wikifying

From IndieWeb

wikifying is the practice of capturing information and ideas on the wiki. E.g. "We need to wikify that FAQ, concept, jargon, or etherpad".

Follow the step by step directions on this page to:

  • Step 1: Create your wiki page.
  • Step 2: Edit your wiki page.
  • Step 3: (optional) add your self to chat-names
  • Step 4: (optional) create a sparkline so there is a picture next your chat-name

Then begin to contribute to the wiki.

Why Join the IndieWeb Wiki

As a community, we eschew email in lieu of real-time chat and documentation of the important points on the wiki to make it easier to search and build information and documentation over time.

When you join the wiki you help our community grow and also provide documentation of your journey. This helps the next person who, like you, wants to control their data in the place that they own.

Each person who joins the wiki has a user page they maintain and build over time. You can shape your page to tell your story. As you get started please consider these examples as you look for ideas.

IndieWeb Examples

How to Join the IndieWeb Wiki

Unlike other sites where you choose a username and password, you only need your domain name to log in to this wiki. It uses indielogin.com to authenticate you. If you have not done so already, set up web sign-in on your domain so you can be authenticated and log in.

In addition to being able to log into the wiki, this web sign-in should also allow you to log into and RSVP to events as well as to use many other IndieWeb building blocks like publishing apps and social readers.

Step One: Create your user page

After logging in, visit your user page. Then click Create. You can choose two templates to add a profile to your page.

  • Minimum Profile
  • Infobox Profile

If you want to edit your page at a later date go to your own user page (or click your domain name at the top right). From there, click Edit.

Minimum Profile

The IndieWeb community uses h-cards to identify people online. This is like a business card for your website.

The smallest h-card includes your name and a link to your website. 

<span class="h-card">[https://example.com/ Your Name]</span>

Infobox Profile

If you would like to include a profile box like Aaron Parecki for example, we have created a template for you.

Go to Infobox person and copy the entire template. Then return to the Edit tab of your user page (or click Create if there isn't already a page). Paste the template onto your user page. Replace/fill out the relevant data you'd like to display. You can use the Show Changes button at the bottom of the page to preview how things will look before you save them. Once things look the way you'd like them to save your changes. Remember you can always make changes later if you'd like to.

Avoid creating separate User pages

Your domain is your login when you sign in to the wiki, so your wiki "User:" page will also be your domain. This provides a profile page for your login and your wiki contributions are linked to it. Please do not create separate "User:" pages that are your name, nickname, etc.

When you (or anyone else) visit(s) your "User:" page, you will see a link in the sidebar (left or right depending on theme) to "User contributions", which you (or anyone) can click to see your recent contributions to the wiki.

Any separate "User:" pages are "fake" and don't have any login information associated with them so they lack such a "User contribution" link for you or anyone to check your contributions to the wiki.

If you do (whether accidentally or with good intentions) create a separate "User:" page, you can either delete it or redirect it to your actual "User:" page with your login domain.

If you mistakenly redirect your actual "User:" page to a separate "User:" page, you may need to "Move" any contents from your separate "User:" page to your actual "User:" page, overwriting that redirect.

If someone makes one of the above mistakes, please reach out to them on chat and alert them, linking them to this section to advise them on why and how to repair their "User:" page setup.

If they are not on chat, or don’t respond, it’s ok to make such repairs accordingly, and please leave a kind comment in any edit summaries, that link back to this section explaining why, and encourage joining chat for any follow-up questions.

Step Two: Edit Your Wiki page

You can shape your wiki page any way you like. There are some common elements many community members include:

Write down your itches

Main article: itches

Next, add an itches section where you capture what you want to work on for your own site, personal online digital presence, and personal digital device usage (e.g. even when offline) in general. E.g. 

== Itches ==
* Add a more extensive [[h-card]] on my site
* Figure out a [[URL design]] for my posts
* Start posting [[notes]] manually at [[permalinks]]
* Try checking my site in indiewebify.me
* Check out [[IndieMark]] for additional ideas of things to add to my site

When you start collecting lots of itches, you may want to start prioritizing them, especially by what you're currently working on. Start a "Working on" section for that: 

== Working On ==
* the next thing I'm working on for my site
* the next next thing I'm working on getting working on my site
* ... etc.


