single session.

Once all the proposals have been put on the schedule, attendees may often do quick shows of hands for who would like to attend particular sessions to attempt to maximize attendance to physical site spaces (i.e., popular sessions should be placed into the larger rooms for each timeslot). If attendees are particularly torn between competing sessions, they can propose that facilitators move time periods in an effort to maximize attendee preference and session attendance.

Below is an example of what an in-person session grid looks like. We'll be using the session proposal etherpad to create a digital online version of this.


Questions

Do you have questions about how to propose a session or need some technical help? Join us in the IndieWeb chat and members of the community will try to help.

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