Focus

As this is the IndieWeb, and this is about your IndieWeb user page, it should be about answering this question, continuously:

  • What is the next thing you want to get working on your personal site?

This means for example that the following are better left out and pursued elsewhere - like on your own site!

  • A personal to do list (of other non-personal-site things) - your IndieWeb user page is about work on your personal site.
  • Asking others to do work for you. Note: requests for help with IndieWeb specific itches/projects are ok, but address them to everyone, not just individuals. This is about what you want to work on - not asking others to do work.
  • Trying to get silos to do things, in general or with specific accounts - instead, document individual silo issues on the specific silo wiki pages, and follow-up there. Your itches should be about your personal site, not silos.

Additional Templates

These pre-defined wiki templates that can be added to a user page:

Step Three: Add a chat name

Optionally add yourself to chat-names. This will show your photo by your name in the chat logs and link your name to your website. It will also allow our friendly chat bot Loqi to answer "who is [username]" with information from your wiki user page.

To add a chat name visit chat-names and use the provided template.

Step Four: Add a sparkline

The IndieWeb wiki allows sparklines, a small avatar that contains your photo and your name linked to your user page. This means people can add a text snippet like 

{{your-chat-name}}

to any page to display your name linked to your user page with an option avatar displayed next to it.

  • Example: {{chrisaldrich}} entered into a wiki page will display: Chris Aldrich.

Visit the template to add a sparkline.

Why Contribute to the IndieWeb Wiki

Wikifying both in general, and particular subjects, notes, or documents, helps grow the searchable & discoverable commons of the IndieWeb community.

Is it IndieWeb related? Great, add it to the wiki. Not sure? See examples of what (not) to add:

How to Contribute to the IndieWeb Wiki

Finding pages that need improvement

If you're looking for a way to help improve the wiki, consider looking for old pages and help clean them up and improve them! The sections below describe ways you can improve pages, such as fixing typos, ensuring pages have some sort of IndieWeb relevance, adding citations, or even deleting a page.

Here are some ideas for how to find pages that are likely to need improvement.

  • Pages with the Fewest Revisions - These are pages likely to have been defined in chat and need to be expanded. (You can ignore the "redirect pages" in this list.)
  • Short Pages - These pages have very little text. Sometimes that's because a redirect was created incorrectly, or sometimes the page was defined in chat and never expanded.
  • Oldest Pages - This is a list of pages sorted by the oldest date since the last edit. They are likely to have stale information, or may not meet our current standards for wiki pages if they were created many years ago.
  • Lonely Pages - These pages are not linked to by any other page. If the page is relatively complete itself, then consider adding links to it from relevant pages it may link to.

Incremental Wikifying

Main article: expand a page

There's lots of incremental wikifying to help with.

  • fixing typos
  • expanding (and/or simplifying) a definition to include the IndieWeb relevance of the term
  • rewriting a plumbing-centric definition to a user-centric definition and move any plumbing-specific meaning to a subsequent sentence or to another page (link to it and indicate "for developers" or some equivalent phrase)
  • adding IndieWeb Examples - if you find a page for a technology you support on your site, or a project you use on your site, add yourself to the "IndieWeb Examples" for that page
  • add issues and questions (for FAQs)
  • collect questions/answers from chat and add them to the appropriate wiki page
  • organize the content of a growing page into sections per expand a page

See:

  • expand a page for many more specific suggestions for incremental wikifying.
  • to-do for specific wiki pages that need incremental improvements!

In general, small incremental edits help with understandable diffs or differences that make wiki page updates easier for the community to review and help with corrections when necessary.

Add Citations

Whenever you see Loqi (or anyone frankly) share or post a link in chat to something relevant to the indieweb, please help out by adding those as citations/examples to the wiki, and especially if they're photos, add them to event page(s).

Format citations

Here's how to "text format" citations to add them, from a minimum, to incrementally doing more work (or improving existing citations!)

link
seriously, it's ok to just add a link, that's helpful!
YYYY-MM-DD link
adding the article's publication date helps a lot by placing the link in a temporal context
YYYY-MM-DD [link article-name]
even better, go get the article name which is likely more readable/understandable/searchable/discoverable than the link. Is it a tweet link or lacking a name? Pick a summary sentence instead.
YYYY-MM-DD author: [link article-name]
even better, add the author to help provide authority or at least the context of who-from
YYYY-MM-DD {{indiewebauthor}}: [link article-name]
even better, if the author is a participant in the indieweb community use the {{}} template for their shortname / chat nickname to link their name, perhaps even provide their icon automatically

Optionally:

  • Add a blockquote inline at the end of the citation, with key relevant sentence(s) copy/pasted/quoted from the link, like this:
YYYY-MM-DD [link article-name] <blockquote>key relevant sentence(s)!</blockquote>

These are all super-easy (nearly completely) plain-text ways of just pasting/typing the information into the wiki. (Nearly) No code or markup to learn or figure out or debug. Don't worry about not being perfect, others can help with tweaking fixing things.

Keeping wiki pages mostly plain-text-like makes them easier for others to edit and improve as well!

The important thing is to just take the step of adding the information.

If you like or are familiar MediaWiki templates, you can also use:

Where to add a citation

If you don't know where in a page to put a citation, add it to the See Also section at the end.

  • You can even do this from chat by using the << trick like this:
wikipagename << YYYY-MM-DD [link article-name]

etc.

If the citation is criticism, add/move it to the Criticism section of the article.

These are all incremental steps. None are required. All are something you can help with.

Every incremental step you can help with above helps the wiki.

Even just one incremental improvement is helpful!

New pages

Main article: start a page

Please read relevant to the IndieWeb wiki before creating new pages.

Create new wiki pages for:

  • new concepts or terms being discussed, e.g. in chat
    • start with {{stub}} and a short user-centric definition that includes its indieweb relevance! (see next section)
    • they should be directly indieweb-related in some way (this isn't Wikipedia)
    • if a term has a user-centric meaning and a plumbing-centric meaning, prefer the user-centric meaning for the definition on a wiki page
  • Archive pages for Etherpad notes from IndieWebCamp and HWC sessions after they’ve finished. Archive the session notes somewhere more findable and linkable.
  • new projects you start using on your personal website; be sure to include your site in the IndieWeb Examples section on the page.

If something is not particularly indieweb-related, e.g. it didn't come up in the discussion of things that are indieweb-related, perhaps consider documenting it on Wikipedia instead (and/or using Wikipedia as a reference/citation).

New pages that don’t immediately define their IndieWeb relevance may be deleted.

Multiword Page Names

When naming of multiword wiki pages, use multiple words with spaces, or dashes for multi-word terms., rather than WikiCase or camelCase.

Definitions include IndieWeb relevance

Definitions should include why something is specifically relevant to the IndieWeb.

E.g. the jargon example above could be improved with IndieWeb relevance like:

  • A jargon term is a specific unobvious word, concept, or technology (like Webmention), or re-use of a word to mean something other than its common meaning (like feed), or sometimes re-using a word as an acronym (like POSSE).

Please also avoid jargonitions, they’re much more harmful in practice than snarkinitions in terms of approachability. We’re ok with not necessarily attracting (or even perhaps detracting?) the Hackernews crowd, much more than scaring away non-developers. Humor at the expense of technology is much more acceptable than making people feel unwelcome with inaccessible text.

Document your decisions

Once you've documented yourself on your User page, and started incrementally documenting your "Itches" and "Working On", as you get work done and deploy to your personal site, document your "major decisions", on your user page or perhaps in a "Implementation Design" section on your project page.

Examples:

Documenting your major design and implementation decisions will help you better consider when to revisit them, and when to work on new personal site features and functionality instead.

Define jargon

Any time someone uses a jargon term in chat, or other indieweb related communications, go ahead and ask in the channel:

  • What is jargon term

This will prompt Loqi to either answer with the definition with the wiki, or to prompt you to define it with a link to create the page on the wiki.

You can then define it by clicking on that link, or answer answer the what is question:

  • A jargon term is a specific unobvious concept, or re-use of a word to mean something other than its common meaning.

See definition for more details on writing good definitions.

Tweetable definitions

Check the definitions on wiki pages, and edit them so they are tweetable, as there is evidence that people will tweet good definitions that are of tweetable length (including a subsequent link to the page) - that's 257 characters (space + 23 characters for the tco'd link).

Progressive disclosure of content

All pages should start with being the best source for basic knowledge on their subject.

Starting with a simple jargon-free Tweetable definition that is understandable by a broader audience, progressively document all the important research and details that are discovered or invented by the community about the subject.

And then incrementally document details only as needed for real world reasons / use-cases that provide benefits to those reading.

Nearly every page on the wiki can be improved in this regard, to provide progressive disclosure of relevant content.

E.g. getting started can (still) be continuously improved in this regard. As can web hosting.

Replacing Redirects

When editing a redirect (a page which is nothing more than a #redirect:[[]] line), if you are replacing it with actual content, first note in the #indieweb-meta discuss channel that you're going to replace it with actual content, then delete the redirect, and recreate the page with the new content.

Common Page Structure

Most pages on the wiki have evolved to have a fairly common page structure, starting with a simple definition, and then adding additional sections such as:

  • Why
  • How to
  • IndieWeb Examples
  • Brainstorming
  • See Also

For more details on these and more, see:

Special Case Pages

In addition to the common structure across many pages, there are also several clusters or instances of special case pages.

Standards Pages

The wiki has pages for standards / specifications that were developed on the indieweb wiki, and have started or been formalized at W3C, and thus their pages (and subpages) here have evolved in support of those specifications.

While these are rapidly evolving, take a look at:

There are also pages that are about the indieweb usage of standards developed elsewhere or in active collaboration across communities, e.g. the pages for various microformats. Though these are generally structured in the common structure noted above, they may as a set have special patterns worth noting:

(stub) - help expand this section with documentation of patterns across this type of special page.

Historical Pages

Some pages help document history, e.g.:

(stub) - help expand this section with documentation of patterns across this type of special page.

Cross-Generation Pages

As certain IndieWeb building-blocks become more widespread, folks from later generations could benefit from re-organized content. In some cases, it may be beneficial to break out "introductory" content (including high-level explanations, examples with screenshots, tools and services, ...) from "developer" content (such as protocol diagrams, code snippets, brainstorming, ...) For example:

(stub) - help expand this section with documentation of patterns across this type of special page.

General Suggestions

General suggestions for editing the wiki and adding prose.

In addition to incremental edits, consider the following:

Related Wikifying Articles

The above is very much specific to what is good wikifying for IndieWeb in particular.

Here are related articles on good writing, structure, and wikifying in general:

What not to contribute to the IndieWeb wiki

The list of things that have been added to the wiki or practices that are not particularly useful or appropriate for the IndieWeb wiki has grown enough for their own section.

Start by reading relevant to the IndieWeb wiki.

Do not copy from Wikipedia

Please do not copy text from Wikipedia, or even just restate the same thing as Wikipedia. Instead, link to the Wikipedia page, perhaps from the See Also section.

Do not copy from LLM generated text

Please do not use tools like ChatGPT to write text for the IndieWeb wiki, or otherwise copy text generated by a large language model (LLM).

Exception: if there is a good reason to do so (e.g. documenting a problem), you may quote (e.g. using <blockquote> tags) LLM output as long as it is clearly identified as such, preferably with a citation, and you have the right to quote it.

What not to add to See Also sections

Please do not add links to See Also sections of articles that are not directly IndieWeb related or from IndieWeb (personal) sites, or at least some sort of reasonably well established news source or topic-specific blog with original content, not summaries of content from other sites (link to original sources instead). Especially don't add links to sites/blogs that such summaries surrounded by ads. Such additions will likely be summarily reverted.

What not to add to headings

Avoid hyperlinks in headings

Do not put hyperlinks directly into (sub)headings, put them into the contents of that (sub)heading's section instead.

Why: linked headings by convention are typically linked to themselves as a shortcut for accessing a fragment permalink to that section, so when they link elsewhere (especially to another site) it’s a confusing user experience.

Avoid punctuation in headings

Avoid putting punctuation in headings, because they create ugly fragments for linking.

Instead remove such punctuation such as dashes, commas, or question marks (e.g. in FAQ subheadings), when putting something in a heading, and then put the longer version of such text including punctuation in the content immediately following the heading

FAQ

Should this be on the wiki

Do I have to use the wiki and MediaWiki syntax

While it's nice to put content into the wiki using standard markup for it, we realize not everyone is a wiki fan, knows how to do it, or even may have the time to learn to do it. (Documenting what you've done is both important and work enough.)

  • Alternative: Post on your own site with CC0! An alternate option is to practice the IndieWeb principle of posting on your own site first where you have ultimate control. Then webmention "Indieweb" (for Superfeedr) or dump the link into chat. As long as you license your content as CC0 for that post, someone will surely add it to the wiki on your behalf.
  • Add content, with double linebreaks for paragraphs! Users shouldn't feel guilty for adding content as best as they can (markup/formatting or not) where they feel it's appropriate. Others will come along and clean bits up in the near future. Nor should they hesitate to ask for help in chat if they'd like to learn more about wikifying.

Related chats:

Where should I add something to the wiki

When you see an IndieWeb related article, post, concept, and want to add it to the wiki, it may not be obvious where to add it, even just as a "See Also". Here are some tips for where to add something:

  1. An existing page it is most relevant to.
  2. If there are a couple of pages (e.g. maybe a general concept like privacy, and a specific silo like Facebook), it’s ok to add it to both.
  3. If you can think of a few different related pages, then create a new stub page for it, and then add a link to that stub page in the See Also sections of those related pages


See Also

  • start a page
  • expand a page
  • creator
  • commons
  • Template:sparkline#How_to_make_a_small_h-card_template
  • to-do
  • Possible thoughts for expanding this article in case of controversial edits or distribution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Recession#ATTENTION_NEW_VISITORS_TO_THIS_PAGE
  • Tip for use of < < — When you’ve found a tweet that you think would help add new relevant information to a page, if the tweet is primarily (or offhand) commentary about some other linked or screenshot resource, add that link instead, or go look for the original content in the screenshot and add that instead of the tweet.
  • ^ the [schmarty] rule
  • Help incorporate See Also additions into the core content & structure of a page. Go through See Also section list items that appear to have been added from chat via Loqi’s < < command, and figure out where they should go in the actual core content of the page. If you can't find an appropriate place, then expand a page with necessary sections accordingly.
  • General tip for incremental collaborative editing: when editing the wiki (or even one page), leave it in a similar (or better) "anyone else can still jump in and edit" state that you found it, rather than more of an "incomplete and no idea how to contribute" state, to keep the barrier low(er) for others to jump in and iterate on your edits, further incrementally improving the wiki (or that one page)
  • for pages about a technology, there should be near or at the top: a user-centric user flow/story diagram, and a very simple minimal code example, highlighting the specific tech in the context of its use (eg an mf2 class name highlighted inside an HTML element or two)
  • to-do actively discourage use of phrases like "simple to implement" that trivialize what is almost certainly not is trivial, thus only has the effect of making people feel bad when their implementation attempt or experience is not "simple".
  • to-do: actively discourage use of empty trivializing adverbs like "simply", "basically", "just", and please help copy edit pages that use those terms to trivialize suggested actions.
  • Please sign-in with your personal site, not your startup company's site, or your personal business site regardless of what the business is. User pages created for organizations, startups, or other businesses are likely to be deleted.
  • FAQ: Why is the page broken or empty after an HTML comment? A: look for an em-dash (—) as part of the HTML comment closer that may have been errantly added in a recent change, maybe by someone using the MediaWiki Visual Editor, and fix it by making sure all HTML comment tags use dash-dash (--) not any special dash (en-dash '–' or em-dash '—').
  • When in doubt whether to create a new page or not for something, start with documenting that something in a section on an existing page, until that section grows "enough" to seemingly be worth a separate page, and then create that separate page, move the content there, and leave behind a 2-3 sentence summary and a "main" template pointing to the new page.
  • per prior to-do re: "simply" "just" "basically" https://tantek.com/2021/087/t3/basically-just-simply-obscure
    • "Are there other words like:
      "basically"
      "just"
      "simply"
      used in explanations/instructions to obscure actual complexity or difficulty?

      Is there a name for such words?

      They often shame the reader as a side-effect (if it’s not easy, it must be my fault)" @Tantek Çelik March 28, 2021
  • ^ also: https://tantek.com/2021/087/t5/downplayer-word-make-something-less-significant
    • "Good additions @yoz.

      Starting from “trivializer” (see @toddbarnard thread), I found “downplayer”, and this fitting definition:

      “Downplayer: A word used to make someone or something look less significant.”
      — from https://www.deanza.edu/faculty/ramireztono/phil04/weekfiveoverhead.pdf

      Your examples “common X” and “standard Y” could be considered downplayer adjectives, except perhaps when in proper nouns like Common Lisp, Standard Oil, or if an actual standard (like HTML) is cited." @Tantek Çelik March 28, 2021
  • ^ another article/site on this topic: If someone’s having to read your docs, it’s not “simple”

    Scan your technical writing for words such as easy, painless, straightforward, trivial, simple and just. Chances are your writing will be clearer as a result of removing them.

  • Avoid citing sources that Wikipedia deems "unreliable" or worse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Generally_unreliable
  • Document how to embed iframes of video from Internet Archive or Youtube using the "raw" tag with examples, e.g. like the embedding of the video on this page: [https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=2019/state-of-the-indieweb&action=edit View source for 2019/state-of-the-indieweb PageDiscussion English ReadView sourceView history Tools Tools move to sidebar hide Actions ReadView sourceView history General What links hereRelated changesSpecial pagesPage information ← 2019/state-of-the-indieweb

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Users. You can view and copy the source of this page. = State of the IndieWeb = 2019 State of the IndieWeb was a keynote by Tantek Çelik IndieWeb Summit 2019. * Watch: ▶️07:53s == Photos == == Transcript == I want to talk a little about the accomplishments in the last year, some of the progress we've made, some of the challenges and cutting edge things that are coming to the forefront that maybe we can discuss in the next two days. So, we got some amazing press this past year. IndieWeb has hit the mainstream. The New Yorker published an article literally titled "Can Indie Social Media Save Us?" Immediately referenced the IndieWeb. The term, IndieWeb, camel caps and all, mainstream media. They've spelled it right. They kept it as one word. Amazing. If you haven't seen the article, I highly recommend reading it. It's not entirely technically accurate, but that's okay, cause the overall story they're telling is the right story and they're getting more and more people interested. We sold out IndieWeb Summit, which I don't think we've ever done before. [Applause]. And, what's our current count? On the signup sheet? Last time I checked, it was 47 of you were here. >> Sounds right. >> [Away from mic] >> So, that's been awesome. We have more -- >> 46. >> Did we count a blank line or something? That's allowed. We have many more Homebrew Website Clubs that are regularly meeting. And a whole bunch getting started. Just this past week -- Barnsley. I don't even know where that is, sorry, American... geography... I think it's in England, I believe. Announced they're starting their Homebrew Website Club on the 18th of July, so that's pretty cool. We have more and more IndieWebCamps. We've scheduled lots of IndieWebCamps this year and are on track to schedule a record number of different cities as well. So, that's pretty cool. Aside from the community participation, Ryan Barrett, who runs Bridgy -- which I'm sure a lot of you are using -- how many of you are using Bridgy? Yeah a lot. Shared some stats for us on the continued essentially what you can see here is linear, organic growth of the IndieWeb. This is one of the things we're really proud of. We are not looking for a hockey stick, unicorn, VC-driven, rise and explode into splinters-type movement. We're trying to grow sustainably, which is a common theme in many areas, like the environment. I'm really proud that this has happened. There's been a couple of drop-offs in users by feature, et cetera. And those are for -- can anyone guess what happened in August? >> Facebook killed its API! >> Thanks, Lily. >> Facebook killed its API. That dropped off with a lot of backfeed. And I personally stopped posting to Facebook then. The second dropoff happened when Google killed G+. There were apparently quite a few people using G+. But as you can see the stats overall kept rising. Number of users, Webmention sent. This is the one I'm particularly proud of, the number of Webmentions sent continues to grow and the number of unique domains. That's the best indicator we have for how many people are using Bridgy as a representation as a subset of the whole IndieWeb. We know it's maybe -- I don't know, somewhere between 1-10% we don't have accurate stats, it'd be great if we did. Relative growth is always a good thing to see like that. All right. So, those are our awesome things that have happened. The things that we're making progress on. Travel assistance. Last year, we were late to do this. We were able to offer one, and we weren't able to arrange logistics in time. This year, we did it more in advance, we were able to offer a number of scholarships and have three individuals able to accept, plan and show up today so we think that's a huge increase. [Applause and cheers]. And, we can do better. So, we -- the organizers have pledged to do better next year for organizing travel assistance, far more in advance. We're looking into seeing if there's a way to provide travel assistance to other IndieWebCamps. Because, hey, maybe it's better environmentally to fly people or train people closer to where they live rather than try to fly everyone across the entire world to one location. So we're going to be investigating that. That's something we made progress on. Could make better progress on. We've got some challenges that we've incurred that we still keep running into. The biggest one we've noticed this year is WordPress and WordPress.com. There are a number of folks who tried to post RSVPs and things didn't work right. Because of maybe their theme, or because WordPress.com updated. It continues to be a source of challenges and I just think we should admit that and find bold solutions to figuring out how we can get that 30% of the web to actually engage with us. We've got a lot of solutions there, we can do better. All right. And that leads me to the last piece, which is technical areas of exploration. I picked out three areas which I heard lots of discussion about. These are areas we don't have clear interoperability on the IndieWeb yet but we could, maybe even startin this weekend. This is the kind of thing that's happened every year. People have come up with an area they're interested in and made something work that didn't work before. The first is private posts or groups. This is one of the top reasons I still hear from people for using Facebook. It offers a convenient UI for sharing things privately, with individuals or small groups of people. It's something that I think we can do on our own sites. It's something that still needs figuring out, the UX and protocols. But I think we can solve it like we've solved our previous use cases. The second is payments. You know, if we want to make progress in payments, we want to figure out a way for people to actually transact, peer to peer and not depend on a new centralized currency driven by a large social media company and a bunch of blockchain companies and credit card companies. Maybe that's not the best thing for the planet and for independence and liberty and all the things we talk about. So how to handle payments and offering services on the IndieWeb, or getting paid for stuff like articles or podcasts, I think that's an area worth exploring. And the last one is discovery. This is always been a bit of a challenge and now that we have IndieWeb readers, social readers, I feel like the next step is to find a way for folks to discover each other, people they might want to follow, find each other in the community and connect that are a bit ad hoc right now. There's a lot of potential for progress here. That's it for the State of the IndieWeb 2019. == Outline == * Welcome * Accomplishments * Challenges - community, development * Community changes * Emerging areas of exploration == Notes == Gathering some bits to consider including * celebrate some accomplishments: ** New Yorker article ** Homebrew Website Club cities (total growth & new cities, change from last year) ** IndieWebCamps cities (total growth & new cities, change from last year) ** new IWC/HWC cities, number of total active cities * stats updates ** Bridgy update: https://snarfed.org/2019-01-02_bridgy-stats-update-4#comment-2731107 * progress ** D&I travel assistance (last year late to open applications, this year 3 participants sponsored, ) * acknowledge challenges ** WordPress and WordPress.com users (cost to use plugins, theme challenges and barriers) * technical areas of exploration ** private posts / groups ** payments ** discovery what are people looking forward to at summit? * emerging ** as a user *** mobile user flow *** how to post on one's website in a more efficient, committed way, *** get over inertia of not fully expressing voice on the web - some similar thoughts: https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2019/06/three-conversations-about-blogging/ *** Some hate twitter, some just don't tweet any more, but it's easy to tweet, just type a bunch of text and hit button on my mobile phone, and need to figure out a way to do that in an indieweb way. ** technical developments *** private posts *** payments (to not depend on silos for income) *** discovery (to not depend on silos for reach) ** more: https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2019-06-10#t1560206722521200 * existing yet growing concerns ** fixing WordpPress *** theme breakages (e.g. RSVP challenges) *** logging into an WP console and typing a bunch of stuff, and checking a bunch of boxes is just enough friction to keep many from doing it as often as they'd like, as often as they may have tweeted before twitter turned into a cesspool. More thoughts to consider incorporating: * succeeded at first step: quietly successful & empowering & getting stuff done * may not be perfect or optimal but we're making it work * pioneers out in the woods: thriving, happy * we're getting out of it the things we want out of it. (are we?) * could live like that a long time * should we eventually get to be in revolutionary mode * a lot of people try to change the world, and they don't get the first step. * indieweb has gotten a great first step which is noteworthy and extraordinary, that's good, but what's the next step in the journey, and how do we invest more in whatever it is going to take to get that next step happening. * It's possible, but not necessarily easy, not pretty, but it works == See Also == * statistics * 2019/Schedule Templates used on this page: Template:play (view source) Template:sparkline (view source) Template:t (view source) Template:videoduration (view source) Return to 2019/state-of-the-indieweb. 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